Progress thread Tommy Gun's Journey

[Tommy Gun]

Okey I understand. I'm asking because I get ~ 13% BPFSL increase directly after a good session with LENGTHMASTER 3, doing BTC Bundled Stretches.
My BPFSL go from, 15 cm to 17 cm.

I have gained a lot of length, so in a way I have performed my own study. I did watch BD, but I got a feeling that he was promoting slow gains. Since he was afraid of stretching sorness?

I don't know, I can be wrong. But how many men out there have done this kind of stretching at the intensity I'm doing it. I have even modified the LENGTHMASTER 3 in order to stretch harder.
I gained ~2.7 inches in length in 6 months.

That sounds like one of those ads haha
Thats seriously impressive!
Is that erect length or just flaccid?

I agree with you 100%
I did intense stretching routines in the past and gained quite a bit.

But I did get injured.... again. And again, and again...
So im cool with a slow approach now.
From my personal experience it got to where I was getting injured and then tried to come back at the same intensity for the fear of missing potential gains.
I was too impatient to try to slowly get back to where I was, only to get injured in the process.
Long story short I was taking too many days off due to injury.
I know some guys like yourself are able to stretch the living crap out of your dick and gain significantly fast because of it.
Makes me jealous haha

I guess it all depends on how fast you want to gain.
I'm comfortable enough with my size now to where I'm cool with gains coming slower.

 

[CRay2323]

BD said in the video he uses those percentages because if you stretch a liagment too much it tends to want to retract and ya him and his partner are all about small gains over time.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

That sounds like one of those ads haha
Thats seriously impressive!
Is that erect length or just flaccid?

I agree with you 100%
I did intense stretching routines in the past and gained quite a bit.

But I did get injured.... again. And again, and again...
So im cool with a slow approach now.
From my personal experience it got to where I was getting injured and then tried to come back at the same intensity for the fear of missing potential gains.
I was too impatient to try to slowly get back to where I was, only to get injured in the process.
Long story short I was taking too many days off due to injury.
I know some guys like yourself are able to stretch the living crap out of your dick and gain significantly fast because of it.
Makes me jealous haha

I guess it all depends on how fast you want to gain.
I'm comfortable enough with my size now to where I'm cool with gains coming slower.

2.7 inches increase in BPEL in 6 months. I'm at ~2.9 (2.87") inches BPEL increase now, *Edit: Or probably more like 3.07" increase. But when it's not solidified, it not stable.
13% in BPFSL increase measured directly after a session.

Okey. Now I understand your approach I'm sorry for the injuries you experienced in the past, I hope you are fully recovered. I hope it will work better for you now. I wish I could use an extender, but I'm so afraid it will remove my upward bend in my penis. To just sit with it and maybe be able to do other things during that PE session, like reading a book must be awesome.

Yeah! Stretch the living crap out of the dick may be what is going on...but it's more alive now.

BD said in the video he uses those percentages because if you stretch a liagment too much it tends to want to retract and ya him and his partner are all about small gains over time.

Okey, this cleared everything up for me. I suppose not everyone want fast gains.

I know nothing about extenders. It's interesting to follow you, @CRay2323 and @Tommy Gun to learn about extenders. Maybe this will be an option for me in the future. It's harder for me to get in my sessions now.

 

[Tommy Gun]

Thank you for the support!
I'm fully recovered now for sure.
I'm as straight as an arrow so I have no idea if it would would get rid of an upward bend or not.

Yea I got my fast gains early on in my journey with the brotherhood.

This extender is supposed to replace hanging so that's why I got it.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

Thank you for the support!
I'm fully recovered now for sure.
I'm as straight as an arrow so I have no idea if it would would get rid of an upward bend or not.

Yea I got my fast gains early on in my journey with the brotherhood.

This extender is supposed to replace hanging so that's why I got it.

Awesome.
How long are you now in BPEL?

 

[DLD]

2.7 inches increase in BPEL in 6 months. I'm at ~2.9 (2.87") inches BPEL increase now, *Edit: Or probably more like 3.07" increase. But when it's not solidified, it not stable.
13% in BPFSL increase measured directly after a session.]
Fucking insane growth

 

[Tommy Gun]

Awesome.
How long are you now in BPEL?

I haven't measured in awhile.
But I've been getting complimented on my size frequently so I think im about the same as I was when I stopped.
Which was a little over 7.75"
Girth was a little over 6 at the base and 5 3/4 mid shaft.
One thing about my journey despite my injuries is I have been lucky retaining my gains.
I think thats because I was practicing SRT religiously for a year

I'm pretty close to my lifetime goal anyway.
I want to get to 8.25×6
I think with how close I am already it's 100% going to happen within the next 6 months easy.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

I haven't measured in awhile.
But I've been getting complimented on my size frequently so I think im about the same as I was when I stopped.
Which was a little over 7.75"
Girth was a little over 6 at the base and 5 3/4 mid shaft.
One thing about my journey despite my injuries is I have been lucky retaining my gains.
I think thats because I was practicing SRT religiously for a year

I'm pretty close to my lifetime goal anyway.
I want to get to 8.25×6
I think with how close I am already it's 100% going to happen within the next 6 months easy.

That's amazing. 6 months left (and some to solidify?).

 

[Tommy Gun]

Another thing I should mention is I'm doing every other day for training.
Will this be enough to stimulate growth?
I have no idea. But I think its easier on my body long term.
It's also closer to how I want my maintenance routine to be anyway.
So if I can still gain doing every other day that's even better for me.
I'll always do some form of PE.
Especially pumping. It's a satisfaction thing seeing the temporary expansion and I honestly think it's fun

 

[WannaGet]

Another thing I should mention is I'm doing every other day for training.
Will this be enough to stimulate growth?
I have no idea. But I think its easier on my body long term.
It's also closer to how I want my maintenance routine to be anyway.
So if I can still gain doing every other day that's even better for me.
I'll always do some form of PE.
Especially pumping. It's a satisfaction thing seeing the temporary expansion and I honestly think it's fun

SIM trains 2 on 1 off and gained I believe almost 3 inches in just 6 months! If you train will similar intensity and consistency then I imagine you'd be able to smash your goals in the same timeframe if you train 1 on 1 off.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

SIM trains 2 on 1 off and gained I believe almost 3 inches in just 6 months! If you train will similar intensity and consistency then I imagine you'd be able to smash your goals in the same timeframe if you train 1 on 1 off.

Correction I'm training, 3:1.
That is: 3 days on and 1 day off, and repeat.

When I was doing hand stretches with my broomstick, I trained with less rest, like 6 days per week and one day rest.
I believe rest needs to be something we need to plan in advance. Not to much rest, just to keep you going so you can use full intensity the next session.

If you train will similar intensity and consistency then I imagine you'd be able to smash your goals in the same timeframe if you train 1 on 1 off.

I don't believe 1:1 will be the same as 3:1.

We need to do what works for us.
MOS-RED will help you to stretch with higher intensity, it will also help you to heal your skin (soreness) faster. MOS-RED will also keep discoloration at bay.

 

[WannaGet]

Correction I'm training, 3:1.
That is: 3 days on and 1 day off, and repeat.

When I was doing hand stretches with my broomstick, I trained with less rest, like 6 days per week and one day rest.
I believe rest needs to be something we need to plan in advance. Not to much rest, just to keep you going so you can use full intensity the next session.


I don't believe 1:1 will be the same as 3:1.

We need to do what works for us.
MOS-RED will help you to stretch with higher intensity, it will also help you to heal your skin (soreness) faster. MOS-RED will also keep discoloration at bay.

Oh, my mistake! I must've gotten you confused with another member.

I don't think he'll get the same results as you either while only training every other day, but based on his earlier posts, it sounds like he needs 1 inch length and 3/4 inch girth to cement his goal size, so I believe it's reasonable for him to attain them in his timeframe. I'm not overly familiar with extenders though, so his gains might come slower than I'm anticipating.

@Tommy Gun I could be wrong about this too but I believe @DLD said he only did his maintenance routine once a week, I've been lurking on this site just doing a lot of reading for a few years though, so that info could very well be outdated. If you're able to spend more days of the week doing active PE then you'll likely reach your goals and be able to switch to a maintenance routine with a lower frequency sooner. Just make sure if that's the case that you're listening to your body and taking rest days as you see fit in order to avoid injury.

I'm trying to offer what knowledge I can but I'd definitely defer to the more experienced members for confirmation. If I'm wrong don't be afraid to call me out, it's the fastest way for me to learn! Good luck with your routine either way, I've got my fingers crossed for ya!

 

[Tommy Gun]

I spent 14 minutes before my length protocol working on malleability today.
I did half the amount of work...
And I got the same elongation at the end of the workout!
2.5% increase in only 20 minutes total in the extender.
This is great news considering I plan to only add 5 minutes in the extender every 2-3 weeks.
If I'm able to hit over 2% increase with this little volume that is a very good sign for growth going forward.
My approach this go around is maximum recovery before my next session.

 

[Tommy Gun]

Side note on why I'm liking extending at the moment.
I had some pretty noticeable turkey neck action going on.
Now that I'm using a method that is holding my skin firm at the base, while stretching the shaft.
It's only been 3 sessions and my turkey neck is barely noticeable now

 

[DLD]

Side not on why I'm liking extending at the moment.
I had some pretty noticeable turkey neck action going on.
Now that I'm using a method that is holding my skin firm at the base, while stretching the shaft.
It's only been 3 sessions and my turkey neck is barely noticeable now

Excellent

 

[Tommy Gun]

Excellent

Thank you! @DLD
Hope you're doing well brother

 

[DLD]

Thank you! @DLD
Hope you're doing well brother

Doing as good as an old man can do

 

[Tommy Gun]

Managed to hit a 3% increase in length post session instead of the usual 2.5% I get.
I tried really hard to reverse Kegal the entire time so I think thats how I was able to get the extra increase despite keeping the tension exactly the same as last session.
That or I was just in a much more relaxed state.

Last session of the week will be Sunday morning.

 

[DLD]

The reverse Kegel is always young. To be the best thing to do when you stretch. It brings length so much faster.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

The reverse Kegel is always young. To be the best thing to do when you stretch. It brings length so much faster.

I agree, you need reverse Kegels for fast gains. And what I have discovered also, is that if you stretch hard with LENGTHMASTER 3, it's easier to relax into the stretch if you pull really hard.

 

[DLD]

I agree, you need reverse Kegels for fast gains. And what I have discovered also, is that if you stretch hard with LENGTHMASTER 3, it's easier to relax into the stretch if you pull really hard.

This is because the reverse kegel totally relaxes the pelvic floor muscles completely leaving you free to stretch without resistance

 

[Tommy Gun]

Week 2 is finished!

Recap of everything so far.
My penis is looking the healthiest it's ever been. Flaccid hang is very apparent. EQ is so good im popping boners randomly like im 16 again.

Week 3 I will only be adding .5lbs of tension.
Time will stay the same in the extender
20 minutes total

I'm glad I started out slow and have a routine that is every other day. For me it makes it way less stressful and I'm recovering fully.

 

[DLD]

So happy to see you sticking around!

 

[Tommy Gun]

First session of week 3 was today.
Had a bit of a hiccup.
So I use a vacuum bell for my extender. And I use the water trick.
Thank God for this trick because it actually let me know that I had a hole in my sleeve!
This hole was so small but during my 3rd strain set in the extender I was losing suction and closer inspection showed water literally spraying out the back of the sleeve.
When I took it off you couldn't even see the hole with the naked eye it was so small.
No worries.
Tossed in the trash and got a new one which secured a perfect vacuum.
Going to start adding nail clipping and filing down my nails to be baby smooth from here on out.
Thats the only way I could have gotten a hole in this sleeve so quickly.

Finished off my routine with 2.5% increase from starting flaccid size.
My tension is up to 5lbs in the extender.
Going to keep this weight for quite awhile and will only be adding 5 minute sets every few weeks or until I no longer get at least a 2% post workout elongation.

 

[Abdiel Bull Berg]

Glad to see you going at it strong brother. Hope you gain beyond your dreams.

Btw tried searching reverse kegel but nothing came up, could you or maybe someone else explain it a bit for me? Will be highly appreciated.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

Btw tried searching reverse kegel but nothing came up, could you or maybe someone else explain it a bit for me? Will be highly appreciated.

Reverse Kegels = Relax your PC muscles fully when you stretch. Relax into the stretch fully. This is needed for fast gains, and in order to stretch your entire penis at the same time (inner penis and outer penis).

Look at this thread:
PC muscles anatomy.

 

[Abdiel Bull Berg]

Reverse Kegels = Relax your PC muscles fully when you stretch. Relax into the stretch fully. This is needed for fast gains, and in order to stretch your entire penis at the same time (inner penis and outer penis).

Look at this thread:
PC muscles anatomy.

Thank you brother. Learned something new today.

 

[Tommy Gun]

I don't know what was so different about my routine today but I really felt it.
2.48% increase post session.
Will definitely need a rest day tomorrow. I don't feel overworked but the strain was intense for the last 10 minutes.
I did change my sitting position so maybe that was it.
But I maintained 5lbs of tension for the whole session.

Up 5MM BPSFL in 17 days so pretty happy with that.
Not measuring BPEL until the end of week 4 but it will definitely be longer

 

[Tommy Gun]

I also got a weird question for anyone that might know the answer to this
Can you bring PE equipment on a plane?
The only items I want are the apex extender and the mityvac
Just wanting to see if TSA would take them for whatever reason

 

[DLD]

Put it in carry on.

 

[Tommy Gun]

Week 3 is complete!

So far I'm up 7MM in BPSFL!
I'm still only using 5lbs of tension in an extender every other day for 20 minutes.

I am starting to get below 2.5% post workout elongation so I will be adding another 5 minute set.
I believe in adding more sets before more weight.
This should put me closer to a 3% elongation post workout which I would be more comfortable with

 

[DLD]

Week 3 is complete!

So far I'm up 7MM in BPSFL!
I'm still only using 5lbs of tension in an extender every other day for 20 minutes.

I am starting to get below 2.5% post workout elongation so I will be adding another 5 minute set.
I believe in adding more sets before more weight.
This should put me closer to a 3% elongation post workout which I would be more comfortable with

Congratulations

 

[Tommy Gun]

Congratulations

Thank you!

 

[CRay2323]

I’m loving this programming also buddy. Congrats on your gains!

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

Congrats to the gains brother.
Gains makes us happy in this brotherhood.

 

[Tommy Gun]

Just 1 more workout until I'm done with week 4!
My EQ is insane, libido is also very high. Im sure I've gained EL but I'm not measuring yet.
I was just with a girl last night and she even said I was big so thats all I need to hear at the moment haha

My girth is also looking noticeably bigger and is staying around much longer after sessions. Upwards of 8-10 hours now.

I'm going to take a week off starting Monday to allow my progress to keep making leaps and bounds and to not allow strength adaptation.

I am going to measure at the start and end of my week off to see if there are any changes but I highly doubt it.

 

[DLD]

The best measure is that confidence we get from our lovers

 

[Tommy Gun]

The best measure is that confidence we get from our lovers

There's no better feeling when they compliment your size, and you know they mean it
Makes all the time spent doing PE worth it

 

[DLD]

There's no better feeling when they compliment your size, and you know they mean it
Makes all the time spent doing PE worth it

That was always my favorite thing... a woman's measurement is so motivating

 

[Tommy Gun]

Week 4 is complete!
Taking a week off now.
I noticed my fatigue rate was dropping below 2% on my last workout
Instead of upping the weight and duration of the workout I'm giving my tissue time to heal and allow the fatigue to get back to baseline.
Pretty crazy I'm hitting strain metrics already considering BD says you probably won't until 3 months in.

Start of week 5 will be 25 minutes in the extender, and my pump sessions will stay the exact same except I will go up to 7Hg
I've been doing 6.5Hg for the past 4 weeks with minimal discoloration so I think its safe to move up in pressure.
First session will only be 6.5Hg because of the week off but every session afterwards will be 7.
I'll start measuring for the pump as well.
You want 6-8% expansion post workout.
Pretty sure I'm already there but again month 1 was getting my body back on track.
I am slowly (emphasis on slowly) getting back up. If I can gain 1 inch in a year I would be more than happy with that.
I've already made amazing gains so I really am doing it now because I think its fun and just want to see how big I can actually get

 

[DLD]

A smart man knows how to make smart moves. 1 week of rest is beneficial after much time. Just be sure to start again as soon as break ends

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

A smart man knows how to make smart moves. 1 week of rest is beneficial after much time. Just be sure to start again as soon as break ends

Yes! Rest should be planned, and have a purpose behind it. The dicipline needs to be put in place always. Efficient rest is as important as doing PE itself.

 

[DLD]

Right, it needs to be planned

 

[Tommy Gun]

Yes! Rest should be planned, and have a purpose behind it. The dicipline needs to be put in place always. Efficient rest is as important as doing PE itself.

100%
Only reason I'm taking rest is to not allow strength adaptation in the tissue.
We want fatigue but not at the expense of making our junk so strong to where we need ridiculous tension to cause growth factors

 

[Tommy Gun]

I'll hit the ground running again next Monday.
This week is all about quality sleep, hydration, clean diet, and abstaining from sex and masturbation as much as possible.
Only once a day max for sex/masturbation
And if I can handle it possibly every 48 hours

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

100%
Only reason I'm taking rest is to not allow strength adaptation in the tissue.
We want fatigue but not at the expense of making our junk so strong to where we need ridiculous tension to cause growth factors

Had no idea about this. Are you sure this is validated?
I have been stretching with every muscle fibre in my entire body (as hard as I can) during my entire length increase journey, and I have gaind like crazy (with: LENGTHMASTER 3 and a broomstick).

 

[DLD]

I'll hit the ground running again next Monday.
This week is all about quality sleep, hydration, clean diet, and abstaining from sex and masturbation as much as possible.
Only once a day max for sex/masturbation
And if I can handle it possibly every 48 hours

Excellent to hear

 

[Tommy Gun]

Had no idea about this. Are you sure this is validated?
I have been stretching with every muscle fibre in my entire body (as hard as I can) during my entire length increase journey, and I have gaind like crazy (with: LENGTHMASTER 3 and a broomstick).

Yes there are many users in R3dd1t doing this new approach and are gaining.
I don't doubt you gain like crazy with the LM.
I've done many routines with it and gained as well.

This is a less is more approach and I would say it's for those that don't want such a time consuming routine/hobby

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

Yes there are many users in R3dd1t doing this new approach and are gaining.
I don't doubt you gain like crazy with the LM.
I've done many routines with it and gained as well.

This is a less is more approach and I would say it's for those that don't want such a time consuming routine/hobby

Interesting.

 

[DLD]

All they do is talk shit about MOS