ManPlan86 Routine and Progress

ManPlan86 said:
Agreed. Curious to see what you and @oldandlively come up with. In my line of work, I come across different types of healthcare products and manufacturing supplies.

I have been snooping our manufacturing site to see if there is any type of containers that I can repurpose for a larger water trap.
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My colleagues provided the info to two optimized containerst that gone through various pressure tests and ready for usages. It bit high on prices.

The manufacturer for one has not gotten back to me for specific questions yet. Lower costs, but not enough info to be trusted yet:

I'm also requesting info on this as well, since we used this in the fields quite a bit back in the days. Pressure back the maxed out at 8inHg without over pressurizing the lungs. Nowadays, they're pushing even higher for collapsed lungs:

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Compared to what is commercially available vs your our own rigging, so far, our rigs are holding out quite well. 5 days of continuous vacuum pressurization at 15inHg, with usages in betwen, no issues. My total rig was $25. Adding time to mod and shop around, you can say it's $50.
 
ManPlan86 said:
@squirt_inducer_man or @oldandlively , I currently am using the 2" Mityvac Cylinder. I know pumping primarily is a girth growth endeavor, and the 2" gives me 1/2" to almost 3/4" expansion depending on how strong my erection is when pumping.

As my time is a bit more limited now to fit both manual stretching and pumping in, what are your thoughts on me purchasing and using a 1.75" cylinder for first couple of pumps for 5x5x3 to push length work, then last session switching to 2"?

Is this worthwhile or a dumb idea?
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When time is limited, it's a smart choice. 1.75in may be a short term wise choice to induce length if you're focusing mainly on pumping. I would even go as far as 2 pump sets in the 1.75in at higher pressure, follows by the 2in cylinder on the latter 2 pumps to induce girth at lower pressure. It's only another set but may be worth it. It's 60% length and 40% girth. I do this often to switch between girth and length routine to experiment for growth on both fronts. My wife notices any change immediately. Even I can't tell at a quick glance. That woman is amazing. So, an experimental routine goes like this:

Make sure you know what the max pressure in the smaller cylinder first. Different size cylinders have different pressure requirements.
  • SSJ before pumping to prime and warm the tissues.
  • Pump using 1.75in cylinder, go up to 1inHg below the max pressure for 2 minutes
  • Pump to max pressure for the rest of 3 minutes
  • Repeat for another set
Switch out cylinder:
  • Perform SSJ to max out any expansion ability
  • Go up to max inHg you've been using for the larger cylinder for 1 minutes, and perform creeping pressure to 0.5 to 1inHg above pressure for 10 seconds then back down to max pressure. Keep it up until you use up all 5 minutes
  • Repeat the 4th set, but you can cut back from 5 minutes to 2 minutes. Why? Your expansion already maxed out from the prior 3 sets.
Perform post C-ring restrictive work and wear ADS if you want. It will keep both the expansion and elongation going further. This will cut down the needs for more pumping, keep lengthening work going, and expansion healing continuous.
 
oldandlively said:
When time is limited, it's a smart choice. 1.75in may be a short term wise choice to induce length if you're focusing mainly on pumping. I would even go as far as 2 pump sets in the 1.75in at higher pressure, follows by the 2in cylinder on the latter 2 pumps to induce girth at lower pressure. It's only another set but may be worth it. It's 60% length and 40% girth. I do this often to switch between girth and length routine to experiment for growth on both fronts. My wife notices any change immediately. Even I can't tell at a quick glance. That woman is amazing. So, an experimental routine goes like this:

Make sure you know what the max pressure in the smaller cylinder first. Different size cylinders have different pressure requirements.
  • SSJ before pumping to prime and warm the tissues.
  • Pump using 1.75in cylinder, go up to 1inHg below the max pressure for 2 minutes
  • Pump to max pressure for the rest of 3 minutes
  • Repeat for another set
Switch out cylinder:
  • Perform SSJ to max out any expansion ability
  • Go up to max inHg you've been using for the larger cylinder for 1 minutes, and perform creeping pressure to 0.5 to 1inHg above pressure for 10 seconds then back down to max pressure. Keep it up until you use up all 5 minutes
  • Repeat the 4th set, but you can cut back from 5 minutes to 2 minutes. Why? Your expansion already maxed out from the prior 3 sets.
Perform post C-ring restrictive work and wear ADS if you want. It will keep both the expansion and elongation going further. This will cut down the needs for more pumping, keep lengthening work going, and expansion healing continuous.
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Perfect, so my training thought was not completely out of line.

I have been stuck right around 7.5" length at my max 10Hg in the 2" cylinder. My BPFSL is above 8" when warmed up, so I have a short term goal of hitting 8" during pumping and thinking the tighter cylinder might help get me there.

I definitely can plan an extra 10 minutes into my routine to complete a 5x5x4, cock ring after is my standard. Normally switch to ADS at 2-3 hours after cock ring usage.
 
By the way, if you want to experiment something in addition to the pumping as post pumping lengthening process. Since you're trying to force length and growth through pumping and ADS combo, rather than the LM due to restrictive time, I'll give a bit of a suggestion that may sound counter-intuitive.

For the first 40 to 60 minutes of wearing the ADS after the pumping, push your ADS wearing to 5lbs traction force. Work your way up to 7.5lbs of traction force. I'm currently doing this after my Length Master and pumping routines when I wear my ADS. Why the 5lbs traction force? I'm cranking the gap wide open after the invested time I put into my LM and pumping routines. Rather than 2 micrometer gaps, I'm forcing a 3 to 5 micrometers gap. This will signal the brain to send emergency repair and replication signals to the penis when there's available resources of good blood pooling in the penis during the post pumping routine. After the 40 or 60 minutes, reduce back to lower traction tension at 2.5lbs to prevent excessive turtling because of constant high traction tension.

By the way, you might consider the mod idea I've came up with existing materials that came with the SiliStretcher and what's laying around, either at your place, your parents', or your friends. No need to invest in extra things when there are so many junks already laying around the places.
 
ManPlan86 said:
@squirt_inducer_man or @oldandlively , I currently am using the 2" Mityvac Cylinder. I know pumping primarily is a girth growth endeavor, and the 2" gives me 1/2" to almost 3/4" expansion depending on how strong my erection is when pumping.

As my time is a bit more limited now to fit both manual stretching and pumping in, what are your thoughts on me purchasing and using a 1.75" cylinder for first couple of pumps for 5x5x3 to push length work, then last session switching to 2"?

Is this worthwhile or a dumb idea?
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For me trying to increase my length in a pump is a slow process. But it may work. But my belief is if you want length and are limited in time, only focus on length first and when you got all length, then transition to girth work.

Remember that bundled stretches especially, expressive bundled stretches will give you width as well.
 
oldandlively said:
For the first 40 to 60 minutes of wearing the ADS after the pumping, push your ADS wearing to 5lbs traction force.
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This makes sense to me, keeping the max expansion allowing for the gaps to be filled in and cell repair to be bigger.

Question - Should ADS go on immediately after pumping session along with a cock ring, or do you think cock ring for two hours and then switch to ADS?

Thinking if I can squeeze my expanded glans into the ADS, then maybe right after is best? May just be difficult to keep the blood cycling through every 5-10 minutes if I am strapped in the stretcher...
 
ManPlan86 said:
Question - Should ADS go on immediately after pumping session along with a cock ring, or do you think cock ring for two hours and then switch to ADS?
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Yes. I use both the ADS and the C-ring/cutout penis sleeves to restrict blood outflow back to the body right after the pumping routine. ADS keeps the elongation, while restrictive method at the base of the penis keeps the blood fueled for repair and duplication process. During this time, there is no continuous hard erection. Just an erection or kegel exercise to the blood into the penis. Nothing more. Do observe the fullness size and feeling even after 4 hours. It's crazy.

ManPlan86 said:
Thinking if I can squeeze my expanded glans into the ADS, then maybe right after is best? May just be difficult to keep the blood cycling through every 5-10 minutes if I am strapped in the stretcher...
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Squeeze all the blood out of the expanded glans. Then shove the glans into the vacuum cup. If you're using the 1.25in cup, it may be too small. I have to retire my 1.25in and switch over to 1.5in.

If you're using the 1.75in or 2in cylinder, you know your glans will fill up that vacuum cup after pumping into the 1.5in vacuum cup. You may even need the 2in vacuum cup soon the way you're growing. I have my 2in vacuum cup standing by as well the way I'm expanding.
 
oldandlively said:
Yes. I use both the ADS and the C-ring/cutout penis sleeves to restrict blood outflow back to the body right after the pumping routine. ADS keeps the elongation, while restrictive method at the base of the penis keeps the blood fueled for repair and duplication process. During this time, there is no continuous hard erection. Just an erection or kegel exercise to the blood into the penis. Nothing more. Do observe the fullness size and feeling even after 4 hours. It's crazy.


Squeeze all the blood out of the expanded glans. Then shove the glans into the vacuum cup. If you're using the 1.25in cup, it may be too small. I have to retire my 1.25in and switch over to 1.5in.

If you're using the 1.75in or 2in cylinder, you know your glans will fill up that vacuum cup after pumping into the 1.5in vacuum cup. You may even need the 2in vacuum cup soon the way you're growing. I have my 2in vacuum cup standing by as well the way I'm expanding.
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Just checked out at the MOS shop with a 1.75" Mityvac cylinder. Hopefully the Express shipping option gets it here by next week sometime!

I have a 1.5" vacuum cup, so I'll see what I can do. I have noticed lately my glans fits pretty snug, especially after a couple hours when I remove it to use the bathroom.

Looking forward to the day I am forced to upgrade, but I will see where I end up.

Will also check out your mod post later to see what I can do to up the traction force.
 
Wow. You're already snugged in the 1.5in vacuum cup. That's getting to be insane. I'm approaching to touch around the wall, but not fully yet. I'm not sure if 1.75in vacuum cup available. 2in will definitely be too loose and have higher chances of sliding off, or stressing out the sleeves too fast.
 
oldandlively said:
Wow. You're already snugged in the 1.5in vacuum cup. That's getting to be insane. I'm approaching to touch around the wall, but not fully yet. I'm not sure if 1.75in vacuum cup available. 2in will definitely be too loose and have higher chances of sliding off, or stressing out the sleeves too fast.
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If I squeeze the blood out it's not snug and fits easy, I think just the light vacuum gives a little bit of a blood draw into my glans over a few hours. I dont apply much of a vacuum and only turn the screw about 1/4 turn.

I have found I get less stress on the glans if I kegel a few times then pull the sleeve back a bit from the cup and push the air out the side. I think less air space in the vacuum cup has been helpful for long hours of usage.

I know the growth is happening, but each day I look down and it doesn't seem too much different so I just keep at it. Maybe outgrowing some of my existing equipment will be my realization of my true growth...
 
oldandlively said:
Yes. I use both the ADS and the C-ring/cutout penis sleeves to restrict blood outflow back to the body right after the pumping routine. ADS keeps the elongation, while restrictive method at the base of the penis keeps the blood fueled for repair and duplication process. During this time, there is no continuous hard erection. Just an erection or kegel exercise to the blood into the penis. Nothing more. Do observe the fullness size and feeling even after 4 hours. It's crazy.


Squeeze all the blood out of the expanded glans. Then shove the glans into the vacuum cup. If you're using the 1.25in cup, it may be too small. I have to retire my 1.25in and switch over to 1.5in.

If you're using the 1.75in or 2in cylinder, you know your glans will fill up that vacuum cup after pumping into the 1.5in vacuum cup. You may even need the 2in vacuum cup soon the way you're growing. I have my 2in vacuum cup standing by as well the way I'm expanding.
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Took your advice today, and went straight in to ADS with siliring at base after 5x5x3. It was a tight squeeze to get my glans into the vacuum cup!

Not sure how much tension weight I am getting pulling straight down my left leg down to just above my ankle. If I had to guess, maybe 3-4 lbs...that's just a gauge from hanging some weights in the past.

Using a standing work desk so I can keep the max tension.
 
View media item 2147Pushing just over 7.5" length today in 2" cylinder at 9Hg.

The new 1.75" cylinder should arrive today or tomorrow, and I will begin using it in first two pumps of 5x5x3 in anticipation of pushing pump length expansion to 8"+.

Had good girth expansion in 2" today, so also hoping that the 1.75" will round out my shape a bit as I think I will max the circumference pretty quickly in the 1.75".
 
oldandlively said:
Excellent glans expansion. Looks like you're topping out the 9in cylinder very soon. Need an 11in tall latte cylinder in the near future 😉
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Looking forward to the day I need to upgrade! I'm going to need to make some friends to pass my gear on to as I outgrow it.

Your comment has me thinking I should have purchased a longer 1.75" cylinder. My goal is to get to 8.5" bone pressed and cement a solid 8" length non bone pressed.
 
ManPlan86 said:
Looking forward to the day I need to upgrade! I'm going to need to make some friends to pass my gear on to as I outgrow it.

Your comment has me thinking I should have purchased a longer 1.75" cylinder. My goal is to get to 8.5" bone pressed and cement a solid 8" length non bone pressed.
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My son is looking at all the tools I have, and he has a big light bulb over his head. My daughter simply shook her head. My wife, well, she licks her chops. When my son needs it, I'll pass along the tools he needs after sterilizing the tools. He'll have an abundant amount of knowledge and tools at his command.

My penis has yet to cement at 7in length, and my aim is at 9in length NBPEL. This means I'm aiming for 9.5in or so BPEL. But always play smart and go 2in longer for length and 0.5in larger for girth for the reason of extension and expansion requirements during cementing phase. You want to solidify at 8.5in, your penis tissues need the hyper extension of 1.5in to maximize the tissue gap creation in the cylinder. This is why I have my 9in for now and 11in on standby. Better to have longer than not. We are slapping our DNAs silly and telling them to think again for not allowing us to grow bigger.
 
oldandlively said:
My son is looking at all the tools I have, and he has a big light bulb over his head. My daughter simply shook her head. My wife, well, she licks her chops. When my son needs it, I'll pass along the tools he needs after sterilizing the tools. He'll have an abundant amount of knowledge and tools at his command.

My penis has yet to cement at 7in length, and my aim is at 9in length NBPEL. This means I'm aiming for 9.5in or so BPEL. But always play smart and go 2in longer for length and 0.5in larger for girth for the reason of extension and expansion requirements during cementing phase. You want to solidify at 8.5in, your penis tissues need the hyper extension of 1.5in to maximize the tissue gap creation in the cylinder. This is why I have my 9in for now and 11in on standby. Better to have longer than not. We are slapping our DNAs sili and telling them to think again for not allowing us to grow bigger.
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Just to understand, are you saying if I want to cement 8.5", I should acieve 10.5" in pump which would require 11" length of cylinder?

Or, are you saying BPFSL should be 2" above desired cemented length?
 
ManPlan86 said:
Just to understand, are you saying if I want to cement 8.5", I should acieve 10.5" in pump which would require 11" length of cylinder?

Or, are you saying BPFSL should be 2" above desired cemented length?
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If you want to cement it at 8.5in, you need a cylinder that exceed the length by 2in. The reason is the needs for the tissues to be pulled further than 8.5in. If you want to cement a penis at 10.5in, you definitely want something into the 12in length cylinder. I have yet to see any cylinder going beyond 13in generally available on the market. I've seen a custom 16in one and nothing greater. The trick is to make sure you can keep on pulling the penis 1in to 1.5in beyond the state of cementing in the pump under vacuum pressure.

If you're using the Length Master, you need to pull far beyond the 1.5in the cementing length. Do you know that using the Length Master, you pull on average nearly 35% in additional length of your normal penis? If you have a 6in penis, that's a full 2.1in under tension. That's average.

So, to sum things up, if you want to cement at 8.5in BPEL, you need that 11in cylinder because you need to have it stretched under tension up to 10in. If you want 8.5in NBPEL, that's adding another 0.5in of the cylinder to compensate for your fat pad.
 
ManPlan86 said:
Looking forward to the day I need to upgrade! I'm going to need to make some friends to pass my gear on to as I outgrow it.

Your comment has me thinking I should have purchased a longer 1.75" cylinder. My goal is to get to 8.5" bone pressed and cement a solid 8" length non bone pressed.
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Getting a bigger cylinder is always a great day. Right now you look massive
 
oldandlively said:
If you want to cement it at 8.5in, you need a cylinder that exceed the length by 2in. The reason is the needs for the tissues to be pulled further than 8.5in. If you want to cement a penis at 10.5in, you definitely want something into the 12in length cylinder. I have yet to see any cylinder going beyond 13in generally available on the market. I've seen a custom 16in one and nothing greater. The trick is to make sure you can keep on pulling the penis 1in to 1.5in beyond the state of cementing in the pump under vacuum pressure.

If you're using the Length Master, you need to pull far beyond the 1.5in the cementing length. Do you know that using the Length Master, you pull on average nearly 35% in additional length of your normal penis? If you have a 6in penis, that's a full 2.1in under tension. That's average.

So, to sum things up, if you want to cement at 8.5in BPEL, you need that 11in cylinder because you need to have it stretched under tension up to 10in. If you want 8.5in NBPEL, that's adding another 0.5in of the cylinder to compensate for your fat pad.
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Ok, understood now and makes sense! Need to have the available length in the cylinder to get the level of pull required for cementing.

I couldn't handle a 10.5+ incher, I am no DLD!

My wife is already getting a little worried and I have not shared my final goal size with her. Unfortunately she has some medical things going on and combo of that and the medication means hardly any sex drive out of her. Sex maybe once a month, and the last time she was a bit nervous.

Regardless, it's my goal and I normally have to take care of things myself, so I am pushing forward!

I dont own a LM, yet... I enjoy pumping so seeing how far I can get there and then change approach and intensity when I hit the inevitable plateau. I think LM will be my reserve arsenal.
 
Pumping and manual stretching, you'll do fine. Strategic pumping is definitely the key. Your 1.75in cylinder will do the elongation that you're looking for. If that's the case, SSJ to prime the tissues, pump hard using the 1.75in cylinder to max out elongation before the expansion. If you can get the 3rd set out of the elongation, go for it. By that time, I'm not sure you can fit your penis in the 1.75in cylinder and have to use the 2in cylinder for expansion. I got a tickling feeling that after the elongation pump in the 1.75in cylinder, you might be hitting the top of your 2in cylinder sooner rather than later.
 
Okay, just something to think about. It dawned on me for some reason and I had to backtracked on your posts a bit. At 5in EG, your wife complained about having pain already, and of course, that killed her moods and definitely not yours. You're aiming for 6in EG, and I think you're going to truly kill her mood even further to some degrees. Sooooooo, I'm thinking about your routine to max your length using the pump:
  • SSJ for 5 minutes, creating an optimized malleabilty to your tissues, which also a great way to further warm up your tissues.
  • Pumping sets 1 to 5, 3 minutes each:
    • Use the 1.75in cylinder to pump up to its max pressure. I think you may be able to hit 8inHg without any issue. But do creep up from 5inHg to test. BUT, don't pull out your penis yet. Leave it. Just release the pressure to allow blood to cycle in. This is to prevent the cylinder from being overtightened on the 2nd set, causing your penis to get stuck as it elongates.
    • For any reason when your penis is stuck from going past the the last elongation length, use a little bit of oil like olive or coconut, or even Vaseline for the half latter portion of the penis shaft to the glans to promote sliding.
    • If your penis is not being choked to death by the cylinder on the second pump set, just release the pressure and do not take the penis out. Repump the penis back up on the 3rd, 4th, and 5th sets to max pressure, and creep for 10 seconds to 1inHg higher, then release for 30 seconds, and creap for 10 seconds, then release. Keep going until you use up the time.
  • If you want girth, the 4th and 5th set at max pressure for girth in the 2in cylinder for 5 minutes. SSJ in between
  • If you want further length, forgo the SSJ and go with the pump in the 1.75in cylinder. Do SSJ at the very end up to 10 minutes to remove any fluid.
It's always better to have move length when wife doesn't like to have sex, but you can spoon her while leaving your penis inside her while she sleeps. Works pretty well in getting my wife into the mood knowing she has to clamp her tight pussy all the time while she tries to sleep, making her hot and bothered. I need that extra 2 inches to be more effective getting past her lady bumps' padding.
 
oldandlively said:
Okay, just something to think about. It dawned on me for some reason and I had to backtracked on your posts a bit. At 5in EG, your wife complained about having pain already, and of course, that killed her moods and definitely not yours. You're aiming for 6in EG, and I think you're going to truly kill her mood even further to some degrees. Sooooooo, I'm thinking about your routine to max your length using the pump:
  • SSJ for 5 minutes, creating an optimized malleabilty to your tissues, which also a great way to further warm up your tissues.
  • Pumping sets 1 to 5, 3 minutes each:
    • Use the 1.75in cylinder to pump up to its max pressure. I think you may be able to hit 8inHg without any issue. But do creep up from 5inHg to test. BUT, don't pull out your penis yet. Leave it. Just release the pressure to allow blood to cycle in. This is to prevent the cylinder from being overtightened on the 2nd set, causing your penis to get stuck as it elongates.
    • For any reason when your penis is stuck from going past the the last elongation length, use a little bit of oil like olive or coconut, or even Vaseline for the half latter portion of the penis shaft to the glans to promote sliding.
    • If your penis is not being choked to death by the cylinder on the second pump set, just release the pressure and do not take the penis out. Repump the penis back up on the 3rd, 4th, and 5th sets to max pressure, and creep for 10 seconds to 1inHg higher, then release for 30 seconds, and creap for 10 seconds, then release. Keep going until you use up the time.
  • If you want girth, the 4th and 5th set at max pressure for girth in the 2in cylinder for 5 minutes. SSJ in between
  • If you want further length, forgo the SSJ and go with the pump in the 1.75in cylinder. Do SSJ at the very end up to 10 minutes to remove any fluid.
It's always better to have move length when wife doesn't like to have sex, but you can spoon her while leaving your penis inside her while she sleeps. Works pretty well in getting my wife into the mood knowing she has to clamp her tight pussy all the time while she tries to sleep, making her hot and bothered. I need that extra 2 inches to be more effective getting past her lady bumps' padding.
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Wow, really appreciate the insight and thoughtfulness on this post! Little bit more on my wife, and why I am not letting her recent negative comments distract me.

I dont think she has realized the extreme mood changes and lack of sex drive that she is experiencing, and if she has, she doesn't seem to understand the impact. She is not her usual self for almost a year at this point.

For unknown reasons, she has been experiencing long lasting vertigo and dizzy spells since June last year. Multiple Dr.s, physical therapy, vestibular specialist, ENT's etc. have not been able to help.

After 15 years of marriage and 3 kids, she put on more weight than she feels good about, and with the vertigo it nearly stopped her ability to physically active the last year.

Her primary put her on Phentermine end of last year and she is also now taking Topiramate.

Side effects and negative reviews I can find from people who have taken both align almost to exactly what I observe from her. Quick mood changes, lack of sex drive and painful sex, brain fog and disconnected, etc.

Initially I was internalizing a lot of what her behavior changes were thinking it was me, and was becoming pretty depressed about everything. At this point I am coming to terms with this being a season we will go through, and once we are through this I will present her with a glorious member I am proud of.

Sorry, long post but hopefully explains why I am not taking her input in to my equation with much weight right now. I think I could have no penis between my legs and it would still be met with a negative review by her right now.
 
Got it. Long lasting vertigo. Sounds like my old coworker's wife. If you have gone at length with the specialists, make sure to also check with the pathology specialists as well. Neurosciences advanced far in the field. My coworker's wife suffered Hepatitis B, with lessions and scarring on the of the liver cause abnormal growths throughout the body. Among that are spots (benign cancers) or lessions on the nerves and lymph nodes. Dizziness and vertigo were caused by this. Dryness and lack of libido caused by excessive energy drain from the body fighting back and repairing the lessions.

Of course, there may be something else. Too many factors being tossed into the mix in this crazy chemical-laden world. If you want to discuss more on this, we can. Otherwise, we'll refocus back on your PE.
 
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Got it. Long lasting vertigo. Sounds like my old coworker's wife. If you have gone at length with the specialists, make sure to also check with the pathology specialists as well. Neurosciences advanced far in the field. My coworker's wife suffered Hepatitis B, with lessions and scarring on the of the liver cause abnormal growths throughout the body. Among that are spots (benign cancers) or lessions on the nerves and lymph nodes. Dizziness and vertigo were caused by this. Dryness and lack of libido caused by excessive energy drain from the body fighting back and repairing the lessions.

Of course, there may be something else. Too many factors being tossed into the mix in this crazy chemical-laden world. If you want to discuss more on this, we can. Otherwise, we'll refocus back on your PE.
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She has seen a neurologist as well.

I'm good to leave her out of my progress log for now. Just didnt want to fail to capture the current state, since it is a part of what has demotivated me in the past but now motivates me more.

Also the brothers should know I am not a cold hearted bastard looking to make gains that the Mrs. wont enjoy.
 
Good pump session yesterday, really good expansion followed by C-ring and Silistretcher for remainder of the day.

Skipped pumping this morning and replaced with an extra hour of sleep. Only getting 5-6 hours recently and morning wood I think has suffered from just being so tired.

Ball and lig in the shower and some quick manual pulls BTC this morning, then straight in to silistretcher for the day.
 
ManPlan86 said:
Good pump session yesterday, really good expansion followed by C-ring and Silistretcher for remainder of the day.

Skipped pumping this morning and replaced with an extra hour of sleep. Only getting 5-6 hours recently and morning wood I think has suffered from just being so tired.

Ball and lig in the shower and some quick manual pulls BTC this morning, then straight in to silistretcher for the day.
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Good job!
 
oldandlively said:
Okay, just something to think about. It dawned on me for some reason and I had to backtracked on your posts a bit. At 5in EG, your wife complained about having pain already, and of course, that killed her moods and definitely not yours. You're aiming for 6in EG, and I think you're going to truly kill her mood even further to some degrees. Sooooooo, I'm thinking about your routine to max your length using the pump:
  • SSJ for 5 minutes, creating an optimized malleabilty to your tissues, which also a great way to further warm up your tissues.
  • Pumping sets 1 to 5, 3 minutes each:
    • Use the 1.75in cylinder to pump up to its max pressure. I think you may be able to hit 8inHg without any issue. But do creep up from 5inHg to test. BUT, don't pull out your penis yet. Leave it. Just release the pressure to allow blood to cycle in. This is to prevent the cylinder from being overtightened on the 2nd set, causing your penis to get stuck as it elongates.
    • For any reason when your penis is stuck from going past the the last elongation length, use a little bit of oil like olive or coconut, or even Vaseline for the half latter portion of the penis shaft to the glans to promote sliding.
    • If your penis is not being choked to death by the cylinder on the second pump set, just release the pressure and do not take the penis out. Repump the penis back up on the 3rd, 4th, and 5th sets to max pressure, and creep for 10 seconds to 1inHg higher, then release for 30 seconds, and creap for 10 seconds, then release. Keep going until you use up the time.
  • If you want girth, the 4th and 5th set at max pressure for girth in the 2in cylinder for 5 minutes. SSJ in between
  • If you want further length, forgo the SSJ and go with the pump in the 1.75in cylinder. Do SSJ at the very end up to 10 minutes to remove any fluid.
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1st session today with the 1.75" cylinder. Wow, felt great.

I did find it a little difficult to break up the sets staying in the cylinder, as releasing the pressure allowed air in and I always try to eliminate that.

What I ended up doing was working my way up to 8Hg during 1st set, then backed down down to 3-4 and rested, then back up, then down, etc..did this for about 15 minutes, then took a full rest and did SSJ for 5 minutes.

Expansion was really good, and I couldn't squeeze back in to the 1.75".

Used the 2" for a standard 5 minutes, then SSJ, and one more set of the same before C-ring and silistretcher.

The expansion I got from the 1.75" was better than I have been getting with just the 2" cylinder, even though I maxed out the 1.75" touching sides within the first two sets.
 
oldandlively said:
Found your attack routine.
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I sure hope so!

Will fine tune over the next week and update. I want to find that consistent sweet spot where I max out circumference and leave nowhere else but up/length to go.

I seemed to get about 1/4-3/8" more length measurement in the 2" cylinder, but I'm thinking that was due to a little more stretch in the skin at my base and throughout the shaft since less sticking to the sides.

I warmed up prior with some standard light jelqing and SSJ using vaseline and was still pretty greased up going in, but may need more lubrication or need to add more during the session.
 
Morning routine:

In front of space heater:
5 minutes Jelq
5 minutes SSJ

4 sets pumping over 30 minutes in 1.75" inch cylinder-Climb to 5Hg within first minute, creap up to 8Hg in second minute, stay at 8Hg for 3 minutes. Kegel and reverse Kegel during. Slow release back down to 3Hg and start again for next set.

Small rest with light massage, kegel and SSJ then 5th set with 2" cylinder for 4 minute creep up to 10Hg.

Rest and massage then 6th set just cause I wanted to experiment back to 1.75" cylinder after squeezing and massaging. Barely fit and had to go in semi erect.

6th set lasted 10 minutes, and got pressure up to 5Hg and then slow creeped for a minute up to 8Hg. Held 8Hg for a minute then slowly up to 9Hg for 30 seconds, back down to 8Hg for a minute, then continued the up to 9Hg and back down to 8Hg remainder of 10 minutes.

On the sixth set, I was the closest to 8" length I have been, just over 7.75". Coming out, I was super fat but not feeling any fluid retention.

Put on the C-ring and warmed down in the shower to get ready for work.

Silistretcher on for the day after shower.
 
ManPlan86 said:
Morning routine:

In front of space heater:
5 minutes Jelq
5 minutes SSJ

4 sets pumping over 30 minutes in 1.75" inch cylinder-Climb to 5Hg within first minute, creap up to 8Hg in second minute, stay at 8Hg for 3 minutes. Kegel and reverse Kegel during. Slow release back down to 3Hg and start again for next set.

Small rest with light massage, kegel and SSJ then 5th set with 2" cylinder for 4 minute creep up to 10Hg.

Rest and massage then 6th set just cause I wanted to experiment back to 1.75" cylinder after squeezing and massaging. Barely fit and had to go in semi erect.

6th set lasted 10 minutes, and got pressure up to 5Hg and then slow creeped for a minute up to 8Hg. Held 8Hg for a minute then slowly up to 9Hg for 30 seconds, back down to 8Hg for a minute, then continued the up to 9Hg and back down to 8Hg remainder of 10 minutes.

On the sixth set, I was the closest to 8" length I have been, just over 7.75". Coming out, I was super fat but not feeling any fluid retention.

Put on the C-ring and warmed down in the shower to get ready for work.

Silistretcher on for the day after shower.
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Excellent work my brother
 
Another good pumping session this morning.

I didnt have quite as much time today as yesterday, so left out one 5 minute session with the 2" cylinder today and stuck with the 1.75" for the routine.

Warmup in front of space heater:
5 minute Jelq
5 minute SSJs

Sessions 1-4:

1st built up vaccum to 5Hg, then slower creep over a minute up to 8Hg. Kegel and hold 8Hg for 4 minutes.

Discovered a little trick to tilt the water trap so only water returns back to pump cylinder, and kegel to get any air bubbles in the line back into the trap. A little tricky, but seemed to work well with no air being introduced back in to the cylinder for pumps 2-4.

Released vaccum down to just under 3Hg, rest a couple minutes with light Kegels and then back up to 8Hg for 4 minutes. Repeated this for session 3 and 4.

Took a 5 minute massage and light SSJ break after session 4 in front of the heater. Noted some thicker harder veins below the glans, so massaged that area out to where I could hardly feel them.

Session 5 still with 1.75". Built up vacuum to 5Hg, then creep to 8Hg. Hold 8Hg for a minute, then up to 9Hg for 20-30 seconds, back down to 8Hg for a minute, then back up to 9Hg for 20-30 seconds. Continued this for 10 minutes until slow release of vaccum at end of 10 minutes then C-ring on.

Hot shower warm down, Silistretcher on for the day and off to work.
 
Very nice. Make sure to always pay attention to the expansion afterwards, and a few hours later. You'll notice considerable changes from the unique dynamic pumping over the weeks.
 
oldandlively said:
Very nice. Make sure to always pay attention to the expansion afterwards, and a few hours later. You'll notice considerable changes from the unique dynamic pumping over the weeks.
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These measurements are necessary to know if your getting expansion
 
Squeezed in an air pump today after work.

1.75" cylinder
C Jelq and massage, light stretching with vaseline to warm up

5 minutes at 8Hg
Rest, massage and jelq for 3 minutes
5 minutes alternating 8-9.5 Hg

I dont air pump often, but time was tight and I wanted a little boost to go in to the evening.

C-ring on with frequent kegels and squeezes to keep blood fresh and flowing. Edging at the hour mark and plan to keep C-ring on another couple hours until bed.
 
ManPlan86 said:
Squeezed in an air pump today after work.

1.75" cylinder
C Jelq and massage, light stretching with vaseline to warm up

5 minutes at 8Hg
Rest, massage and jelq for 3 minutes
5 minutes alternating 8-9.5 Hg

I dont air pump often, but time was tight and I wanted a little boost to go in to the evening.

C-ring on with frequent kegels and squeezes to keep blood fresh and flowing. Edging at the hour mark and plan to keep C-ring on another couple hours until bed.
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If you are looking for a healthy alternative to Vaseline, organic shea butter or coconut oil are good substitutes.
 
Shea butter is thicker and smoother than coconut oil, similar to Vaseline. Coconut oil can be a bit rougher on the components since you still have micro fines causing pressure seal gap. As long as you use the fluid trap, it should be fine for either.
 
Haursen said:
If you are looking for a healthy alternative to Vaseline, organic shea butter or coconut oil are good substitutes.
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Very good substitutes. Vaseline will give better lube for the length it lasts but these other creams are very good you just need to apply more often
 
ManPlan86 said:
Another good pumping session this morning.

I didnt have quite as much time today as yesterday, so left out one 5 minute session with the 2" cylinder today and stuck with the 1.75" for the routine.

Warmup in front of space heater:
5 minute Jelq
5 minute SSJs

Sessions 1-4:

1st built up vaccum to 5Hg, then slower creep over a minute up to 8Hg. Kegel and hold 8Hg for 4 minutes.

Discovered a little trick to tilt the water trap so only water returns back to pump cylinder, and kegel to get any air bubbles in the line back into the trap. A little tricky, but seemed to work well with no air being introduced back in to the cylinder for pumps 2-4.

Released vaccum down to just under 3Hg, rest a couple minutes with light Kegels and then back up to 8Hg for 4 minutes. Repeated this for session 3 and 4.

Took a 5 minute massage and light SSJ break after session 4 in front of the heater. Noted some thicker harder veins below the glans, so massaged that area out to where I could hardly feel them.

Session 5 still with 1.75". Built up vacuum to 5Hg, then creep to 8Hg. Hold 8Hg for a minute, then up to 9Hg for 20-30 seconds, back down to 8Hg for a minute, then back up to 9Hg for 20-30 seconds. Continued this for 10 minutes until slow release of vaccum at end of 10 minutes then C-ring on.

Hot shower warm down, Silistretcher on for the day and off to work.
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Same session today as quoted, minus the hot shower warm down as it mid morning.

A little challenged starting fully erect today, starting girth 4 3/4" and final girth 5 3/8".

Tomorrow will be an off day for my wedding anniversary unless I can sneak in a quick pump session.
 
I have not updated my progress log in a month!

I have been traveling for work and a family trip over the 4th of July holiday so my daily consistency and focus has been a bit out of whack. Also still having some marriage challenges so been feeling a little bummed out.

Despite the schedule conflicts and not always feeling the best about myself, I have got pumping in 3-4 times/week, plus manual hand stretching and sillistretcher as much as possible.

Time to celebrate achieving a milestone goal and recognize my personal progress. I hit 8" in the 1.75" which is up almost half an inch from early June!
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Over 3 weeks since last post. I need to be better than that! Had a week+ long break from pumping and any serious routine while on vacation with my family. I wore a silisleeve everyday and did piss pulls and 30 second ball and lig stretches most days over the 9 days of vacation.

Been back at it for the last 10 days, pumping 3-4 days in the morning and with silistretcher on for remainder of day, then taking a day off with just a silisleeve all day and some stretching + ball and lig.

I feel like the break helped improve my EQ quite a bit, but now struggling a little to get full hard, maybe getting to 80% during workouts and running out of steam towards the end of my workouts. As a Christian, I avoid the naked people stuff as much as possible.

I also took some erect measurements this morning preworkout and I seem to have lost a little girth from 5", maybe a quarter inch but picked up about a quarter inch in erect length. Not sure if that translates to lose some to gain some or what?... Last time I tried sex with my wife a month+ ago she said girth was a bit much for her, so I guess I'm ok with pushing length for now as that is my plan with 1 3/4" MityVac cylinder so seems to be working on slowing girth and pushing length.

Measurement at hardest erect I could get was girth just over 4 and 3/4" and bone pressed erect length at about 7 3/8".

I think some of my EQ issues might be in my head, as not much if any love coming from my wife lately. I have failed to mention that I did about 90 days prior of a libido booster supplement and not sure it helped too much or not. On a two week break from it as recommended on the bottle and just started this week taking a horny goat weed supplement to see if that helps with EQ and the lack of morning erections.
 
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