Need advice. Ms. Body vs. Ms. Personality

Hey Guys,

I need some advice in the female department. I'm trying to decide what direction to take between two different females. Both have traits which cancel the other one out and I'm trying my best not to emotionally hurt the one who's seriously into me. It basically breaks down like this, (sorry if it's a little long, added some bold to help highlight key points):

Ms. Body: Pros: Best natural body I've ever been with and one of the better bodies, (in terms of shear attractiveness to me), that I've ever seen. Her pussy will over power any man's PC muscles and put your marathon kegal workouts to shame. Only word I have for it is nirvana. lol. She's also very happy go lucky, no usual female bs, and not looking for some crazy commitment from me. She goes with the flow
Cons: Very flakey. Bad with money and commitments. Flighty to the point where it can be disrespectfull. Doesn't really have my back like I would like her to have. Puts people that she has history with, but have done her very wrong multiple times in the past, in front of me. Selfish more times than I would like her to be. Kind of lazy. Unresolved issues from past guys that are inflicted upon me more times than I would like. Bipolar tendencies. And owes me a decent amount of money and has been shady about keeping her promise to pay it back for quite some time.
Oh almost forgot a key part...doesn't care for sex that much at all anymore. I think it's a combo of her age, her busy schedule, her past with her ex, (relationship was only about sex for over a decade and now is going 180 the opposite way bc of how it made her feel), and her being on birth control to help regulate her, (definatly has gone down with this). When I do get it every couple of months she likes it to be somewhat quick, only allows one round, refuses foreplay and basically doesn't allow me to do anything other than hit from behind.

Ms. Personality: Pros: Wife material. Pretty face. As a person, probably one of the best people I've ever met. Very caring, honest, giving, hardworking, intelligant, and genuine. She'd give you the shirt off her back if she could, so much so that it gets her in trouble sometimes. Nympho and likes and encourages all my techniques and is very giving in return. Would let me do just about anything and go as many rounds as I'm able to.
Cons: Good body, but not really my type, only somewhat attracted to it. Not all the time but most of the time big on the typical female bs of: mind reading, making mountains out of mole hills, and jealousy,(I never had this before and absolutley hate it). Needs a lot of reassurance etc. Is trying to break off another relationship and is wanting a solid marital commitment from me, (even though we wouldn't act upon it for another 5 years or so).
And the big one: her pussy is horrible, (obviously I could never tell her this) but sex is a big deal to both of us and many times I can't orgasm and sometimes I can't even perform.

I don't want to mislead or hurt Ms. Personality more than I already have. I'm just not sure what to do. If I could get over being only somewhat attracted to her body and if her and I felt that sex isn't that big of a deal I would be estatic. Or if Ms. Body didn't have such a banging body and one of the top ten pussies on the planet earth, that would also be a no brainer. Not sure what to do. Any suggestions?

Beauty and a beautiful body are only skin deep and as attracted you may be to the wrong choice it is obvious the right choice is Ms. Personality.

this sounds like you should keep this situation going for a while contemplating where to find a third option

doublelongdaddy;439027 said:

Beauty and a beautiful body are only skin deep and as attracted you may be to the wrong choice it is obvious the right choice is Ms. Personality.

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a girl whose pussy is so loose that you can't even come is definitely not the best choice imo.
If this was out of the picture I'd agree and go with Ms. Personality though.

Thanks for the replies guys.

DLD, I was thinking the same thing you were. One of the problems is that I've unfortunatley hurt Ms. Personalitie's feelings a couple of times bc I just can't orgasm or sometimes can't even get it up as long as I need to even with the help of Viagra, and a cock ring. I've even used the double penetration cockring.....which is basically a cockring and a dildo,( even though this is infrequent bc she isn't that into toys bc she says she only wants to feel me,) all this and still unfortunatley no where in the stratosphere as Ms. Body.
I'd say I probably don't orgasm around close to 40 - 50%. When I do it takes me close to an hour of all out effort. Kind of like the Tabata protocol in the fitness realm only with sex. I probably can't get a functional erection at all around 15% of the time.

If Ms. Personality didn't want to get married and didn't place such a high value on sex, or my performance problems didn't crush her female ego, I might be able to cope with things better. She's far from bad looking. On the contrary she's very good looking and always is getting hit on. Also, I'm far from packing myself, average at best,(6 NBPenis EnlargementL x 5), my extreme dysfunctional job seems to put a huge road block into my consistency with Penis Enlargement but I'm still trying. I thought that bc of my size maybe we just don't fit right, even though she thoroughly enjoys me. I thought I might need to get bigger, but when I used the dildo inconjuction with me that was approximatley my size and things still were loose, it definatly got me thinking.

I would love to mention kegals and I know there's surgery available for her. I just can't see her receiving that well at all. I think it might make her fall to pieces. Especially bc the guy that she wants to get rid of bc of me couldn't get enough of her and she no longer has relations with him bc of her feelings towards me.

I am open to a third option as I know that there are many buses to board. I know though however if I don't step it up with Ms. Personality, (who's currently really upset @ me bc she asked if I would marry her in the future and I said I don't know yet after over 3 years), I will probably loose the best person I'll ever meet in my life, (doubt we could remain friends), without exageration. She is a truely rare breed in regards to how good of a person she is.

Well you don't have to choose now, I think you will know when it's right, there will be no doubt. A good woman is hard to find so when you do, hold on for dear life. You just need to simply wait until the truth comes to the surface. It sounds like you are making a decision between a Lamborghini with a bad engine and a Range Rover with all the options. Go for the tried and true Rover!

How old are you, how come you wanna settle between these two girls? If I were you I'd stick with both =)

I don't think sex is going to be what determines any part of your relationship down the road. That is definitely important- don't get me wrong, but it is not what the foundation of a relationship is based on. Maybe neither of the girls is right for you. Are these the only 2 girls available to you? I think some of the advice is really good in this thread and what DLD said is true, that you do not need to choose right now. We are young, use this as a learning experience. If you feel like you hurt her, it is a part of life, and I don't think you may have damaged her for life. You have to be happy, whoever you WANT to be with is up to YOU and if make a decision because you don't want to hurt someone else it will be YOU who has to live with the regret. Honestly though it doesn't sound like either of these girls are the one. Just remain friends, if they like "with benefits"- or push on- you are not committed to either one....live your life for you.

Bapify, I'm soon to be 32, both Ms. Body and Ms. Personality are 38, and both to be 39 within the next four months. So the biological clock is kind of ticking for them, although Ms. Body is supposidly done with kids. To be completley honest I would love to stick with both and actually have been for several years now, and actuallly wouldn't mind continuing things exactly how they are as I'm finding out more about these women and if I would want something serious moving on with either one or none.

Because my job literally jacks up my life my pool of women is limited to the job. Unfortunatley Ms. Personality and I both work at the same place so probably not the best idea for me to try something at the current time; although she's a really nice person she won't hesitate to thrown down with another chick if she feels that they're messing with her dude. As for the job, long story short just think of being on a reality tv show as a job but not getting paid all that well and almost living there and working many hours for free,....on a positive note I'll be out of that hell hole in two months.

Ms. Personality wants to get the show on the road since it's been several years and although I feel like a total bastard admiting this, she's married but her feelings have shifted towards me and wants to be fair to her current partner and not string him along if her feelings aren't there. I do see her quite a bit at work to. Which is how I basically sucumbed to her advances. Even though I held off for quite some time bc I knew her situation and was trying to be respectfull as I don't really feel like having karma coming back to bight me in the future, I eventually caved being that she didn't play fair, and we actually started off as really good friends, which means I'll loose double if things don't work out.

As for now I took a couple days off of work and Ms. Personality and I usually talk on the daily, on the phone outside of work. I think the reason I'm kind of bugged out is that we haven't exchanged texts or calls for three days now, which has never happened in 4 years, we'll see what goes down tomorrow.

If I had it my way I would just continue the way it is with both, but with Ms. Personality's situation I know she can't and honestly I don't feel right doing that anymore and regret caving in and listening to the wrong head. But you guy's advice has kind of gave me a mini epiphany and I really appreciate it. I've been to focused on them and not myself. One of my biggest pet peeves is being selfish. I just don't want to be that guy. I know good women, hell good people for that matter, are extemely hard to find but I don't want to live my life in regret bc it's on someone else's terms.

So we'll see what happens. I would love to have Ms. Personality in my life in some capacity, as that is the type of person people would pay to have in their corner, but I guess only time will tell.

Yeah, keep both but learn the player rules

Introduce them to one another; this could go 3 primary ways for you:
1. 3-way heaven and you get the both of both worlds all at once.
2. they become a loving lesbian couple, leave you alone (mostly) yet have you to thank for their happiness leaving you with many open options.
3. they hate you forever, both leave, yet you are, once again, free to be who you wanna be.

Y'can't steal second base with yer foot planted firmly on first.

MAXAMEYES;439241 said:

Y'can't steal second base with yer foot planted firmly on first.

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Unless you got some really long legs!

If she is married....you need to admit to letting her go is the best step- you know why? When she leaves him and gets with you...what is going to happen when she is bored with you a few years down the line? A cheater is a cheater...I learned the hard way. I stole a hotty from a guy who I thought was better than me, and she was crazy about me. Did she cheat on me? I found lots of emails to other guys a few months after we were dating. Idk if she ever fucked anyone but I sure got that feeling! Idk what your story is but I learned the hard way and it taught me a valuable lesson. If she is going to cheat on her Husband now with you it means she will do it to you even if you cannot believe it could ever be true.

Turnover;439336 said:

When she leaves him and gets with you...what is going to happen when she is bored with you a few years down the line? A cheater is a cheater...

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That is the God honest truth!

Maxameyes,

I so wish I could do what you suggested. They unfortunatley know each other. I have a lot of loud mouth gosspi around the water cooler type females where I work and Ms. Personality can't stand Ms. Body,(who worked at my job a long time ago for a brief stint). Although if I did want an exit plan I could just tell Ms. Personality I've been getting it on with Ms. Body ever once and a while. If that happened to Ms. Body she'd just be done with me. Ms. Personality, she'd probably burn down my place or end up getting herself 302'd. She has a screw loose with things like that.

Turnover,

You make a very good point. I'll give you guys the best readers digest version I can behind her story and I'm sure it probably still points to future cheating, (sometimes hard for me to tell since I'm directly involved). She had a fairly strict religious and controlling parents growing up making things difficult for her, (not in a cult way or anything), even as she became a young adult leading to her to "rush" into things to get married with her then current boyfriend @ a fairly young age not experiencing this and that, not sure if she was really ready, blah blah blah, basically wanting more so to get away from the rents then really truly get hitched.

There was also another screw up on her part prior to me quite a ways back. According to her she says that she basically realized she wasn't feeling it anymore with her husband and she wanted to at least separate and see where things would go. She said she was so busy worrying about things with her parents that she didn't realize that her and her husband were more like friends with benefits and always have been; once she got over things a little better with her parents she realized the passion for her husband really was never there to begin with.

Her husband wasn't for the separation bit @ all. He would hold it down money wise but didn't really pay her the attention she wanted. This went on for about 5 years until she made mistake number one. The guy was the biggest douche bag on the planet, it took her a while for this to sink in and her to get right. Her and her husband got straight again but the issues remained and were never really discussed or worked on. Then 10 years later and my dumb ass gets lured in.

I honestly would love to just wait and play things out and juggle stuff and not make any decisions until I absoloutley have to. But her being married and all bugs the hell out of me. Just bad karma. So that issue the fact that she wants to jump from something serious into something serious,.......and oh yeah and that loose punani thing lol.

So what do you guys think? Does she have cheater written all over her? I do know that the wife material thing freaks me out bc if things get to rough for to long she might have a tendency to do something behind my back if I do anything that might seem that I'm "forcing" her to do. Although as a caveat there are sexual things she's done with me that she's never done with her husband. Not sure if this means anything or not.

okay let me put my word in.

if it was me id picc ms. body, but this is the thing... im an idiot lol
but its hard for me to say, ms. personality sounds like she'll make you happy.
but on the other hand sex is real important going without it can lead to problems.

but heres the thing(im gonna be honest with you)
i wouldnt pic ms. body if i were you bc you sound kinda like a pushover(once again my bad... but im just being honest)
now i could tell you to change yourself but you shouldnt. why change yourself for another bitch?
just go with the one that you know for sure will make you happy, thats what its all about cuz.
bc why be in a relationship witha bitch jus for her body(thats tha type of shit we use to pull bacc in school) where past that now its time for us to be happy.

GOOD LUCC CUHZ.

Just reading all of what has been posted, I would not want to commit to either one - look at the negatives with each and the killer for me is the age gap. Women generally are more mature - emotionally and intelligently then men, you need someone younger or the same age as you rather than so much older with all the baggage attached, esp the commitment to get married in 5 years time!

shavenasian;439789 said:

Just reading all of what has been posted, I would not want to commit to either one - look at the negatives with each and the killer for me is the age gap. Women generally are more mature - emotionally and intelligently then men, you need someone younger or the same age as you rather than so much older with all the baggage attached, esp the commitment to get married in 5 years time!

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5 year plan? Well hopefully you wont have to make a decision between more of them!

A body will become more attractive when you fall in love with the personality.