It's been putting back burner for too long. While doing my routines, I'll provide the comparison. This is not an exhausted comparison for the two unit, but it's a starter. Add more info into the discussion if you like.
Let's do side-by-side comparison first according to main issues we've been discussing.
Water vs Air:
Both units can use water and air. The subject of water vs air is discussed in another discussion. There are plenty of prior discussion about the benefits water over air, air over water, and combinations there of. The search function will provide you many prior discussions.
Cylinder size: +1 to the MityVac
Both units cover all needed length, going from 5-inch (~13cm) all the way to 11-inch (~28cm). Anything beyond 11-inch, Bathmate fails to accommodate, where as MityVac can extend its custom cylinder size further based on demands. Bathmate does not go beyond the limit of 11-inch.
Now, the problem with this is the base size. I may be wrong on this, but Bathmate current 11-inch supporting cylinder base inner diameter maxed out at 2.75-inch (~7cm) without the comfort insert. That means the maximum girth circumference it can support 8.6-inch (or ~22cm). If you don't have a large pelvic base to accommodate the large base, your scrotum will be sucked into the cylinder. You can't go up one smaller base at a time according to your needs. The MityVac has a base from 1.5-inch (3.8cm) to 3.5-inch (8.9cm) with incrementation of 0.25-inch (0.64cm) at a time to ensure proper fitment for effective pumping.
This is where Mityvac has a +1 point under its score.
Penile influence uniformity: +1 to the MityVac
Look carefully at the cylinder of the Bathmate and the MityVac. Bathmate has a unique shape of wide base and 2/3 wideness at tip. This is to provide optimal blood flow, good pumping structural support, and strength design through lighter, thinner but strengthen plexiglass. Replacement of the valve can be a hassle for Bathmate. MityVac has a straight and uniform cylinder from the base to the tip, providing the same structural strength through toughen plexiglass, a bit heavier, and exchangeable parts with ease without any tightening tool.
However, there's a major difference when it come to uniformity of the penile shape. When pumping, we don't want our penis to be larger at one end and smaller at the other end. Some like the pyramid or inverted baseball bat shape. Most don't. Most like to enjoy a uniform looking penis, especially the glans, where the glans diameter should be equal to or larger than shaft. Using Bathmate, a pumper will be far removed from this uniformity due to the shape design. Using the MityVac, if you base, your mid shaft, or even your shaft segment towards the glans is mishapened (a penis having a rugby shape, an inverted baseball bat, a baseball bat, or unique oblong shape), the cylinder provides the penis the chance to expand the areas needed to expand, and restrict the areas that are not meant to expand just yet.
This is where Mityvac has a +1 point under its score.
Compactness for on-the-go:
When it comes to a pump compacted enough for on-the-go, Bathmate is it. It's just a cylinder for either air or water to maintain your pumping size on demands. MityVac needs both the cylinder and the pumping pistol. One more added part not needed for the suitcase.
However, Bathmate is not getting the half or full point for this. Why? Here's why.
Using Slow Squash Jelq (SSJ), you can maintain the same pressure loading as the default version of the Bathmate. SSJ can actually work better providing internal pressure up to 6inHg if you have strong hands, which is much higher than the Bathmate pump without the hand pump. If you use the Bathmate with the hand pump, it's no better than carrying the MityVac with the pistol pump. The only extra part is the 4 oz water trap.
Safety: +1 to the MityVac
Bathmate does not have a gauge. The manufacturer tells you to pump X amount of time. Pumpers in the support forums tell you to go by "feel". This is the most dangerous thing you can ever do. Going by "feel" can get you into hot water very fast as you may exceed the proper pressure and hurt yourself. Pumping pressure safety requires you to follow a strict incrementation of pressure one inHg at a time, through "feel", observation, measurement, and pre-conditioning. There are many discussions on this, and a link will be provided when the collective discussion is created. MityVac comes standard with the gauge for measurement. It's vital to have this gauge for safety measure. Bathmate does have a gauge aftermarket mod:
When using the pump, some brothers like to use lubricant like Vaseline to enhance the pumping experience. The water trap the MityVac has prevent these viscous lubricant from gumming up the valves and pump. If any of the lubricant goes into the Bathmate components, it's a nightmare in removing and clean the parts properly.
This is where Mityvac has a +1 point under its score.
Part coverage guarantee: +1 to the MityVac
Bathmate supposedly has a part replacement policy. I even paid for it. The only problem is, the costs for shipment is much higher than the costs of the parts themselves. I even paid for pre-shipment cost ahead of time as a one-time payment. That is not the case. When I asked for a replacement of the hand pump, the post-cost for the processing and shipment already exceeded the cost of the pump itself. I fear when the cylinder actually gives up, such as the baffle gaiter breaks or the cylinder cracks. I will have to paid extra for the replacement.
MOS Shop covers your replacement out the door with its lifetime guarantee. Something to look forward to.
This is where Mityvac has a +1 point under its score.
Product supports and assistance: +1 to the MityVac
Bathmate has its support forum. The question is, how extensive is the knowledge on that support forum? So many questions, but not a whole lot of answers. MityVac has its own videos, the entire brotherhood to support the product, and many users far exceeded Bathmate pumping populus. MityVac system is based on an evolution of systems since the 1960s. Bathmate hasn't been around that long and it's struggling to challenge the existing MityVac system.
The community here has enough mods and field tested the MityVac system more than Bathmate can ever hope to achieve. Bathmate even has support coming from this brotherhood on mods and field testing. I haven't see any modding coming from other communities yet. This brotherhood strive on safety and support on many products beside its own.
Okay, I'm done with my routines. Time to get ready for bed. Have fun tearing this discussion apart gents.
Let's do side-by-side comparison first according to main issues we've been discussing.
Water vs Air:
Both units can use water and air. The subject of water vs air is discussed in another discussion. There are plenty of prior discussion about the benefits water over air, air over water, and combinations there of. The search function will provide you many prior discussions.
Cylinder size: +1 to the MityVac
Both units cover all needed length, going from 5-inch (~13cm) all the way to 11-inch (~28cm). Anything beyond 11-inch, Bathmate fails to accommodate, where as MityVac can extend its custom cylinder size further based on demands. Bathmate does not go beyond the limit of 11-inch.
Now, the problem with this is the base size. I may be wrong on this, but Bathmate current 11-inch supporting cylinder base inner diameter maxed out at 2.75-inch (~7cm) without the comfort insert. That means the maximum girth circumference it can support 8.6-inch (or ~22cm). If you don't have a large pelvic base to accommodate the large base, your scrotum will be sucked into the cylinder. You can't go up one smaller base at a time according to your needs. The MityVac has a base from 1.5-inch (3.8cm) to 3.5-inch (8.9cm) with incrementation of 0.25-inch (0.64cm) at a time to ensure proper fitment for effective pumping.
This is where Mityvac has a +1 point under its score.
Penile influence uniformity: +1 to the MityVac
Look carefully at the cylinder of the Bathmate and the MityVac. Bathmate has a unique shape of wide base and 2/3 wideness at tip. This is to provide optimal blood flow, good pumping structural support, and strength design through lighter, thinner but strengthen plexiglass. Replacement of the valve can be a hassle for Bathmate. MityVac has a straight and uniform cylinder from the base to the tip, providing the same structural strength through toughen plexiglass, a bit heavier, and exchangeable parts with ease without any tightening tool.
However, there's a major difference when it come to uniformity of the penile shape. When pumping, we don't want our penis to be larger at one end and smaller at the other end. Some like the pyramid or inverted baseball bat shape. Most don't. Most like to enjoy a uniform looking penis, especially the glans, where the glans diameter should be equal to or larger than shaft. Using Bathmate, a pumper will be far removed from this uniformity due to the shape design. Using the MityVac, if you base, your mid shaft, or even your shaft segment towards the glans is mishapened (a penis having a rugby shape, an inverted baseball bat, a baseball bat, or unique oblong shape), the cylinder provides the penis the chance to expand the areas needed to expand, and restrict the areas that are not meant to expand just yet.
This is where Mityvac has a +1 point under its score.
Compactness for on-the-go:
When it comes to a pump compacted enough for on-the-go, Bathmate is it. It's just a cylinder for either air or water to maintain your pumping size on demands. MityVac needs both the cylinder and the pumping pistol. One more added part not needed for the suitcase.
However, Bathmate is not getting the half or full point for this. Why? Here's why.
Using Slow Squash Jelq (SSJ), you can maintain the same pressure loading as the default version of the Bathmate. SSJ can actually work better providing internal pressure up to 6inHg if you have strong hands, which is much higher than the Bathmate pump without the hand pump. If you use the Bathmate with the hand pump, it's no better than carrying the MityVac with the pistol pump. The only extra part is the 4 oz water trap.
Safety: +1 to the MityVac
Bathmate does not have a gauge. The manufacturer tells you to pump X amount of time. Pumpers in the support forums tell you to go by "feel". This is the most dangerous thing you can ever do. Going by "feel" can get you into hot water very fast as you may exceed the proper pressure and hurt yourself. Pumping pressure safety requires you to follow a strict incrementation of pressure one inHg at a time, through "feel", observation, measurement, and pre-conditioning. There are many discussions on this, and a link will be provided when the collective discussion is created. MityVac comes standard with the gauge for measurement. It's vital to have this gauge for safety measure. Bathmate does have a gauge aftermarket mod:
When using the pump, some brothers like to use lubricant like Vaseline to enhance the pumping experience. The water trap the MityVac has prevent these viscous lubricant from gumming up the valves and pump. If any of the lubricant goes into the Bathmate components, it's a nightmare in removing and clean the parts properly.
This is where Mityvac has a +1 point under its score.
Part coverage guarantee: +1 to the MityVac
Bathmate supposedly has a part replacement policy. I even paid for it. The only problem is, the costs for shipment is much higher than the costs of the parts themselves. I even paid for pre-shipment cost ahead of time as a one-time payment. That is not the case. When I asked for a replacement of the hand pump, the post-cost for the processing and shipment already exceeded the cost of the pump itself. I fear when the cylinder actually gives up, such as the baffle gaiter breaks or the cylinder cracks. I will have to paid extra for the replacement.
MOS Shop covers your replacement out the door with its lifetime guarantee. Something to look forward to.
This is where Mityvac has a +1 point under its score.
Product supports and assistance: +1 to the MityVac
Bathmate has its support forum. The question is, how extensive is the knowledge on that support forum? So many questions, but not a whole lot of answers. MityVac has its own videos, the entire brotherhood to support the product, and many users far exceeded Bathmate pumping populus. MityVac system is based on an evolution of systems since the 1960s. Bathmate hasn't been around that long and it's struggling to challenge the existing MityVac system.
The community here has enough mods and field tested the MityVac system more than Bathmate can ever hope to achieve. Bathmate even has support coming from this brotherhood on mods and field testing. I haven't see any modding coming from other communities yet. This brotherhood strive on safety and support on many products beside its own.
Okay, I'm done with my routines. Time to get ready for bed. Have fun tearing this discussion apart gents.
Last edited:
One thing that really got me thinking and made me put out the money for a new pump is the safety.. I recently got a lump on the penis which i am pretty sure is a not dangerous one after reading some more and watching some pictures online.. but well it got me thinking and i checked up on some max recomended pressures for pumping.
I have been ramping up the pressure so it feels very discomforting and im sweating and stuff and have very hard time (like torture) for my 5 minutes in the pump. I am that kind of person that just pushes through stuff and sometimes think you need some pain to gain.. But after reading the threads about the dangers of high pressure i was really taken aback and lucky that my lump dont seem to be anything dangerous. But it was surely a warning sign and thank good i got it in time!
