Feeling stuck!

[Nokdown]

Having trouble with gains, been using lengthmaster and I felt I was getting somewhere but not. Keeping it wrapped as much as possible while resting and after peing. When I first started hanging I got gains quick. Frustration has grown. Is there a point where you can’t gain anymore?? And how much rest is necessary? Feeling stuck.

 

[Nokdown]

Excellent picture! Wrapping is so easy if they follow your advice and that wonderful picture

How do you get the sleeve over the there band without messing that up?? Put on before??

 

[oldandlively]

How do you get the sleeve over the there band without messing that up?? Put on before??

For SiliSleev#2 and #5 only as they are softer.

• Invert the sleeve, only if you want, inside out.
• Place the top of the sleeve, which ever that end you chose it to be, and place it over the TheraBand wrap.
• Take the bottom end of the sleeve, expand it a bit more, and slide over the rest of the sleeve towards the end of the base of the penis. You simply invert the sleeve again.

DuroSleee.

• Slide the sleeve onto your penis first.
• Roll or pull the sleeve down to expose the base of the glans.
• Wrap the TheraBand on.
• Place the sleeve onto the TheraBand.

 

[Nokdown]

man I’ve been doing very light btc and a few pump days and after 2 weeks or more of rest and wrapping before that. It’s been almost three months of that since you told me I needed rest cause I went too heavy and created a defensive penis………frustration building. NO DISRESPECT.
Do you really think I need to wait the full six months? This is aggravating lol

 

[oldandlively]

PE is patience, brother. You are working on pure soft tissues and ligaments, where blood is far away from the body, not hard tissues where blood is very abundant. It's like expecting your earlobes to grow like your nails and hair. Two different set of functions that you have to overcome by reprogramming your body at the DNA level.

 

[Nokdown]

Yeah I do a little bit then keep it wrapped for days before going again. Started the serious rest mid February. Really want that moment where I see that it has released itself again. And it stretches easier

 

[DLD]

Yeah I do a little bit then keep it wrapped for days before going again. Started the serious rest mid February. Really want that moment where I see that it has released itself again. And it stretches easier

Just take your time and remain consistent. PE is an ever changing sport. That great day you make your goal that will make you so proud. We are here for you for the long run so ask any questions you may have and we get you through it. God bless you my brother

 

[Nokdown]

Just take your time and remain consistent. PE is an ever changing sport. That great day you make your goal that will make you so proud. We are here for you for the long run so ask any questions you may have and we get you through it. God bless you my brother

Thanks

 

[DLD]

Thanks

No problem! May Jesus be with you in every step you take.

 

[Nokdown]

No problem! May Jesus be with you in every step you take.

Anybody ever get a blister on the bottom of the base from these silicone cock rings?? How long to heal?? This thing sucks!

 

[oldandlively]

Anybody ever get a blister on the bottom of the base from these silicone cock rings?? How long to heal?? This thing sucks!

Two things stand out right away when you mention blister using rings:

The first is the ring may be too skinny. The width of the ring tends to dig into your skin. This is more true when the ring is worn during pumping, not after pumping. As the skin plasticity (flexibility) increases, the loose skin wraps around or expand around the edge of the skinny cock ring, causing friction and irritation. Not sure which ones you have. The FatTires in MoS Shop may work better for you. Something with wider width to prevent the skin from digging in.

Second is the cock ring materials. You got silicone, PTU rubbers, and various other blend. Possibly an allergic reaction to the material or the blend of plastic types?

 

[Nokdown]

Two things stand out right away when you mention blister using rings:

The first is the ring may be too skinny. The width of the ring tends to dig into your skin. This is more true when the ring is worn during pumping, not after pumping. As the skin plasticity (flexibility) increases, the loose skin wraps around or expand around the edge of the skinny cock ring, causing friction and irritation. Not sure which ones you have. The FatTires in MoS Shop may work better for you. Something with wider width to prevent the skin from digging in.

Second is the cock ring materials. You got silicone, PTU rubbers, and various other blend. Possibly an allergic reaction to the material or the blend of plastic types?

I bought them on your website, all three sizes because I didn’t realize which one I would need.

 

[oldandlively]

I bought them on your website, all three sizes because I didn’t realize which one I would need.

Try to identify the three types of sleeves. You can go by feel as well. So, sort them out like this.

SiliSleev #2. Very soft, very flexible, great to use as the first layer in multiple layers of sleeves. I tend to use an old SiliSleev #2 for softness and comforts. It can stretch out very well as an older sleeve after using it for a while. Don't discard it if it happens to age, cinched, or break.

SiliSleev #5. Slightly thicker, but very flexible, soft, and easy to put on like #2. It's great as a first layer to use with the SiliStretcher. The stiffer body can work with your needs to prevent overstretching. I tend to use it as the first layer to prevent slippage during hot days and on days I move a lot. If I need more traction, I use the SiliSleev #5 as the first layer, SiliSleev #2 as the upper layer because it's more flexible. These two combined will pull your penis enough to cause blister at 15lbs of pure traction.

DuroSleev. This is the thickest of the sleeve. It doesn't yield much. It doesn't expand much. You need to be a freaking Hulk to stretch this out. BUT, it's great to use as an elongation sleeve. If you purchased a loose DuroSleev, don't roll it up and then roll it out. Try to slide your penis into it instead. Use a bit of lubricate of your choice to get it on. Once you have it on, fold the sleeve back a bit and wipe off each end to create friction zones All you need is 1 to 1.5in on each end to have traction on your skin. I use a combo of TheraBand and DuroSleev to create the traction I need since I'm uncircumcised. Too much foreskin causes the DuroSleev to slide and slip off my penis during flaccid state. Again, DuroSleev is only used for elongation purposes, not for SiliStretcher.

Once you know which sleeves you have, use them according to the needs.

 

[Nokdown]

I’ve been resting and resting while keeping it wrapped/elongated. Can I lose gains by not continuing to PE?

 

[oldandlively]

I’ve been resting and resting while keeping it wrapped/elongated. Can I lose gains by not continuing to PE?

Yes, you can. There's a different in the wrapped and keeping elongated to the active traction. Wrapping to keep things elongated tend to have very low traction force, around 200g to 500g. If you wrap, BUT you are adding traction force between 900 to 1100g, you will not lose anything but start to gain. So, just wrapping without traction, you'll lose over period of time. If you wrap with traction force, you'll gain or sustain your gains.

 

[Nokdown]

Yes, you can. There's a different in the wrapped and keeping elongated to the active traction. Wrapping to keep things elongated tend to have very low traction force, around 200g to 500g. If you wrap, BUT you are adding traction force between 900 to 1100g, you will not lose anything but start to gain. So, just wrapping without traction, you'll lose over period of time. If you wrap with traction force, you'll gain or sustain your gains.

Ok. I ordered the durosleeve. Gonna use this and theraband like your pictures. My wrapping is good but at times it still wants to turtle on me.

 

[Nokdown]

Ok. I ordered the durosleeve. Gonna use this and theraband like your pictures. My wrapping is good but at times it still wants to turtle on me.

Basically you want a full stretch right? As long as blood flow is good? I always thought that was exercising it more and it wouldn’t heal good

 

[oldandlively]

Basically you want a full stretch right? As long as blood flow is good? I always thought that was exercising it more and it wouldn’t heal good

Yes, and yes.

 

[DLD]

Yes, and yes.

YES YES YES

 

[Nokdown]

YES YES YES

Cut new theraband in half so it’s about six” long and folded it over a few times to about 1” wide and put my silisleeve over it and then wrapped it up with bandage. Still waiting on durosleeve but is this the way??

 

[oldandlively]

Cut new theraband in half so it’s about six” long and folded it over a few times to about 1” wide and put my silisleeve over it and then wrapped it up with bandage. Still waiting on durosleeve but is this the way??

Yep. 3/4in to 1in wide. that's all you need to get a good firm grip with the foreskin. It's used on most products out there as a cushion, an anti slippage method, and upgraded fashion to improve traction. Funny how MoS is the first to employ TheraBand, the cheapest alternative to molded silicone and plastics that don't seal properly 80% of the time.

 

[DLD]

Cut new theraband in half so it’s about six” long and folded it over a few times to about 1” wide and put my silisleeve over it and then wrapped it up with bandage. Still waiting on durosleeve but is this the way??

Have you been sent a email with tracking?

 

[Nokdown]

Have you been sent a email with tracking?

Yeah it’s in transit

 

[Nokdown]

Yep. 3/4in to 1in wide. that's all you need to get a good firm grip with the foreskin. It's used on most products out there as a cushion, an anti slippage method, and upgraded fashion to improve traction. Funny how MoS is the first to employ TheraBand, the cheapest alternative to molded silicone and plastics that don't seal properly 80% of the time.

 

[Nokdown]

Yep. 3/4in to 1in wide. that's all you need to get a good firm grip with the foreskin. It's used on most products out there as a cushion, an anti slippage method, and upgraded fashion to improve traction. Funny how MoS is the first to employ TheraBand, the cheapest alternative to molded silicone and plastics that don't seal properly 80% of the time.

Not too tight with the theraband right? If the tip gets cold it’s too tight? Don’t want it to try to turtle either

 

[DLD]

Yeah it’s in transit

Awesome

 

[oldandlively]

Not too tight with the theraband right? If the tip gets cold it’s too tight? Don’t want it to try to turtle either

Yep. Not too tight. I can describe it all I want, but you have to experience and experiment before you understand how tight you should use with TheraBand to prevent slippage.

 

[Nokdown]

Yep. Not too tight. I can describe it all I want, but you have to experience and experiment before you understand how tight you should use with TheraBand to prevent slippage.

I understand. Even the slightest bit cold at the tip is bad though?

 

[oldandlively]

I understand. Even the slightest bit cold at the tip is bad though?

Depending on what the cold is about. For example, since I'm uncircumcised, if I retract my foreskin for too long even without any wrapping, my glans feel cold to the touch. If I wrap up with my glans exposed, the cold feeling should be the same.

Now, in the case of you are circumcised, but being flaccid, your glans is warm, you want to mimic that warmth when you wrap. If you wrap lightly but still have cool to cold sensation after 5 minutes, that means you wrapped a bit too tight. Pay attention to the color of the skin to see if the glans color change from a normal color to a whitish color (lack of blood flow), dark blue color (no blood flow), or a mix of white and pink color (flow of blood still going but reduced down to 70% of the flow). If it's the last portion, it's still good. Just a light kegel here and there and the blood will flow into the glans and back out without any issues.

 

[Nokdown]

Depending on what the cold is about. For example, since I'm uncircumcised, if I retract my foreskin for too long even without any wrapping, my glans feel cold to the touch. If I wrap up with my glans exposed, the cold feeling should be the same.

Now, in the case of you are circumcised, but being flaccid, your glans is warm, you want to mimic that warmth when you wrap. If you wrap lightly but still have cool to cold sensation after 5 minutes, that means you wrapped a bit too tight. Pay attention to the color of the skin to see if the glans color change from a normal color to a whitish color (lack of blood flow), dark blue color (no blood flow), or a mix of white and pink color (flow of blood still going but reduced down to 70% of the flow). If it's the last portion, it's still good. Just a light kegel here and there and the blood will flow into the glans and back out without any issues.

Thank you for that info. I have seen a whitish color a few times but it wasn’t exactly cold so I let it be. Usually when it does feel a little cold yes I do a couple legal/jelqs to get the blood back.
So am I doing something wrong with the theraband? I’ve used it under my sleeve a couple times now and it looks like it deformed a little/thinned out or bubbly looking in certain spots. Is that a reaction to the silicone sleeve??

 

[oldandlively]

Thank you for that info. I have seen a whitish color a few times but it wasn’t exactly cold so I let it be. Usually when it does feel a little cold yes I do a couple legal/jelqs to get the blood back.
So am I doing something wrong with the theraband?

No, you're not doing anything wrong. Your penis may just be getting used to a constriction near the glans. You can try to loosen it a bit, or bulking the Theraband up by folding the layers down to 1.2cm wide rather than 2 or 2.5cm wide, while loosely wrap the TheraBand further. Give different variations a try.

I’ve used it under my sleeve a couple times now and it looks like it deformed a little/thinned out or bubbly looking in certain spots. Is that a reaction to the silicone sleeve??

Silicone does not react to TPU or rubber. Normally, what causes the thinning is the bulking or long period of stretching on the silicone. Think of soft silicone like a balloon plastic layer. The longer under pressure the balloon wall is, the further the plastic stretches, thinning out. Silicone is a plastic but it's inner plastic. It's still subjected to physics of heat, expansion, and weakening states.

 

[Jdog1234]

Nope. There's no end point. I got in touch with an old adult entertainment brother who's in his 60s right now. Currently, he's still doing PE and his slong is 13in long and 7in girth. He started with 5in long and 4in large just like I did. So, no, there is no end point unless you stop.

WOAH; crazy growth.

 

[DLD]

WOAH; crazy growth.

Do yall have a link or picture of this guy. 13" does not sound realistic

 

[Nokdown]

No, you're not doing anything wrong. Your penis may just be getting used to a constriction near the glans. You can try to loosen it a bit, or bulking the Theraband up by folding the layers down to 1.2cm wide rather than 2 or 2.5cm wide, while loosely wrap the TheraBand further. Give different variations a try.



Silicone does not react to TPU or rubber. Normally, what causes the thinning is the bulking or long period of stretching on the silicone. Think of soft silicone like a balloon plastic layer. The longer under pressure the balloon wall is, the further the plastic stretches, thinning out. Silicone is a plastic but it's inner plastic. It's still subjected to physics of heat, expansion, and weakening states.

I’m talking about the theraband reacting to the silicone. The theraband is looking abnormal

 

[oldandlively]

Do yall have a link or picture of this guy. 13" does not sound realistic

He's no longer in the adult entertainment industry and went silent since 2016. All his profiles have been taking down so he could live in peace.

 

[oldandlively]

I’m talking about the theraband reacting to the silicone. The theraband is looking abnormal

TheraBand might thin and bubble due to stretching. Since it's made of soft rubber, it can indeed react to soap detergents, chemical cleaning products, or even water from the municipal supply during washing.

 

[Jdog1234]

Do yall have a link or picture of this guy. 13" does not sound realistic

I was going to say, 13 is outrageous imagine the hurt you'd lay down

 

[Nokdown]

TheraBand might thin and bubble due to stretching. Since it's made of soft rubber, it can indeed react to soap detergents, chemical cleaning products, or even water from the municipal supply during washing.

Traction feels like a slight burning sensation right?? I’m fully stretched with this sleeve and feeling it. Normal??

 

[oldandlively]

I was going to say, 13 is outrageous imagine the hurt you'd lay down

Toilet water fishing..

 

[oldandlively]

Traction feels like a slight burning sensation right?? I’m fully stretched with this sleeve and feeling it. Normal??

Burning sensation around the skin or itching sensation that feels like something is stretching your penis like a taffy?

Burning sensation and redness around the skin is allergies with rubber. Stretching sensation like your penis is being pulled apart is traction. However, too much traction and you feel something is ripping is way too much. It should be a full pull feeling. That is around 1.2kg max.

 

[Nokdown]

WOAH; crazy growth.

Why would anyone want it that big lol. That’s crazy

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

Guys I have doing bundled stretching using the LM,is this the best way to "break " the tunica? I have been turning to the left mostly. How can I tell when I have to turn to the right.

 

[oldandlively]

Why would anyone want it that big lol. That’s crazy

There are those with obsessive compulsive behaviors where they want to push the limits to what they can do. Ever heard of bodybuilders crushed their bones because their muscles were too huge, exceeding their body limiters?

 

[oldandlively]

Guys I have doing bundled stretching using the LM,is this the best way to "break " the tunica? I have been turning to the left mostly. How can I tell when I have to turn to the right.

Breaking the tunica using the LM is through bundling because of the contortion loads. As your tissues are so dense and tight, this is the only mechanical method using a fulcrum based approach. The more extreme end is the soundwave and chemical cocktails method to break the collagen bonds down.

Let's say you're dealing with a left bending, or a unique issue where the penis is tilting more to the right, you bundled to the left at maximum rotation for 5 minutes, while bundling to the right for 4 minutes.

But if nothing is wrong, then in your case, I tend to go a bit higher on the time around 5 minutes per rotational side: left, then right. Don't just focus on one side only. If you don't see tunica yielding within the first 10 minutes for the first week, switch to 20 minutes with slightly higher intensity on the second week. No more than 1lbs of bundling traction force per week for your case. Other brothers should only increase in 0.5lbs every three to four weeks.

 

[DLD]

I was going to say, 13 is outrageous imagine the hurt you'd lay down

Lmao

 

[Nokdown]

There are those with obsessive compulsive behaviors where they want to push the limits to what they can do. Ever heard of bodybuilders crushed their bones because their muscles were too huge, exceeding their body limiters?

I didn’t mean it in a negative way man. I understand obsession

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

Breaking the tunica using the LM is through bundling because of the contortion loads. As your tissues are so dense and tight, this is the only mechanical method using a fulcrum based approach. The more extreme end is the soundwave and chemical cocktails method to break the collagen bonds down.

Let's say you're dealing with a left bending, or a unique issue where the penis is tilting more to the right, you bundled to the left at maximum rotation for 5 minutes, while bundling to the right for 4 minutes.

But if nothing is wrong, then in your case, I tend to go a bit higher on the time around 5 minutes per rotational side: left, then right. Don't just focus on one side only. If you don't see tunica yielding within the first 10 minutes for the first week, switch to 20 minutes with slightly higher intensity on the second week. No more than 1lbs of bundling traction force per week for your case. Other brothers should only increase in 0.5lbs every three to four weeks

I'll go 4 positions left center right (BTC,downwards,outwards,upwards all bundled) 5 minutes each side . Is going to be challenging. Would take like 45 mins a whole routine..Wdyt?

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

Burning sensation around the skin or itching sensation that feels like something is stretching your penis like a taffy?

Burning sensation and redness around the skin is allergies with rubber. Stretching sensation like your penis is being pulled apart is traction. However, too much traction and you feel something is ripping is way too much. It should be a full pull feeling. That is around 1.2kg max.

I try to place the LM chamber as far back as possible aiming for the base of the penis. I feel I'm pulling out this long thick muscle cord or whatever that is . I feel the pulling in the perineum coccyx area.

 

[oldandlively]

I try to place the LM chamber as far back as possible aiming for the base of the penis. I feel I'm pulling out this long thick muscle cord or whatever that is . I feel the pulling in the perineum coccyx area.

If the feeling is that far back, I think you're pulling your entire penis out from the root. Just wondering, the feeling is deep inside, somewhere either on the right or on the left, or both equally side-by-side from the base of the penis to the very far back of the butthole, doesn't it? If you touch the sensitive area, you feel like electricity shooting in those touched areas?

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

If the feeling is that far back, I think you're pulling your entire penis out from the root. Just wondering, the feeling is deep inside, somewhere either on the right or on the left, or both equally side-by-side from the base of the penis to the very far back of the butthole, doesn't it? If you touch the sensitive area, you feel like electricity shooting in those touched areas?

Good question it's in the middle a bit behind maybe. Yeah feels like electricity just a bit..

 

[oldandlively]

Good question it's in the middle a bit behind maybe. Yeah feels like electricity just a bit..

As you surmised, it's the perineum, which can be a stressed transverse perineum ligaments or the bulbospongiosum muscles all along the pelvix floor. This is due to high kegel stress load from engagegement, and of course, weight load during pulling and hanging.

You can either ease up on the workout routine to a lower intensity until that stressor is lessened up, no more kegel for a week and ease up the hanging and pulling to a moderate load, or do a one day on, one day off at moderate intensity.

Whatever your method of a approach is, you have to allow the stressed tissues heal. Try perform a low intensity reverse kegel throughout the day as well. Try to collect more blood on the pelvic region for faster healing.