Progress thread 25 cm by the end of 2021!

The Next Big Thing said:
Thank you for advice about the stretches.
Actually, I am planning to buy some length device in few months and I am thinking what would be better: lengthmaster or extender ? With lengthmaster I could get more instensity in my sessions and then just wrap for the rest of the day. But with extender I could do my routine and then extend for several hours, which is more intense than wrap, and then after that wrap too. And to be honest, Im also thinking about buying a pump because I really need girth but I am kind of afraid that the time spent on girth could be spent on length. I dont want want the girth work to interfere with my length gains but I really do need the girth as well. What do you think about this?
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I don’t have any experience with any equipment so I’m not the best person to ask but from what I have seen I would get the LM first (as DLD advised). I personally think wrapping works pretty good for me. I don’t think I would like using an extender all that much.

Im the same as you, girth isn’t great, but I’m focused on mostly length. I do around 1 girth routine a week and then the rest is focused on length. I think you can do a little girth work along with your length routines And it shouldn’t impede your length process too much. I don’t know maybe DLD has more insight on this, my girth has increased around 3/4” throughout the shaft since I started PE and I’m still gaining length at a decent rate.
 
Level_Up said:
I don’t have any experience with any equipment so I’m not the best person to ask but from what I have seen I would get the LM first (as DLD advised). I personally think wrapping works pretty good for me. I don’t think I would like using an extender all that much.

Im the same as you, girth isn’t great, but I’m focused on mostly length. I do around 1 girth routine a week and then the rest is focused on length. I think you can do a little girth work along with your length routines And it shouldn’t impede your length process too much. I don’t know maybe DLD has more insight on this, my girth has increased around 3/4” throughout the shaft since I started PE and I’m still gaining length at a decent rate.
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So you think lenghtmaster is better than extender?
 
DLD said:
Big time! Lengthmaster is the most powerful tool available for assisting stretches and doing rolls and bundles. This is the first tool anyone should pick up if they’re going for length gains. An ADS is the next thing you should pick up after the LM to assist in healing.
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Thanks for advice DLD!
So Lenghtmaster is basically the ultimate tool for manual stretching? Does there ever come a point where it will not be enough and one needs to go to a "higher level" of intensity? Even though I have no idea what that could be, exept hanging (which I would not like to try again).

Also, I read one thread here where someone asked what is better: extender only OR extender plus manual stretching routine. A lot of people including you said that extender works much better in conjunction with manual length work. That is the reason why I thought about buying an extender, to multiply the effect of my routine with the extender and viceversa. Do you think this could work? Because an extender can put quite a lot of pressure on the penis, sometimes even more than a manual, so it is like another session in and of itself.

Lastly, couple of posts ago you recommended Hydromax as the best pump. But what about mityvac ? What is the difference? And what should I actually look for when deciding which pump to buy?
 
I love the questions they all are in line with the SRT methodology. The Lengthmaster will outlast you. Using two hands on the handlebars gives you so much intensity you need to hold back. But beyond the intensity it gives it is the only tool that you can do rolls with and I think that’s one of the most powerful stretching as possible. It also is a wonderful hanger and it is an awesome fulcrum tool.

As far as manual work goes, for me, it is totally necessary in conjunction with the various tools available. When I put a program together the heaviest stretching is done with the LM and all those stretches or manual stretches only done with the LM. After doing the intensive work Do you want to make sure that work you have done does not go to waste so we try to heal and either an a elongated or a expanded state. In this case after your LM work you would wear your ADS (check out the StealthStretcher and the SiliStretcher) and a medium tension to help you heal in an elongated state. With girth work you would wear a cock ring after to heal in expanded state.

I love the bathmate because it’s so easy for me and it’s very convenient and very easy to use. The Mityvac is more professional but not as convenient. They’re priced about the same and I would say that you would be getting more intensity from the MV then the Bathmate. In either case what’s most important is the exercise you’re doing. When using a pump do you want to go with the 5×5×3 as this is the most powerful program to game Girth.
 
Level_Up said:
What DLD said. I would much rather have a length master and continue wrapping as ADS than just have an ADS.
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When going for length the most important tool a brother should own is the Lengthmaster. The second tool should be in ADS like the StealthStretcher or SiliStretcher. These two tools work in tandem with each other to bring gaining and healing at the fastest possible speed. With the lengthmaster you are breaking down tissue and elongating in the most intense way. Then after you’re done training you get into your ADS and as the hours go by you reduce the ADS to a moderate tension and allow yourself to heal for a few hours. This is the methodology of SRT file and gaining
 
Don't you have to take wrap off every 15 minutes though? versus the sleeves can be left on all day and night Do you meen uncle Jim's wrap? Thinking of buying one not sure which is better.✌???
 
Eth_swo said:
Don't you have to take wrap off every 15 minutes though? versus the sleeves can be left on all day and night Do you meen uncle Jim's wrap? Thinking of buying one not sure which is better.✌???
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that really depends on how you wrap. You’re gonna have to figure out which wrapping style works best for you and then go with that. I wish there was one way that works for everybody but it’s not that way and that’s the main reason we have a whole forum dedicated to wrapping.
 
Level_Up said:
What DLD said. I would much rather have a length master and continue wrapping as ADS than just have an ADS.
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I agree with you. But I think that ADS is much more powerful than only wrapping because honestly the penis does not stay fully elongated in the wrap throughout the whole day and it is not under tension. But with ADS (like extender) you can hae your penis in a constant tension for 8+ hours, which I think can truly contribute to length gains.
 
19 October 2020 (Monday) - Session 11
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 2 rounds
MANDINGO STRETCH 4x45s (per hand)

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

20 October 2020 (Tuesday) - Session 12
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 2 rounds
MANDINGO STRETCH 4x50s (per hand)

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

21 October 2020 (Wednesday) - Session 13
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 2 rounds
MANDINGO STRETCH 4x50s (per hand)

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

(Thursday)
no session

23 October 2020 (Friday) - Session 14
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 2 rounds
MANDINGO STRETCH 4x50s (per hand)

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

UPDATE: In the evening right before bed I do some stretches (straight down - left, middle, right ; and also A-stretch over my wrist 10 repetitions, alternating each rep between the narrow part of my wrist and wide part of my wrist, that means each part 5 reps, each rep is 10 seconds and after each rep I stretch straight out for couple of seconds. I do this wrapped so it feels much more comfortable.
 
(Monday)
no session

27 October 2020 (Tuesday) - Session 15
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 2 rounds
MANDINGO STRETCH 4x50s (per hand)

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

28 October 2020 (Wednesday) - Session 16
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 2 rounds
MANDINGO STRETCH 4x55s (per hand)

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

29 October 2020 (Thursday) - Session 17
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 2 rounds
MANDINGO STRETCH 4x55s (per hand)

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

30 October 2020 (Friday) - Session 18
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 2 rounds
MANDINGO STRETCH 4x55s (per hand)

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

UPDATE: Also this week I have been doing the bedtime stretches and also yesterday (Thursday) I did some erect squeezes (5 reps for 30 seconds) in the afternoon. I really felt like it helped with my flaccid staying enlarged and also I think overall it helps with bloodflow and regeneration. I am considering to implement light girth work frequently for this exact reason.
 
Thanks for reply, should I hang for 1.5- 2 hours in one sitting or 30 minute sets throughout the day every so many hours apart?
 
Would it be pointless me ADS after each set as the last set of the day would be heavier and break open all micro tears accumulated thought the different hanging sets throughout the day, then I would ADS while I sleep maybe???
 
The Next Big Thing said:
I agree with you. But I think that ADS is much more powerful than only wrapping because honestly the penis does not stay fully elongated in the wrap throughout the whole day and it is not under tension. But with ADS (like extender) you can hae your penis in a constant tension for 8+ hours, which I think can truly contribute to length gains.
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There are two tools every man should have who wants to make the best length games. A Lengthmaster and an extender. There are six areas of growth that should be addressed as I have below:

6 Needed Sources of Stretching
-Tunica Stretching(stretching what is already there)

- Ligament stretching(Preparing for what is coming)

- Expressive Stretching(Grabbing new gains from freely accessible inner penis)

-Erect Stretching (to cement the temporary gains)

- SiliStretcher active and passive stretching to gain length and secure it.

- Testicle health massage and stretch
(Increasing length and heaviness to allow for a longer and thicker flaccid penis)
 
DLD said:
There are two tools every man should have who wants to make the best length games. A Lengthmaster and an extender. There are six areas of growth that should be addressed as I have below:

6 Needed Sources of Stretching
-Tunica Stretching(stretching what is already there)

- Ligament stretching(Preparing for what is coming)

- Expressive Stretching(Grabbing new gains from freely accessible inner penis)

-Erect Stretching (to cement the temporary gains)

- SiliStretcher active and passive stretching to gain length and secure it.

- Testicle health massage and stretch
(Increasing length and heaviness to allow for a longer and thicker flaccid penis)
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Thanks a lot for this! Very informative.
I have a question, how do I know if I am creating new length in the already existing tissue/elongating it to make it bigger or if I am just pulling the already existing inner penis out? I am asking because I would think that when you "add" new length to your penis it is more permanent in a way than pulling the already existing out. So what is the difference between the two in terms of exercises I should do?

Also, what do you mean by increasing heaviness by doing testicle massage? How will the penis get heavier and thicker from this exercise?
 
Regular stretching stretches the shaft and ligament expressive stretching stretches inner penis. They’re very different. Both type of stretching should be done.

What I mean is that your penis will hang heavier and longer if you do the testicle health massage and stretch.
 
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