The Worst President In History?

[kausion_420]

Ya Id be choked if I lost someone in those towers but you dont start attacking muslims because muslim terrorists attacked your country. If there was a way to locate all of Bin laden's people then thats a totally different story. Although with the technology and satellites US has, they should be able to find anyone at anytime. Which is why I am not sure how they are always a step behind.

 

[Super]

Actually there are more conspiracies about how they let pearl harbour attack in order to stomp back hard to become the Super power it is today.

Surely their equipment at the time could spot airbone objects from a distance as the did have the technology back then. Once again, if you see a bunch of planes heading your way do you notify someone or just keep quiet.

The problem with the US gov't is there are so many conspiracies and when ever someone investigates and is on to something somehow that case gets closed.

I cant belive you honestly beief that I really cant. That is just insanity, Our president is gonna let all those civiliians and military die!!! What are you talking about!! They took out the entire pacific fleet!!!

I am not turing this thread into a name calling thread. But man! How can you belief that!! I bet you belive that 9/11 was a conspiracie as well like many do!!! That is just not true!!! You think the Military Gerenals would let all there troops die? You think non of that would ever leek. You cant just balme everything on conspiracies man. Sure there are some, everywere in this world, even were you work.

 

[Super]

Ya Id be choked if I lost someone in those towers but you dont start attacking muslims because muslim terrorists attacked your country. If there was a way to locate all of Bin laden's people then thats a totally different story. Although with the technology and satellites US has, they should be able to find anyone at anytime. Which is why I am not sure how they are always a step behind.

Bro we attacked the Al Queda and Taliban!!! They were responsable for 9/11
WE cant track people in caves under the ground man, it does not work that way!

Let me ask you, are you in the marine recon? No. I was I know how it works, satalites are only good for viewable tagets, thats it Dont you watch the news man, we did locate tons of Bin ladens people!! What do you think we were fighting in Afgan? School Gilrs and Nuns out of mosks? Come on man, I know you know better than this.

We did not just attack innocnet muslems, we attacked terrorists that were in connection with 9/11 man, you think we just ran over inccocent children!! We were attacking the terrorists man!

 

[kausion_420]

Whether or not it is true we will never know. There is conspiracy theories linking to it however.

In the end whether you are a general or not you are still a puppet for the gov't. If a few die to benefit the nation then it is in good cause. If it was the case, lives were lost and in return the US hit back hard and became the strongest nation in the world. Whether or not that is a benefit to the nation is ones own opinion.

 

[Super]

Ok I ask you this, Have you ever talked to anyone in Iraq or afgan? Have you ever exchanded emails? Have you ever talked to them on the phone? Are vidoe tapes hours long of the war sent to your house to see what really goes on?!!!! NO!!!!!

All you see is what the media wants to show you. Thats it!! You have never seen the children hugging the Marines, you have never seen the familyis bring the marines into there home and cook them meals. You have never seen the people flock the streets in rejoice casue we are there!

All you ever see is the bad bad bad! All you see is beheaddings, suicide bombers and anti war protesters. That it, You do not know the Truth, I do. I have seen it and heard it on the phone, and seen it with my eyes.

No one here knows the truth, only the people that have been there, the media and the military men and women, bring me one perosn in the sevice that says, "fuck this war and bush"

It is insulting to think that this is what americans think of Me and the Military. I am going to Iraq in January, and i know what will happen

 

[kausion_420]

Bro we attacked the Al Queda and Taliban!!! They were responsable for 9/11
WE cant track people in caves under the ground man, it does not work that way!

Let me ask you, are you in the marine recon? No. I was I know how it works, satalites are only good for viewable tagets, thats it Dont you watch the news man, we did locate tons of Bin ladens people!! What do you think we were fighting in Afgan? School Gilrs and Nuns out of mosks? Come on man, I know you know better than this.

We did not just attack innocnet muslems, we attacked terrorists that were in connection with 9/11 man, you think we just ran over inccocent children!! We were attacking the terrorists man!

Yes I understand what you are saying. Maybe I am typing too fast and leaving out obvious points. Yes I know why you were in Afgan I am just seeing this from a non-American point of view.

As for the news, you have to learn most of that by doing searches picking up bits and pieces from different sources to draw your own conclusions. All news is, is propaganda spreaded by the government of the country the news is broadcasted for.

 

[kausion_420]

Ok I ask you this, Have you ever talked to anyone in Iraq or afgan? Have you ever exchanded emails? Have you ever talked to them on the phone? Are vidoe tapes hours long of the war sent to your house to see what really goes on?!!!! NO!!!!!

All you see is what the media wants to show you. Thats it!! You have never seen the children hugging the Marines, you have never seen the familyis bring the marines into there home and cook them meals. You have never seen the people flock the streets in rejoice casue we are there!

All you ever see is the bad bad bad! All you see is beheaddings, suicide bombers and anti war protesters. That it, You do not know the Truth, I do. I have seen it and heard it on the phone, and seen it with my eyes.

Yes I have friends in Afgan and Iraq. I have a friend who moved from Afgan here a few years ago who told me the horrible stories. Hearing it from his point of view lets me see things how I see them.

 

[kausion_420]

I have friends who worked on the Oil rigs in Iraq prior to 9/11. Who told me one day they were at work and then the american army comes and secures their area and says they can't work. This was prior to 9/11 when they had no reason to do such things..

 

[Super]

Yes I have friends in Afgan and Iraq. I have a friend who moved from Afgan here a few years ago who told me the horrible stories. Hearing it from his point of view lets me see things how I see them.

Were are you from? What horrible stories? The ones were we killed hte terrorists? People say we attacked mosks, once they are used for combat they are not protected anymore yet people still say "You bombed Churches!!" WE did casue they were killing Marines!

 

[kausion_420]

Were are you from? What horrible stories? The ones were we killed hte terrorists? People say we attacked mosks, once they are used for combat they are not protected anymore yet people still say "You bombed Churches!!" WE did casue they were killing Marines!

Im in canada. The stories I hear from my Afgan friend are anti-US stories. As well as your typical fighting in Afgan day to day stories.

 

[Super]

I have friends who worked on the Oil rigs in Iraq prior to 9/11. Who told me one day they were at work and then the american army comes and secures their area and says they can't work. This was prior to 9/11 when they had no reason to do such things..

Man come on, if the military needed it then they needed it!! They are compinsated, I know about that stuff the military does that foreign and domestic. Its not the end of the world, you cant use that as a exchuse on why we should not be there

 

[Super]

Im in canada. The stories I hear from my Afgan friend are anti-US stories. As well as your typical fighting in Afgan day to day stories.

Excuse me IM not mad, But scratching my head!! But "who is gonna protect you if China says I like canada? THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! Thats IT! Have some respect for america man, America is the only people that keep cananda from getting taken over. If we just said, ok we have nothing to do with canada and dont care what happens, you guys would not stand a chance against a superpower

And yea all you heard was anti-american shit!! Bro your not even an american and there is no canadians in Iraq so you really dont have any valid points man

 

[kausion_420]

Man come on, if the military needed it then they needed it!! They are compinsated, I know about that stuff the military does that foreign and domestic. Its not the end of the world, you cant use that as a exchuse on why we should not be there

I see where you are coming from being a marine who lost a friend on 9/11. I am not arguing with you just I have my views as do you.

All Im saying is if your at work and marines come and secure your rig and tell you you can't work when there is no reason for them to do so doesn't make sense to me. For another country to come to the US and do that very thing im sure our news stations would never hear the end of it.

 

[kausion_420]

Excuse me IM not mad, But scratching my head!! But "who is gonna protect you if China says I like canada? THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! Thats IT! Have some respect for america man, America is the only people that keep cananda from getting taken over

Not all countries think like americans though don't forget. Remember that American's started in Europe and when they were getting over populated they came to America and started there. Not to mention breaking every law that they will put you in jail for in order to establish america.

Yes it is needed to imperialize after awhile but majority of it is being done by Americans just to spread their ideologies.

 

[Super]

I see where you are coming from being a marine who lost a friend on 9/11. I am not arguing with you just I have my views as do you.

All Im saying is if your at work and marines come and secure your rig and tell you you can't work when there is no reason for them to do so doesn't make sense to me. For another country to come to the US and do that very thing im sure our news stations would never hear the end of it.

Bro they were re embursed and they were compinsated, and there was a reason, the Marine corps does not do things without having a reason, reasons cost a lot of money time and lifes, there was a reason.

 

[kausion_420]

Excuse me IM not mad, But scratching my head!! But "who is gonna protect you if China says I like canada? THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! Thats IT! Have some respect for america man, America is the only people that keep cananda from getting taken over. If we just said, ok we have nothing to do with canada and dont care what happens, you guys would not stand a chance against a superpower

And yea all you heard was anti-american shit!! Bro your not even an american and there is no canadians in Iraq so you really dont have any valid points man

I believe my points would still be the same if I lived in america. I have family and a lot of friends there who dont fully agree with what is going on. It all depends which side you are looking at it from.

 

[kausion_420]

Bro they were re embursed and they were compinsated, and there was a reason, the Marine corps does not do things without having a reason, reasons cost a lot of money time and lifes, there was a reason.

Well then I guess my friends forgot to tell me the reason their rig was secured and they were asked to leave. This friend is now back in Canada by the way after this happened.

 

[Super]

Well then I guess my friends forgot to tell me the reason their rig was secured and they were asked to leave. This friend is now back in Canada by the way after this happened.

Let me ask you this, who would defend canada if china invaded you?

 

[kausion_420]

Let me ask you this, who would defend canada if china invaded you?

When there is any kind of reason for this to happen i will be able to give you an answer.

In history it was the americans going around invading then using those people as slaves. In fact the Chinese were also used as slaves.

Maybe I see things different beacause of this. There are two sides to america, white america and non-white america. You have those who support white america and are scared of non-white america and wish that they would go back to where they came from. In all reality they did not come to america on their own.. they were forced and inslaved, ridiculed and raped. George bush supports this side of america and gives two shits about the poor or anything other than his side of the fence.

Maybe I am bitter because of this, maybe I have my own views about the US from living there i dont know. I can tell you that what you see on the news and how the government treats all people is much different in Canada.

 

[Super]

When there is any kind of reason for this to happen i will be able to give you an answer.

In history it was the americans going around invading then using those people as slaves. In fact the Chinese were also used as slaves.

Maybe I see things different beacause of this. There are two sides to america, white america and non-white america. You have those who support white america and are scared of non-white america and wish that they would go back to where they came from. In all reality they did not come to america on their own.. they were forced and inslaved, ridiculed and raped. George bush supports this side of america and gives two shits about the poor or anything other than his side of the fence.

Maybe I am bitter because of this, maybe I have my own views about the US from living there i dont know. I can tell you that what you see on the news and how the government treats all people is much different in Canada.

The point is man and you know the answer My self and the US Marines would be protecting you guys and dying for you guys if you were invaded.