Please advice - routine and progress

Hi,
So back at september I was doing Length master for maybe two months or so. Basically every day twice a day for 20min each. Started mainly with newbie than after 40 days mainly DBS.
Was Pumping at that period every day or two nothing special. (20-40min)

Bpfsl increased by 0.7-1cm at that time. But it doesn't neccesarly means it was new high in general (for example now with the extender i also went up by 0.7 but just reached the same bpfsl as in septemper. It was just shorted as I started this time)

Mental health is usually not great.
Suffers from Stress and Anxiety in varying levels all the time.

the reasons I stopped Length Master were:
1. I injured significant blood from urthea and it was pretty scary (and not for the first time from LengthMaster).
2. I started having many issues with comfort. Pinching / pain compresion on nerves / skin / etc. I had to deal with it too much so it started to became much os a hassle. And it was random. I could not point or narrow it down at all.
At this point I ordered compression hanger which I used for about 50 days or so (up to 5kg) but at some point I decided to stop length for a while and focus only on girth which also didn't work.
At recent months I decided to try Extender again. I'm not working at
11-13lbs, and mostly in bundled state, as this extender supports bundle. As I said my bpfsl did increase but no new high conparing to LM on Sep so far.


oldandlively said:
Okay, let's rewind back to last September to November, when you were doing well with consistency using the Length Master and pumping. Give us a full routine progress report for the weekly approach, including any short, long, and multiple-day breaks in between routines. Something don't sound right. Don't forget to toss in stress load, emotion, and psychological issues, and dietary intakes. Mental and physical health play a major part as well. In 6 to 8 months, there should be a 5% gain at minimum.
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All of those problems can be worked out using the right wrapping technique. I'm happy to hear your increases in size. That's a very good show. And eventually it will show in your erect size. Don't let the devil pull you down. You are not any of those things, stress and other issues that we suffer mentally come from the devil and the best thing you can do is turn to stress and other issues that we suffer mentall Come from the devil and the best thing you can do is turn to Jesus.
 
DLD said:
All of those problems can be worked out using the right wrapping technique. I'm happy to hear your increases in size. That's a very good show. And eventually it will show in your erect size. Don't let the devil pull you down. You are not any of those things, stress and other issues that we suffer mentally come from the devil and the best thing you can do is turn to stress and other issues that we suffer mentall Come from the devil and the best thing you can do is turn to Jesus.
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Thank you for your support ❤️
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
Have you looked at this video instruction?
🔗 Short video on clamping down in the chamber of the LENGTHMASTER 3.
🔗 Clamping down to the chamber in the LENGTHMASTER 3, top view.

You need to hold on your glans thorough your attachment procedure. Also it's important to be 100% flaccid. If you get an erection, you need to re-wrap.

Also it is normal that your skin gets pressed together and gets pushed outward. This was the case for me as well.
You should not add to much padding inside the chamber. Look at the pictures I linked to you before. The PENIS WRAPPING TAPE, should just be enough that you cover the sharp corners.

Do this as well!
🔗 Slippage solutions (LM3).
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@squirt_inducer_man @DLD

Wished this worked, cant get those links to open without the "whoops this thread can't be found option". Any way to upload on youtube unlisted the routines wrapping etc... thanks.
 
trustr1 said:
Hi,
So back at september I was doing Length master for maybe two months or so. Basically every day twice a day for 20min each. Started mainly with newbie than after 40 days mainly DBS.
Was Pumping at that period every day or two nothing special. (20-40min)

Bpfsl increased by 0.7-1cm at that time. But it doesn't neccesarly means it was new high in general (for example now with the extender i also went up by 0.7 but just reached the same bpfsl as in septemper. It was just shorted as I started this time)

Mental health is usually not great.
Suffers from Stress and Anxiety in varying levels all the time.
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This is where things can get rough for all of our PE brothers. Cortisol levels from stress can destroy the entire body, inside out.

trustr1 said:
the reasons I stopped Length Master were:
1. I injured significant blood from urthea and it was pretty scary (and not for the first time from LengthMaster).
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We discussed this in the past as well. It was due to bad wrapping and too strong of a strapping, and then poor execution on the pulling. A combination of these causes the capillaries and the inner urethra wall to break. Nothing permanent or harmful. Just like when you scraped your skin falling. Something to think about getting back onto, but with much lighter pulls and proper wrapping methods. Take a bit of time to find the right wrapping techniques for comfort.

trustr1 said:
2. I started having many issues with comfort. Pinching / pain compresion on nerves / skin / etc. I had to deal with it too much so it started to became much os a hassle. And it was random. I could not point or narrow it down at all.
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And this was from the Length Master?

trustr1 said:
At this point I ordered compression hanger which I used for about 50 days or so (up to 5kg) but at some point I decided to stop length for a while and focus only on girth which also didn't work.
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5kg for how long in a given day in those 50 days? Did you ease up on the traction load after the initial hour? Give us more info on the pumping too. How long ago, and for how long did you do it? It appeared there were break gaps that didn't conform to the tissues' developmental stages.

trustr1 said:
At recent months I decided to try Extender again. I'm not working at
11-13lbs, and mostly in bundled state, as this extender supports bundle. As I said my bpfsl did increase but no new high conparing to LM on Sep so far.
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For the extender, that's way too high of a static load. Tell us more about the traction load you're using. How long for the 11-13lbs throughout the day? Did you reduce the total weight load for longer hour wearing? How long is the extender worn within a 24-hour period?

As we have revealed the reason why extender vs LM many times, the extender is static, whereas LM is dynamic. Penis tissues grow based on dynamic influences and not static. If the LM has a mounting method like the extender, I'll invest all in. Unfortunately, the various beta designs don't allow such luxury since the amount of stress load on the pelvic region would be like something stepping hard into your crotch.
 
oldandlively said:
This is where things can get rough for all of our PE brothers. Cortisol levels from stress can destroy the entire body, inside out.
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Unfortunately I can't control it.
oldandlively said:
We discussed this in the past as well. It was due to bad wrapping and too strong of a strapping, and then poor execution on the pulling. A combination of these causes the capillaries and the inner urethra wall to break. Nothing permanent or harmful. Just like when you scraped your skin falling. Something to think about getting back onto, but with much lighter pulls and proper wrapping methods. Take a bit of time to find the right wrapping techniques for comfort.



And this was from the Length Master?
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Yes all the above was LM. It became too much of a hassle and nothing seem to work + the bleeding. That's why i was giving up in this..
oldandlively said:
5kg for how long in a given day in those 50 days? Did you ease up on the traction load after the initial hour? Give us more info on the pumping too. How long ago, and for how long did you do it? It appeared there were break gaps that didn't conform to the tissues' developmental stages.
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Only 60min a day of hanging a day. Divided to 3 20min seta. On 5kg.
Pumping at that time was like 30-50minutes a day random 27-36kpa or so.
oldandlively said:
For the extender, that's way too high of a static load. Tell us more about the traction load you're using. How long for the 11-13lbs throughout the day? Did you reduce the total weight load for longer hour wearing? How long is the extender worn within a 24-hour period?
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I wore it only once daily. For 60-90min total daily. In the 11-13lbs weight. I was taking a break every 5min. Altough i experimented also with longer sets lately.
oldandlively said:
As we have revealed the reason why extender vs LM many times, the extender is static, whereas LM is dynamic. Penis tissues grow based on dynamic influences and not static. If the LM has a mounting method like the extender, I'll invest all in. Unfortunately, the various beta designs don't allow such luxury since the amount of stress load on the pelvic region would be like something stepping hard into your crotch.
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I really love the LM and do believe it has the most potential. The problem is the attachment part design is not perfect, and it cause issues a lot for me very randomally.

Thanks!
 
trustr1 said:
Unfortunately I can't control it.
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I know the feeling of being unable to control stress. Emotional, physical, and psychological, all whirling in every direction. Women don't understand that men have the same mental and emotional turmoil, with physical suffering added into the mix as men tend to be the financial providers.

If you need ears to listen and mouths to talk to, we're here for you, brother.

trustr1 said:
Yes all the above was LM. It became too much of a hassle and nothing seem to work + the bleeding. That's why i was giving up in this..
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We noticed you had quite a bit of issues with the LM in the past. Let's try to find ways to solve the issues one by one. When you have free time, work with us and we'll find ways for you to use the LM without all the issues you have. Let us know where you want to start first. The first practice is the wrapping. Let's revisit it. We can discuss it privately, or openly. Either way, we can get things rolling for you.

trustr1 said:
Only 60min a day of hanging a day. Divided to 3 20min seta. On 5kg.
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When you hang, it's perfectly fine. Hanging normally starts at 2 to 3kg to start up, to prevent the tissues from going into shock. Then you increase it between 5 and 6kg on the second set to temporarily shock the tissues. Reduce back down between 2 and 3kg for the last set to prevent the tissues from acting on cell stressor response. From there, you can slap on the extender if you like for the lower traction load around 2.5 to 3kg if you want. Low and long, not heavy traction and short period. It may work with brothers starting out, but you don't want do that too long after so many months of PE. You can switch between the 5 and 6kg one week for the second set, to between 6 and 7kg another week. Switch up and down. You can also switch the 3rd set between 2.5 and 3kg to a split of 3kg to 4kg, then back down to 2.5 and 3kg. Just don't remain static at the high weight for too long.

However, without the initial break down of the tissues to initiate remodeling, hanging alone will take as much time as the extender, which goes up between 6 and 16 hours a day.

trustr1 said:
Pumping at that time was like 30-50minutes a day random 27-36kpa or so.
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The pumping is fine. Again, make sure not to remain static at the same pressure for more than 60 seconds. Up by 4, drop by 4kpa every 60 seconds. Keep swing the pressure range constantly. Example:

Start at 19kpa to warm up for a minute or two.
Then increase slowly in 30 seconds to get up to 20kpa. Then down to 19, then up to 22. Then down to 20, then up to 23. Up and own, up and down for the first ste.

Second set, do the same thing, But the swing will be more dramatic. Up by 3, down by 2, up by 3, down by 2.

Third set, go a bit crazier. Up by 4, down by 2, up by 4, down by 2.

but do think about the 5x5x3 routine. Don't just pump using negative pressure. You have to use positive pressure as well. I know it's hard to get a full erection, or even at 70%. But that semi-erection is needed to get the blood volume into the penis to do the slow squash jelq.

trustr1 said:
I wore it only once daily. For 60-90min total daily. In the 11-13lbs weight. I was taking a break every 5min. Altough i experimented also with longer sets lately.
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For the extender, allow it to remain static for 5 minutes at 11-13lbs. But make sure to reduce it back down to 2.5lbs, or 3.5lbs. Don't hang it up there too high, for too long. Even if it's only 5 minutes at a time, try not to stay way up there for too long. That causes the tissues to go into shocks, and allow them to adapt. When they adapt, that's when you hit the plateau wall, with minimal gains.
 
oldandlively said:
I know the feeling of being unable to control stress. Emotional, physical, and psychological, all whirling in every direction. Women don't understand that men have the same mental and emotional turmoil, with physical suffering added into the mix as men tend to be the financial providers.

If you need ears to listen and mouths to talk to, we're here for you, brother.



We noticed you had quite a bit of issues with the LM in the past. Let's try to find ways to solve the issues one by one. When you have free time, work with us and we'll find ways for you to use the LM without all the issues you have. Let us know where you want to start first. The first practice is the wrapping. Let's revisit it. We can discuss it privately, or openly. Either way, we can get things rolling for you.



When you hang, it's perfectly fine. Hanging normally starts at 2 to 3kg to start up, to prevent the tissues from going into shock. Then you increase it between 5 and 6kg on the second set to temporarily shock the tissues. Reduce back down between 2 and 3kg for the last set to prevent the tissues from acting on cell stressor response. From there, you can slap on the extender if you like for the lower traction load around 2.5 to 3kg if you want. Low and long, not heavy traction and short period. It may work with brothers starting out, but you don't want do that too long after so many months of PE. You can switch between the 5 and 6kg one week for the second set, to between 6 and 7kg another week. Switch up and down. You can also switch the 3rd set between 2.5 and 3kg to a split of 3kg to 4kg, then back down to 2.5 and 3kg. Just don't remain static at the high weight for too long.

However, without the initial break down of the tissues to initiate remodeling, hanging alone will take as much time as the extender, which goes up between 6 and 16 hours a day.



The pumping is fine. Again, make sure not to remain static at the same pressure for more than 60 seconds. Up by 4, drop by 4kpa every 60 seconds. Keep swing the pressure range constantly. Example:

Start at 19kpa to warm up for a minute or two.
Then increase slowly in 30 seconds to get up to 20kpa. Then down to 19, then up to 22. Then down to 20, then up to 23. Up and own, up and down for the first ste.

Second set, do the same thing, But the swing will be more dramatic. Up by 3, down by 2, up by 3, down by 2.

Third set, go a bit crazier. Up by 4, down by 2, up by 4, down by 2.

but do think about the 5x5x3 routine. Don't just pump using negative pressure. You have to use positive pressure as well. I know it's hard to get a full erection, or even at 70%. But that semi-erection is needed to get the blood volume into the penis to do the slow squash jelq.



For the extender, allow it to remain static for 5 minutes at 11-13lbs. But make sure to reduce it back down to 2.5lbs, or 3.5lbs. Don't hang it up there too high, for too long. Even if it's only 5 minutes at a time, try not to stay way up there for too long. That causes the tissues to go into shocks, and allow them to adapt. When they adapt, that's when you hit the plateau wall, with minimal gains.
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Thank you brother.
I would love to use the LM again. However to be honest with you I afraid from repeated urethra injury.
The AI says it can be mild but can also be serious including urethral stricture complication.
If I knew how to avoid it 100% that would be great. But I don't.

About design. I would start with designing more ergonomic compression surface. I can give you product name in private which has such.
I would also consider vaccum cap attachment altough you will be limited in force there due to blisters and vaccum leaks. And I guess you would need to change the handles also since otherwise you will need longer hands to push/pull from further down.
 
trustr1 said:
Thank you brother.
I would love to use the LM again. However to be honest with you I afraid from repeated urethra injury.
The AI says it can be mild but can also be serious including urethral stricture complication.
If I knew how to avoid it 100% that would be great. But I don't.

About design. I would start with designing more ergonomic compression surface. I can give you product name in private which has such.
I would also consider vaccum cap attachment altough you will be limited in force there due to blisters and vaccum leaks. And I guess you would need to change the handles also since otherwise you will need longer hands to push/pull from further down.
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Before you are putting the length, master on try to squeeze all of the blood out of your penis before you strap in this may help you with your urethra problem
 
trustr1 said:
Thank you brother.
I would love to use the LM again. However to be honest with you I afraid from repeated urethra injury.
The AI says it can be mild but can also be serious including urethral stricture complication.
If I knew how to avoid it 100% that would be great. But I don't.

About design. I would start with designing more ergonomic compression surface. I can give you product name in private which has such.
I would also consider vaccum cap attachment altough you will be limited in force there due to blisters and vaccum leaks. And I guess you would need to change the handles also since otherwise you will need longer hands to push/pull from further down.
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How about attaching the length master at the extreme base of the penis, do a half rotation and stretch? This won't cause any bleeding.
 
huge-girth said:
How about attaching the length master at the extreme base of the penis, do a half rotation and stretch? This won't cause any bleeding.
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That is perfectly fine as well to pull the hidden segment of the penis out. But the need for the rest of the penis remains. To promote growth along the entire penis, an extender may be needed for your post LM routine. It's going to be a pain in the butt for you, but that extender will be your saving grace. If you need private advice on this, let me know. If not, we can discuss it here.
 
oldandlively said:
That is perfectly fine as well to pull the hidden segment of the penis out. But the need for the rest of the penis remains. To promote growth along the entire penis, an extender may be needed for your post LM routine. It's going to be a pain in the butt for you, but that extender will be your saving grace. If you need private advice on this, let me know. If not, we can discuss it here.
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He can do a combination of extender and manual bundled stretches.
 
Girth wise.
Today I tried to do SRT 10x10x2.
I wonder whats best SRT 5X5X4 or SRT 5X5X5 or 10x10x2.
In other words increasing set time or increasing sets.
 
For restarting back up, 5 minutes SSJ x 3 minutes pumping x 5 sets.

From there, readjust according to your needs. It can be 5 x 5 x 5, or 10 x 5 x 3. It's not about the negative pressure that you have to worry about. It's the internal positive pressure for your tissue type.
 
oldandlively said:
For restarting back up, 5 minutes SSJ x 3 minutes pumping x 5 sets.

From there, readjust according to your needs. It can be 5 x 5 x 5, or 10 x 5 x 3. It's not about the negative pressure that you have to worry about. It's the internal positive pressure for your tissue type.
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So invest more time in ssj, less in pumping?
 
trustr1 said:
So invest more time in ssj, less in pumping?
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Correct. The pump is merely to force the internal chambers to expand beyond what the internal chambers can handle. By influencing the internal chambers using positive pressure, and help the blood flow at an optimal level, helping your penis to recover faster and promoting growth over the pumping that causes fluid to build up both in the chambers and under the skin. Adjust the pumping accordingly. It can be 3 minutes, it can be 5 minutes, or it can even be 6 minutes. However, invest more time with SSJ, horse jelq, power jelq, and any heavy jelq to expand internally.

Just be careful as you use the positive pressure. Just like the LM plates pushing too much blood volume into the glans, higher hydraulic pressure towards the glans can cause rupture of the capillaries.
 
oldandlively said:
Correct. The pump is merely to force the internal chambers to expand beyond what the internal chambers can handle. By influencing the internal chambers using positive pressure, and help the blood flow at an optimal level, helping your penis to recover faster and promoting growth over the pumping that causes fluid to build up both in the chambers and under the skin. Adjust the pumping accordingly. It can be 3 minutes, it can be 5 minutes, or it can even be 6 minutes. However, invest more time with SSJ, horse jelq, power jelq, and any heavy jelq to expand internally.

Just be careful as you use the positive pressure. Just like the LM plates pushing too much blood volume into the glans, higher hydraulic pressure towards the glans can cause rupture of the capillaries.
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