Growing4Squirting
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what i inhale contains 6mg / ml of nicotine,glycol< 40% and glycerin <60%.
not an experienced smoker myself but these seem pretty high to me.
I remember once before i vaped briefly for few days, stopped for 15-20 days, i went for an outdoor run and only after 5km of running i tasted the vaping aroma coming out while breathing in and out.
that crap stays deep in the lungs
That's way too high. Glycerin should be less than 30% and glycol at 5%, and 65% natural fluids that generate less vapors, but delivers what you need for a quick fix. Those who are veteran vapers probably scoff and snicker at this very moment.
Growing4Squirting
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I will either cut completely or switch to a lower concentration then, that should do it
So this is the potency that a lox inhibitor must have to increase gains that much?Holy fuck.
I appreciate your words and all the information you put in my thread, I will probably revisit it from time to time, now everything is clearer for me,now i can make a better decision about my Future in PE,I always research in more depth as far as what is useful to me
From what I researched on other forums, some people can only gain anything from ligament using a much higher weight than I used, not to mention that I was no longer a newbie
Can you share what they used to enter this stage of second puberty? What would it do for me considering that I might suffer from some venous leakage?
Dude listen to me, smoking will not help you on this. Smoking will worsen or kill some of your efforts. That's because the anti-lox enzyme inhibition you are looking for in all these research areas are from scientific drugs, and it is just the enzyme. Ciggarettes, smoking, or whatever you think will help, don't have the anti-lox enzyme the way the research papers mean and have many other bad things.
Since you like reading scientific papers, read this one: The influence of smoking exposure and cessation on penile hemodynamics and corporal tissue in a rat model - PMC
No matter how you see it, smoking won't bring you the results you are thinking theoretically.
I am a smoker too, I love smoking, but that's the truth.
Also collagen is needed to build the building blocks in a way that it "feeds them" after microtrauma. What the research paper is talking about is nulling the anti-lox completely which cant happen with cigarettes.
Smoking kills erections. Smoking kills blood flow. Smoking won't allow you to have proper erection or maintain it.
Since you like reading scientific papers, read this one: The influence of smoking exposure and cessation on penile hemodynamics and corporal tissue in a rat model - PMC
No matter how you see it, smoking won't bring you the results you are thinking theoretically.
I am a smoker too, I love smoking, but that's the truth.
Also collagen is needed to build the building blocks in a way that it "feeds them" after microtrauma. What the research paper is talking about is nulling the anti-lox completely which cant happen with cigarettes.
Smoking kills erections. Smoking kills blood flow. Smoking won't allow you to have proper erection or maintain it.
I Will smoke my last pack today,buy pentox and tadalafil and going to a caloric surplus since my starvation probably is killing my hormones,Maybe venous leak is an exaggeration on my part since I have several reasons for not being able to get hard easily, when I was taking tadalafil (5mg) I could stay rock hard for as long as I wanted
You sure you don't want to be a PE Researcher to help out @DLD on this one? You're practically DLD's science guy now. Very proud of you brother. You're reinforcing all your gains and findings with the modern day publications. I'm more surprised that you actually understood the tiny nuances spelled out in the article. That must be hard reading it in English.
Definitely. This is public information to share with the brothers. Both are in their mid 20s and mid 30s. They followed the same SRT protocols at the first 4 months, with both manual expressive stretches, warmups, and pumping. In this brotherhood, we help each other by evaluating their logs. Both brothers have private logs, and we scanned over the logs, their routines, and assisted them with modified routines as they grow. Our brother @huge-girth speciality is in his personal coaching service, while DLD and I are focused on detecting changes in the patterns to offer insights to the routines. Brothers here with their experiences also share their wisdom as well. As we have discussed, each and everyone of us is different in some ways, and we must tailor the routines and exercises according to the needs of each individual.
The brothers that actually went into the secondary puberty phases, not in growth as a whole but in penile/sexual organ growth, were due to constant stress loading on the penis correctly. They didn't rush, but they worked patiently to increase the stress load according to the growth phases. When the penis is tired, they backed off. When we detected growth, we increase the stress load according to the penis's capacity to growth and not more. It's a dancing game.
They also eat healthy and exercise. This is essential. If you cannot maintain a healthy lifestyle, PE is merely an exercise that don't bare any fruit or result.
As for cutting off smoking completely, if you can, that's best for you. If you go cold turkey and stop completely, your body will create a moodswing and craving that causes your hormones to go out of balance all over the place. It's best to find a middle ground to ease out the needs for smoking. Since I'm not a smoker, our brother @kriskros may be the better brother to help you with this. You're blessed to have many brothers here who are willing to offer excellent advices.
Accepting credit from you is a great honor my brother @oldandlively and the one who put me to thoughts via discussions. Truth is that all research I do is because of my strange response to PE workouts. For some reason, what works for everyone it just don't work for me. I have tried (and still trying) to find methods for my PE to increase my gains. So far, only a few things seem to respond to my body and work for me. I can share but always with caution for others.
P.S - Just imagine how hard is for me to read scientific papers.
There are so many unique cases like yours, PE is practically a new field of science. Keep sharing the info. You will help brothers with similar conditions to experiment with. But they must be willing to go beyond the normal means. They have to find their needs, and search for what works. There is no such thing as a miracle pill, shot, routine, or exercise because of so many different real life factors. Not yet anyway. There may be a few miracles soon.
I do not know If I must explain to people why I came to these conclusions, but just in case I will explain why I did what I did.
I remember myself thinking "5x5x3 is 15 mins pumps, 15 mins ssj, So 30 mins a day, finished okay nice". Without me knowing it, I was always in a rush, my expectations were high, and I wanted what everyone wanted. A big penis. Now, The gains never came, my frustration was as high as my depression, I felt doomed. Why me? Why was I born bipolar? Why do I have to take medications that kill my erections? Why me Why you, Why.. And Why.
Then I tried the dangerous zone again. Clamping to the death, doing things outside PE for PE enlargement. Took every pill there is out there (no I am not kidding), Did PRP, PRP + Exosomes (which is great for discoloration I found later), and imagine? No gains. I was really doomed.
PE for girth (the one I want) requires a good erection. One, I have never had for more than 15 years. When I understood this, then, it didn't matter anymore. I really didn't care. I said okay, that's just me. I have to live with it.
Then my mindset changed:: I was no longer in a rush to do PE, and I stopped carrying if I got gains. I just wanted to fix my erection to just have good sex.
So, I started "taking my time". Do the MOSRED 10 mins, do 8 mins bundled literal stretches, doing 5x5x3 focusing on quality and not on how much time I spent, I finished with 10 mins of MOSRED again, and my first session took 2 hours. I started doing this 3 times a week.
Little by little, my penis erection started to kick off, and I was happy but my resilience to pain and gains didnt allow me to have gains. So I decided to do my research.
After taking every supplement you can imagine out there, I concluded to a stack that does what I thought I needed for my body.
1 hour prior to workout, I was taking:
5gr L-Cittruline
1.5gr Nitrosigine
Good supplements, not many results, said I will add more so I added:
100mg Pycnogenol
266mg Gotu Kola
Adding just pycnogenol, DIDNT do the trick, but the combination of pycnogenol + gotu kola, lowered my edema while doing PE without affecting microtraumas or messing with the inflammation needed for growth. It worked, but I didn't get the pump nor the expansion. My non-edema expansion was like 0.30' at its best.
I did my research, came back with 2 new supplements
Epicatechin 300mg, 98% cocoa beans and
Core Nutritionals Peak (VasoDriveAP, PeakATP, CitraPeak)
Now listen to this weird thing:: The non-hard fully blood engorged erect penis I had, got hard with VasoDriveAP even though there wasn't much blood in there.
Epicatechin, inhibits myostatin but we all know myostatin is to muscle and skeletal body but not in penis but, how real is it? Analyzing the results found on research papers it is true, our penile body has the muscles that we can inhibit myostatin to increase follistatin.
This is the reason, I got 0.65' expansion only with SSJ with zero edema. For my self, I found the golden stack. I have expansion with SSJ as I would have with pumping. No shit.
So the solution for me is: Supplements (1 hour prior) → healing (MOSRED) → 5x5x3 (taking my time, relaxing) → healing (MOSRED) → Type I, III Collagen (BUBS Collagen) and good sleep.
For me, Epicatechin, is the real deal. I am taking this supplement: EPICATECHIN (I am not affiliated with the company) and when I am NOT taking it (for experimental purposes), I don't have the expansion I want.
Gotu Kola + Pycnogenol + VasodriveAP do the edema trick.
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Have you tried cocoa powder? It has made my pumping sessions more productive.
I wasn't even using cocoa powder for PE, but rather to make more gains in the gym, I managed to gain 8lb in a month
What i will do is looking at ingredients using your list of harmful and match those to find the best. I really want to quit so I hope this a step away from cigarettes. Thank you to all helping with this issue may God deliver me from this and eventually quit.
Okay inducing myostatin is the real deal. It wasnt in my head.
@oldandlively what do you think?
You're trying to open a can of worms boss. This is merely a new twist on very old research going back as far as 1999. The publication in 2008 give a more enhanced compilation of effetiveness and approaches.
However, fibrosis is a "buzz word" for many different areas. The latest studies with clinical trials is here, but it's more on the endocrine studies over the penile studies, or even smooth muscle tissues:
If you're talking testing on productive organ testing, yes, they've done it on pigs and rats, but not human. Human patients were and still are a bit terrified.
Why are they terrified to go with this method? Desperate measures required for ED, but they have to take a massive sanity pill since myostatin can worsen the situation further as it inhibit cellular regeneration:
The current studies are still inconclusive. This is 2020 to 2023 studies. Those who took a plunge into this arena already reported penile recovery failures. What does that mean? Permanent broken penises. The body created anti-myostatin that initiated anti-inflammatory responses, causing the hormone levels to go out of control. Imagien putting out one fire and ends up with 5 raging infernoes.
Take this method with a massive dose of sanity and a jar of salt if you decide to take it on.
This is getting to be so confusing. I guess the best way out is to simply quit. What is your opinion on nicotine patches?