A girl that I thought was a woman turns out to be transgendered...

keepingitbig

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I didn't read her profile and thought he was a she. But we talked on the phone. What do I do about this? I didn't want to say anything bad and I'm not gay. Should I block the phone number, or what? Confused.
 
Block the number! This reminds me of the movie Trainspotting:)
 
Does she still have 'er twig & berries?
If not, why the concern?
If so, and it freaks you, just tell 'im: "No thanks, not my side of the street."
Honesty is quite often refreshing, and appreciated.
 
MAXAMEYES;444232 said:
Does she still have 'er twig & berries?
If not, why the concern?
If so, and it freaks you, just tell 'im: "No thanks, not my side of the street."
Honesty is quite often refreshing, and appreciated.

Let's just say he or she still has the equipment. Argh. No biggie. Had other females who wanted to go out with me. But damn, you don't get that alot.
 
keepingitbig;444239 said:
Let's just say he or she still has the equipment. Argh. No biggie. Had other females who wanted to go out with me. But damn, you don't get that alot.

So just suck her cock really good for her:)
 
keepingitbig;444250 said:
I'm not against gays, because they have their rights as well. But I'm not doing that. Sorry, bro'. :(

This Shit is Mad Funny:)

Yo,Keep

Just be real and say hey i am not down with that.

Peace,
Super
 
what if you had not known it and she comes takes of her clothes and BAM

she has a bigger one than you? Maybe i dont know..

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Swordfight !
Swordfight!

keepingitbig;444239 said:
Let's just say he or she still has the equipment. Argh. No biggie. Had other females who wanted to go out with me. But damn, you don't get that alot.
 
Ha ha ha ha damn dats some shit... but shit if she was post op it a b b no different from findin out yo girl ws really yo cousin... especially if u already done fucked might as well keep doin it...
 
I can't believe you motherfuckers- Shes a tranny not a he ! Just tell her you're not into transexuals, hopefully she doesn't go through some hard times form an unbreakable bond of a crush on you, give up on everything she could do to survive just to hope to be with you, discover life without love is not a real life at all, and then make her cry for the rest of her life because you couldn't just treat her like a real person and tell her trannies isn't on your agenda- but tell her I don't like girls and then have a sex party without her or block her number...!!!

From my experience straight guys(not gay guys) always get crushes on me after they have told me they are not into t-girls, not long after when we get in private they tell me the opposite, I can't count the times with both of my hands. it sucks

Probably makes a difference in person.
 
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Hate to sound like the stickler for details that I am...but...
If he still has a penis and testicles then he is still a he no matter how good he looks as a gal. Or what he chooses to call himself.
Post-op, completely different story.
Personally, if the only way I'd ever found out a gal was once a guy was through genetic tests then, to me, it wouldn't matter a damn bit.

But if you can piss yer name in the snow; yer a guy.

I mean, I could put on a tutu and call myself a ballerina... but it'd never be so.

Mostly the back hair would gimme away.
 
MAXAMEYES;444476 said:
Hate to sound like the stickler for details that I am...but...
If he still has a penis and testicles then he is still a he no matter how good he looks as a gal. Or what he chooses to call himself.
Post-op, completely different story.
Personally, if the only way I'd ever found out a gal was once a guy was through genetic tests then, to me, it wouldn't matter a damn bit.

But if you can piss yer name in the snow; yer a guy.

I mean, I could put on a tutu and call myself a ballerina... but it'd never be so.

Mostly the back hair would gimme away.


I really wanted to let this go, but this is the kinda of stupid shit I have to put up with its so fucking ignorant.

http://www.pichunter.com/models/ana_tranny

you do not call a bitch like this a "he" ok numb-nuts. and fyi this bitch is a ho and i coulda done been had it like that since January '11 n I took a different route and get to be millions of $ rich so peace out.
 
If pre op TS are not your "cup of tea" then say so, tell the girl - all you have done is talk on the phone - nothing else - relax and be honest and polite -no big deal. But do yourself a favour, try reading the fucking profile in future!
 
Turnover this isn't anything personal at you my friend and I understand why your emotional about it but you have to also understand that most men do not grasp the intimate workings of people that are trans-gender or dress up as the opposite sex and tend to poke fun. We dont know how to deal with it as its not the usual thing, you even have to admit this and by that I mean picking up what I think is a girl born at birth so to speak and take her home for sex, taker her knickers down and see she has a penis and balls between her legs, now seriously you cannot expect 9/10 men to calmly say 'okay hunni no problems I'll walk you to the bus stop' we are shocked, surprised by this and although I dont agree with violence, when transgenders do this they must know its putting them in harms way! A guy faced with that will be defensive no matter how diplomatic you assume.

Again this is no attack on you. If anything we are afraid and ignorant of this potential scenario so you being here can help shine wisdom on best dealing with this.
 
Sorry, if he still produces sperm, he's still a man. That's just biology.
That's the very definition of male.

We can take on whatever outward appearance we choose and assume whatever label we choose, but facts are still facts.
 
Ya Im glad you say it like that bc that is SO SO SO ignorant. First I wanna say the way it feels when you guys talk about transpeople this way would be like if all of you were white and I was black. Do you know not long ago they use to say black People werent Penis EnlargementOPLE? Its the same mentality of people who where absolutely sure the world was flat and the sun revolved around the earth! Its the same mentality as people who swear youre going to burn in hell if you do not accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior.

One well known FACT of being trans is you NEVER get in a car or go home with a guy without telling them what you are. That should be in your first few minutes of convo Especially if sex is going to be expected. 2nd of all, there is no ratio of 9/10 that a guy will say oops were sorry we didnt know you were like me down there.

The circumstances are always variable, I have known more men than not and this is my honest experience to say, oh shit your a guy....o well, whats up have a boyfriend.? Its just all of your insecurity and a mans lack of sexual confidence that not only makes him fear it but it also denies him the satisfaction of exploring something pleaurable and completely normal.

You say its not the "usual" but someone like me who is trans nothing is further from the truth. Its you men who are unusual with me....not the other way around. And if you're dumb enough to believe a trans WOMAN is not a she or a trans MAN is not a he then you are absolutely close minded and do not even know what it means to be human. A trans person is TRANS. Like a Zebra is not a horse and and a house cat is not a Lion. Were just like anybody else and its everybody ELSE who makes us not like that.
 
well to say how to define some women,shemales is tough, i mean some women who have vaginas look manly and have more muscle, some shemales look more female than other girls but have dicks...

You do not want to go home and find her give you...

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Alex78;444549 said:
well to say how to define some women,shemales is tough, i mean some women who have vaginas look manly and have more muscle, some shemales look more female than other girls but have dicks...

You do not want to go home and find her give you...

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I actually talked to this person today and told her. I'm not immature, or will call her/him a freak. just told the person what I'm about and that wouldn't sit well with me and that I like a pure female. He/she got angry and I went off. Hope that settles it. Got a female I'm talking to right now that I want to take out for coffee.
 
Turnover;444525 said:
Ya Im glad you say it like that bc that is SO SO SO ignorant. First I wanna say the way it feels when you guys talk about transpeople this way would be like if all of you were white and I was black. Do you know not long ago they use to say black People werent Penis EnlargementOPLE? Its the same mentality of people who where absolutely sure the world was flat and the sun revolved around the earth! Its the same mentality as people who swear youre going to burn in hell if you do not accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior.

One well known FACT of being trans is you NEVER get in a car or go home with a guy without telling them what you are. That should be in your first few minutes of convo Especially if sex is going to be expected. 2nd of all, there is no ratio of 9/10 that a guy will say oops were sorry we didnt know you were like me down there.

The circumstances are always variable, I have known more men than not and this is my honest experience to say, oh shit your a guy....o well, whats up have a boyfriend.? Its just all of your insecurity and a mans lack of sexual confidence that not only makes him fear it but it also denies him the satisfaction of exploring something pleaurable and completely normal.

You say its not the "usual" but someone like me who is trans nothing is further from the truth. Its you men who are unusual with me....not the other way around. And if you're dumb enough to believe a trans WOMAN is not a she or a trans MAN is not a he then you are absolutely close minded and do not even know what it means to be human. A trans person is TRANS. Like a Zebra is not a horse and and a house cat is not a Lion. Were just like anybody else and its everybody ELSE who makes us not like that.

There are some guys who are attracted to them and some who are not. I'm not going to not tell the truth about it. Are trans monsters? Hell no! That'd be immature and stupid to think of that way. To call them freaks is out of the question. Some men are attracted to trans and some are attracted to women, some even men.
 
actually i think you can be a nasty or mean person to somebody who puts up their image as rogue!

Look at women! one tiny mistake when you talk to her and its all over!

She does not like your view on politics,religion or food and she can spill vine on you call you a cunt and we are supposed to just stand there and look all retarded..

Women tease and make fun of guys size and cause them to go and do [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] stuff, spend years to get bigger and when we do they find another thing to poke at...

You do not say fuck off because she is a tranny but because she did not tell you in advance...
 
Alex78;444562 said:
actually i think you can be a nasty or mean person to somebody who puts up their image as rogue!

Look at women! one tiny mistake when you talk to her and its all over!

She does not like your view on politics,religion or food and she can spill vine on you call you a cunt and we are supposed to just stand there and look all retarded..

Women tease and make fun of guys size and cause them to go and do [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] stuff, spend years to get bigger and when we do they find another thing to poke at...

You do not say fuck off because she is a tranny but because she did not tell you in advance...

So, was it wrong for me to do that? I don't reject people.
 
keepingitbig;444552 said:
I actually talked to this person today and told her. I'm not immature, or will call her/him a freak. just told the person what I'm about and that wouldn't sit well with me and that I like a pure female. He/she got angry and I went off. Hope that settles it. Got a female I'm talking to right now that I want to take out for coffee.

Sounds like you handled it very maturely.... and the fact that he got angry speaks a lot about him. This is like when a girl discloses she has herpes and you lose interest and she gets mad.... you have a right to know what you're sleeping with. People have an obligation to disclose. And in the former case (trans) I agree-they should disclose up front -as soon as the first date is organized (and prior to it happening). This is basic ethics. HE is an asshole for waiting to disclose and more an asshole to get mad because you choose girls over men....
 
I've been rejected many of times by women, but it made me much more stronger to actually do better in life. It's so far that I've been rejected by women, because of my race ( not using race though, just saying most women will not go out with certain guys of another race ), so I know how it feels.
 
I have yet to meet a tranny who is not a crazy mother fucker and I have known whole communities of ts's. That don't mean we can't live fulfilling lives we are just like anybody else.

As for the disrespectfulness of calling her a he and gay and a fuck-around douche bag(john wane), not only does it truly show the character of yourself and the projection of your own image but you are clearly incapable of accepting something that is ultimately discrimination and down right sexist.

Now before you get all bitter and defensive. I just want you to know that you can say all day long, as much as you want, until you are blue in the face that a man is a man and a woman is a woman and what I already said is you are thoroughly wrong. Not only are your words hurtful like I said when people use to say Black people were not actually Penis EnlargementOPLE and it was a known FACT, feels the same as you calling a person who is transgendered a fag to me because I am nothing like a gay man. You don't know me, none of you are like me, and your narrow minded view is offensive and wrong.

I feel like that is your intent (crazydoc) so I don't need to go on and on anymore about it. But I will tell you this, just because you say it, doesn't make it even slightly true. And calling a tranny out as a gay man shows your lack of knowledge on the subject so having your opinion where you have no experience is like trying to fill a bucket with holes in it up with water. I have told you this before and I hope this is the last time I have to say it, if you want to try me.....go ahead.....I have had to take care of guys like you before. I am in a really really low mood these days and if you want to take a couple shots you could really help me get some of this aggression out although nothing could take away this hole in my chest killing me. So I'd rather not.....but push your luck and I'll show you whos crazy.
 
First, the John Wayne thing was a joke, if you've seen Repo Man, you should get it.

2nd, as a friend, they'd be a "she".... but sorry Turnover, as a person who TRICKED me, no, that's just a guy trying to take advantage. Perhaps you're the one not being objective on this situation.
 
keepingitbig;444568 said:
I've been rejected many of times by women, but it made me much more stronger to actually do better in life. It's so far that I've been rejected by women, because of my race ( not using race though, just saying most women will not go out with certain guys of another race ), so I know how it feels.

It aint wrong to reject a woman. Tell her straight up ez, "I am not interested" if she says "but I love you" say "sorry not interested" if she keeps saying "but I love you" just tell her "I'm not interested". Trust me if I heard that the first time I would have said "cool" and went on to live my life. But don't call her and talk about your cock, and say how much you like her personality or how much you hate being alone and then expect her to not to tell you "but I love you". If you didn't laugh at her and you respected her she just got mad, we all get mad. She prolly got mad cos she thinks she IS a woman, all trannies think that. I know a 6 year old transexual who had the surgery who was my neighbor because she kept trying to kill herself because she felt like something was wrong.

I feel like that. I can't even touch my dick I am so sad right now. Most trannies would never want Penis Enlargement because they see their penis as a deformity. I never use to but I have my moments. I know that once a trans has the surgery they are no longer trans call it what you like. She has a pussy and she should have everything else done and I'm not going to try and explain how much it is the same as a womans because nobody on this website is going to consider it.

Another thing is a transexual is only called a "shemale" when she is a sex worker. That is adult entertainment or street walking. It is a slang term like what you call a G.G. or Gender Female(girl) as a Harlot.

I'm not so offended about the thread. I am not offended at all by you KEEP. I think you're contribution to Penis Enlargement is astounding and wonderful. I love Penis Enlargement, I love myself, and I love my body. I have a hard to believing when someone who has never known a ts or even learned about them could dislike them. I hate saying this over and over but it sucks so much to be a person that so many people talk so much shit about and then when all is said in done the way I SEE IT I rarely meet a straight man who does not find me attractive because I just got it like that. All day people act like they care about something they really do not care anything about and I have to hear how much a guy thinks its gay when the only kind of men that EVER EVER EVER EVER hit on me on straight, pussy lovin, beer drinkin, rowdy, tough men. THAT IS THE TRUTH. God as my witness. I love it. sorry. It is also kind of a thing in the gay community how gay people and trans people dont even get along! They dont understand us and we are tired of being thrown into a group like them. There are plenty of fruity gay bois who like to "pose" as girls and we call them queens. But I dont have a lisp, I dont have ultra feminine mannerisms(and theres a difference), I dont like LADY GAGA, I don't wear masculine clothes or cry at the end of Titanic.

What I mean by that is a gay man IS A man. And your homegirl down the street Skylar, she fuckin down to the ground and knows how to be the life of the party. You never know when a tranny might be the one who is there for you when everyone else is gone- ya'll need to quit hatin.
 
Nobodys hating, youre just confused. I hate ANYONE that tries to trick others into doing something for free (that is, in this case the tranny is getting what they want under false pretenses, that's STEALING) no different than refusing to pay a guy for a job.

YOU need to open your eyes and quit looking for a battle.

And I dig gaga.
 
I think we can all learn from Turnover on this issue and his posts on this subject has open my mind more on the issue. Keepingitbig, sounded like you handled it alight in the end. For me Penis EnlargementRSONALLY, I'm not into dating or having any sexual liaison with a trans gender person. Sure I may be attracted to one, not knowing they are TG but that doesn't make me ignorant or an ass! That is my choice and I would never be rude or nasty to that person. I would HOPenis Enlargement if I did get in the car with a trans gender that they would be honest upfront about it and so when I got back to my place I wasn't in for a shock because it would not go anywhere, not interested in it. I would ask politely the person leave end off. I think everyone has a right to express themselves and transgender people, transexuals should be able to do this which they do quite openly in the UK as we have areas in many large cities for them to use.

I think that expecting a guy to accept this once he gets home, not knowing the full story and then thinking he has to lay the carpet down and be boyfriends is very selfish. This is then exploiting the rights of the man, that hopefully would have been polite about it but shouldn't have to be expected because of society labels to have a relashionship with someone they had no interest in. I'm only interested in dating and having sex with women who were born as a female, this is NOT being discriminatory to others as I accept them and do not call them but when it comes to someone's personal life and choices it is that .... personal choice.
 
REDZULU2003;444579 said:
I think we can all learn from Turnover on this issue and his posts on this subject has open my mind more on the issue. Keepingitbig, sounded like you handled it alight in the end. For me Penis EnlargementRSONALLY, I'm not into dating or having any sexual liaison with a trans gender person. Sure I may be attracted to one, not knowing they are TG but that doesn't make me ignorant or an ass! That is my choice and I would never be rude or nasty to that person. I would HOPenis Enlargement if I did get in the car with a trans gender that they would be honest upfront about it and so when I got back to my place I wasn't in for a shock because it would not go anywhere, not interested in it. I would ask politely the person leave end off. I think everyone has a right to express themselves and transgender people, transexuals should be able to do this which they do quite openly in the UK as we have areas in many large cities for them to use.

I think that expecting a guy to accept this once he gets home, not knowing the full story and then thinking he has to lay the carpet down and be boyfriends is very selfish. This is then exploiting the rights of the man, that hopefully would have been polite about it but shouldn't have to be expected because of society labels to have a relashionship with someone they had no interest in. I'm only interested in dating and having sex with women who were born as a female, this is NOT being discriminatory to others as I accept them and do not call them but when it comes to someone's personal life and choices it is that .... personal choice.

Exactly-and if he acts like that, he's a selfish guy not considering anyone's feelings. If she behaves herself with proper ethics, I WOULD say "she". I've had TV friends before, not really a big deal-frankly usually pretty easy to spot. I will admit I saw a TS on Jerry Springer once that made me realize one COULD be fooled, even the voice was very feminine/real... and I was indeed attracted on a purely physical level.

The issue here is ETHICS, that is, what zulu said: DISCLOSURE. No different than anything else. I know all about disclosure, I sell real estate. We don't wait until a few days before closing to tell them the house was on fire and has walls full of mold from the firehose-no we tell them UP FRONT when they walk in the house.

As I said, to me the appropriate time would be once an actual date was set or plans to "go back to her place" etc. At that point she should tell you, and if she doesn't, she's just a selfish HE.

Clear yet????
 
all that hapen was a phone conversation.

So let me ask you. why do u call a ts girl a he? seriously is that ingrained in your knowledge...a transexual is a he? bc i keep tellin u its not and that its even offensive. so y?

furthermore what is the huge problem with calling them a she? thats what i want to know. do you lose any sleep over it or something. bc honestly every time i read it it hurts.

i will never win here
 
Crazy Doc;444584 said:
Exactly-and if he acts like that, he's a selfish guy not considering anyone's feelings. If she behaves herself with proper ethics, I WOULD say "she". I've had TV friends before, not really a big deal-frankly usually pretty easy to spot. I will admit I saw a TS on Jerry Springer once that made me realize one COULD be fooled, even the voice was very feminine/real... and I was indeed attracted on a purely physical level.

The issue here is ETHICS, that is, what zulu said: DISCLOSURE. No different than anything else. I know all about disclosure, I sell real estate. We don't wait until a few days before closing to tell them the house was on fire and has walls full of mold from the firehose-no we tell them UP FRONT when they walk in the house.

As I said, to me the appropriate time would be once an actual date was set or plans to "go back to her place" etc. At that point she should tell you, and if she doesn't, she's just a selfish HE.

Clear yet????


That is just being derogatory. Oh I dont like how this black person is acting so Im going to call them a nigger. or a gay person pissed me off so they are a fag. or a woman is a bitch. or anything like it that someone who it is personal to like me is inappropriate! ARE WE CLEAR? besides RedZulu just referred to me as a "he" so should I assume he is thinking he is pissed off at me?

You think every comment is about something you say Doc and I skip over most of what you read anyway. You think its ok to degrade someone because you dislike an action they did- THAT IS IMMATURE. Its calling names simple as that. I call people jerks and motherfuckers but to point out someones difference like an overweight person and get mad and start calling them fat and shit...trying to make a pointless point to you though.

This trans woman never showed up to keeps house, never even said she wasnt a T. he read the profile wrong and caught her ON THE PHONE. so what is this all about the lies?

If a real girl says to you "Im a girl" and you say "no your a boy" damn well sure you get slapped. why do you think? its offensive. Same difference and you are just being rude sincerely. Besides Im done with it. I could care less. Why are you even fighting about it. Are you trying to understand what its like to be a tranny OR are you trying to be a know it all or smart ass
 
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Turnover;444587 said:
That is just being derogatory. Oh I dont like how this black person is acting so Im going to call them a nigger. or a gay person pissed me off so they are a fag. or a woman is a bitch. or anything like it that someone who it is personal to like me is inappropriate! ARE WE CLEAR? You think every comment is about something you say Doc and I skip over most of what you read anyway. You think its ok to degrade someone because you dislike an action they did- THAT IS IMMATURE. Its calling names simple as that. I call people jerks and motherfuckers but to point out someones difference like an overweight person and get mad and start calling them fat and shit...trying to make a pointless point to you though.

This trans woman never showed up to keeps house, never even said she wasnt a T. he read the profile wrong and caught her ON THE PHONE. so what is this all about the lies?

If a real girl says to you "Im a girl" and you say "no your a boy" damn well sure you get slapped. why do you think? its offensive. Same difference and you are just being rude sincerely. Besides Im done with it. I could care less. Why are you even fighting about it. Are you trying to understand what its like to be a tranny OR are you trying to be a know it all or smart ass

I disagree-this case is not the same and it's a poor comparison: The reason I am NOT attracted is because she WAS a he, and still is to some degree-you can't ever truly become a female, not from my point of view. Of course your wild mood swings are making me doubt that claim (that was a joke... dont get riled up :)

So when SHE reveals at an inappropriate time that she WAS a he-well that IS how I'm going to see her, why I'm going to lose attraction so it's quite appropriate in THAT situation that she becomes a HE by HER own accord-not mine. She could have been upfront and never lost her "she" status.

It's not out of anger-it's out of their choice to trick me into thinking they are female, not TS/TV-at which point I have no choice, sexually to see her as a he.

Is it possible you know more than anyone on the forum about TS, but perhaps the least about this situation as you'd NEVER be on the other side of it, would you. I've never said the word, "Nigger" in anger. Only when quoting someone else who said it derogatory or in a movie, etc... I'm all about equality, but again turnover, this person is an asshole for trying to trick guys into bed, an ASSHOLE. That doesn't make me shallow or discriminatory-it makes that person an ASSHOLE.
 
MAXAMEYES;444523 said:
Sorry, if he still produces sperm, he's still a man. That's just biology.
That's the very definition of male.

We can take on whatever outward appearance we choose and assume whatever label we choose, but facts are still facts.

Fuck it while im on the subject

the definition of Pluto was a planet. until they discovered that there were actually lots and lots of little planets just like Pluto floating around in the galaxy right around it. Instead changing the definition of Pluto they started naming these other rocks as planets until they decided that they can not name something the size of California a planet...so i forget what they call these types of planets now but it was a national crisis and its called a different definition.http://science.howstuffworks.com/pluto-planet.htm

fuck im sory about the typos and wrong typing and Im too tired to look up anymore. I had a rough week. its not over
 
Ah and youre the one being self centered-this thread is NOT about "being a tranny" it's about being TRICKED BY a TRANNY.... so YOU are the one making things about you that have nothing to do with you. And they sure as hell dont have anything to do with hating for the sake of hating, or gaybashing, or trannybashing. It's about TRICKING people.

You're blind, so it's worthless-but one last example anyway:

I meet a guy, hang out with him, become friends-then he reveals he's gay say a month into it, or perhaps 4 hours into a private conversation. No big deal-there were no sexual implications here, no reason for him EVER to reveal it to me, cuz I wasn't coming onto him thinking he was a girl, etc..... NO harm here if he tells or does not tell, and I agree I'd be a total ass to use it against him in an unrelated argument-calling him a "faggot" etc.

BUT, this is NOT the case turnover-so quit pretending it is. In our case, I meet a girl, same scenario, start flirting, and giving compliments and we might even start petting.... say for an hour or two, I'm OBVIOUSLY under a false pretense that she is female... yet she never tells. Maybe I don't want to flirt or pet with a guy who became a girl-is that my right? This person doesnt think so-or he'd tell me upfront in case I dont like the idea sexually of a TS or TV. Should I have to figure it out when I pet his cock, thinking it was a pussy? No, and now he has led me to think he is a woman-when he isnt, hes a guy who changed his sex-which is NOT the same, not to me and I doubt others would disagree. I dont want my lady to fuck me up the ass with a strap on either-doesnt mean I hate gays, it means I dont like to be fucked up the ass. And i DONT want to pet a guy, or a person who was EVER a guy-and thats my fucking choice.

He steals that choice.... and instead tricks me into thinking in a sexual way that he is a she-well, now hes brought gender into a very important realm, hes going to the show by sneaking in, not buying a ticket. So now, by HIS choice I see him as a HE, because sexually I was thinking "SHE" and he yells 'surprise' at the last minute. thats fucked up, and i have no choice but to now forever see that person as "that guy that tried to trick me into thinking he was a girl".

Had we just been friends, I'd see it as "she", just as an "unattractive she" cuz she never tricked me.... It aint clear because youre only thinking from YOUR point of view, not my problem.

We have rights too turnover-maybe youre too self absorbed to see that.
 
Turnover wrote: One well known FACT of being trans is you NEVER get in a car or go home with a guy without telling them what you are. That should be in your first few minutes of convo Especially if sex is going to be expected. 2nd of all, there is no ratio of 9/10 that a guy will say oops were sorry we didnt know you were like me down there.

So see-we AGREE, you just dont know what that would feel like on OUR side-so quit telling me im ignorant. I dont know shit about trannies as far as how they feel, etc. I DO know how this would feel as I'm like the OP-YOU DONT, so consider YOUR ignorance on that side of it, and spend a little more time listening to that side that YOU are ignorant about.

In the "what its like to be tranny" thread, I'll shut the fuck up and listen to you. This thread isnt about you, its about being tricked by a tranny who DIDNT follow your unspoken rule.
 
K I think I've been clear but now I understand some of YOUR confusion (due to my bad memory)-I read the original post yesterday and forgot he "didnt read the profile", so I assume she did follow the rule. So I take back the "he" and the "asshole"-assuming it was in the profile-she did disclose. My arguments are all valid, just misplaced, so sorry for my confusion.

But I also think this was pretty clear by my arguments and imagine you still disagree, the arguments stand. But not my accusations toward the tranny in question, the OP was just a bonehead lol.
Gotta read the profile bud.

I've had this happen a lot and now I gotta say I sympathize with the tranny-it's pretty annoying when someone starts talking to you and THEY do so under false pretenses because they are illiterate or too lazy to read-I just ran into this on craigslist. Guy is trying to hook his girl up with other girls so he can watch. Our ad said in several places "US" "MFF", etc. and it was only like 2 sentences-so what a lazy fuck,.. so she and he wasted an hour of my time just to find out he didnt read my ad.

So again-my apologies to the tranny in question, but not to the etheral trannies who "break the rule"-that argument stands firm on reason and basic ethics.
 
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