Progress thread F26 - Grower to a Shower - create a flaccid Monster & Journey to 10 x 6.5 ?

F26

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Hey my brothers,

first of all: This forum and the members are more than amazing!
I’m thankful that I’ve found you and got already in contact with some of you cool guys.
On the other side, the amount of knowledge here is unbelievable. Thanks to the founders who made this possible and to each of the members who are ramping up the knowledge-library and theories based on their own experiences and results every single day. I’ve read as much as I could so far over the past few days and was mostly bookmarking the most relevant things for me at the moment and also taking lots of notes in a separate word file.
I really got the idea now why @DLD is calling it a brotherhood instead of just a forum!

Currently doing a change to get my body to the best and most healthy shape of my life and so I've also decided to do the same with my dick!
Getting rid of the bad habits and starting positive and healthy habits to improve my life day by day, slowly but steady.
In life we often tell us we want to start this or that, maybe we even start it and a few days or weeks later we've stopped again due to some stupid excuses. You can very much see this every New Years Eve, people telling each other about how much they want to change something and want to start getting a great life now. Guess what? Some of them will start, most of them will fail after a few days or weeks. So it mostly stays a dream or imagination due to lack of consistency and determination to put the steady and consistent work into it. Best example I can give you: Sports and weightloss ? For most people it will always just stay a dream and imagination because they are not seeing the benefits for their own - health, clear mind and a nice shape. Very often people just want to do it for the others or to better say that the others don't think bad of them. Mostly it's about the looks, not about the actual health. And as they are not making that decision for themselves - they will most likely fail longterm.
I think everybody knows about this, everybody had been at some points in life like that and that was me too! Now I'm ramping up my life since a few weeks and feeling awesome. Now is the time to also start getting my dick in the best and most healthy shape of his life (fire)

As for nearly exactly one week now, I've read as much as I could in this forum. Hundreds of threads, theories, experiences and tricks how to fix things. Bookmarked lots of threads, took down a few sites of notes and feeling ready to start now.
I want to make it a habit as PE takes a lot of consistent work. So I'm aiming for slowly and consistent, trying to improve every day or week a little bit.
I'm not a fan of "off" days, because once I'm off for 1,2,3 or more days, it's difficult for me to get back into action and most likely I would stop, so I'm aiming for 7 days a week. Longterm consistency always beats short term intensity when it comes to habits and making changes. On the other side: Smart work beats hard work. So that's also a reason why I've read so much and thought about lots of theories and routines and deciding which one would fit me the most. Also, that's a reason why I got some PE tools. I really want to make it work and if they can support me, I'm happy with it. Also, there are some 'passive devices', that's how I call them, which can support me in my off times, beside manual training. Extenders/Wraps and things like that. So my idea is to heal my dick in the 'off-time' during the day in the extender, which has a slight stretch. I'm really not talking about intensive stretching here, just a slight little stretch that my dick will heal in that slight extended state and stops turtling back, as mine always does while being flaccid. Cold water and sports are my biggest enemies here, it always turtles back and looks like an USB Stick then...

On top of that my flaccid dick doesn't even hang down like a normal flaccid dick, the angle is more like 110°-130° degrees, instead of 170° - 180° angle hanging down.
Another thing is, I'm having a turkey neck (Penoscrotal Webbing), which I want to get rid off over the next couple months. This also makes my dick, in flaccid and erect state look smaller significantly and just doesn't look. On top of that it's even annoying me very much more during this week since I've started PE exercises as the skin always get's pulled even more. So I want to get rid of it as soon as possible.
Additional to that, it seems like I have much skin on my fatpad and base, I don't know if it's because of my balls, turkey neck or whatsoever.
So you see, I've a lot of things I want to work on, beside all of the things listed above I won't mind getting a bigger dick in length and girth while working on solving those.
At last I will maybe also try to make my balls hang lower when I'm stretching my ballsack with some silicone cock-/ballrings, which I'll place between cock and balls.

My routine will be the SRT Routine of @DLD
But I will make it more individual as I'm testing a theory about length before girth (theory is also believed by @Jackxxx & @REDZULU2003).
Additionally to that I will also test an own theory in which I will use my Extender after a girth session. Not intense, just a slight stretch.
For Length sessions:
Manual training, Lengthmaster, hanging, Penimaster Pro, ACE Wrap/Mummy.
For Girth sessions:
Manual training, Bathmate, Air-Pump, Silicone Cable Clamp.
Getting rid of Turkey Neck:
Testicle Health Massage by @DLD & Reverse Erect Skin Stretch by @kong1971 .
Trying to lose skin and fat on fatpad:
Cold 'therapy' by myself + weightloss. Will try some methods out, but in the beginning I'll use ice cubes and place it on my fatpad.

My individual routine and idea:
I won't do intense Girth sessions. I want to increase BPFSL as much as I can. The only reason I'll do girth exercises right now is to make my BPEL grow to the increasing BPFSL from stretching.

Stretching sessions:
Manual Stretching, then using the lengthmaster for more intense stretches and after that I will do some hanging with the bundle chamber of my Lengthmaster. The second way of hanging will be 'upwards hanging' by a construction where you attach a carabiner on your ceiling and put a rope through it. Then you do 2 figure of eight knots at the start and the end. Place carabiners on both sides, through the figure of eight knots. Connect one side to your Lengthmaster and use the other side as place where you can hook in your weights. Credits belong to @TuffDong who's the inventor of that construction.
Girth sessions:
I will directly jelq a little bit and try to get into the bathmate or air-pump to push my BPEL to the increasing BPFSL. Also I will do lots of erect stretches to push and increase my BPEL as the skin and dick is already a little bit more stretched than usually after a stretching session. To maximize my erection during edging and trying to push the BPEL to more than normally I will use a silicone cable clamp with which I can control the pressure on my dick. In my opinion it's better than a regular clamp/cock ring because you can control the pressure and open and close it in seconds. Has the same effect like Ulis.

After manual work I will try to wear my extender or my ace wrap/mummy as much as I can during the day.
So mostly I will do all the training in the morning, afterwards put on my extender and all the time outside mostly going to wear ace wrap/mummy. Maybe I'll do another manual session in the evening but mostly trying to get used to the habit so the morning session is duty, the evening session is optional. My goal is to do 30min of manual training each day for the first 30 days and build a permanent habit out of it. Optionally I will do as much as I can, but 30min manual training a day is a must! Additionally to that wearing my extender or ace wrap/mummy as much as I can throughout the day.

Skincare for maximum healing:
I'm going to use multiple different oils as I'm testing which are the best ones for increased healing. On top of that for sure I got the advice of @DLD and will use: Hydrocortisone and Bacitracin. Myself I also got zinc cream as it also has some kind of healing effect for the skin. Last but not least I will also try and experiment with sports thermo oil, which is normally used for muscle relaxion as it has a warming effect, should be perfect for getting a great blood flow in my dick LOL
  • Hydrocortison cream 0,5%
  • Bacitracin cream
  • Zinc cream
  • Shea Butter Raw
  • argan oil, almond oil, apricot kernel oil, arnica oil, avocado oil, calendula oil, castor oil, coconut oil, grape seed oil, hemp seed oil, macadamia oil
  • Vitamin E oil
  • sports thermo oil
My Newbie Q&A in which I'm often asking questions about exercises, theories and some ideas:
https://mattersofsize.com/threads/f26-newbie-q-a.1819707/
 
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Summary - 1 month of PE (Original Link)

Penimaster extender time:
Belt system: 370 hours
Rod system: 70 hours
Total: 440 hours

Manual stretching time:
Total: 360min - 6 hours

LM stretching time:
Total: 250min - 4.16 hours

Testicle Health Massage:
Total: 3000 reps

Erect Stretches:
Total: 95min - 1.58 hours

Clamping while edging:
Total: 150min - 2.5 hours

Edging:
Total: 150min - 2.5 hours


This should sum it up pretty good.
I haven't calculated jelqing , hanging , penimaster weight system and pumping as I've just shortly looked into it in my first few days while testing the devices and testing the exercises.
If I compare my penimaster extender time with my manual time it makes me feel sad and makes me think I'm not doing enough LOL
Like what is around 18-20 hours of manual work in a month? Nearly nothing, less than 1h a day.

But I have to say that I've learned so much, especially in my first 2-3 weeks I was reading 2-4 hours every single day in the forum, reading theories, progress threads, checked exercise videos and had been a lot in contact with pe-vets who gave me a ton of knowledge based on their personal experience.

So this was my first month and I can say that I'm proud of my progress so far.
I haven't measured and won't measure until the end of my 3rd month!
 
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Wow! Amazing opening post, my brother!! You have come to motivate and inspire men from all walks of life. I commend you!

Bless'ed Love
 
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You gonna beat out Jermaine on the greasy scale with that arsenal of oils!

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Day 1:
  • 20min manual stretching
  • 10min stretching with Lengthmaster
  • Testicle Health Massage (2x 50 reps)
  • 10min hanging 2.5lbs, 5min hanging 5lbs
  • 10min jelqing
  • 5min pumping on 2.5hg
  • 5min low clamping with silicone cable tie and edging
  • 5min Bathmate (40% pressure)
  • 1h wearing Mummy
  • 2h wearing Penimaster belt system
During manual stretching my glans gets swollen and builds some water/lymph at the very top. Goes away after some heli-shakes LOL Is it normal in the beginning? If I wouldn't grip as hard as I do I won't be able to do intense stretching. Also I still have to fight with some sudden erections during stretching.
Doing Jelqing on around 30-50% EQ right now.
Can't go to maximum pressure in Bathmate, 50-60% right now I guess. Could have lasted longer than 5min in Bathmate but slowly want to increase to not get injured.
 
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I wouldn't do any intense manual work just yet. Intense work should only be used to SHOCK. You don't want to toughen up the tissue this early in your PE journey. Picture the stalk of a plant under stress (high, steady wind, etc). You want to keep everything loose and pliable.
 
Day 2:
  • 20min manual stretching
  • 10min stretching with Lengthmaster
  • Testicle Health Massage (2x 50 reps)
  • 10min hanging 2.5lbs, 10min hanging 5lbs
  • 5x5x2 Jelqing/Pumping (2.5hg) - 5min jelqs, 5min pumping, 5min jelqs, 5min pumping
  • 5min clamping with silicone cable tie and edging
  • 5min Bathmate (60% pressure)
  • 2h wearing Mummy
  • 2h wearing Penimaster belt system
  • 1h wearing Penimaster rod system

More intensity on the Testicle Health Massage today, it still hurts a little bit as my skin isn't used to be stretched down there but I can see what the exercise should cause longterm. Thanks to @DLD, really hope my stupid turkey neck goes away in a few months when I'm doing this daily.
Raw Shea Butter makes your dick skin smooth like baby skin, but be prepared, this cream smells like... find it out yourself!
Added: As @REDZULU2003 recommends, warming up before hanging (of course), but now also 'cooling down' afterwards.

Found a great video thread of @Lightning in how to wrap with the Lengthmaster, here are so many hidden videos/instructions, you really have to dig deep to find them LOL ? Length Master User Instructions and Support Thread… - Matters of Size | Penis Enlargement, Body Modifications & Peyronies Forums ?

As there are so many exercises in DLDs video library ? Audio / Video Page ? I'm still learning some new stretching exercises daily, it's like learning some vocabulary in a new language.
 
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Day 3: (huge success)
  • 20min manual stretching
  • 10min stretching with Lengthmaster
  • Testicle Health Massage (2x 50 reps)
  • 15min hanging 2.5lbs, 10min hanging 5lbs
  • 5x5x2 Jelqing/Pumping (2.5hg) - 5min jelqs, 5min pumping, 5min jelqs, 5min pumping
  • 5min clamping with silicone cable tie and edging
  • 2x5min Bathmate (40% pressure - more time, less pressure)
  • 14h wearing Penimaster belt system
  • 2h wearing Penimaster rod system

Guys, today I did 16h in the extender!
I've made a decision to not care what others think about it anymore and wear it out in public
, even thought it creates a little bulge to the side you wear it, but you can hide it a little bit when you wear more loose clothes.

I'm so freaking happy right now, I hope that I can very soon accustom myself in any way to also wear it during sleeping, but it will be difficult because of the erections we get during sleep and that I will pull it off during sleep (happened before during naps when I tested it).
Actually there is a trick with the Penimaster to safe lots of time, you don't need to take off the belt system during going to toilet, you can attach the 'hook' which you normally connect to your glans chamber, to one of the mounts of the belt system (ring mounts). So you don't need to take it off and on again :)
For the most and easy way wearing it during public: Instead of using the pump ball to create a vacuum everytime to put on your glans chamber after going to toilet, you will use the hosepipe system. It takes some skill and learning to use it, but it is much more portable and easier to hide in your pockets. So for wearing it in public you willst just need 2 things to take with you: 1) Hosepipe system 2) PM Comfort & Care Gel (or something similar).

My glans still gets swollen and filled up with lymp/water after using it. Not a big problem as it's not too bad, it's just at the very top. Feels a little hard then and kind of filled with water, is that bad? Or is it even a benefit and is training my glans to gain more girth?
Doing always some heli-shakes on the toilet to get rid of it a little and at home massaging it, disappears easily then.
 
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Day 4: (first little injury)
  • 20min manual stretching
  • 10min stretching with Lengthmaster
  • Testicle Health Massage (2x 50 reps)
  • 20min hanging 2.5lbs, 10min hanging 5lbs, 5min hanging 7.5lbs
  • 5min jelqing
  • 5min clamping with silicone cable tie and edging
  • 5min bathmate (was just testing wine vacuum mod, works great)
  • 4h wearing Mummy
  • 8h wearing Penimaster belt system

Oh damn, it happened...
I got my first little injury after hanging that's why I needed to go slow for the rest of the day with Jelqing, Pumping, Bathmate and wearing my Extender.

Injury: Swollen glans, swollen a lot around the pee-hole and red-ish.
Solution: Massaging a little bit, warming it, hydrocortisone, bacitractin and some rest. Heli-shakes and Firestarter exercise of @TuffDong
Why did it occur? Talked to some experienced people in hanging weights, lots of them said it's normal in the beginning and that it can happen as it's new for the dick and it needs to adapt to it.

I'll keep on track exactly what happens the next days, also I'll learn more about the best methods or wrapping the dick before hanging as I've found out personally that a good wrap is making a huge difference while hanging weights. Need to be more skilled in it and test a lot.
Great thing what I'm testing: As the injury still isn't healed 100% I'm wearing a Mummy instead of the Extender. In that why my glans don't get affected (like)
 
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Sounds like you're doing too much work. There is no rush, your penis can only grow so fast, scale back your routine when you come back after healing.

@F26

Just like us men who have the habit of wanting to go ALL IN...

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Curb your enthusiasm for a bit and remember this is a journey (marathon)...not a sprint.

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It's really tricky scaling back at first once you tasted it, so just enjoy the whole experience, and gain your own first hand accounts from doing the methods.

I'm time however, you will scale back, change things, and take extended rests for growth.
 
Your enthusiasm is incredible and if your caution is paired with your enthusiasm you should be safe. Some men can put in a lot of time and work and others need less, it’s a very personal thing. So in all things you do take your time and be sure that you’re safe but if you’re able to put in more work put in more work.
 
Sounds like you're doing too much work. There is no rush, your penis can only grow so fast, scale back your routine when you come back after healing.

You're right, health and preventing injuries is always priority number 1 brother ?
It wasn't too bad. If I ever have 'bad' injuries you can be sure I'm 100% taking a break for a few days and focusing on healing.
But to make always sure I'm on the safe site I'll always contact our pe vets here in the forum and ask them about it :) and they especially said it's normal that it can occur in the beginning of hanging. As I'm not pushing through the limits and have a good feeling of my body due to pain or other things my priority 1 is always to be safe and I would recommend that to everybody else too.

What I maybe forgot to write is that I didn't had any pain and it was just visual, red-ish at the very top and a little swollen around the pee-hole, the swelling often also happened in the beginning with the Penimaster after a few hours of when I did some intense stretching. It goes away in 30-60min after it occurs, normally it just is lymph water or how it is called.
Also I put in around 60-90min to massage my dick & glans, put creams on it 3-5 times over the day and warmed it up several time, I'm also using some thermo sports oil which is increasing the blood flow to a good level for maximum healing.
On top of that I did some edging to get a great bloodflow in my dick/glans which was able to reduce the visual apperance of the injury from 100% down to around 10-20% in a very short amount of time. Then I did some heli-shakes and firestarts spread over the day and it was nearly gone. Before sleeping I put on some hydrocortisone and bacitracin and as I woke up today it was gone :)


@REDZULU2003 @DLD @Haursen
As I've written here before or in my Newbie Q&A, right now I'm checking out a little bit which works the best for me and also testing a lot of exercises.
However I've set myself a duty of 30min of training per day, this is duty. If I have some more time - I will do more. If I don't have time, I still do my 30min LOL
I'm all about being productive and saving time, as time is the only thing we can't get back in life if we waste it. Here I wrote something how I'm actually doing it: https://mattersofsize.com/threads/f26-newbie-q-a.1819707/post-1862123
As I don't know about the results, I will try to wear my extender (Penimaster) for as long as I can. So even if I 'just' have 30min of training, I will still have an extender time of at least 10-12h a day.
The most time right now takes 'hanging' + the wrapping with goes in with it too, but I'm figuring out some stuff to improve that and will let you know then!


as @REDZULU2003 said, there is no way I can do this forever and as time comes, I will most likely scale back. That's the truth! But then I still want to use my 'passive gadgets' like Penimaster and wear it as long as I can. Also using the Bathmate during showering and will do some stretching before sleep/after waking up when I'm in the bed. Maybe one day I'll be even succesful wearing the extender at night, would love that!
But currently I'm trying to get the best newbie gains, so it's a day to day hustle. If I ever feal exhausted in the beginning right now - I will still wear my extender and using the Bathmate a few mins in the Shower. That's why I actually got the devices, because I know that nature made us somekind of lazy and tries to bang in all kind of excuses if we're not feeling in the mood, so at least I can use those devices and have done something (monkey)
 
Day 5: (injury gone, adapting to a long extender time)
  • 20min manual stretching
  • 10min stretching with Lengthmaster
  • Testicle Health Massage (2x 50 reps)
  • 20min hanging 2.5lbs, 15min hanging 5lbs, 5min hanging 7.5lbs
  • 5x5x2 Jelqing/Pumping (2.5hg) - 5min jelqs, 5min pumping, 5min jelqs, 5min pumping
  • 5min clamping with silicone cable tie and edging
  • 2x5min Bathmate (around 60-70% pressure at the end)
  • 1h wearing mummy
  • 14h wearing Penimaster belt system
  • 2h wearing Penimaster rod system
As I've forgot about this, tomorrow is time to learn and start training kegels... :confused:
Shall I directly go for both sort of kegels - normal kegels and reverse kegels or should I just learn the normal kegels in the beginning and also only train them?
 
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