P shot

I got one a few weeks ago. It was fairly painless, they put numbing cream on first, could feel some pressure when injected into the gland. I was mildly sore for about 2 days. I definitely can tell some extra sensitivity now. Online it says it is for ED, but the nurse practitioner said she thinks its better if you are already functioning down there. She swore by the o shot as well. I will give you a follow up in a few months.
 
@oldandlively I believe you mentioned you had experience in the medical field. Do you know about this? There isn't much online that looks reliable, mainly marketing pieces. I have seen a routine that has 6 spread out monthly, but that would be very expensive. I think this will be one and done for me, but wanted another opinion.
 
To make things clear for the brothers, I have both statistical data for both P-shot, or known as hyaluronic acid dermal filler, and semi-permanent (not permanent) Polymethyl Methacrylate, or known as PMMA. I wouldn't recommend PMMA at all. If I have to put that poison in my penis, I might as well ask for a penile transplant from some guy with a massive penis.

Now, let's refocus on the P-shot, or HA, or whatever they want to call it now. I know a few brothers PM me on top of the post request for info. I'll make it nice and clear for the brothers that may think about it, covering as many aspects as possible.

HA fillers is not a permanent solution. It's just a temporary filler. My wife uses on herself and her friends all the time. What it does is to fill out the shallow layer of your penis, not directly into the corpa cavernosa and spongiosum, or the chambers where the blood is stored during an erection. It makes your penis gain an instant 0.5in (1.27cm) to 0.6in (1.52cm). BUT, that is just temporary. The filler only lasts between 2 weeks (the shortest recorded clinical info) to the 3 months (the longest). This is why there are so many plans involved from a few months to a few years. You come back to get more injections, commonly 2 to 5, from 3mL to 50mL (for very large penis going into 10inx7in).

The clinics will warn you NEVER to pursue PE the moment you get the filler. The filler will be displaced the moment you jelq, pump, or masterbate as you're forcing the filler to exit the dermal layer. Can you massage lightly? Sure you can. Of course, there's a likely chance the filler will still exit the inject location.

How often you do come back for "touch up" injections? For some, a couple of weeks. For most, a month to two months. For a rare few, 3 to 5 months. The funny thing is, the more sex you have, the more the frequent the returners for touch ups.

Will it become permanent? Here's the funny part of it. YES, it can. BUT, there's a caveat. The more expensive plans that goes up into the categories of years (2 to 5 years that is), there are requirements of medical devices application. I talked to a few of the clinics, and guess what the devices are? Pumps and traction devices. Really? Why have expensive plans for injections for a short term appearances and have to perform the implementation of devices as well? Just stick with Length Master for daily length stretches, pumps for girth, and save your the money.

Marketing indicates the gains, but not the gory details behind it. Some like to follow Doc Hink because he performs PE on himself as well. I'll use his info as one of the media to provide the flip side of extreme PE. Some brothers injured themselves on the PE journey from being overzealous with their routines. I'm included in the past, and even now when I didn't pay attention to put safety at the forefront during tiredsome days, or on unique testing days to push my limits. Either be injections (where you can damage your nerves and blood vessels at injection sites), using devices for elongation and expansion, or manual stretches going beyond the penile body to handle, you will induce injuries. It doesn't take much to get injuries. This is why clinical studies place hard limits on cellular stresses:

Stretches: 0.3lb to 2.5lbs exceeding the penile capacity to stretch long term. 1.5lbs to 5lbs for sudden traumas causing micro tears.

Pumping: 3inHg is the base limit for normal healthy erections. 5lbs is the critical limit for normal pumping limit (such as Bathmate), and 10inHg is the upper bound limit for any extremist. Over time, your penis adapts and 5inhg to 10inHg doesn't cut it. This is where the black magic growth going towards 15inHg comes in. However, there are greater chances of injuries at this upper limit. The higher you go, the greater the expansion, and the greater the risk.

Jelqing: it works! The internal pressure through medial expansion is around 3 to 5inHg. Constant jelqing places the penile expansion slightly above the safety limit. It expands slowly and constantly. Long term application of jelqing does proven both expansion of the penis and the elongation of the penile shaft.

Where's the HA falls into the category of PE? It lies in the constant expansion of the dermal layer. Yes, you get the expansion there, but the expansion without the development of additional tissue density will not create a permanent size. If you use both HA and PE routines, yes, you'll get permanent expansion. HA can act as a post-elongation routine. It will not act as post-expansion routine (using penis ring for internal post expansion, micro gap creation, and cellular repairing-duplication).

Hope this short blurb gives you clarity. If you need more, we can go into greater details.
 
Thank you for the information. The one I did was a PRP (Plasma Rich Platelet) injection. They draw your blood, spin it in a centrifuge, and inject your platelets into the corpora cavernosa (two on each side) and one injection at the base of the gland. The NP said to try to be sexually active as soon as possible and also said pumping, ADS's and manuals were fine, but to not go over 10hg on the pump. Apparently this is a similar process women get that is called a vampire facial.
 
Dallas Dango said:
I got one a few weeks ago. It was fairly painless, they put numbing cream on first, could feel some pressure when injected into the gland. I was mildly sore for about 2 days. I definitely can tell some extra sensitivity now. Online it says it is for ED, but the nurse practitioner said she thinks its better if you are already functioning down there. She swore by the o shot as well. I will give you a follow up in a few months.
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Topical ointment of numbing cream is commonly used before any shallow epidermal and dermal injection. I inject plenty of cocktails into my wife when she needs it, from lazy fat burners to fillers for her face. She likes to do girls' nights doing cocktail injections all the time. This is one of my reason why I have to keep up with pharma's formulations and clinical test results to prevent her and her friends from killing themselves with these cocktail combos.

The marketing is promoting to combat ED, not cure ED. Why do they promote such vague terms? Yes, it does combat ED symptom, such as "I can't get an erection". There's no way they can claim that it will cure ED because ED has so many ranges of issues. It will combat ED by creating a more plump and harden penile body for penetration, even though an ED patient can't get an erection. It's like a permanent semi-hard flaccid state. By having HA injected into the dermal layer, the nerves are being pressured and hyperexpanded to the upper surface, creating a higher sensitivity. Of course you're going to feel it. This assist with the stimulation to get a natural erection. This also a marketing ploy to combat ED.

Can HA cure ED? No. Is there a chance it can cure ED? The possibility is not zero. It's about getting the blockages that cause ED under control, promote higher blood flow, and enhance the penis to optimal level. This is where PE comes in. Our motto is "PE is for life". Why? Because PE is infact a life long journey.
 
Dallas Dango said:
Thank you for the information. The one I did was a PRP (Plasma Rich Platelet) injection. They draw your blood, spin it in a centrifuge, and inject your platelets into the corpora cavernosa (two on each side) and one injection at the base of the gland. The NP said to try to be sexually active as soon as possible and also said pumping, ADS's and manuals were fine, but to not go over 10hg on the pump. Apparently this is a similar process women get that is called a vampire facial.
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Yep. My wife also does that as well. We have a centrifuge machine here at our place that my wife lugs around with her during girls' nights. They extract their blood, remove plasma, and reinject the plasma back into their facial areas. All I can say is, "I need to apply a hazardous waste permit".

If you're using the PRP, the method is to safely uses your own blood to maximize the internal expansion. This what we're doing with pumping. When they encourage pumping, that's what they're mirroring through PE pumping routine. Plasma remains in the corpa cavernosa and spongiosum longer than just blood. We use the C-ring for that purpose as well. To trap blood in the penis after the pumping routine to max out the expansion. See how things tend to flow together?
 
oldandlively said:
To make things clear for the brothers, I have both statistical data for both P-shot, or known as hyaluronic acid dermal filler, and semi-permanent (not permanent) Polymethyl Methacrylate, or known as PMMA. I wouldn't recommend PMMA at all. If I have to put that poison in my penis, I might as well ask for a penile transplant from some guy with a massive penis.

Now, let's refocus on the P-shot, or HA, or whatever they want to call it now. I know a few brothers PM me on top of the post request for info. I'll make it nice and clear for the brothers that may think about it, covering as many aspects as possible.

HA fillers is not a permanent solution. It's just a temporary filler. My wife uses on herself and her friends all the time. What it does is to fill out the shallow layer of your penis, not directly into the corpa cavernosa and spongiosum, or the chambers where the blood is stored during an erection. It makes your penis gain an instant 0.5in (1.27cm) to 0.6in (1.52cm). BUT, that is just temporary. The filler only lasts between 2 weeks (the shortest recorded clinical info) to the 3 months (the longest). This is why there are so many plans involved from a few months to a few years. You come back to get more injections, commonly 2 to 5, from 3mL to 50mL (for very large penis going into 10inx7in).

The clinics will warn you NEVER to pursue PE the moment you get the filler. The filler will be displaced the moment you jelq, pump, or masterbate as you're forcing the filler to exit the dermal layer. Can you massage lightly? Sure you can. Of course, there's a likely chance the filler will still exit the inject location.

How often you do come back for "touch up" injections? For some, a couple of weeks. For most, a month to two months. For a rare few, 3 to 5 months. The funny thing is, the more sex you have, the more the frequent the returners for touch ups.

Will it become permanent? Here's the funny part of it. YES, it can. BUT, there's a caveat. The more expensive plans that goes up into the categories of years (2 to 5 years that is), there are requirements of medical devices application. I talked to a few of the clinics, and guess what the devices are? Pumps and traction devices. Really? Why have expensive plans for injections for a short term appearances and have to perform the implementation of devices as well? Just stick with Length Master for daily length stretches, pumps for girth, and save your the money.

Marketing indicates the gains, but not the gory details behind it. Some like to follow Doc Hink because he performs PE on himself as well. I'll use his info as one of the media to provide the flip side of extreme PE. Some brothers injured themselves on the PE journey from being overzealous with their routines. I'm included in the past, and even now when I didn't pay attention to put safety at the forefront during tiredsome days, or on unique testing days to push my limits. Either be injections (where you can damage your nerves and blood vessels at injection sites), using devices for elongation and expansion, or manual stretches going beyond the penile body to handle, you will induce injuries. It doesn't take much to get injuries. This is why clinical studies place hard limits on cellular stresses:

Stretches: 0.3lb to 2.5lbs exceeding the penile capacity to stretch long term. 1.5lbs to 5lbs for sudden traumas causing micro tears.

Pumping: 3inHg is the base limit for normal healthy erections. 5lbs is the critical limit for normal pumping limit (such as Bathmate), and 10inHg is the upper bound limit for any extremist. Over time, your penis adapts and 5inhg to 10inHg doesn't cut it. This is where the black magic growth going towards 15inHg comes in. However, there are greater chances of injuries at this upper limit. The higher you go, the greater the expansion, and the greater the risk.

Jelqing: it works! The internal pressure through medial expansion is around 3 to 5inHg. Constant jelqing places the penile expansion slightly above the safety limit. It expands slowly and constantly. Long term application of jelqing does proven both expansion of the penis and the elongation of the penile shaft.

Where's the HA falls into the category of PE? It lies in the constant expansion of the dermal layer. Yes, you get the expansion there, but the expansion without the development of additional tissue density will not create a permanent size. If you use both HA and PE routines, yes, you'll get permanent expansion. HA can act as a post-elongation routine. It will not act as post-expansion routine (using penis ring for internal post expansion, micro gap creation, and cellular repairing-duplication).

Hope this short blurb gives you clarity. If you need more, we can go into greater details.
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Brilliant 👏
 
The supplement I use will probably not be available anymore. Any recommendations?
 

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If you're looking for the Infowars Life Super Male Vitality drops, there are many, and I mean many supplements closer to that. I'm not sure what you are chasing after, but that specific brand will continue on through either eBay or Amazon for quite a few years to come. I won't discuss the stories behind the promoter nor the company. However, I want to point out the components.

If you want to create your own DIY-er solution without the fillers, glycerin and purified water, that makes up the 75% to 90% of the volume purchase the separate component for yourself, and make 10 times the volume for nearly a fraction of the cost. If you believe it's helping you, get the components separately, siphon out 1 to 1 ratio for each component, add in 20 to 1 distilled water to component volume, and you'll have a higher concentration for your body to use with higher stability. Leave it in the refrigerator and you'll have quite a bit of volume to play with for the years to come. Only create as much as you need in a given month. Extracts tend to oxidize in water and air.
 
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Damn you are good. Feel free to give recommendations. I am not a diy’r for this at least. Just looking for a good supplement to replace it once they get shut down.
 
We may have a spook on our hands! 😂 JK I would like a supplement that is recommended for PE. Does not have to be from any particular manufacturer or distributor. I like the tincture and ease of use. I guess it helps, but I can’t tell, because everything has helped on this site. 👍
 
It won't be shut down. That specific brand has too many loyal followers to support a different case. However, the combination of components can be created easily using your own collective of extracts, be in liquid or dry. It's practically a common recipe used by anyone and everyone. You have to know what you're chasing after, be libido, blood flow, blood pressure, erectile quality, buzzing in the penis, penis rocket fuel, or whatever you're trying to go for.

For libido, what you're using is merely an over diluted version of a tincture. It acts more of an energy booster than a libido driver. The Hawthorne berry and bark extracts provide a heavier booster to libido than that tincture. If you're looking for blood flow, Horny Goat Weed extract is 3 times the driver than that tincture, but it does contain phytoestrogen compounds that will reduce your PE effectiveness.

That tincture is a cobble of what could work and slam them together in hoping that it will work. If you're chasing after PE, you need to step far back, create an objective evaluation of what your body is lacking, and start providing a good bioavailabilities for your body to use. Quite a few brothers here indicated on their logs of what they're using and what's effective for them. I have my own list as well that works well for me, including my experimentation along the way. Brother @Haursen is great in documenting his intake (latest https://mattersofsize.com/threads/haursens-comeback.1831460/page-15). Thank you brother @Haursen for your time and efforts in typing it all out in his list current list (https://mattersofsize.com/threads/haursens-comeback.1831460/post-1968344).

So, what are you looking to achieve in PE in terms of supplements?
 
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It won't be shut down. That specific brand has too many loyal followers to support a different case. However, the combination of components can be created easily using your own collective of extracts, be in liquid or dry. It's practically a common recipe used by anyone and everyone. You have to know what you're chasing after, be libido, blood flow, blood pressure, erectile quality, buzzing in the penis, penis rocket fuel, or whatever you're trying to go for.

For libido, what you're using is merely an over diluted version of a tincture. It acts more of an energy booster than a libido driver. The Hawthorne berry and bark extracts provide a heavier booster to libido than that tincture. If you're looking for blood flow, Horny Goat Weed extract is 3 times the driver than that tincture, but it does contain phytoestrogen compounds that will reduce your PE effectiveness.

That tincture is a cobble of what could work and slam them together in hoping that it will work. If you're chasing after PE, you need to step far back, create an objective evaluation of what your body is lacking, and start providing a good bioavailabilities for your body to use. Quite a few brothers here indicated on their logs of what they're using and what's effective for them. I have my own list as well that works well for me, including my experimentation along the way. Brother @Haursen is great in documenting his intake (latest https://mattersofsize.com/threads/haursens-comeback.1831460/page-15). Thank you brother @Haursen for your time and efforts in typing it all out in his list current list (https://mattersofsize.com/threads/haursens-comeback.1831460/post-1968344).

So, what are you looking to achieve in PE in terms of supplements?
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Thank you so much. I had it laying around and never took it until PE. Everything works well before, and even better now, after doing PE. Never had a problem or concern in the bedroom, married 10 years. Just want to know the best supplement to help PE, or if it doesn’t exist that is okay too. 👍
 
Got it. Looks like you're chasing after three fronts:
  • Libido driver to boost sex drive; freaky in the bedroom.
  • Blood flow and pressure enhancement; getting your penis at optimal level.
  • Healing and promoting penile growth if available.
Lidibo:

Well, libido is based on testoterone level. Low testosterone will reduce lidibo. Low testosterone and libido also caused by stresses and improper diets, lack of exercises to get the proper blood flow and hormone boosts from physical activities, and of course, mental focus on the sexual needs (far removed from watching too much naked people entertainment). We all want that few drops of miracle daily to make things all golden.

What you are using, if it's helping, can be continue as one-to-one ratio you can purchase on your own. As I said, easy mixing. You can stick with that company's product, or you can get others in pills, powder, and even liquid forms. Each company creates its own formulation based on available raw materials and market using slogans of "The greatest gain and improvements" and milk the crap out of it.
  • T-Drive (my neighbors use this) but also recommend Testro-X
  • Sex Dust (my colleagues use this)
  • Your tincture also have rivals from RD Alchemy's Men's Libido Support Extract
  • Irwin Naturals Steel-Libido plus BioPerine and Homme Fatale (wife's friend use this)
  • I have to stop here. Can't remember other company as the formulas are nearly the same.

Blood flow:

Oofffph..I lost count of the products out there. I'll try to provide the info based on my memory, or lack there of:
  • MOS Shop Titan (TiTan Plus - Penis Pills for Harder Erections)
  • Nitro Boost
  • GNC ArginMax (I think)
  • Male Vitality STAQ (or was it STACK?)
  • Umzu Redwood extract (I used this in the past to super boost my blood flow for high elevation cycling)
  • L-citrulline malate (4g to 5g) combo with Vit D3 (800IU)
  • Any further and they're all the same.
PE healing:

Standard vitamins. NOWS food is great with their supplements. I save money with Bulk Supplements since my boys and I use large quantity.
  • L-citrulline malate (4g to 5g) combo HMB (4g) and Vit D3 (400IU), BUT DO NOT USE WITH CALCIUM!!! If you are using calcium, crank the Vit D3 back way down to 800IU.
  • Mega vitamins for men to get as many available resource as you can.
  • Look at Haursen's list. He got it down to a science now.
 
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