New Sleeves need some feedback

[DLD]

We are now trying to get the best pricing on these sleeves by buying the substrate in large amounts (very large upfront cost) we also are going to cast a mold so these can be made faster. My question is pricing. Phallosan sells their sleeves at a ridiculous $26.50 a piece, I had to look at that a few times top realize they are truly that expensive. Cheap Chinese sleeves are anywhere from $20 down to $5. The $20 sleeves are decent and the $5 sleeves are shit. Neither sleeve compares to the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] sleeve. So we are at a point of where we need to be price wise. I am considering doing multi-packs and single sales. Now before I ask these sleeves we are making are so much better than [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] by far. So what I would like to know is what do you guys think is fair pricing? I understand in the beginning we will lose money due to upfront costs but after that is absorbed what would be a good retail price for a piece? Would 5 packs or 10 packs be a good idea? Please help us with this as prices are all over the place. Thanks for the feedback and help in these final steps.

 

[MikeyM]

We are now trying to get the best pricing on these sleeves by buying the substrate in large amounts (very large upfront cost) we also are going to cast a mold so these can be made faster. My question is pricing. [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] sells their sleeves at a ridiculous $26.50 a piece, I had to look at that a few times top realize they are truly that expensive. Cheap Chinese sleeves are anywhere from $20 down to $5. The $20 sleeves are decent and the $5 sleeves are shit. Neither sleeve compares to the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] sleeve. So we are at a point of where we need to be price wise. I am considering doing multi-packs and single sales. Now before I ask these sleeves we are making are so much better than [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] by far. So what I would like to know is what do you guys think is fair pricing? I understand in the beginning we will lose money due to upfront costs but after that is absorbed what would be a good retail price for a piece? Would 5 packs or 10 packs be a good idea? Please help us with this as prices are all over the place. Thanks for the feedback and help in these final steps.

I would think you would have your guys that would want to try it first then maybe get more. So maybe have packs of 1, 3, 10.. I'm ready to try them out!

 

[DLD]

I would think you would have your guys that would want to try it first then maybe get more. So maybe have packs of 1, 3, 10.. I'm ready to try them out!

They have been tested and approved

 

[MikeyM]

They have been tested and approved

Yeah I remember that. I thought you were asking how we would like to see them sold.

 

[DLD]

I also want Bandit to know, I do not rip people off, I make people money! You wanna do your thing and sell it somewhere else go for it. I take small time shit and make it big. If we ain’t talking bout large money what’s the fucking point? I am the most honest dude in this business. I have made many people money without taking a cent so you guys can get deals. What do you think I am going to do? Sit around and cast a sleeve or 2 a day? Really? I got involved because I have the cloud to make this successful, which makes you money, much more than some ghetto ass one sleeve a day operation! I give it to Lightning and He makes it happen. And what do you have to do? Nothing! Just sit back and get paid. I guess that’s a bit better than your accusation, huh? Peace

 

[bandit2010]

hey sorry I was not accusing anyone of anything, I was just simply stating what I seen, I am sorry if I made anyone mad.

 

[DLD]

Trust me! I love you as a Brother, I would never do anything to violate.

 

[Sinthious]

I also want Bandit to know, I do not rip people off, I make people money! You wanna do your thing and sell it somewhere else go for it. I take small time shit and make it big. If we ain’t talking bout large money what’s the fucking point? I am the most honest dude in this business. I have made many people money without taking a cent so you guys can get deals. What do you think I am going to do? Sit around and cast a sleeve or 2 a day? Really? I got involved because I have the cloud to make this successful, which makes you money, much more than some ghetto ass one sleeve a day operation! I give it to Lightning and He makes it happen. And what do you have to do? Nothing! Just sit back and get paid. I guess that’s a bit better than your accusation, huh? Peace

Woah Dld take a step back this is highly aggressive, I would like to try and see if we can clear the air a little so that this whole mess can calm down with out any more aggression from either party. I do think there have been some aggressive actions taken by both of you wither directly or indirectly i think this can still be cleared up where both of you can be happy. I have spoken to bandit via the phone at length about this i do believe there have been some misunderstandings between Bandits southern accent and word choice that may have implied some aggressive and accusative topics that he did not earnestly mean.

Edit:
I posted then noticed the other two, after i typed it out, still Dld if you would PM me i would like your input.

 

[Lookn4girth]

I would think that the price should be higher than the shit ones and less than the decent ones. My thinking is that if you can get a better product at a cheaper price, why spend more money on something that is lower quality. I have bought one of the shit ones for $5 before and after testing the one that bandit made, I would gladly pay more for it. By the way, I am still using that sleeve that he sent me

 

[huge-girth]

We are now trying to get the best pricing on these sleeves by buying the substrate in large amounts (very large upfront cost) we also are going to cast a mold so these can be made faster. My question is pricing. [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] sells their sleeves at a ridiculous $26.50 a piece, I had to look at that a few times top realize they are truly that expensive. Cheap Chinese sleeves are anywhere from $20 down to $5. The $20 sleeves are decent and the $5 sleeves are shit. Neither sleeve compares to the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] sleeve. So we are at a point of where we need to be price wise. I am considering doing multi-packs and single sales. Now before I ask these sleeves we are making are so much better than [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] by far. So what I would like to know is what do you guys think is fair pricing? I understand in the beginning we will lose money due to upfront costs but after that is absorbed what would be a good retail price for a piece? Would 5 packs or 10 packs be a good idea? Please help us with this as prices are all over the place. Thanks for the feedback and help in these final steps.

This sleeve has been tested and approved (even by one of our biggest critics, stillwantsmore) and it is by far superior to the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] sleeve therefore, I think fair pricing is when you have a superior product that sells around same price with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] sleeve. A single sleeve shouldn't be sold anything less than $25. I mean you are getting a meaningful sleeve which is worth the money. $25 is not expensive at all when you think about the quality of the sleeve.

 

[DLD]

hey sorry I was not accusing anyone of anything, I was just simply stating what I seen, I am sorry if I made anyone mad.

If you charged for the samples you were casting what do you feel is a good price per piece retail? The pricing is all over the place. The price we charge can be adjusted by how much we buy in quantity. So if you had to consider your time and material cost what would you need to charge retail for the sleeve as is. This will give me a good baseline. We were thinking in the $15 range with a 5 year warranty. Thoughts Bandit and all else involved?


Remember also these sleeve will not be ready for some time as we need to finalize some other factors.

 

[DLD]

Woah Dld take a step back this is highly aggressive, I would like to try and see if we can clear the air a little so that this whole mess can calm down with out any more aggression from either party. I do think there have been some aggressive actions taken by both of you wither directly or indirectly i think this can still be cleared up where both of you can be happy. I have spoken to bandit via the phone at length about this i do believe there have been some misunderstandings between Bandits southern accent and word choice that may have implied some aggressive and accusative topics that he did not earnestly mean.

Edit:
I posted then noticed the other two, after i typed it out, still Dld if you would PM me i would like your input.

I took like 10 steps back, it's all good. It was rumored I was cutting bandit out of this and that is something that troubles me greatly as I have always been nothing but a stand up guy who does what he says he is going to do. I did not talk with Bandit, I was called at home by LIGHTNING who told me I was being called a cheat and a liar and this really took me back as I am doing everything I can for this project to make Bandit successful in what he is doing. This means I need to take his work and make it profitable. Do you guys want to pay $50 a sleeve? Of course not, you want the best price possible and that means new molds and warehousing bulk material. At the rate of making these one a piece the price would be ridiculous and everyone loses. When I get involved I try to cut costs and improve quality. If this is considered me "ripping someone off" or "Cutting them out" then the whole point is missed. I am honest and upstaging and in the end Bandit will do far better than he ever could without our support.

 

[DLD]

I would think that the price should be higher than the shit ones and less than the decent ones. My thinking is that if you can get a better product at a cheaper price, why spend more money on something that is lower quality. I have bought one of the shit ones for $5 before and after testing the one that bandit made, I would gladly pay more for it. By the way, I am still using that sleeve that he sent me

I am very confident in everything to the point of a warranty. If I go with $15 I can add a warranty and get Bandit a good profit while covering our costs and making a small profit for the Brotherhood to help pay bills and such. I think that if we can make this sleeve of such a high quality a warranty SHOULD be something we offer showing our we confidence in the product. Now if we are able to get affiliates to carry our sleeves and they catch the market, pricing can come further down.

 

[DLD]

This sleeve has been tested and approved (even by one of our biggest critics, stillwantsmore) and it is by far superior to the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] sleeve therefore, I think fair pricing is when you have a superior product that sells around same price with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] sleeve. A single sleeve shouldn't be sold anything less than $25. I mean you are getting a meaningful sleeve which is worth the money. $25 is not expensive at all when you think about the quality of the sleeve.

$25 is just too high in my opinion, maybe I am being too low at $15, maybe a compromise of $18 and maybe a 2 pack for $30? I can't really peg it down specifically until all feedback and pricing comes back. Getting closer and I am very excited.

 

[Sinthious]

I took like 10 steps back, it's all good. It was rumored I was cutting bandit out of this and that is something that troubles me greatly as I have always been nothing but a stand up guy who does what he says he is going to do. I did not talk with Bandit, I was called at home by LIGHTNING who told me I was being called a cheat and a liar and this really took me back as I am doing everything I can for this project to make Bandit successful in what he is doing. This means I need to take his work and make it profitable. Do you guys want to pay $50 a sleeve? Of course not, you want the best price possible and that means new molds and warehousing bulk material. At the rate of making these one a piece the price would be ridiculous and everyone loses. When I get involved I try to cut costs and improve quality. If this is considered me "ripping someone off" or "Cutting them out" then the whole point is missed. I am honest and upstaging and in the end Bandit will do far better than he ever could without our support.

I can understand your outrage and do not disagree that it was deserved, I have heard Bandits side but until now i had little first hand info on your side this is why i wanted your input. I do believe some negative information about you and the way you have handled certain topics (true or not does not matter) had been fed to Bandit that combined with him not having home internet and thus no communication throughout the project nor any fine detail on how he is included led him to the thinking that he was being cut loose before anything even happened. I feel i understand his concern from talking to him was that by mass producing the product he was worried that the finished product would be a cheap inferior product thus why he wanted to do the 1 off thing. I for lack of a better word lectured him about how no one is going to invest that amount of capital into a project that doesn't have a break even point before 5-10 years its just not logical and would be a horrible way to do business, I can conquer with your thinking with finding a way to produce a mass amount of product for as little as possible so that 1 profits can be secured and 2 the total cost of the product is one that will allow [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] members and the general public to buy said item. Now i would be happy to talk in more detail about everything if you would like, i am trying to keep a neutral standpoint so that this can be understood by both you and bandit.

 

[DLD]

I can understand your outrage and do not disagree that it was deserved, I have heard Bandits side but until now i had little first hand info on your side this is why i wanted your input. I do believe some negative information about you and the way you have handled certain topics (true or not does not matter) had been fed to Bandit that combined with him not having home internet and thus no communication throughout the project nor any fine detail on how he is included led him to the thinking that he was being cut loose before anything even happened. I feel i understand his concern from talking to him was that by mass producing the product he was worried that the finished product would be a cheap inferior product thus why he wanted to do the 1 off thing. I for lack of a better word lectured him about how no one is going to invest that amount of capital into a project that doesn't have a break even point before 5-10 years its just not logical and would be a horrible way to do business, I can conquer with your thinking with finding a way to produce a mass amount of product for as little as possible so that 1 profits can be secured and 2 the total cost of the product is one that will allow [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] members and the general public to buy said item. Now i would be happy to talk in more detail about everything if you would like, i am trying to keep a neutral standpoint so that this can be understood by both you and bandit.

There is no issue as long as Bandit knows I am looking out for him. In addition, we are not mass producing, we are making a better mold that will allow us to make more than one or two a day, bring costs down while improving quality. There is really nothing to understand then I am taking what Bandit did and making it into something that everyone can afford and have a quality sleeve that will last. In addition we can offer warranty that would just kill Bandit if he has to replace sleeves every time there was a warranty issue. If you are in contact with him tell him I am doing something that will benefit him so much more than anything he is thinking about now. Simply relay the message that he is in good hands. I have been doing this since 1999 and I have made many small companies into giants with my eye always on giving you guys the best pricing. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BathMate[/words], [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words], [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words], [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words], without [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] they would not have anywhere near the success they have. We are trusted official forums of all our affiliates we carry, just how good we are with solid partnerships.

 

[DLD]

There is no issue as long as Bandit knows I am looking out for him. In addition, we are not mass producing, we are making a better mold that will allow us to make more than one or two a day, bring costs down while improving quality. There is really nothing to understand then I am taking what Bandit did and making it into something that everyone can afford and have a quality sleeve that will last. In addition we can offer warranty that would just kill Bandit if he has to replace sleeves every time there was a warranty issue. If you are in contact with him tell him I am doing something that will benefit him so much more than anything he is thinking about now. Simply relay the message that he is in good hands. I have been doing this since 1999 and I have made many small companies into giants with my eye always on giving you guys the best pricing. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BathMate[/words], [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words], [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words], [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words], without [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] they would not have anywhere near the success they have. We are trusted official forums of all our affiliates we carry, just how good we are with solid partnerships.

PS: I never get outraged, I never even get mad. I was simply upset that I was being misrepresented or misunderstood as I take it now. I am a vert strong leader here so I am direct and I do not mince my words. I am who I have always been, a man of God who has always looked out for the nest of the Brotherhood.

 

[Sinthious]

PS: I never get outraged, I never even get mad. I was simply upset that I was being misrepresented or misunderstood as I take it now. I am a vert strong leader here so I am direct and I do not mince my words. I am who I have always been, a man of God who has always looked out for the nest of the Brotherhood.

That is what i meant by outrage the way you felt you were being represented, From what you have said today I can at least say that you and Bandit have a similar goal in mind, Produce a quality Sleeve that both [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], Bandit and yourself can have pride in I will relay your message to Bandit. I feel that this will be worked out smoothly and a good partnership can be formed, I know that one thing that is important to Bandit it to have some measure of partnership and communication it may be that the lack of internet connection is the bump in the road that is making this process hard. Should i be able to assist let me know

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

Jeez, a guy doesn't log-on for one day and misses-out on all the fun!

 

[DLD]

When I make an affiliate it is all business and handled by Lightning. The deal is made. Nothing goes unaccounted for and everything is recorded and paid monthly. As I said I have worked with many partners and everyone of them has done well. But those who try to go off on their own? Good luck with that! But again, I do not get angry or upset, I become protective of my name and that of the Brotherhood. I appreciate your help in this, conveying my message.

 

[DLD]

Yeah, leave me here to fend for myself! I am almost a senoir citizen! 😂

 

[Lookn4girth]

I am very confident in everything to the point of a warranty. If I go with $15 I can add a warranty and get Bandit a good profit while covering our costs and making a small profit for the Brotherhood to help pay bills and such. I think that if we can make this sleeve of such a high quality a warranty SHOULD be something we offer showing our we confidence in the product. Now if we are able to get affiliates to carry our sleeves and they catch the market, pricing can come further down.

$15 and a warranty sounds fair if you ask me.

 

[DLD]

$15 and a warranty sounds fair if you ask me.

I am thinking the same. Maybe $15 and a 1 year warranty. I was also considering doing multipacks for a discounted price, maybe 5.10, 20 packs?

 

[Lookn4girth]

I am thinking the same. Maybe $15 and a 1 year warranty. I was also considering doing multipacks for a discounted price, maybe 5.10, 20 packs?

That sounds like a good idea to me. I personally would want to order more than one to have extras

 

[DLD]

That sounds like a good idea to me. I personally would want to order more than one to have extras

Agreed and some men use sleeves for different reasons so men may want to buy in bulk to save money.

 

[cladre60]

Not that I'm in need of one at this time but from reading this I've come to the following conclusions

- a few people need to get your asses on a conference call and hug it out. Watch out for DLD's 3rd leg. As I've found things that are typed can be taken differently than things spoken.

- price should be competitive with comparable products. The same quality sleeve is available for $20... does it offer a warranty? Do they offer a discount for a multipack? If you're push
Offering a warranty and they aren't then I'd say $18 for one, $32 for 2, and $15 each for 3 or more. Want 10 or more? $12 each (bulk price). Push the warranty issue too.

Just my $0.02 from a basic consumer standpoint.

 

[DLD]

Not that I'm in need of one at this time but from reading this I've come to the following conclusions

- a few people need to get your asses on a conference call and hug it out. Watch out for DLD's 3rd leg. As I've found things that are typed can be taken differently than things spoken.

- price should be competitive with comparable products. The same quality sleeve is available for $20... does it offer a warranty? Do they offer a discount for a multipack? If you're push
Offering a warranty and they aren't then I'd say $18 for one, $32 for 2, and $15 each for 3 or more. Want 10 or more? $12 each (bulk price). Push the warranty issue too.

Just my $0.02 from a basic consumer standpoint.

Thanks for the feedback my Brother and you are very correct, things can be misunderstood, this is why we will be adding many emojis to help in this. Pricing ideas sound great. LIGHTNING wants to do a lifetime warranty but this I think is too bold, perhaps a year warranty. We are also exploring doing the caps too, which will be of the same quality.

 

[Lookn4girth]

Thanks for the feedback my Brother and you are very correct, things can be misunderstood, this is why we will be adding many emojis to help in this. Pricing ideas sound great. LIGHTNING wants to do a lifetime warranty but this I think is too bold, perhaps a year warranty. We are also exploring doing the caps too, which will be of the same quality.

Are you talking about the glans cap DLD? That would be a great addition.

 

[huge-girth]

Are you talking about the glans cap DLD? That would be a great addition.

Yes I'm sure he is talking about the glans cap.

 

[DLD]

Are you talking about the glans cap DLD? That would be a great addition.

Yes the glans cap. This can be greatly improved on. Getting pricing on a second dye to accomplish this.

 

[Lookn4girth]

Yes the glans cap. This can be greatly improved on. Getting pricing on a second dye to accomplish this.

That will be nice. The two I have are getting stretched out.

 

[huge-girth]

That will be nice. The two I have are getting stretched out.

The glans cap that came with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] gets stretched out too quick, mine didn't last up t 3 weeks.

 

[DLD]

That will be nice. The two I have are getting stretched out.

That is the problem with these things, the quality is not up to par. The new sleeves and caps will be very impressive once they are released.

 

[huge-girth]

That is the problem with these things, the quality is not up to par. The new sleeves and caps will be very impressive once they are released.

I don't really understand why these companies make their products with very week parts. I heard the penilmasterpro seems to be better because you only need to buy one spare part and it's advisable to buy the spare part while placing your order. The spare part to buy along with your order is the Hose application system

 

[DLD]

I don't really understand why these companies make their products with very week parts. I heard the penilmasterpro seems to be better because you only need to buy one spare part and it's advisable to buy the spare part while placing your order. The spare part to buy along with your order is the Hose application system

I think it is because no-one has put the proper effort into making a quality sleeve. Everyone knows there are issues with sleeves but the only place willing to do something about it was [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and Bandit's hard work that brought the proper quality needed. Now we are taking Bandit's work and making it much easier and faster to produce these, that comes in the way of molds. It will take more time than hoped but worth the time. LIGHTNING takes projects and brings them to the next level, so we can expect an even better product when done. This is exciting for the Brotherhood but also good news for Bandit who will reap the rewards of his work.

 

[huge-girth]

I think it is because no-one has put the proper effort into making a quality sleeve. Everyone knows there are issues with sleeves but the only place willing to do something about it was [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and Bandit's hard work that brought the proper quality needed. Now we are taking Bandit's work and making it much easier and faster to produce these, that comes in the way of molds. It will take more time than hoped but worth the time. LIGHTNING takes projects and brings them to the next level, so we can expect an even better product when done. This is exciting for the Brotherhood but also good news for Bandit who will reap the rewards of his work.

Bandits did a great job and deserves every reward he gets.

 

[DLD]

Bandits did a great job and deserves every reward he gets.

Indeed, if it were not for him we would not have this product as we do. i can't wait for the molds to be done!

 

[huge-girth]

Indeed, if it were not for him we would not have this product as we do. i can't wait for the molds to be done!

Me too.

 

[Chaoskampf]

A price of 15$ with a lifetime of 3-6 months would be great.

Size would be important for me since I am not able to find sleeves larger than what is considered XL on the market.

 

[Chaoskampf]

I don't really understand why these companies make their products with very week parts. I heard the penilmasterpro seems to be better because you only need to buy one spare part and it's advisable to buy the spare part while placing your order. The spare part to buy along with your order is the Hose application system

Quite common in business if you ask me.

Spare parts make money over time.

Part of "Planned obsolescence"!

But also performance. Heavy duty parts would be stiffer and less flexible. I always put some money on the side of spare parts every month.

 

[Chaoskampf]

The glans cap that came with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] gets stretched out too quick, mine didn't last up t 3 weeks.

Indeed, 3 weeks is actually good. My problem with the glans cap was that it creeped under the foreskin making it really uncomfortable. That is why I use waterproof moss textured tape from China. The tape is also made by 3M called Nexcare and Curad flexible foam tape.

 

[Disco Dave]

Mos rocks.

 

[huge-girth]

Indeed, 3 weeks is actually good. My problem with the glans cap was that it creeped under the foreskin making it really uncomfortable. That is why I use waterproof moss textured tape from China. The tape is also made by 3M called Nexcare and Curad flexible foam tape.

Glad you found an alternative. When I could no longer use the glans cap, I started using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] with any glans protection and it still worked very well for me.

 

[Chaoskampf]

Glad you found an alternative. When I could no longer use the glans cap, I started using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] with any glans protection and it still worked very well for me.

Without any glans protection you meant? I used it without and it worked in the beginning.

But the LG Hanger requires taping for sure, especially when girth becomes bigger and the bigger replacement chamber would cost 200$. I need tape and baby powder. Unfortunately the baby powder clogs the CPC valve which prevents it to fully close so it has to be cleaned from time to time.

 

[DLD]

Mos rocks.

Dave, where have you been my Brother? So good to see you around. Have you been training? Any new gains?

 

[huge-girth]

Without any glans protection you meant? I used it without and it worked in the beginning.

But the LG Hanger requires taping for sure, especially when girth becomes bigger and the bigger replacement chamber would cost 200$. I need tape and baby powder. Unfortunately the baby powder clogs the CPC valve which prevents it to fully close so it has to be cleaned from time to time.

What happened last on? It's no longer working for you?

 

[Chaoskampf]

What happened last on? It's no longer working for you?

You mean what happened with wearing the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] without any tape or cap? At some point it didn't work anymore I think. Without any cap I had some fluid buildup and putting it on could be painful because of too much friction when trying to squeeze on the chamber.

So with the LG Hanger I take my foreskin and pull it forward, press it together and then put a tape to hold it closed in place. Like this the foreskin coveres the entire glans. Then I place another tape lateral to the first one to protect the wrinkles that are produced by the foreskin to the left and the right. This is now fine for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] because the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] chamber is large enough. Since the LG Hanger chamber is smaller I have to add some baby powder and apply it on the tape and some on the skin at the tip. Then it is smooth enough to get pulled in by the vacuum pump.

 

[huge-girth]

You mean what happened with wearing the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] without any tape or cap? At some point it didn't work anymore I think. Without any cap I had some fluid buildup and putting it on could be painful because of too much friction when trying to squeeze on the chamber.

So with the LG Hanger I take my foreskin and pull it forward, press it together and then put a tape to hold it closed in place. Like this the foreskin coveres the entire glans. Then I place another tape lateral to the first one to protect the wrinkles that are produced by the foreskin to the left and the right. This is now fine for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] because the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] chamber is large enough. Since the LG Hanger chamber is smaller I have to add some baby powder and apply it on the tape and some on the skin at the tip. Then it is smooth enough to get pulled in by the vacuum pump.

Yes I was trying to say what happened when you used the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] without the glans protector cap. I never had any problem when I used mine without it. I threw the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] away when I realized that I need to be buying condom sleeves regularly. When it comes to length, I give it all to the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words], you don't need to buy any spare parts.

 

[Chaoskampf]

Yes I was trying to say what happened when you used the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] without the glans protector cap. I never had any problem when I used mine without it. I threw the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] away when I realized that I need to be buying condom sleeves regularly. When it comes to length, I give it all to the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words], you don't need to buy any spare parts.

Well I graduated at aircraft mechanic school specialising in maintenance. Having spareparts in the shelf is a 'matter of honour' for me. I got my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] in April 2017 but I never broke any condom. However I had to buy larger ones. You also would have had problems with the girth restriction. Still it hurts to read that you have thrown that 300$ device away - I suppose you didn't like it much.

Well, good sleeves are everything. I broke another sleeve (the main break point is right at the flange of the vacuum chamber --> there it will create a tiny hole which probably comes from all the stresses that occur in relation to the chamber walls). I will do some experiments fixing this leak with superglue or even bicycle tyre patches.

These sleeve were only one month old and I went back to the Original LG Hanger. I have forgotten that the LGs are still functional, they have a tiny hole too, but then you just turn the sleeve around, placing the end with the hole towards the base of the penis instead of right on the chamber attachment. The LG Hanger sleeves are very long and that allows so much more hanging weight. Glad to be back.


Then I also thought about making sleeves myself. Would require two tubes probably as a mold and then two component silicone. But first I will wait for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] a bit longer.

 

[huge-girth]

Well I graduated at aircraft mechanic school specialising in maintenance. Having spareparts in the shelf is a 'matter of honour' for me. I got my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] in April 2017 but I never broke any condom. However I had to buy larger ones. You also would have had problems with the girth restriction. Still it hurts to read that you have thrown that 300$ device away - I suppose you didn't like it much.

Well, good sleeves are everything. I broke another sleeve (the main break point is right at the flange of the vacuum chamber --> there it will create a tiny hole which probably comes from all the stresses that occur in relation to the chamber walls). I will do some experiments fixing this leak with superglue or even bicycle tyre patches.

These sleeve were only one month old and I went back to the Original LG Hanger. I have forgotten that the LGs are still functional, they have a tiny hole too, but then you just turn the sleeve around, placing the end with the hole towards the base of the penis instead of right on the chamber attachment. The LG Hanger sleeves are very long and that allows so much more hanging weight. Glad to be back.


Then I also thought about making sleeves myself. Would require two tubes probably as a mold and then two component silicone. But first I will wait for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] a bit longer.

I loved the device and I enjoyed using it at max tension. But after 7 days of using it at max tension, the sleeves starts tearing apart at the edge that is attached to the bell just as you have stated. What I want to own is the penilmasterpro. That is the only device I need right now to enable me get to 9 inches length. I created a new thread with a problem I'm currently having and I'd like you to check it out and let me know what you think. See the thread below:

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/90954-flaccid-length-measurement.html