Reber187 said:
3lee
do NOT begin to dabble with mushroms, or any other drug for that matter. your addiction(im not a fan of this word) problem is booze, don't make it 2 problems, or 3 problems... you see where im going with this.
i've seen a ruck of elements of yourself from what you describe in people i know and have known. trust me, THEY ALL END UP DOING HEROIN coz its the end of the line. some came back from it, some still struggle, some are gone forever.
im in no position to offer any other advice, so take care of yourself.
keep pushing
Hey bud. I replied to your PM. Just been busy.
On subject....
I disagree that lee is addicted, at this point, and I see signs in him recently that say he is steering away from even the possibility of becoming a habitual abuser and addict of anything - and hopefully that will be the case.
I don't think he has been drinking but for a few months, in which case he would not really be a psychological or physical addict. Plus, in his recent posts he seems to be learning his limits, as we all do, and showing a healthy relationship with alcohol by taking control of his drinking rather than letting it control him. This is far from addiction or alcoholism, in my opinion and experience.
3lee said:
i have started drinking again, AFTER studying up on how it effects the body, and now i do it just for fun on the weekends when Im with friends. I still use Everclear every so often but no where near as much as I did. Ive found Bud Light is my fav. Anyway...just an update and thanks for careing.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forumn...er-i-almost-died-2-nights-ago.html#post271804
PenilePersist said:
...... it seems that lee is becoming one of plenty of healthy, responsible people who contribute the best to their families, friends and fellow citizens while responsibly enjoying alcohol. This is no surprise, considering that lee seemed to simply have so rough beginning based simply on lack of experience leading to overindulging.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forumnew/deep-thoughts/30988-fuck-all-2.html#post273364
Myself and most of the friends I have ever had in life have been where lee is with substance experimentation and curiousity and taken it much further with much more eclectic, habitual, frequent and excessive uses of various substances simultaneously ....including but not limited to alcohol, pot, opium, coke, acid, shrooms, ecstasy, prescription meds and more.
Few of us smoked crack, one of us shot up - out of maybe 50 people in my old "clique" at minimum. Now, my sister's old clique is a different story as they were all about speed and heroine and meth and that mess, so I learned from them as well.
Lee is obviously a man who undertsands the importance of and responsibility to family and friends, and who is stating that this is all new to him, he is trying to come to terms with changes in his life as he grows up, and he is quickly learning from newb drinking mistakes to the point where he is controlling his alcohol like most responsible drinkers do.
Having said that, I really think it is far too early to judge lee like this at all to the point where such concern is thoughtful but hugely overreacting in my opinion. And, again, I really don't see lee ever heading in that direction at this point and I hope I'm right.
However, having said all of that, I would also agree that it won't hurt to remind somebody like lee, or explain to them, that discipline with substances is very important ..... and responsibilities, lively activity and safety come first ..... because there is a fine line that one can eventually cross that leads to a slippery slope of problems. That fine line is largely determined by realizing what you are doing to yourself and that moderation and constant evaluation and re-evaluation of your experiences and reactions is extremely important .... and I think lee is beginning to really understand that instead of taking it in one year as it leaves the other. I think lee will steer clear and he has all my hopes in that regard.
