Please advice - routine and progress
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36hours prior to this injury i had really good pumping session followed by durorings with ssj sets. My D was really girthy. And temp gains lasts up to 50 hours! I never saw temp gain beyond 24 hours. Wonder what that means.
I also wonders if this damn good girth session wasn't also related to the injury later happen in LM session.
36hours prior to this injury i had really good pumping session followed by durorings with ssj sets. My D was really girthy. And temp gains lasts up to 50 hours! I never saw temp gain beyond 24 hours. Wonder what that means.
I also wonders if this damn good girth session wasn't also related to the injury later happen in LM session.
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Tissue hyper expansion. After a good expansion, there's a very fine zone where you can further expand the tissues, which is hyper expansion. The fluid remains in the cells and between the different skin layers a bit longer. BUT, there is a moderate chance where the lymphatic drainage also get damaged, trapping the draining fluid. Without the free drainage through the lymphatic nodes, excess fluid pressure can build up and cause injuries.
Thanks.
And after 4 rest days I can really return to Length master intensive sessions without worrrying about re-rupture the injured spot?
And after 4 rest days I can really return to Length master intensive sessions without worrrying about re-rupture the injured spot?
Yes, that's the average time of break for cellular regeneration to heal. When restarting, don't go too crazy with the traction load and rip the healing area up again. Ease in.
Ok so I have started again after 4.5 days rest.
Still can reach to 21.6 bpfsl.
I dont know if its psycological or not, but i still feel sensitive and hard to to pull even slightly hard to a point it feel a good strech and no more.
Also BTW for some reason the strech power felt more intense in newbie routine than with sitted DBS (unrelated -even prior to the injury).
I also wonder if the wrapping method (thera + bandage) is the best comfort option? Also what is the theraband meant for as wrapping?
I understood some people do silicon sleeve with bandage for wrapping
Still can reach to 21.6 bpfsl.
I dont know if its psycological or not, but i still feel sensitive and hard to to pull even slightly hard to a point it feel a good strech and no more.
Also BTW for some reason the strech power felt more intense in newbie routine than with sitted DBS (unrelated -even prior to the injury).
I also wonder if the wrapping method (thera + bandage) is the best comfort option? Also what is the theraband meant for as wrapping?
I understood some people do silicon sleeve with bandage for wrapping
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It's not mental. It's physical. Sensitivity is an indicator the tissues have reset to some degrees and needs to ease back in.
The feeling of being more intense is because your tissues have time to reset back to either their restful state, OR, regains their higher sensitive state. Think about your arm being slapped every day, where your brain dull out the pain as a coping mechanism. When you stop for a few days, and smack your arm again, the intense pains return from the smacking. After a few days of continuous smacking, your pain receptors got dull again. This is the adoptive and adaptive mechanisms for your body. We have to play a very thin line to make your growth happen because of this.
The feeling of being more intense is because your tissues have time to reset back to either their restful state, OR, regains their higher sensitive state. Think about your arm being slapped every day, where your brain dull out the pain as a coping mechanism. When you stop for a few days, and smack your arm again, the intense pains return from the smacking. After a few days of continuous smacking, your pain receptors got dull again. This is the adoptive and adaptive mechanisms for your body. We have to play a very thin line to make your growth happen because of this.
That is excellent news. Congratulations on the break and coming back to some hardcore lengthmaster work.
Yeah well.
I don't get why sometimes I can feel convinient compression and good penis strech. And sometime it stops, and i feel either compression inconvinience like it bites me, my nerves, tissues, skin, you name it.. just doesn't feel right and painful. And also the streches are not working well as they used to be. Instead feeling goood strech i mainly feel inconvinience and pain but not the good strech pain.
Additionally my relatively fast bpfsl growth i had in 40 days+ stopped. And i stuck on 21.6-7 max i think close to a month now.
I suspect maybe fast growth was regain of old bpfsl that was reverted when i stopped LM.
Either way it feels like i lost track again.
If I won't find a solution and get back on track i might switch to weight compression hanging..
I don't get why sometimes I can feel convinient compression and good penis strech. And sometime it stops, and i feel either compression inconvinience like it bites me, my nerves, tissues, skin, you name it.. just doesn't feel right and painful. And also the streches are not working well as they used to be. Instead feeling goood strech i mainly feel inconvinience and pain but not the good strech pain.
Additionally my relatively fast bpfsl growth i had in 40 days+ stopped. And i stuck on 21.6-7 max i think close to a month now.
I suspect maybe fast growth was regain of old bpfsl that was reverted when i stopped LM.
Either way it feels like i lost track again.
If I won't find a solution and get back on track i might switch to weight compression hanging..
This is where the experimental wrapping will be required. If you don't like to discuss openly, we can discuss it through messages. We'll find a way to optimize the wrapping to prevent the highly compressive state you're feeling using the LM3. There are many ways to achieve total comforts without sacrificing the traction load during stretches. Let us know, brother.
This is not necessarily true. When your body detected pains and discomforts, it will retract to protect itself. Until you can find more comforts for the LM3 or your traction needs to do your routines, the body will adopts the stages of pain, and initiates new method to adapt to the pain. This means a halt on the gains, but not losing anything. We need to find a method to create comforts again where the body will adopt a relax state and readapt to the new traction load without engaging any kind of self-preservation mode.
You can use both. Weight can be a constant load, while LM3 can use as an initial moderate to high traction load breaker. OR, you can use hanging as an initial low traction load to relax the tissues, and luse LM3 to further break the tissues for longer hour of elongation for gains. Either way, you need mechanical assist to break the tissues around the penis as well as the tunica and septum for the length of the penis.
Thanks.
I don't mind if it's here or in private. I appreciate it.
I also replaced to new Theraband today. So i put theraband and then the bandage (i can roll maybe 6 rounds around my penis - snug). But now (didn't happend to me in first 50 days or so - Mostly) it feels like when I close the compression, the flat side is smashing me. So instead all my penis will be inside the rounded area some of it goes out to the flat side (on one side at least) and then its painful. Maybe its because i switched to new bandage and its more thick coat now. But i used it for some time with no such issue.
This is at least one of the issues. If i will find a way to feel comfort close I can tell if that makes a difference in the streches as well.
I don't mind if it's here or in private. I appreciate it.
I also replaced to new Theraband today. So i put theraband and then the bandage (i can roll maybe 6 rounds around my penis - snug). But now (didn't happend to me in first 50 days or so - Mostly) it feels like when I close the compression, the flat side is smashing me. So instead all my penis will be inside the rounded area some of it goes out to the flat side (on one side at least) and then its painful. Maybe its because i switched to new bandage and its more thick coat now. But i used it for some time with no such issue.
This is at least one of the issues. If i will find a way to feel comfort close I can tell if that makes a difference in the streches as well.
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From the pictures you look like you're doing everything correctly. I would say, mess with the wrap a bit more and if that doesn't work, try keeping your penis directly in the center, when stretching. Perhaps you need to do a hot wrap before you start.That may help you also.
I see what's going on now. Look at the top plate in relative to the lean angle. See how much more the front leans down than the back side? We can say, "Oh, it's because the plate is grabbing more girth at the back than the front." That angle creates a massive amount of focused traction load in one single area rather than distribute the load all around the girth of the penis. The angle focuses on either the top of the penis during a straight pull, and heavily kink the bottom when you do an angle pull.
Actually, that's not so. This is where the wrap needs to reduce in the total cover length, unless you want to just create a bit of protective area on the skin to prevent abrasion. You only want 3cm of the total length in between the plates to create sufficient traction hold and cushion wrapping. The bulk of the wrap should be equal from front to back. When you have the plates strapped on, make sure the dead center of the wrap is dead center of the plates. This is where the comforts will be achieved.
When you wrap, make sure to fully pull the foreskin back as much as you can. Don't allow any foreskin to be trapped and cinched inside the wrap. This is where the "pricklimg" or "painful" part comes in. Fully pull and straighten the foreskin out during wrapping. Don't allow the skin to fold or pinch inside the wrap. This is another comfort method.
Actually, that's not so. This is where the wrap needs to reduce in the total cover length, unless you want to just create a bit of protective area on the skin to prevent abrasion. You only want 3cm of the total length in between the plates to create sufficient traction hold and cushion wrapping. The bulk of the wrap should be equal from front to back. When you have the plates strapped on, make sure the dead center of the wrap is dead center of the plates. This is where the comforts will be achieved.
When you wrap, make sure to fully pull the foreskin back as much as you can. Don't allow any foreskin to be trapped and cinched inside the wrap. This is where the "pricklimg" or "painful" part comes in. Fully pull and straighten the foreskin out during wrapping. Don't allow the skin to fold or pinch inside the wrap. This is another comfort method.
Great stuff. Thank you.
So today prior reading your advice, i also thought to fold the Theraband, and then roll over it only and not more. And also i changed bandage to self adhesive wrap to make the wrap less thick (i guess i could get same effect by cutting the bandage shorter and i will try that next). And it was much better.
1. I could close the compression all the way or almost.
2. I could strech harder and without any unwanted pain - only good strech.
So that's already a step forward. I will try to incorporate your advice as well next.
I could reach 21.7 post bpfsl (not new), and I hope to see movement now with the better grip.
Thank you!
So today prior reading your advice, i also thought to fold the Theraband, and then roll over it only and not more. And also i changed bandage to self adhesive wrap to make the wrap less thick (i guess i could get same effect by cutting the bandage shorter and i will try that next). And it was much better.
1. I could close the compression all the way or almost.
2. I could strech harder and without any unwanted pain - only good strech.
So that's already a step forward. I will try to incorporate your advice as well next.
I could reach 21.7 post bpfsl (not new), and I hope to see movement now with the better grip.
Thank you!
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Just a bit of something to be aware of, as you increase the bulk of the wrap, the upper plate is also under intense pressure during the tightening. My suggestion is to see this mod:
This will further support the LM3 so you can go crazy with the strapping without the fear the *SNAP* or *CRACK* sound coming from the plate.
This will further support the LM3 so you can go crazy with the strapping without the fear the *SNAP* or *CRACK* sound coming from the plate.
Just spend an hour in my last 20min session trying to get it comfi plus adding the wrapping around the sides on each plates. In addition to every session i had in the past days.
My conclusion: I have no idea how to make this thing comfort. Or why in session 1 its decent comfort. In session 2 its impossible. In session 3 its 80% comfort and wow great strech. And on session 4 and 5 i just can't make it work.
Why on first month+ i had almost no such issues. And why in last month im having almost always issues with that. While im doing pretty much the exact same thing every time. It sucks.
I have a compression hanger on the way. I hope i would have a better luck with it.
My conclusion: I have no idea how to make this thing comfort. Or why in session 1 its decent comfort. In session 2 its impossible. In session 3 its 80% comfort and wow great strech. And on session 4 and 5 i just can't make it work.
Why on first month+ i had almost no such issues. And why in last month im having almost always issues with that. While im doing pretty much the exact same thing every time. It sucks.
I have a compression hanger on the way. I hope i would have a better luck with it.
Been there brother. When we all started using the old LM and even those who just started with the LM3, the reasoning for the inconsistent comfort is because of the penile tissue behavoirs. I'll explain why:
The first wrap, you have plenty of time when the penis is at its best during flaccid. After the first set, the body either loves the pull and traction load, and relaxes for the latter wraps, or when you push a bit too hard, the body says, "HELL NO!!" and shrivels up. This makes the wrapping harder for the latter sets. You can relax it with a bit of warm compress just for 30 to 60 seconds to relax the tissues again. If you want to go a bit longer, even better. It will relax the tissues even more for wrapping and for stretching.
For me, there are days where they are way too cold for just a quick wrap, the penis shrinks too fast, and the wrap is bad. When I strap the first layer (the TheraBand), then the bulky layers (the tape), the bulky layer cinch or folds the lower layer(s) together, causing pinches. SO, I slow downstretch the skin back completely, and only create a small wrapping segment at a time. If you have to slow down to wrap 1cm width at a a time, do it. If you need to cut down one set of stretches because you need to spend more time to wrap, so be it. The comforts on the wraps take precedent over the stretch since your body depends on the comforts during the pulls. Irritation will cause the penis to shrink.
The first wrap, you have plenty of time when the penis is at its best during flaccid. After the first set, the body either loves the pull and traction load, and relaxes for the latter wraps, or when you push a bit too hard, the body says, "HELL NO!!" and shrivels up. This makes the wrapping harder for the latter sets. You can relax it with a bit of warm compress just for 30 to 60 seconds to relax the tissues again. If you want to go a bit longer, even better. It will relax the tissues even more for wrapping and for stretching.
For me, there are days where they are way too cold for just a quick wrap, the penis shrinks too fast, and the wrap is bad. When I strap the first layer (the TheraBand), then the bulky layers (the tape), the bulky layer cinch or folds the lower layer(s) together, causing pinches. SO, I slow downstretch the skin back completely, and only create a small wrapping segment at a time. If you have to slow down to wrap 1cm width at a a time, do it. If you need to cut down one set of stretches because you need to spend more time to wrap, so be it. The comforts on the wraps take precedent over the stretch since your body depends on the comforts during the pulls. Irritation will cause the penis to shrink.
Thanks.
Just to be clear when i spoke about sessions, I was referring to different sessions done at different times. (Only 2 sessions a day) and not series of sets done one after another. Oh and I always warmup 10min before each session with a rice sock.
In any case i will try your advice as well tomorrow.
Appreciate it
Just to be clear when i spoke about sessions, I was referring to different sessions done at different times. (Only 2 sessions a day) and not series of sets done one after another. Oh and I always warmup 10min before each session with a rice sock.
In any case i will try your advice as well tomorrow.
Appreciate it
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Understood
Update:
For length - i do only hanging 3x20min a day. Currently at 4kg.
(I still believe the LM with bundeled streches is far more potent, I wish its compression design will be improved for better comfort.)
For girth - I back to SRT 5X5X3 as this and especially SSJ seems to cause the best internal pressure. At the end i might add few 5m python clamp sets.
Also i added 15m soft pump to maintain fullness. And i intent to add girth band for hours a day for the same purpose.
So far I feel good with this routine.
I will update once I see changes.
For length - i do only hanging 3x20min a day. Currently at 4kg.
(I still believe the LM with bundeled streches is far more potent, I wish its compression design will be improved for better comfort.)
For girth - I back to SRT 5X5X3 as this and especially SSJ seems to cause the best internal pressure. At the end i might add few 5m python clamp sets.
Also i added 15m soft pump to maintain fullness. And i intent to add girth band for hours a day for the same purpose.
So far I feel good with this routine.
I will update once I see changes.
I hear you brother. There are so many penis types out there. It's hard for one device to cover it all. I've played around with silicone paddings as an extra comfort add-on, but the design is still being perfected for larger and smaller penises for comforts. Wish I have my own full penis research and development team with me beside my remote teams. That's a dream for the brothers.
Who knows? Maybe some day
Hi friends,
How you all doing?
Had nothing new to update for a long time. Still nothing actually. Neither length or girth. Altough i started focusing mainly on girth lately.
I now reached a point where I end my session with 13.5-14.0cm EG (with edema of course) while my baseline is still 11.8cm EG.
So huge expension, but still no perm gain.
Started to get to this expension maybe since 40 days ago.
Basially either SRT 5x5x3 or 3x5 pump followed by 3x5min clamp. All pump session with NIR heat and heat fan combined. And up to 43 kpa.
I hope to see some perm gains soon.
Thanks.
How you all doing?
Had nothing new to update for a long time. Still nothing actually. Neither length or girth. Altough i started focusing mainly on girth lately.
I now reached a point where I end my session with 13.5-14.0cm EG (with edema of course) while my baseline is still 11.8cm EG.
So huge expension, but still no perm gain.
Started to get to this expension maybe since 40 days ago.
Basially either SRT 5x5x3 or 3x5 pump followed by 3x5min clamp. All pump session with NIR heat and heat fan combined. And up to 43 kpa.
I hope to see some perm gains soon.
Thanks.
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Good to see you're checking in, brother. So, what have you been doing since the last time you've taken off? Completely rested to allow your tissues to turnover?
To be honest, looking back, I wish I have done that.
No I tried different routines.
Tried compression hanging for length but stopped it recently.
Tried long pumping sessions (40-60min)..
I did take few breaks for week-month maybe. But not longer.
Nothing stick.
Now with that new expension i get i hope to see some progress. Altough im not sure how much of it is edema.
Be sure to check out the SRT routine it will really get you growing quickly
If you can recollect all the routines so far, and the consistency of each routine for at least 4 months, which do you see provides some kind of gain, no matter how small. Do a deep recall.
How long of a period? Just using the info as refence to build a plan for you.
40 to 60 minutes of pure pumping is a bit much. SSJ into the work as well right? Or straight pumping?
Since you have a short break, that should allow a turnover event for the tissues to work with. When you mentioned nothing stuck, nothing with flaccid? Girth? Absolutely no length?
Thanks!
No gain what so ever in the last 18 months if not more. Flaccid, erect, length, girth. Nothing.
In length i have bpfsl of 21.8cm but bpel of 18.8 so I turned to more girth work.
My last routine seems to provide me with the most expension post workout.
Compression hanging I did maybe 2 months. Yeah it's a little time I know. Just decided to focus girth work more. And i could not pump high pressure after the compression. So stopped for now.
For the long pump routine I wad just stayed in the pump for 40-60 minutes in one or two sessions. Nothing else except maybe a ring after.
By the way I started recently (week+) also the Angion method. Just playing with it before pumping.
Seems like no matter what I do, my tissues insist to go back to its original size.
No gain what so ever in the last 18 months if not more. Flaccid, erect, length, girth. Nothing.
In length i have bpfsl of 21.8cm but bpel of 18.8 so I turned to more girth work.
My last routine seems to provide me with the most expension post workout.
Compression hanging I did maybe 2 months. Yeah it's a little time I know. Just decided to focus girth work more. And i could not pump high pressure after the compression. So stopped for now.
For the long pump routine I wad just stayed in the pump for 40-60 minutes in one or two sessions. Nothing else except maybe a ring after.
By the way I started recently (week+) also the Angion method. Just playing with it before pumping.
Seems like no matter what I do, my tissues insist to go back to its original size.
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So, let's refocus on the wants, which is girth, and the needs, which the proper routines.
We can't be in the pump for 20 to 40 minutes and expect to gain. The only you will get a gain of is a very high level edema.
In girth, you have to use the positive pressure to force the tissues to stress, which is the jelqs (SSJ, horse, titan, DLD Basters, etc.). The negative pressure takes advantage of the stressed tissues by forcing more blood in. You have to do the back and forth to get gains, from positive to negative, and negative back to positive. If we just stick our penises in the pump under pressures and we can all gain like it's a normal walk in the park, we all have massive girths by now.
Let's revise your workout routine availability of time for consistent application of the girth exercises. Can't be wanting girth and not put into the proper time and workout routine.
We can't be in the pump for 20 to 40 minutes and expect to gain. The only you will get a gain of is a very high level edema.
In girth, you have to use the positive pressure to force the tissues to stress, which is the jelqs (SSJ, horse, titan, DLD Basters, etc.). The negative pressure takes advantage of the stressed tissues by forcing more blood in. You have to do the back and forth to get gains, from positive to negative, and negative back to positive. If we just stick our penises in the pump under pressures and we can all gain like it's a normal walk in the park, we all have massive girths by now.
Let's revise your workout routine availability of time for consistent application of the girth exercises. Can't be wanting girth and not put into the proper time and workout routine.
Try the approach for 2 months, 4 on, 1 off approach. See where this takes you. Be consistent with that one full hour. If you do see changes, let us know. We'll focus around that. Remember, consistency. Make sure to apply heat while you do your stretch since there is a unresponsive malleability issue in your past exercise on standard exercises alone.
If within that 2 months there is no change whatsoever, we'll come with an approach that will push your body boundary.
If within that 2 months there is no change whatsoever, we'll come with an approach that will push your body boundary.
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