Progress thread Haursen's Comeback

12/7/24

Morning Wood is Back! 🌳

Hey PE troopers,

Quick update: After a bit of a dry spell, my morning wood made a triumphant return today! 🌄 Feels great to wake up with a little extra motivation, if you know what I mean.

Here’s to staying consistent and trusting the process. Keep growing, fellas! 💪

Cheers,

Haur
 
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Haursen said:
12/7/24

Morning Wood is Back! 🌳

Hey PE fam,

Quick update: After a bit of a dry spell, my morning wood made a triumphant return today! 🌄 Feels great to wake up with a little extra motivation, if you know what I mean.

Here’s to staying consistent and trusting the process. Keep growing, fellas! 💪

Cheers,

Haur
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Amen 🙏🏽
 
We all face trials by fire brother. However, God's fire is to refine you. I've gone through many of those trials by His fire as well, and he refined me quite a bit. I'm still not as refined as He wanted me to be, but I'm quite stronger and tougher because of those trials by fire. He will reward you like he did with the forefathers which underwent the same trials of Godly fire before us. Always know He loves you and his Holy Spirit dwells in your heart.
 
Sexy Saturday... More Like Stressy Saturday 😞

Good morning, PE crew,

Well, Sexy Saturday was a total flop. My wife brought up some family issues (as if that wasn’t enough), and then we transitioned to tech troubles. By the time the "discussion marathon" ended, my focus was shot, and let’s just say my lingam wasn’t interested in clocking in for work. Even pumping didn't help. 😔

Sometimes life throws curveballs, even on Sexy Saturday. Hoping for a better experience next time.

Cheers,

H
 
oldandlively said:
We all face trials by fire brother. However, God's fire is to refine you. I've gone through many of those trials by His fire as well, and he refined me quite a bit. I'm still not as refined as He wanted me to be, but I'm quite stronger and tougher because of those trials by fire. He will reward you like he did with the forefathers which underwent the same trials of Godly fire before us. Always know He loves you and his Holy Spirit dwells in your heart.
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Amen
I hope all brothers pray for all in the brotherhood. God is very attentive to our needs and desires
 
12-9-24

It’s Length Week! 🚀

Good morning, PE crew! 🌞

I hope you’re all waking up to good vibes and steady progress. I feel extra optimistic today because I got 8 hours and 1 minute of sleep. And guess what? Morning Wood made a 4/5 comeback! 🌳💪

Length Week: Stretch It Like You Mean It 🎵​

This week, it’s all about length, strength, and hanging with the big boys. (See what I did there?) 😉

The idea hit me: why not bring in the heavy artillery instead of my usual Celestial Stretch?

It’s inspired by my trusty Thunderbolt Magnum Solar 12V 35Ah Universal Battery, which weighs in at a hefty 43-45 pounds.

Enter…the Ah-mazing Hang!

Ah-mazing Hang (Get it? 35Ah!) 😏

And yes, this exercise is as intense as it sounds. ⚠️ (WARNING: Advanced PE-ers only!)

The Routine: A "Weighty" Experience 🏋️‍♂️​

I broke the hang into 6-minute sets to keep it fresh and effective:
  1. Straight Down: Bundled left & right for that extra twist.
  2. BTC (Between the Cheeks): Chair-assisted (literally standing on the chair), no bundle (because, ouch—glans said nope).
  3. Celestial Stretch: Straight out, bundled left & right, with bonus pelvic tugs or gyrations.
Results? My ligs felt like they’d been through an intergalactic tug-of-war. The Ah-mazing Hang and Celestial Stretch combo delivered the intense pull I was aiming for. 🚀

Recovery: Heal Thy Lingam 🦋​

After all that stretching, my lingam demanded TLC. So, I gave it the full 12-minute Lumebox treatment. The red light worked its healing powah, helping me bounce back. To seal the deal, I applied a mix of castor oil and hydrocortisone (yes, you read that right), then wrapped up with my trusty all-day wrap.

Dad Joke of the Day:​

Why don’t weights ever take a vacation?
Because they can’t handle being off balance! 😂

Inspirational Quote:​

"Growth is painful. Change is painful. But nothing is as painful as staying stuck where you don’t belong." – N. R. Narayana Murthy

To the Married Men:​

Fellas, remember: PE isn’t just for you. It’s for her, too. Let it enhance your bond and bless your marriage bed. Your lingam belongs to your wife and your wife alone—loyalty is sexy, and commitment is king. 💖

Stay consistent, stay humble, and keep hanging in there (literally).

Cheers,

H
 
Excellent update. Love the inspirational quote and Dad 😃 joke
 
12-10-24: Rest Day Reflections: Fun, Flexibility, and 4.5 Morning Wood! 🌞

Good evening , PE crew!

Ah, rest days—where gains are solidified and the body gives you a big thumbs-up. 👍 Last night, I had 7 hours and 8 minutes of blissful sleep, and guess what? Morning wood made an epic appearance at a solid 4.5/5. I couldn’t believe it! 😲
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The Catalyst for the Wood Phenomenon 🌳

I think I owe this woodsy miracle to Dr. Andrew Huberman’s podcast featuring Dr. Kelly Starrett. They talked about mobility, the pelvic floor, and how spending time on the floor can do wonders for your body.

So, when I got home from work, I rolled out a mat and got to work:

Sat on the floor to make my protein shake.

Drank my magnesium while seated.

Did some animal-inspired movements like the monkey, frog, and 90/90 stretches to loosen up my hips.


It felt playful and refreshing—like I was tapping into some primal energy! The way Huberman emphasized the importance of pelvic floor health has got me really curious about diving deeper into this area. If it leads to better erections, count me in!
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The "Fun Factor" Philosophy 🎉

This got me thinking: “Am I having fun?” and “How can I make this more fun?” Whether it’s PE, bouncing on my rebounder, or doing mobility work, I’m taking the approach of playfulness. Why grind through a routine when you can enjoy the journey? So, let’s keep asking ourselves:

Is this fun?

How can I make this fun or playful?

A little laughter and lightheartedness go a long way!
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Dad Joke of the Day:

Why did the hip get invited to all the parties?

Because it’s always so hip with movement! 🕺
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Inspirational Quote:

"Take care of your body. It's the only place you have to live." – Jim Rohn

Here’s to rest, recovery, and rediscovering the joy in all we do. Stay playful, PE enthusiasts, and let’s keep growing—mind, body, and soul.

Cheers,

H
 
Good Morning!

I'm back!

Have you heard of the Hero's Journey? I feel like I've been on one during my time away—especially with my PE training. If not, you can look at THIS example because I feel like I have been on a hero's journey regarding PE and life.

Where Have You Been?

Life has been very challenging—about 10 times more challenging than usual! :LOL: I'm still a professional driver and now have a new route with little breaks in-between. My wife and I suffered a sudden loss in the family, so I have been there for my loved ones. My wife is still looking for a job. We have really been through a lot.

Are You Still PE-ing?

Yes, Dear Watson, I am still PE-ing and have been experimenting (you know me if you have followed this progress log) with a new method.

Have you heard of Tabata? If not, you can find the definition HERE.

TLDR: It is a type of exercise routine that uses short bursts of work and rest.

Tabata works well because it balances work and rest.

I thought, why not use Tabata for my PE training?

The idea came to me why not apply the principles of Tabata to PE? 🤔

Thus, I have been using the pump and SSJs with a Tabata Timer! Tabata seems to be the sweet spot being work and rest.

I would set the whole training time for say 20+ minutes and switch between SSJs and pumping.
  • For warm-up, I blast my lingam with the Lumebox for 6 minutes then strap into the Lengthmaster 3 and do 6 minutes of bundled stretching.
  • In the training period, I will do two sets of SSJs and two sets of pumping.
  • For the SSJs, I will do the SS for 20 seconds and during the rest period, I will do either squeezes or caterpillars (I do not recall the "official name").
  • Currently, with pumping, I am doing interval pumping where I will start at 4 or 4.5 Hg and this goes up from the baseline to a top-line pressure (I think on the first set I get up to 7 or 8 Hg). On the second set, I start with 4 or 4.5 Hg go to 8hg and climb up to 12 or 12.5 Hg.
  • The training concludes with SSJs then I use the Lumebox for healing.
I have noticed almost no swelling, but the skin on my lingam has been dry and peeling. I think this may be because of the dry winter weather or from new skin growth. These are just my ideas.

I focus mostly on girth training on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. On Tuesday and Thursday, I use the Size Genetics machine for about 2 hours and then wrap up. I also wrap after my girth training.

Overall, I'm happy with my training routine. That's all for now—thank you for reading!

P.S. My morning erections are still around 4.0 to 4.5, on and off.

P.S.S. Also @oldandlively is there any way to change the settings of the new forum to where the end user can stay logged in instead of having to input the username and password each time?
 
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Haursen said:
Good Morning!

I'm back!

Have you heard of the Hero's Journey? I feel like I've been on one during my time away—especially with my PE training. If not, you can look at THIS example because I feel like I have been on a hero's journey regarding PE and life.

Where Have You Been?

Life has been very challenging—about 10 times more challenging than usual! :LOL: I'm still a professional driver and now have a new route with little breaks in-between. My wife and I suffered a sudden loss in the family, so I have been there for my loved ones. My wife is still looking for a job. We have really been through a lot.
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Happy to see your post today, I always enjoy reading your updates!

Additionally, I have been spending quite a bit of time in book of Matthew, and thought I could maybe share some encouragement I found this weekend. Specifically, Matt 14:22-32.

Jesus let the disciples whom he loved go through the storm, walked on water to them and then Peter had faith enough to be only the second person ever to walk on water. Peter started sinking but once he returns his eyes and focus back to Jesus he is saved.

I know you got it, but just want to encourage you to have enduring faith during your storms of life and say glad your back to posting!
 
Haursen said:
Here is my current list of supplements:

  1. NOW Foods brand
    1. Adam multivitamin
    2. Hawthorn
    3. Testo Jack 100
  2. Paradise Herbs
    1. Imperial Adaptogen
  3. KalmAssure
    1. Magnesium Citrate
  4. Doctor's Best
    1. Nattokinase
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A little late but if you want a good T-booster, get the herb Tongkat ali of good quality. This is the only supplement that is scientifically proven to naturally boost test quite significantly (For example vitamin d and magnesium I don't consider t boosters). There is studies on it and depending on your starting T levels it can increase levels by up to 30%.
I have this supplement myself and it works great
 
Haursen said:
I used to be a PE veteran so to speak however when the scandemic hit, I had stopped altogether.
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Suggestion to keep views of politics and religion to yourself. This is a PE forum. Since 2020 I lost both of my parents (75 & 82), one 1/2 brother (63), almost lost my 1/2 sister (59), and they lost their step father (77) all due to the "scandemic" respiratory complications. Just because something didn't immediately affect your life and confirmation bias, does not mean that others didn't receive the full fucking brunt of what you claim doesn't exist.
 
Welcome back brother. It's good to see your logs and life journey humors again.

We'll defintely keep your family in our prayers. Think of it as a period of time where God is refining your hearts and minds through His holy fire, strengthening that spirit of a hero. I'm truly sorry to hear the loss of a loved one. It's something that we never like to see, hear, or go through.

Looks like you are experimenting a new divergent approach to PE. DLD is doing something similar on his own divergence since he has plenty of time on his hand. Can't wait to see your divergence progression and results.

Haursen said:
P.S.S. Also @oldandlively is there any way to change the settings of the new forum to where the end user can stay logged in instead of having to input the username and password each time?
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Got it brother. It's mainly for the security to prevent recent account hacking attempts. The forum was hit multiple times by hacking bots from those who used infected devices, or rather, devices set up to attack. This is why the security measure to cut off the connection every hour is to prevent hacked devices using their victim connection to hack other forums, including our own. I don't want the same events to happen back in 2010, 2015, 2017, 2019, and 2020. By the way, notice the 5 years to reflect the 5 different messed up database integration after the hacks.

I'll find a secondary method cookie method to ease up the burden for longer period of time.
 
Haursen said:
P.S.S. Also @oldandlively is there any way to change the settings of the new forum to where the end user can stay logged in instead of having to input the username and password each time?
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Forgot to mention something. Do you have browser's login and password manager to save the info for quick login? That will shave your login method to a mere one second.
 
MickeyDeese said:
Suggestion to keep views of politics and religion to yourself. This is a PE forum. Since 2020 I lost both of my parents (75 & 82), one 1/2 brother (63), almost lost my 1/2 sister (59), and they lost their step father (77) all due to the "scandemic" respiratory complications. Just because something didn't immediately affect your life and confirmation bias, does not mean that others didn't receive the full fucking brunt of what you claim doesn't exist.
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Thank you for your feedback and I'm very sorry for your losses. I appreciate that this is a sensitive topic for many, however, this is my progress log, and I hope we can focus on the purpose of the forum.

If you would like to discuss the term 'scamdemic' further, I’d be happy to talk about it privately through DM or email, or in a separate forum thread.
 
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oldandlively said:
Forgot to mention something. Do you have browser's login and password manager to save the info for quick login? That will shave your login method to a mere one second.
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I use a password manager so that area is covered and yes,the stay logged in option is back! Thank you! I hope this is not a burden. If it is and security is the main concern, feel free to leave the option off.
 
Abem1 said:
A little late but if you want a good T-booster, get the herb Tongkat ali of good quality. This is the only supplement that is scientifically proven to naturally boost test quite significantly (For example vitamin d and magnesium I don't consider t boosters). There is studies on it and depending on your starting T levels it can increase levels by up to 30%.
I have this supplement myself and it works great
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Thank you for the suggestion. I found the claim 'the only supplement' surprising and had some reservations about it.

Per my research with my favorite research assistant, Perplexity AI:

Tongkat Ali's Role in Testosterone Enhancement: A Critical Evaluation of Exclusivity Claims​

The assertion that Tongkat Ali (Eurycoma longifolia) is "the only supplement scientifically proven to naturally boost testosterone quite significantly" requires scrutiny against clinical evidence, comparative studies, and methodological rigor. This analysis integrates findings from peer-reviewed trials, meta-analyses, and independent safety evaluations to assess the validity of this claim.

Clinical Efficacy of Tongkat Ali in Testosterone Modulation​

Evidence in Hypogonadal Populations​

A 2022 meta-analysis of nine studies (232 participants) demonstrated that Tongkat Ali supplementation (100–600 mg/day for 2 weeks to 6 months) significantly increased testosterone levels in men with baseline testosterone <300 ng/dL, with a large effect size (Hedge’s g = 1.9). For example:

  • A 6-month trial using 200 mg/day elevated testosterone from 278 to 400 ng/dL in androgen-deficient men1.
  • A 12-week study showed increases from 187–203 ng/dL (100 mg/day) and 200–225 ng/dL (200 mg/day) in subclinical hypogonadism1.
These improvements correlate with symptom relief in late-onset hypogonadism (LOH), as evidenced by a 2011 trial where 200 mg/day for 1 month normalized testosterone in 90.8% of participants and resolved aging-related symptoms2.

Limited Impact in Eugonadal Individuals​

In men with normal testosterone (>300 ng/dL), the same meta-analysis found nonsignificant effects (g = 0.8)1. A 2-week trial administering 600 mg/day elevated testosterone from 871 to 969 ng/dL—a statistically notable but clinically marginal change1. This suggests efficacy is context-dependent, confined primarily to deficient populations.

Comparative Analysis with Other Testosterone-Boosting Supplements​

Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera)​

A 2020 randomized controlled trial (RCT) in infertile men showed 5 g/day of ashwagandha root powder increased testosterone by 17% over 3 months, alongside improved semen parameters5. Another study noted a 14.7% testosterone rise in overweight men using 600 mg/day for 8 weeks1. Mechanisms include luteinizing hormone (LH) upregulation and oxidative stress reduction in Leydig cells5.

Zinc and Vitamin D​

  • Zinc: A trial in deficient males demonstrated a 30% testosterone increase with 30 mg/day supplementation via enhanced steroidogenesis1.
  • Vitamin D: Overweight men with insufficiency experienced a 20% testosterone elevation after 12 months of 3,000 IU/day, mediated by vitamin D receptor activation in testes1.
These results contradict the exclusivity claim, demonstrating multiple supplements exhibit comparable or superior efficacy in specific cohorts.

Methodological Limitations and Industry Bias​

Funding Conflicts and Publication Bias​

Over 70% of Tongkat Ali trials, including those cited in the 2022 meta-analysis, were funded by Biotropics Malaysia Berhad—the manufacturer of Physta®, the extract used in studies16. This introduces potential bias, evidenced by:

  • Selective reporting of positive outcomes (e.g., highlighting hypogonadal subgroups while underemphasizing null results in eugonadal men)1.
  • Small sample sizes (n < 50 in 80% of studies), reducing statistical power1.
  • Significant publication bias (Egger’s test p = 0.02), suggesting unpublished negative data1.

Safety and Contamination Risks​

Commercial Tongkat Ali products exhibit batch variability, with some containing heavy metals exceeding safety thresholds:

  • Lead: 1.2–3.8 ppm (vs. WHO limit: 1.0–2.5 ppm)4.
  • Mercury: 0.05 ppm (within limits), but regional variations risk higher contamination4.
    The European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) warns of genotoxic risks at doses ≥400 mg/day, citing in vitro DNA damage1.

Conclusion​

While Tongkat Ali demonstrates clinically meaningful testosterone elevation in hypogonadal men, the claim of exclusivity is unfounded. Ashwagandha, zinc, and vitamin D have robust evidence supporting their efficacy, often with fewer safety concerns. Tongkat Ali’s benefits are population-specific, and its research landscape is marred by industry conflicts and methodological flaws.

Recommendations for Evidence-Based Use​

  1. Targeted Application: Reserve Tongkat Ali for confirmed hypogonadism (total testosterone <300 ng/dL) under medical supervision.
  2. Quality Verification: Opt for NSF/UL-certified products to mitigate heavy metal risks4.
  3. Holistic Strategies: Combine supplementation with resistance training and sleep optimization for synergistic effects1.
In summary, Tongkat Ali is one of several evidence-backed options for testosterone support, not the sole scientifically validated choice.

Citations:​

  1. Tongkat Ali benefits, dosage, and side effects
  2. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1439-0272.2011.01168.x
  3. How Internet Websites Portray Herbal Vitality Products Containing Eurycoma longifolia Jack: An Evaluation of the Quality and Risks of Online Information
  4. Tongkat Ali Safety Review: Mercury, Lead, Cadmium and Arsenic Levels - Akarali
  5. How Much Ashwagandha to Take Per Day for Testosterone Increase?
  6. Physta® Tongkat Ali Clinical Studies - Akarali
  7. Eurycoma longifolia (Jack) Improves Serum Total Testosterone in Men: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of Clinical Trials - PMC
  8. Tongkat Ali as a potential herbal supplement for physically active male and female seniors--a pilot study - PubMed
  9. Does Tongkat Ali Increase Testosterone? Scientific Evidence Supports Tongkat Ali as a Testosterone Boosting Supplement, but there is more to it. - Akarali
  10. Tongkat Ali Root Extract
  11. Examining the Effects of Herbs on Testosterone Concentrations in Men: A Systematic Review - PMC
  12. What to Know About Tongkat Ali Extract
  13. Eurycoma longifolia (Jack) Improves Serum Total Testosterone in Men: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of Clinical Trials - PubMed
  14. The effect of Eurycoma Longifolia on the regulation of reproductive hormones in young males - PubMed
  15. Effect of Tongkat Ali on stress hormones and psychological mood state in moderately stressed subjects - PMC
  16. Tongkat Ali - Consensus Academic Search Engine
  17. Review on a Traditional Herbal Medicine, Eurycoma longifolia Jack (Tongkat Ali): Its Traditional Uses, Chemistry, Evidence-Based Pharmacology and Toxicology - PMC
  18. Safety of Eurycoma longifolia (Tongkat Ali) root extract as a novel food pursuant to Regulation (EU) 2015/2283 - PMC
  19. Tongkat Ali: Herbal Testosterone Production Support | Standard Process
  20. A Multifaceted Review of Eurycoma longifolia Nutraceutical Bioactives: Production, Extraction, and Analysis in Drugs and Biofluids - PMC
  21. What are tongkat ali’s main drawbacks?
  22. Natural Supplements to Boost Your Testosterone Levels and Libido
  23. Is Tongkat Ali the Answer to Low Testosterone?- Akash Kapadia, MD
  24. Tongkat Ali: Testosterone Booster or All Hype? Analyzing the Evidence | Galaxy.ai
  25. Analysis of lead content in herbal preparations in Malaysia - PubMed
  26. Are testosterone boosters effective? And more you should know
  27. Phytoandrogenic properties of Eurycoma longifolia as natural alternative to testosterone replacement therapy - PubMed
  28. A 6-month, double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomized trial to evaluate the effect of Eurycoma longifolia (Tongkat Ali) and concurrent training on erectile function and testosterone levels in androgen deficiency of aging males (ADAM) - PubMed
  29. Effect of Eurycoma longifolia standardised aqueous root extract– Physta® on testosterone levels and quality of life in ageing male subjects: a randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled multicentre study | Food & Nutrition Research
  30. Effect of Tongkat Ali on stress hormones and psychological mood state in moderately stressed subjects - PubMed
  31. The Effect of Tongkat Ali Supplementation on Body Composition in Exercise-Trained Males and Females
  32. https://pubs.aip.org/aip/acp/articl...importance-of-Eurycoma-longifolia-Tongkat-Ali
  33. Tongkat Ali - LiverTox - NCBI Bookshelf
  34. ClinicalTrials.gov
  35. Research Breakdown on Tongkat Ali
 
Haursen said:
Thank you for the suggestion. I found the claim 'the only supplement' surprising and had some reservations about it.

Per my research with my favorite research assistant, Perplexity AI:

Tongkat Ali's Role in Testosterone Enhancement: A Critical Evaluation of Exclusivity Claims​

The assertion that Tongkat Ali (Eurycoma longifolia) is "the only supplement scientifically proven to naturally boost testosterone quite significantly" requires scrutiny against clinical evidence, comparative studies, and methodological rigor. This analysis integrates findings from peer-reviewed trials, meta-analyses, and independent safety evaluations to assess the validity of this claim.

Clinical Efficacy of Tongkat Ali in Testosterone Modulation​

Evidence in Hypogonadal Populations​

A 2022 meta-analysis of nine studies (232 participants) demonstrated that Tongkat Ali supplementation (100–600 mg/day for 2 weeks to 6 months) significantly increased testosterone levels in men with baseline testosterone <300 ng/dL, with a large effect size (Hedge’s g = 1.9). For example:

  • A 6-month trial using 200 mg/day elevated testosterone from 278 to 400 ng/dL in androgen-deficient men1.
  • A 12-week study showed increases from 187–203 ng/dL (100 mg/day) and 200–225 ng/dL (200 mg/day) in subclinical hypogonadism1.
These improvements correlate with symptom relief in late-onset hypogonadism (LOH), as evidenced by a 2011 trial where 200 mg/day for 1 month normalized testosterone in 90.8% of participants and resolved aging-related symptoms2.

Limited Impact in Eugonadal Individuals​

In men with normal testosterone (>300 ng/dL), the same meta-analysis found nonsignificant effects (g = 0.8)1. A 2-week trial administering 600 mg/day elevated testosterone from 871 to 969 ng/dL—a statistically notable but clinically marginal change1. This suggests efficacy is context-dependent, confined primarily to deficient populations.

Comparative Analysis with Other Testosterone-Boosting Supplements​

Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera)​

A 2020 randomized controlled trial (RCT) in infertile men showed 5 g/day of ashwagandha root powder increased testosterone by 17% over 3 months, alongside improved semen parameters5. Another study noted a 14.7% testosterone rise in overweight men using 600 mg/day for 8 weeks1. Mechanisms include luteinizing hormone (LH) upregulation and oxidative stress reduction in Leydig cells5.

Zinc and Vitamin D​

  • Zinc: A trial in deficient males demonstrated a 30% testosterone increase with 30 mg/day supplementation via enhanced steroidogenesis1.
  • Vitamin D: Overweight men with insufficiency experienced a 20% testosterone elevation after 12 months of 3,000 IU/day, mediated by vitamin D receptor activation in testes1.
These results contradict the exclusivity claim, demonstrating multiple supplements exhibit comparable or superior efficacy in specific cohorts.

Methodological Limitations and Industry Bias​

Funding Conflicts and Publication Bias​

Over 70% of Tongkat Ali trials, including those cited in the 2022 meta-analysis, were funded by Biotropics Malaysia Berhad—the manufacturer of Physta®, the extract used in studies16. This introduces potential bias, evidenced by:

  • Selective reporting of positive outcomes (e.g., highlighting hypogonadal subgroups while underemphasizing null results in eugonadal men)1.
  • Small sample sizes (n < 50 in 80% of studies), reducing statistical power1.
  • Significant publication bias (Egger’s test p = 0.02), suggesting unpublished negative data1.

Safety and Contamination Risks​

Commercial Tongkat Ali products exhibit batch variability, with some containing heavy metals exceeding safety thresholds:

  • Lead: 1.2–3.8 ppm (vs. WHO limit: 1.0–2.5 ppm)4.
  • Mercury: 0.05 ppm (within limits), but regional variations risk higher contamination4.
    The European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) warns of genotoxic risks at doses ≥400 mg/day, citing in vitro DNA damage1.

Conclusion​

While Tongkat Ali demonstrates clinically meaningful testosterone elevation in hypogonadal men, the claim of exclusivity is unfounded. Ashwagandha, zinc, and vitamin D have robust evidence supporting their efficacy, often with fewer safety concerns. Tongkat Ali’s benefits are population-specific, and its research landscape is marred by industry conflicts and methodological flaws.

Recommendations for Evidence-Based Use​

  1. Targeted Application: Reserve Tongkat Ali for confirmed hypogonadism (total testosterone <300 ng/dL) under medical supervision.
  2. Quality Verification: Opt for NSF/UL-certified products to mitigate heavy metal risks4.
  3. Holistic Strategies: Combine supplementation with resistance training and sleep optimization for synergistic effects1.
In summary, Tongkat Ali is one of several evidence-backed options for testosterone support, not the sole scientifically validated choice.

Citations:​

  1. Tongkat Ali benefits, dosage, and side effects
  2. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1439-0272.2011.01168.x
  3. How Internet Websites Portray Herbal Vitality Products Containing Eurycoma longifolia Jack: An Evaluation of the Quality and Risks of Online Information
  4. Tongkat Ali Safety Review: Mercury, Lead, Cadmium and Arsenic Levels - Akarali
  5. How Much Ashwagandha to Take Per Day for Testosterone Increase?
  6. Physta® Tongkat Ali Clinical Studies - Akarali
  7. Eurycoma longifolia (Jack) Improves Serum Total Testosterone in Men: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of Clinical Trials - PMC
  8. Tongkat Ali as a potential herbal supplement for physically active male and female seniors--a pilot study - PubMed
  9. Does Tongkat Ali Increase Testosterone? Scientific Evidence Supports Tongkat Ali as a Testosterone Boosting Supplement, but there is more to it. - Akarali
  10. Tongkat Ali Root Extract
  11. Examining the Effects of Herbs on Testosterone Concentrations in Men: A Systematic Review - PMC
  12. What to Know About Tongkat Ali Extract
  13. Eurycoma longifolia (Jack) Improves Serum Total Testosterone in Men: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of Clinical Trials - PubMed
  14. The effect of Eurycoma Longifolia on the regulation of reproductive hormones in young males - PubMed
  15. Effect of Tongkat Ali on stress hormones and psychological mood state in moderately stressed subjects - PMC
  16. Tongkat Ali - Consensus Academic Search Engine
  17. Review on a Traditional Herbal Medicine, Eurycoma longifolia Jack (Tongkat Ali): Its Traditional Uses, Chemistry, Evidence-Based Pharmacology and Toxicology - PMC
  18. Safety of Eurycoma longifolia (Tongkat Ali) root extract as a novel food pursuant to Regulation (EU) 2015/2283 - PMC
  19. Tongkat Ali: Herbal Testosterone Production Support | Standard Process
  20. A Multifaceted Review of Eurycoma longifolia Nutraceutical Bioactives: Production, Extraction, and Analysis in Drugs and Biofluids - PMC
  21. What are tongkat ali’s main drawbacks?
  22. Natural Supplements to Boost Your Testosterone Levels and Libido
  23. Is Tongkat Ali the Answer to Low Testosterone?- Akash Kapadia, MD
  24. Tongkat Ali: Testosterone Booster or All Hype? Analyzing the Evidence | Galaxy.ai
  25. Analysis of lead content in herbal preparations in Malaysia - PubMed
  26. Are testosterone boosters effective? And more you should know
  27. Phytoandrogenic properties of Eurycoma longifolia as natural alternative to testosterone replacement therapy - PubMed
  28. A 6-month, double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomized trial to evaluate the effect of Eurycoma longifolia (Tongkat Ali) and concurrent training on erectile function and testosterone levels in androgen deficiency of aging males (ADAM) - PubMed
  29. Effect of Eurycoma longifolia standardised aqueous root extract– Physta® on testosterone levels and quality of life in ageing male subjects: a randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled multicentre study | Food & Nutrition Research
  30. Effect of Tongkat Ali on stress hormones and psychological mood state in moderately stressed subjects - PubMed
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Ashwagandha has some benefits yes, although 5g/day is A LOT. Most supplements have a 200-400 and at most 600mg/ day dosage. 5g would cost way too much and probably cause tolerance quite quickly (and possibly side effects).
As I tried to explain vitamin D, zinc and magnesium, I do not count as T-boosters. They simply help support testosterone production. If you are deficient in these it can help with supplementation. This is why these ingredients are found in many t-boosters. It's a fancy way of including ingredients that "can help" but don't actually do anything unless you are highly deficient.

Hence why I stated that tongkat ali is one of the few supplements that actually work to help Increase actual t levels, not help with "support of production".
 
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Today's Trainercise (Combination of Training and Exercising PE style)

  • Warm-Up:
    • 6m Lumebox -> 6m Lengthmaster (Bundled x 2 turns) (direction: straight, down, BTC) - note: some of the BTC were performed without bundling.
  • Tabata Titan
    • Total time: 23:50
    • Rest between tabatas: 1m
    • 5 Rounds
    • Time On: 20 seconds
    • Time Off: 10-second rest
      • Round 1: SSJs with ring
        • during the rest periods: squeezes
      • Round 2: Interval Pumping (Hg)
        • started: 4, 4.5, 5, 5.5, 6, 6.5, 7, 7.5
        • during the rest periods, I drop to 4 except for the first set where I dropped to zero.
      • Round 3: SSJ with ring
        • during the rest periods: squeezes
      • Round 4: Interval Pumping (Hg)
        • started: 4.5, 9.5, 10, 10.5, 11, 11.5, 12, 12.5
        • during the rest, I dropped to 4.5 except for the first set where I dropped to zero
      • Round 5: SSJ with ring
        • during the rest periods: caterpillars
    • Recovery
      • Lumebox (IR and NIR) with ring worn (10 minutes)
    • Health Bounce (2 minutes)
    • Post training:
      • Designer Wellness 100% Whey Protein Powder Designer Whey with Probiotics (2 scoops) (20g) + Vitacost Spirulina (1 tbsp) mixed with coconut milk
      • Supplement Stack (consumed with the above drink)
        • Rainbow Light Men's One 50 Plus Daily Multivitamin
        • MegaFood Turmeric Curcumin Extra Strength Liver - Liver Support (1 tab)
        • Bluebonnet Nutrition Vitamin C -- 500 mg (2 capsules)
        • Solaray Propolis Plus (1 capsule)
        • Vitacost Complexed Selenium - Albion® Selenium Glycinate Complex (2 capsules)
      • 2 tsp of Organic Black Seed Oil (internal)
 
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