Silistretcher vs Stealth Stretcher?

[thedudefather]

Either and both.

If you want to stress the lower hidden side before stressing the rest of the penile length, do near the base so you don't stress the remain upper portion first, then rest the remaining upper portion. The mounted point can double the stresses if you start near the middle first to stretch the inner penis, then later mount a little higher at the base of the glans. As you stretch, the lower mounted location double the stress loads, causing the thinning of the tissues due to twice the stressing.

You can separate the stretches near the base of the penis and near the base of the glans in two separate routine, spacing out around 5 hour apart. If you want to tackle both the inner penis and the entire length of the penile shaft, starts at the base of the glans first, then near the base of the penis afterwards. That way, the stress load can be protected on the second mounting point since the stress load will be much less during the latter stretches.

What if I did 15 mins of inner penis and 15 mins of shaft stretching in the morning and then 5x5x3 at night? Once I'm back in condition, of course.

Would that be overdoing it?

 

[oldandlively]

What if I did 15 mins of inner penis and 15 mins of shaft stretching in the morning and then 5x5x3 at night? Once I'm back in condition, of course.

Would that be overdoing it?

Nope. You can go as long as 30 minutes for innner and 30 minutes for shaft if you like, as long as you're comfortable. 5x5x3 is perfectly fine at night.

 

[thedudefather]

Nope. You can go as long as 30 minutes for innner and 30 minutes for shaft if you like, as long as you're comfortable. 5x5x3 is perfectly fine at night.

Awesome. Another question i have is: what's the pressure threshold for pumping gains again? 9hg?

I've been easing into a 5/6/7/6/7 routine and it gives me a good pump but doesnt carry over to the next day so its just a full flaccid and not still pumped. Would that be enough pressure to combine with the morning stretches?

 

[oldandlively]

Awesome. Another question i have is: what's the pressure threshold for pumping gains again? 9hg?

Light is from -4.5inHg to -6.5inHg. Moderate is around -6.5inHg to -8.5inHg. Optimal high is -8.5inHg to -10inHg, but you have to slowly condition yourself up. From -10inHg to -15inHg, this is upper thresholds for anyone. In this range, cellular breakdown occurs rapidly. Again, the body needs to condition itself to get to this stage. Never jump up to this range in less than 9 months. I even recommend it not to be here until 12 months of stretching and pumping later.

I've been easing into a 5/6/7/6/7 routine and it gives me a good pump but doesnt carry over to the next day so its just a full flaccid and not still pumped. Would that be enough pressure to combine with the morning stretches?

Morning stetches, if your high pressure is already reaching -9inHg, stay at -9inHg for just 60 seconds in a rise and fall dynamic pressure pumping every set. So, something like 30 seconds in -5inHg, then 30 seconds at -7inHg, down to -5inHg for 30 seconds, rise up to -9inhg for 30 seconds, down to -7inHg for 30 seconds, and fluctutate and down between -9inHg and -7inHg until you complete your set. My suggestion is also add more time to the SSJ total time. It's more critical in expanding internally than external vacuum force. This is where you get your nice long expansion period after the pump sets are over.

 

[thedudefather]

Light is from -4.5inHg to -6.5inHg. Moderate is around -6.5inHg to -8.5inHg. Optimal high is -8.5inHg to -10inHg, but you have to slowly condition yourself up. From -10inHg to -15inHg, this is upper thresholds for anyone. In this range, cellular breakdown occurs rapidly. Again, the body needs to condition itself to get to this stage. Never jump up to this range in less than 9 months. I even recommend it not to be here until 12 months of stretching and pumping later.



Morning stetches, if your high pressure is already reaching -9inHg, stay at -9inHg for just 60 seconds in a rise and fall dynamic pressure pumping every set. So, something like 30 seconds in -5inHg, then 30 seconds at -7inHg, down to -5inHg for 30 seconds, rise up to -9inhg for 30 seconds, down to -7inHg for 30 seconds, and fluctutate and down between -9inHg and -7inHg until you complete your set. My suggestion is also add more time to the SSJ total time. It's more critical in expanding internally than external vacuum force. This is where you get your nice long expansion period after the pump sets are over.

What i meant was, if I do my stretches in the morning, would my evening pumping range be enough to facilitate growth?

 

[DLD]

Boy that post session fatigue really felt good. Definitely missed it and glad to be finally back in the swing of things.

Isn't that the best when we feel fatigue and not pain? This way, we know we can keep going. I'm so happy you have found your happy place where you're getting in extremely good work

 

[oldandlively]

What i meant was, if I do my stretches in the morning, would my evening pumping range be enough to facilitate growth?

Yes, and yes. Stretches in the morning get things rolling. Pumping in the evening simply prolongs the state of PE stressors a bit longer.

 

[thedudefather]

Yes, and yes. Stretches in the morning get things rolling. Pumping in the evening simply prolongs the state of PE stressors a bit longer.

Understood. So that lower level of pressure is just fine.

 

[thedudefather]

Ok, first am length session done. 15 mins of near base expressive stretches to loosen the ligs and 15 mins of shaft stretches to pull out inner penis. Only did a half bundle to get back in, will increase bundles weekly.

Slapped on a silisleeve5 for 8hrs of healing, will be doing 5x5x3 tonight at a low pressure.

@@oldandlively and/or @DLD is this routine tenable for 7 straight days, or should I go 5 on/2 off?

 

[thedudefather]

@oldandlively *

 

[oldandlively]

Ok, first am length session done. 15 mins of near base expressive stretches to loosen the ligs and 15 mins of shaft stretches to pull out inner penis. Only did a half bundle to get back in, will increase bundles weekly.

Slapped on a silisleeve5 for 8hrs of healing, will be doing 5x5x3 tonight at a low pressure.

@@oldandlively and/or @DLD is this routine tenable for 7 straight days, or should I go 5 on/2 off?

Yes, you can as long as you don't observe heavy fatigueness or overstressing.

How does it feel with this modified approach compared to the prior approach? Notice any unique and slight differences? Or significant sensation after workout?

 

[thedudefather]

Yes, you can as long as you don't observe heavy fatigueness or overstressing.

How does it feel with this modified approach compared to the prior approach? Notice any unique and slight differences? Or significant sensation after workout?

Well first thing I noticed was obviously i was limited with how many bundles I could do while lengthmaster was placed near base for expressive stretches, as well as a slight feeling of skin pull which loosened as my session went on.

It honestly felt great stretching again, and I really look forward to seeing how this works for me.

 

[oldandlively]

The closer to the base the LM plates are, the higher the traction loads will act on the ligaments. Most don't have the heart to strap that close down since it can cause discomforts because of the foreskin slipping and sliding. It's all about the wrapping methods to prevent that and get the real benefits of the low and high tension workout. The great exercise is using the handlebars to tip to one side or angle tilt to optimize the leveraging pull to stress the suspensory ligament alone, then angle downward with a slight tilt to attack the fundiform ligament to release the inner shaft a bit more. Mechanical assist is the only way to 0make these two ligaments comply, besides long hours of free weight hanging.

 

[thedudefather]

The closer to the base the LM plates are, the higher the traction loads will act on the ligaments. Most don't have the heart to strap that close down since it can cause discomforts because of the foreskin slipping and sliding. It's all about the wrapping methods to prevent that and get the real benefits of the low and high tension workout. The great exercise is using the handlebars to tip to one side or angle tilt to optimize the leveraging pull to stress the suspensory ligament alone, then angle downward with a slight tilt to attack the fundiform ligament to release the inner shaft a bit more. Mechanical assist is the only way to 0make these two ligaments comply, besides long hours of free weight hanging.

I did up/out/down for 5 mins each for both shaft and expressive stretches. Going to work on more angles as I progress.

 

[thedudefather]

Do you think I'd be sacrificing any gains if I removed the sleeve to take my dog on evening walks and get blood flowing before I do girth work?

 

[oldandlively]

Do you think I'd be sacrificing any gains if I removed the sleeve to take my dog on evening walks and get blood flowing before I do girth work?

Your gain is still there, even after a few hours of not having the sleeve on. Just manually stretch a bit, and slap the sleeve back on. Cell divisions don't just magically happen in an instant. It will take a few hours.

 

[thedudefather]

Your gain is still there, even after a few hours of not having the sleeve on. Just manually stretch a bit, and slap the sleeve back on. Cell divisions don't just magically happen in an instant. It will take a few hours.

I took my walk then did 5x5x3 and wore a siliring for an hour after and went to bed shortly after that, all the resting gainzz

 

[thedudefather]

Woke up this morning with no pump but still full, morning stretch session went without a hitch so I think this plan will work for me.

Granted, there will be some mornings I won't be able to stretch due to work but I'll make it up in the afternoons when I can.

 

[thedudefather]

One thing I'm noticing as well is the lack of pull back I'd previously get. Doing expressive stretches to weaken then ligs has allowed me to heal in a more elongated state and not have my sleeve roll up on itself at the base

 

[DLD]

One thing I'm noticing as well is the lack of pull back I'd previously get. Doing expressive stretches to weaken then ligs has allowed me to heal in a more elongated state and not have my sleeve roll up on itself at the base

That's great news. Are you staying elongated after each session using a wrap?

 

[thedudefather]

That's great news. Are you staying elongated after each session using a wrap?

Yessir! Getting anywhere from 8-10hrs elongated with a silisleeve5.

And post 5x5x3 I'm wearing my siliring for an hour to maintain expansion.

 

[thedudefather]

As I get started this morning, I realized what was causing the skin pull feeling - i was securing my lm3 too close to where my scrotum connects to my shaft and was getting sack skin twisted up

Problem solved

 

[DLD]

Yessir! Getting anywhere from 8-10hrs elongated with a silisleeve5.

And post 5x5x3 I'm wearing my siliring for an hour to maintain expansion.

That's what I want to hear excellent work.Keeping yourself extended and keeping yourself expanded are two of the greatest ways to promote growth.

 

[thedudefather]

That's what I want to hear excellent work.Keeping yourself extended and keeping yourself expanded are two of the greatest ways to promote growth.

Glad this routine seems to be working out for me!

 

[thedudefather]

Day 4 and really enjoying the new stretching routine. Doing a half bundle for expressive and a full bundle for shaft stretching really helps.

 

[oldandlively]

Excellent. Try this if you have a bit more time on your hand:

Add 1 to 2 minutes of warm compress before and after each expressive stretch exercise. Observe the tissue relaxation on the application of heat on a 1 minute length vs 2 minutes in between each set of exercise. The best time to apply is also a 3 to 5 minutes post exercise window as well, while using wrap, sleeve, or extender. It's a trick mechanism we use to falsify the penis is closer to the body than it's really is and reprogram it to adopt the new relaxation strategy.

 

[thedudefather]

Excellent. Try this if you have a bit more time on your hand:

Add 1 to 2 minutes of warm compress before and after each expressive stretch exercise. Observe the tissue relaxation on the application of heat on a 1 minute length vs 2 minutes in between each set of exercise. The best time to apply is also a 3 to 5 minutes post exercise window as well, while using wrap, sleeve, or extender. It's a trick mechanism we use to falsify the penis is closer to the body than it's really is and reprogram it to adopt the new relaxation strategy.

Damn I like that, gonna give it a try tomorrow morning

 

[thedudefather]

@oldandlively before I do the warm compress, would a space heater work as well?

 

[oldandlively]

Yes. But try to keep it close to the skin as possible to maximize heat transfers to the lower layers of the skins, without burning the penis off.

 

[thedudefather]

Yes. But try to keep it close to the skin as possible to maximize heat transfers to the lower layers of the skins, without burning the penis off.

I had the heater at about half power and held it close, really worked to loosen everything up.

 

[DLD]

Yes. But try to keep it close to the skin as possible to maximize heat transfers to the lower layers of the skins, without burning the penis off.

I used a space heater to, and this was before the MOSRED. This was a great warm up and then just keep the heater going as you train.

 

[thedudefather]

I used a space heater to, and this was before the MOSRED. This was a great warm up and then just keep the heater going as you train.

You know, i have an mosred, but I'm confused on how far away I should be from it. One thread i saw said 6", another said right up next to the skin.

 

[oldandlively]

You can do both. 6in away provides sufficient radiating areas, but can be as close to the crotch without worrying being cooked to death.

 

[thedudefather]

You can do both. 6in away provides sufficient radiating areas, but can be as close to the crotch without worrying being cooked to death.

And is that after throwing both switches or is that for NIR/red specific?

 

[DLD]

And is that after throwing both switches or is that for NIR/red specific?

@oldandlively

 

[oldandlively]

And is that after throwing both switches or is that for NIR/red specific?

NIR/Red specific. I believe the dual switch runs the normal IR for the shallow (down to 2mm) penetration, while the second switch turns on the NIR+ with the upper red spectrum for deeper penetration (up to 4mm). The MoS Red can penetrate up to the full 7mm if you move the light closer to the skin with the NIR+ based on the LED specs and angles.

 

[DLD]

NIR/Red specific. I believe the dual switch runs the normal IR for the shallow (down to 2mm) penetration, while the second switch turns on the NIR+ with the upper red spectrum for deeper penetration (up to 4mm). The MoS Red can penetrate up to the full 7mm if you move the light closer to the skin with the NIR+ based on the LED specs and angles.

You are exactly right. This is the proper way to use the MOSRED

 

[thedudefather]

I added 5 mins of btc shaft stretches. I'm impatient

 

[DLD]

I added 5 mins of btc shaft stretches. I'm impatient

Not impatient inspired is a better word. But I understand wanting to get to your goal as fast as possible. So keep up the good work and add intensity as needed.