Length gains

Genetics. PE is enhancing what you have as a product of the software encoded in your DNA. It does not guarantee you a certain amount of growth.

2 humans can follow the same exercise patterns since age 15, by the time they are 30 years old they would not have grown the same amount.

In order to grow either unlimited or a fixed amount, you need to alter or re-write a specific sentence in the software. Add a new instruction to the sequence. Thats genetics.
 
Most likely because they didn’t put the time in. It took me 10 years to get where I am and I went well be on 2 inches. I think most people only desire to make one or 2 inch gains.
 
Most likely because they didn’t put the time in. It took me 10 years to get where I am and I went well be on 2 inches. I think most people only desire to make one or 2 inch gains.

With 2 more I would be around the 11" mark, Id take that any day and think of retirement.
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Most likely because they didn’t put the time in. It took me 10 years to get where I am and I went well be on 2 inches. I think most people only desire to make one or 2 inch gains.

Agreed. Most men make some newbie gains, that first inch or so. Then it starts to actually take WORK and consistency for more gains and they lose their motivation and quit.
 
Yes and Ive been stuck in there for many years... (loudlycrying)
Thats why I have been putting so much research on some novel procedures before I hang myself from the ceiling trying to make the snake grow

P.S. Hang myself from the phallic pipe, not from the neck LOL

I’d rather be stuck at nine in stock at five LOL
 
Yes and Ive been stuck in there for many years... (loudlycrying)
Thats why I have been putting so much research on some novel procedures before I hang myself from the ceiling trying to make the snake grow

P.S. Hang myself from the phallic pipe, not from the neck LOL

You are very lucky. I'm struggling to get to 9 inches.
 
You can make it brother! Lets work as a team. You pull mine and I pull yours (cwl)(cwl)(cwl)

Lol. Did you use any PE device for length? What was your starting size and routine and also how long did it take you to get to 9?
 
In my early days I used to hang erected. Then as years passed, I did only manual stretches, a lot of jelquing. Then during 2011-2012 I used a traction device and PGE-1. I think ultimately thats what made me reach 9, but at the same time my girth skyrocketed from 5.1-5.2 to 6.25 in one year which most probably limited my length potential :(

Starting size since it was late 90's as experimentation, I would say somewhere around 7" and girth definitely around 5"
 
In my early days I used to hang erected. Then as years passed, I did only manual stretches, a lot of jelquing. Then during 2011-2012 I used a traction device and PGE-1. I think ultimately thats what made me reach 9, but at the same time my girth skyrocketed from 5.1-5.2 to 6.25 in one year which most probably limited my length potential :(

Starting size since it was late 90's as experimentation, I would say somewhere around 7" and girth definitely around 5"


Wonderful I must say. For how long did you use the traction device and the pge1 stuff?
 
You can make it brother! Lets work as a team. You pull mine and I pull yours (cwl)(cwl)(cwl)

Teamwork always works that’s why it’s so important to be involved with the brotherhood. We can help you stay on track while you help us stay on track, it’s a reciprocal relationship.
 
Wonderful I must say. For how long did you use the traction device and the pge1 stuff?

Traction device I was using it for about 6-7 hours a day.
With the PGE-1 is more complex and I dont encourage anybody to try this because IT IS dangerous. It turns out with PGE-1 I am EXTREMELY sensitive to it. Is one of the rare side effects on the population. That means I can very easily get priapism with it. In fact, even though I was in adult entertainment I never used it for that due to the risk of not being able to properly measure and end up in the ER as it has happened to other pornstars with my dick full of needles. For adult entertainment I would use Viagra when needed.

Anyways, the first time I had the chance to try PGE-1 I injected the minimum medical dose of 2.5mcg. My dick stayed hard as a steel pipe for 7 hours. At the 7 hour mark the erection slowly started to subside. The pain was excruciating. I was panicking in my bedroom debating to go to the ER, but I had NO IDEA how to walk out with a pipe sticking out in so much pain that even taking a step was painful like if somebody was sticking knives in my penis. But like I said eventually after 7 hours started to go down.

Over time I discovered that injecting 0.3-0.5 mcg which is pretty much a couple of drops on a slin pin before going to bed, it gives me an erection the whole night. When I wake up in the morning to pee, it goes down immediately.

This scenario ended up working perfectly. Because scientific studies have proven penile growth smooth muscle tissue when using PGE-1 to create an erection of 6-7 hours every day for months.

And thats exactly what it did. My girth grew 1 full inch in one year and my length even though I didn't kept a measure before that, I think it is what pushed me to 9.

HOWEVER, thats the end of that chapter. In my honest opinion that fast growth was only in girth because I was not having septum growth. Since the penis couldnt expand forward, it expanded sideways. AND, the curve became more pronounced.

Thats why the new step is to somehow literally destroy the fucking septum and force it to heal stretched out at least 2-3 more inches that way theres enough space for internal expansion.
 
Traction device I was using it for about 6-7 hours a day.
With the PGE-1 is more complex and I dont encourage anybody to try this because IT IS dangerous. It turns out with PGE-1 I am EXTREMELY sensitive to it. Is one of the rare side effects on the population. That means I can very easily get priapism with it. In fact, even though I was in adult entertainment I never used it for that due to the risk of not being able to properly measure and end up in the ER as it has happened to other pornstars with my dick full of needles. For adult entertainment I would use Viagra when needed.

Anyways, the first time I had the chance to try PGE-1 I injected the minimum medical dose of 2.5mcg. My dick stayed hard as a steel pipe for 7 hours. At the 7 hour mark the erection slowly started to subside. The pain was excruciating. I was panicking in my bedroom debating to go to the ER, but I had NO IDEA how to walk out with a pipe sticking out in so much pain that even taking a step was painful like if somebody was sticking knives in my penis. But like I said eventually after 7 hours started to go down.

Over time I discovered that injecting 0.3-0.5 mcg which is pretty much a couple of drops on a slin pin before going to bed, it gives me an erection the whole night. When I wake up in the morning to pee, it goes down immediately.

This scenario ended up working perfectly. Because scientific studies have proven penile growth smooth muscle tissue when using PGE-1 to create an erection of 6-7 hours every day for months.

And thats exactly what it did. My girth grew 1 full inch in one year and my length even though I didn't kept a measure before that, I think it is what pushed me to 9.

HOWEVER, thats the end of that chapter. In my honest opinion that fast growth was only in girth because I was not having septum growth. Since the penis couldnt expand forward, it expanded sideways. AND, the curve became more pronounced.

Thats why the new step is to somehow literally destroy the fucking septum and force it to heal stretched out at least 2-3 more inches that way theres enough space for internal expansion.


Thanks for the well detailed info. I will never try it anyway .
 
It gets scary. I had a couple of episodes like that in the process. When you get to that point of debating if going to the ER or not is horrible. And no matter how many times you jerk off that things stays there at a 120% erection. Harder than you've ever been before. The internal blood pressure is so much that the hardness of the whole structure even bothers your anus. Im not kidding. Thats where the pain comes from because a natural normal erection fluctuates in hardness. You will never stay 100% erected on a sexual intercourse. When you change positions decrease to 99% for example. You penetrate again goes up to 100. You thrust too hard for too long and you start losing the erection, etc. The tissues are designed that way. But with this thing the erection is 120% CONSTANT. No variation.
 
Am I allowed to post a picture of my cock here to show my curve?

Yes you can post a picture of your penis LOL the rules here are no XXX. If your pictures pertain to penis enlargement, you’re fine and it’s completely appropriate to post pictures. I actually encourage it because it gives so much motivation to new people ?
 
Great feedback, and would have been interesting to say the least, how it would have been when fucking with that rock solid granite cock (cwl)

You may also like this thread, discussing about controlled priapism to induce size gains


Yes I have read that thread before! Good thread. Some people were trying to find the way to induce megalophallus but unfortunately that is related to sickle cell anemia and usually that dinosaur megalithic phallic apparatus does not work. Is the product of permanent tissue damage.

Inducing priapism through clamping is not healthy either since you're trapping blood, and is not necessarily increasing blood pressure. PGE-1 on the other hand does. It relaxes the arteries in the CC's allowing more blood to come in than what is able to go out. Therefore creating huge expansion and huge internal blood pressure.
 
Of course this is strictly for PE purposes, and I think is useful to other people to understand what happens when your penis try to grow while the septum/tunica is limiting that.

This is my POV. As you can see, I have a curve to the right. ALSO, besides the curve, my penis is slightly twisted counterclockwise. But looking from the front towards me it would be twisted counterclockwise. Which I think is related to the curve, and here is why.

If you look at the left side of my shaft, left CC, is WAY longer than the right side. The curve doesnt look that produced, because is not peyronies, is just a curve, BUT, if you measure the left side from base to tip is way longer than the right side from base to tip.

If I was able to enlarge the right CC to match the left side I think I would add some good extra length. HOWEVER, that cannot happen. BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING SEPTUM. If I exercise the right CC alone to match the left side, I WILL GAIN EVEN MORE GIRTH, because the penis is unable to keep growing forward (length) due to the limiting factor, Septum.

I will try to add another picture later, because at around the same point where the curve is to the right, it also goes a little bit upwards at the same point. A picture looking straight from the front will show that.

IN MY OPINION, if I find a way to stretch these tissues and finally unlock growth of the septum and tunica, I would be able to finally make very good length gains. I am currently trying a routine consisting on stretches with IMMENSE force. I wanna give it a try for at least a couple of months to see if there is even the slightest change and take it from there.
 
Of course this is strictly for PE purposes, and I think is useful to other people to understand what happens when your penis try to grow while the septum/tunica is limiting that.

This is my POV. As you can see, I have a curve to the right. ALSO, besides the curve, my penis is slightly twisted counterclockwise. But looking from the front towards me it would be twisted counterclockwise. Which I think is related to the curve, and here is why.

If you look at the left side of my shaft, left CC, is WAY longer than the right side. The curve doesnt look that produced, because is not peyronies, is just a curve, BUT, if you measure the left side from base to tip is way longer than the right side from base to tip.

If I was able to enlarge the right CC to match the left side I think I would add some good extra length. HOWEVER, that cannot happen. BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING SEPTUM. If I exercise the right CC alone to match the left side, I WILL GAIN EVEN MORE GIRTH, because the penis is unable to keep growing forward (length) due to the limiting factor, Septum.

I will try to add another picture later, because at around the same point where the curve is to the right, it also goes a little bit upwards at the same point. A picture looking straight from the front will show that.

IN MY OPINION, if I find a way to stretch these tissues and finally unlock growth of the septum and tunica, I would be able to finally make very good length gains. I am currently trying a routine consisting on stretches with IMMENSE force. I wanna give it a try for at least a couple of months to see if there is even the slightest change and take it from there.


Unbelievable! ??The perspective in which she was taking the photo makes it look like it’s three feet long! ? Very inspirational and I think you for your courage and posting a picture of yourself.
 
Unbelievable! ??The perspective in which she was taking the photo makes it look like it’s three feet long! ? Very inspirational and I think you for your courage and posting a picture of yourself.

Well, I took the pic myself standing in the bathroom just looking down with my phone LOL.
I would post pics anytime if needed. After all, my movies are still everywhere in the net.
 
Well, I took the pic myself standing in the bathroom just looking down with my phone LOL.
I would post pics anytime if needed. After all, my movies are still everywhere in the net.

Well you made your 9 inch penis look like it was 18 inches so you may be a really good director on the set of adult films. If you can make 9 inches look like 18 inches you can take a 5 incher I make it look like the ten incher LOL
 
How come most PE’rs gain at most 1.5-2 inches and very few gain more than that?

I think because it’s more then they believed they could gain. So most are happy with 1.5-2” and can’t justify the commitment for additional gains.
1.5-2” if pretty damn good and those that get there put in some serious effort.

I personally always seem to think the 3” number seems magical. That puts you in the minority of gainers yet it has been done enough that you know it’s achievable.
 
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PE is work, plain and simple. Jackxxx has gone to (what I'd consider) more extreme lengths to achieve his gains, and I'm certain many wouldn't have 'the stomach' for it...I know I don't, lol. Kudos to him, tho.

I'm in the very 'pedestrian' group of 2" gained, (but still trying to find that elusive 'key' to get to 9"), so those that have gone beyond have my utmost respect
 
PE is work, plain and simple. Jackxxx has gone to (what I'd consider) more extreme lengths to achieve his gains, and I'm certain many wouldn't have 'the stomach' for it...I know I don't, LOL. Kudos to him, tho.

I'm in the very 'pedestrian' group of 2" gained, (but still trying to find that elusive 'key' to get to 9"), so those that have gone beyond have my utmost respect

Well, if you achieved 2", you dont really need to go to those more extreme lengths LOL
Congrats man!!!
Are you still gaining or do your gains have stopped?
 
2" more would be like reward for most men around the world ? ..it's hard to get those 2" let alone another inch extra

2 inches is probably close to the average most men make that stick around long enough. I made a 2 inch again in six months so I know it’s possible.
 
2 inches is probably close to the average most men make that stick around long enough. I made a 2 inch again in six months so I know it’s possible.

That is awesome!! What do you think was the cause of the gains to slow down?
 
That is awesome!! What do you think was the cause of the gains to slow down?

I think it’s just the nature of the game as you gain more and more it becomes more difficult to add to that because you need to come up with more and more intense workouts, exercises and tools. So my second 2 inches took me another 9 years?
 
4' in total??
If I could add 4 I would reach 13..
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2 inches is probably close to the average most men make that stick around long enough. I made a 2 inch again in six months so I know it’s possible.
It's possible to get but not easy ?. It may take some men 1 year or 2 to get those 2 inches, so they are not welling for an other hard ass 1 year .. I personally well not ask for more length if I manage to get those two inches which is hard and I'm lazy ass ? ..
 
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It's possible to get but not easy ?. It may take some men 1 year or 2 to get those 2 inches, so they are not welling for an other hard ass 1 year .. I personally well not ask for more length if I manage to get those two inches which is hard and I'm lazy ass ? ..

No one is as lazy as me believe me LOL if my lazy ass can gain 4 inches someone who has motivation can gain eight LOL
 
Of course this is strictly for PE purposes, and I think is useful to other people to understand what happens when your penis try to grow while the septum/tunica is limiting that.

This is my POV. As you can see, I have a curve to the right. ALSO, besides the curve, my penis is slightly twisted counterclockwise. But looking from the front towards me it would be twisted counterclockwise. Which I think is related to the curve, and here is why.

If you look at the left side of my shaft, left CC, is WAY longer than the right side. The curve doesnt look that produced, because is not peyronies, is just a curve, BUT, if you measure the left side from base to tip is way longer than the right side from base to tip.

If I was able to enlarge the right CC to match the left side I think I would add some good extra length. HOWEVER, that cannot happen. BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING SEPTUM. If I exercise the right CC alone to match the left side, I WILL GAIN EVEN MORE GIRTH, because the penis is unable to keep growing forward (length) due to the limiting factor, Septum.

I will try to add another picture later, because at around the same point where the curve is to the right, it also goes a little bit upwards at the same point. A picture looking straight from the front will show that.

IN MY OPINION, if I find a way to stretch these tissues and finally unlock growth of the septum and tunica, I would be able to finally make very good length gains. I am currently trying a routine consisting on stretches with IMMENSE force. I wanna give it a try for at least a couple of months to see if there is even the slightest change and take it from there.

Hey Jackxxx.... for your curve, did that become induced with PE? I haven’t been on the site forever, so I’m not sure if you PE’ed for years, or if it’s a recent thing to add a little.

Anyways, I got a Bathmate on Black Friday. I put up a picture in the member’s only section (picture proof) because I did not remember rules for posting pictures (I have a separate thread in the Bathmate forum).

My dick is slightly twisted too, the same direction yours is. It’s only visible from the underneath side of my dick when looking at the median raphe. Looking top down you can’t tell. However, when I pump, I appear to get good to great expansion of the left side of my dick... and only so-so to sometimes good expansion of the right side. After a great session, the left side is visibly larger than the right, and when flaccid I have a right curve (it goes away after a few hours... back to normal). I have fears it I keep pumping, this asymmetrical change will worsen and I’ll wind up with a right curve like yours.... Now, if I were to have a monster dick like yours, then maybe that wouldn’t be bad!... but I’m fearful I gain a little length, and a moderate curve.
 
Hey Jackxxx.... for your curve, did that become induced with PE? I haven’t been on the site forever, so I’m not sure if you PE’ed for years, or if it’s a recent thing to add a little.

Anyways, I got a Bathmate on Black Friday. I put up a picture in the member’s only section (picture proof) because I did not remember rules for posting pictures (I have a separate thread in the Bathmate forum).

My dick is slightly twisted too, the same direction yours is. It’s only visible from the underneath side of my dick when looking at the median raphe. Looking top down you can’t tell. However, when I pump, I appear to get good to great expansion of the left side of my dick... and only so-so to sometimes good expansion of the right side. After a great session, the left side is visibly larger than the right, and when flaccid I have a right curve (it goes away after a few hours... back to normal). I have fears it I keep pumping, this asymmetrical change will worsen and I’ll wind up with a right curve like yours.... Now, if I were to have a monster dick like yours, then maybe that wouldn’t be bad!... but I’m fearful I gain a little length, and a moderate curve.

I just read the whole thread and see you PE’d for a few years to gain your 2”, congrats! Please let me know if that right curve was there before PE.... thanks again @Jackxxx
 
I just read the whole thread and see you PE’d for a few years to gain your 2”, congrats! Please let me know if that right curve was there before PE.... thanks again @Jackxxx

You dont have to worry my friend, I always had the curve. Now, in my opinion, the fact that I cannot grow my septum but I have been able to increase girth, it slightly made the curve a little more pronounced.

In your case since you're new to PE, make sure to incorporate a lot of jelqing and length exercises to force that tunica to grow even.
 
Curves makes cocks look so much bigger than they are, IMO.
 
Curves makes cocks look so much bigger than they are, IMO.

TRUE. And I actually have come to realize a while ago that a curve is VERY intimidating to a girl. In their logic, if a dick has a curve is because is so big that it started growing bent. Kinda like a tree. A little tree is straight as an arrow but as it grows taller and taller it bends and branches spread out.
 
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TRUE. And I actually have come to realize a while ago that a curve is VERY intimidating to a girl. In their logic, if a dick has a curve is because is so big that it started growing bent. Kinda like a tree. A little tree is straight as an arrow but as it grows taller and taller it bends and branches spread out.

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Haven’t been around here very long, but here is a question... has anyone ever considered the average or realistic % gain vs starting size?

I myself say “ I want to gain 1.5-2 inches in length and 1 inch in girth. The % Of increase looks much different based on starting size... 5 “ start would mean 40% increase in length where as 7” start would only mean 28% increase in length. It may be an Interesting study which could truly help people from setting unrealistic goals, getting frustrated and then quitting-which is a shame cause I think this forum has proven you can have a bigger cock.

At 5.25” start, i’d love to get 8”... but in reality 6.5 to maybe 7 would be more realistic. Thoughts? Feedback?

...all you ambassadors are tremendous! Looking forward to gains!
 
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