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So I was reading through some of Supras ROP theory and other things around this site about electromagnetic differences in dissimilar metals, and I had an idea.

The ROP is currently made out of copper and zinc which has a certain voltage potential. This according to the galvanic series chart, would not have the greatest potential for generating current.

"Metals can be arranged in a galvanic series representing the potential they develop in a given electrolyte against a standard reference electrode. The relative position of two metals on such a series gives a good indication of which metal is more likely to corrode more quickly. However, other factors such as water aeration and flow rate can influence the process markedly."


Electrode potential chart:

Element Electrode Potential
(Volts)
Lithium -3.04
Rubidium -2.92
Potassium -2.92
Calcium -2.87
Barium -2.80
Sodium -2.71
Magnesium -2.37
Beryllium -1.85
Aluminum -1.67
Manganese -1.19
Zinc -0.76
Chromium -0.74
Tungsten -0.58
Iron -0.44
Cadmium -0.40
Cobalt -0.28
Nickel -0.24
Tin -0.14
Lead -0.13
Hydrogen +0.00
Antimony +0.10
Copper +0.34
Iodine +0.54
Silver +0.80
Mercury +0.85
Bromine +1.07
Platinum +1.20
Chlorine +1.36
Gold +1.50
Fluorine +2.87

This chart tells me that copper would be better suited with aluminum for electrode potential. Even better would be gold and aluminum because the potential difference is so great.

Is this thinking correct?
 
We're not scientists... at least I'm not. But I am about to build a ROP as soon as I get some of the parts in the mail. I think this is an interesting idea. There's definitely more than one way to build a ROP and I'm sure there are guys out there who need more or less electric flow to feel the effects of the ROP. If you read what Supra originally said, he talked about the Bloke Ring (however it's spelled) feeling uncomfortable because there was too much voltage. But like anything, we have to factor in personal preference. Some men may be completely neurotic in their genitals so they may need even more voltage.

Also, the ROP uses the human body as a conductor so the potential conductivity of a person can be a factor as well.... I don't know of another way to explain that.
 
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Tahir Aqbar;516068 said:
We're not scientists... at least I'm not. But I am about to build a ROP as soon as I get some of the parts in the mail. I think this is an interesting idea. There's definitely more than one way to build a ROP and I'm sure there are guys out there who need more or less electric flow to feel the effects of the ROP. If you read what Supra originally said, he talked about the Bloke Ring (however it's spelled) feeling uncomfortable because there was too much voltage. But like anything, we have to factor in personal preference. Some men may be completely neurotic in their genitals so they may need even more voltage.

Interesting about the high voltage.. I wonder what the optimal voltage/current potential would be for this to work well? We need some scientists to step up to the plate!
Tahir, are you planning on using the tubes to attach the parts? I was pondering something like those trek mountain climbing clips, but one which opened to the outside. Although there may be pinch potential OUCH!
 
lofnrg;516069 said:
Interesting about the high voltage.. I wonder what the optimal voltage/current potential would be for this to work well? We need some scientists to step up to the plate!
Tahir, are you planning on using the tubes to attach the parts? I was pondering something like those trek mountain climbing clips, but one which opened to the outside. Although there may be pinch potential OUCH!

Yes, I am planning on using latex tubing. I just have to find a lowes...

Also, I just pulled this off some site that is selling ROP's. I don't know who runs this website... if it is Supra or someone else just ripping him off?

"Zinc is at -0,763 Volt, copper at +0,521 Volt. The difference between this two values is the theoretical voltage of this galvanic element using this two metals (1,284 Volt); in the case of the Ball Zinger, the values are lower, because the skin moisture is a poor acid compared to a real acid. Our Ring produces 1.25 volts of measurable voltage. You can actually measure it with a multimeter while wearing it!!

You must ONLY use the highest grade ZINC and COPPenis EnlargementR available. DO NOT use any other metals, such as silver, nickel or even plated materials! The reason is ONLY ZINC is proven to raise TESTOSTERONE in males, the COPPenis EnlargementR also provides male benefits that work in conjunction with the ZINC. Stay away from anyone trying to sell any other metals. Don't take our word for it.. Copper and Zinc are the two main ingredients for male enhancment products worldwide, like Enzyte."

- http://www.megabiz.net/what-is-the-rop.html
 
My "2 cents"!

It's not so much about the voltage. Sure you can raise it with saline solution inside the tubing etc., but the key thing is the materials, zinc and copper. These are both proven to effect well in the human body. Aluminium? No thanks. And gold! You'd have to lay a huge amount of money to get a nice full gold rod, not just plated. And even then it most likely wouldn't be as effective as the zinc and copper version.

I made mine out of high grade zinc (was a bit difficult to obtain) and hollow copper, the food grade stuff, very high as well.
I used silicone tubing. It's clear, so in a way it gets messy pretty fast as the reaction occurs. (Copper will get greenish and zinc will loose some shine.)
But anyway, latex or silicone, keep those metals clean and shining! If there's corrosion the voltage will go down, as far as I know.

So, as noted before me, stick to the zinc and copper, get high grade. And wear the damn thing! I must say I haven't worn mine for a month or so, even though it's beneficial. I should make adjustments etc., cut new tubing and so on.
What I would like to do, is to drill the rods and make it more like a adjustable ROP. Maybe one day.

And by the way, zinc and copper go hand-in-hand! Too much zinc will lower copper in your body. The supplement I take now actually has zinc and copper in it.
OK, that's all for now from me, keep on growing!
 
Hey, arkailija, where did you get the zinc? I just found out the zinc rod I ordered has an iron rod drilled through it so it'll degrade a lot faster.
 
Tahir Aqbar;516135 said:
Hey, arkailija, where did you get the zinc? I just found out the zinc rod I ordered has an iron rod drilled through it so it'll degrade a lot faster.

From a Finnish supplier. Depends where you live, there should be metal shops that sell metal piping, rods etc., might take a while to find one, but definately go for pure zinc only. You can't get 100% as zinc in 100% is flammable, but 99.x will do nicely.
I'm sure they'll ship to abroad as well, send me a PM if you want the exact information. But I bet there's some metal supplier around where you live, ask them.
 
Yeah. The website I got it from claimed 99.x but then I did some reading on people who had ordered from that site and it turns out they're full of shit. Whatever. I already ordered another ROP from a legit supplier and it hardly cost anymore. I'll just make another ROP for shits and giggles just to see if I can build one.
 
Supra will be here with me in Florida this Thursday and we plan to go over the ROP for any improvements and more information on it's potentials. I will keep this information up to date as it happens. I am looking forward to picking the mind of Supra!
 
doublelongdaddy;516400 said:
Supra will be here with me in Florida this Thursday and we plan to go over the ROP for any improvements and more information on it's potentials. I will keep this information up to date as it happens. I am looking forward to picking the mind of Supra!

Thanks DLD. Plus having a dedicated page on MOS for buying ROP's designed by Supra would be amazing... if that's what ya'll are planning on doing, which would be a money maker.
 
We need ROPs to be built big enough to wear around our heads, like hats, so the voltage will allow us to utilize 100% of our brainpower. Mankind will evolve to the next stage of lifeforms and our children will be 15 feet tall, with the strength to lift 1,000 pounds over their heads!
 
tahir aqbar;516428 said:
we need rops to be built big enough to wear around our heads, like hats, so the voltage will allow us to utilize 100% of our brainpower. Mankind will evolve to the next stage of lifeforms and our children will be 15 feet tall, with the strength to lift 1,000 pounds over their heads!

lmfao!!!!!!!!!!
 
Tahir Aqbar;516428 said:
We need ROPs to be built big enough to wear around our heads, like hats, so the voltage will allow us to utilize 100% of our brainpower. Mankind will evolve to the next stage of lifeforms and our children will be 15 feet tall, with the strength to lift 1,000 pounds over their heads!

lol
 
lofnrg;516066 said:
So I was reading through some of Supras ROP theory and other things around this site about electromagnetic differences in dissimilar metals, and I had an idea.

The ROP is currently made out of copper and zinc which has a certain voltage potential. This according to the galvanic series chart, would not have the greatest potential for generating current.

"Metals can be arranged in a galvanic series representing the potential they develop in a given electrolyte against a standard reference electrode. The relative position of two metals on such a series gives a good indication of which metal is more likely to corrode more quickly. However, other factors such as water aeration and flow rate can influence the process markedly."


Electrode potential chart:

Element Electrode Potential
(Volts)
Lithium -3.04
Rubidium -2.92
Potassium -2.92
Calcium -2.87
Barium -2.80
Sodium -2.71
Magnesium -2.37
Beryllium -1.85
Aluminum -1.67
Manganese -1.19
Zinc -0.76
Chromium -0.74
Tungsten -0.58
Iron -0.44
Cadmium -0.40
Cobalt -0.28
Nickel -0.24
Tin -0.14
Lead -0.13
Hydrogen +0.00
Antimony +0.10
Copper +0.34
Iodine +0.54
Silver +0.80
Mercury +0.85
Bromine +1.07
Platinum +1.20
Chlorine +1.36
Gold +1.50
Fluorine +2.87

This chart tells me that copper would be better suited with aluminum for electrode potential. Even better would be gold and aluminum because the potential difference is so great.

Is this thinking correct?

I promise you I would make them out of gold if I could! I just cant afford that much bling:(
Thugs life:)
 
So, gold with copper? would gold actually work better than zinc? or what would be the most powerful combinations, not looking at costs?
 
walkingmoon;516592 said:
So, gold with copper? would gold actually work better than zinc? or what would be the most powerful combinations, not looking at costs?

Gold and Silver are much better conductors than any other metal. We can make different ROP's that include the use of other precious and base metals to create different concentrations of electrical flow and possible benefits that many may have not understood as of yet. I am looking forward to working with SUpra to create a better, more powerful ROP.
 
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