Discoloration since 8 Months still not going away

[Cristiano1]

Hello everyone, I came across this forum by chance due to a problem with the strong discoloration of my penis caused by iron deposits. I'm from Germany and unfortunately I couldn't really find a solution to my problem in the German forums.

A quick note: I don't train my penis at all like you do, and I've never done that.

Unfortunately, this happened to me as a one-off incident. Apparently due to too much strong external manual pressure (hand), no pump or anything else.

The discoloration happened about 7-8 months ago and is still quite dark and runs in the shape of a long line underneath the penis. Basically nothing has changed, it's stayed the same. It really bothers me a lot and I'm afraid it might stay that way. When there's more blood flow to the penis or when cream is applied, the area is darker.

Niacinamide serum is also mentioned here in the forum, has anyone tried that? Retinol was also mentioned once. I've only tried 1% cortisone cream for a week. But no change.
Would it be also helpful to post a pic from it?

My question now is, are there any new solvents to get rid of it? Or maybe some that you would like to share your experiences with?

Unfortunately, I have also seen some posts where it was apparently irreversible for some, so I am trying to gather as much information as I can.

Also I wanna mention, these fire goat rolls didn't help. It is pretty stressful. Thank you for the help.

 

[oldandlively]

Those who have natural darken raphe or easily dark raphe tend to use salicylic acid and related serum concentration to lighten up the skin. There are many other creams at night you can use, or even throughout the days for hyperpigmentation. We can't tell you which one as each one matches the skin type of each person.

I personally use salicylic acid serum with formulas focus on hyperpigmentation. Some of my darker brothers use Adure Natural Fairness Creme bought locally. Some brothers and sisters also use 2% hydroquinone, serums with azalaic or glycolic acid, and my wife uses retinoid with Vit E and C for her darker lady parts after too much sun exposures.

 

[Cristiano1]

Those who have natural darken raphe or easily dark raphe tend to use salicylic acid and related serum concentration to lighten up the skin. There are many other creams at night you can use, or even throughout the days for hyperpigmentation. We can't tell you which one as each one matches the skin type of each person.

I personally use salicylic acid serum with formulas focus on hyperpigmentation. Some of my darker brothers use Adure Natural Fairness Creme bought locally. Some brothers and sisters also use 2% hydroquinone, serums with azalaic or glycolic acid, and my wife uses retinoid with Vit E and C for her darker lady parts after too much sun exposures.

Hello brother, thanks for the answer. Well, hydroquinone is not available in Germany. As for the other things like salicylic acid and retinoid, they are. But aren't these acids too irritating, especially for this sensitive area? To be honest, I don't know what exactly helps. You mentioned that it goes away on its own if you stop exercising. Well, I don't exercise and it's been 8 months and there's absolutely no change. Is that normal? Or does it take longer? Since you mentioned retinal, I have a serum from Geek & Gorgeous
A-Game 5, it says, I use it for my face. Would that possibly help my penis too?

 

[oldandlively]

Hello brother, thanks for the answer. Well, hydroquinone is not available in Germany. As for the other things like salicylic acid and retinoid, they are. But aren't these acids too irritating, especially for this sensitive area? To be honest, I don't know what exactly helps. You mentioned that it goes away on its own if you stop exercising. Well, I don't exercise and it's been 8 months and there's absolutely no change. Is that normal? Or does it take longer? Since you mentioned retinal, I have a serum from Geek & Gorgeous
A-Game 5, it says, I use it for my face. Would that possibly help my penis too?

Yes. For the raphe, it's quite common. It's a natural dividing visual line. Think of it as a birth mark that can easily be influenced by hyperpigmentation. It will go away, but the darken line can remains for months to years. I have no issue with it. Mine remained darken for around 2 years and lighten up. Not sure when since I don't check it constantly.

The acids in serums used external. Your penile skin is very thick. The acid does not irritates you, or should not be. However, everyone is different based on sensitivity. Give the serum a try. Retinoid should not cause any issue. Give a test spot a try on the penile shaft along that raphe. Don't aplly the entire penis. Just a single spot no more than 1cm in length. If nothing happens after a week, use it twice to three times a day. Take a photo of the first day to the 2 months later. That's when you truly see the major changes.

 

[Cristiano1]

Yes. For the raphe, it's quite common. It's a natural dividing visual line. Think of it as a birth mark that can easily be influenced by hyperpigmentation. It will go away, but the darken line can remains for months to years. I have no issue with it. Mine remained darken for around 2 years and lighten up. Not sure when since I don't check it constantly.

The acids in serums used external. Your penile skin is very thick. The acid does not irritates you, or should not be. However, everyone is different based on sensitivity. Give the serum a try. Retinoid should not cause any issue. Give a test spot a try on the penile shaft along that raphe. Don't aplly the entire penis. Just a single spot no more than 1cm in length. If nothing happens after a week, use it twice to three times a day. Take a photo of the first day to the 2 months

I've included a picture so you can better imagine what I mean. I didn't have the discoloration before, it happened after the accident where too much pressure was applied once. I had nothing before that. And as I said, it's been completely unchanged for 8 months, not even getting any lighter. That's really frustrating. Was it that dark for you too?

 

[Cristiano1]

This is what it looks like after 8 months, just like the first day it happened.

 

[oldandlively]

Yep. Mine was as dark. It takes a long while to lighten up naturally. It goes away faster with lightening agents. It's quite natural for joining points, such as scars, to be darkened much easier and most areas during hyperpigmentation.

 

[Cristiano1]

Yep. Mine was as dark. It takes a long while to lighten up naturally. It goes away faster with lightening agents. It's quite natural for joining points, such as scars, to be darkened much easier and most areas during hyperpigmentation.

That's really depressing, I wonder if it will ever go away.

What would be more effective? Retinoid or Salicylic Acid? How many percent Salicylic acid do you use? I also used 1% cortisone cream for a week but nothing changed. Neither got worse nor better. Cortisone is probably not helpful in this case, is it?

 

[oldandlively]

That's really depressing, I wonder if it will ever go away.

What would be more effective? Retinoid or Salicylic Acid? How many percent Salicylic acid do you use? I also used 1% cortisone cream for a week but nothing changed. Neither got worse nor better. Cortisone is probably not helpful in this case, is it?

It's natural process. Not sure why the darken raphe line causes so much grief unless you are doing entertainment jobs.

I can't tell you which is better. Each person's skin respond differently. My wife's and son's skin do better with retinoids. My daughter and I do better with salicylic acid products. Cortisone cream doesn't work for everyone. It's more antiinflammatory than skin lightening.

 

[Cristiano1]

It's natural process. Not sure why the darken raphe line causes so much grief unless you are doing entertainment jobs.

I can't tell you which is better. Each person's skin respond differently. My wife's and son's skin do better with retinoids. My daughter and I do better with salicylic acid products. Cortisone cream doesn't work for everyone. It's more antiinflammatory than skin lightening.

It's annoying because I've never had anything like this before. And it just looks weird. I'm going to start with the retinoid and apply it once a day. And see how it develops after a week. What percentage of salicylic acid do you use? Did you use it when you had your discoloration? For how long you used it?

 

[oldandlively]

It's annoying because I've never had anything like this before. And it just looks weird. I'm going to start with the retinoid and apply it once a day. And see how it develops after a week.

Give it at least 3 weeks to see a major difference. You won't see much during the first 2 weeks.

What percentage of salicylic acid do you use? Did you use it when you had your discoloration? For how long you used it?

Most formulation is 2%. I have 2% and 5%. For the 2%, I use it every day for 5 days, 2 days off. Remember, it's can make your skin dry and irritated if your skin doesn't have tolerance for it. Since I use oil and cream too, that doesn't become a problem. Days off is to provide my skin to rejuvenate from the use of the acid.

5%, that's from prescription base. I use it 1 day on, 1 day off.

I noticed the changes on the third week for the 2%. The 5%, same thing. The discoloration lighten faster than 2%. I'd you don't do any PE while using the salicylic acid products, as mine is just straight up buffer and salicylic concentration, it takes around 3 months for the dark color like yours to be lighten more than half the discoloration. Fourth month, it became practically normal like before, blending in very well with the rest of the skin tone.

 

[Cristiano1]

Give it at least 3 weeks to see a major difference. You won't see much during the first 2 weeks.


Most formulation is 2%. I have 2% and 5%. For the 2%, I use it every day for 5 days, 2 days off. Remember, it's can make your skin dry and irritated if your skin doesn't have tolerance for it. Since I use oil and cream too, that doesn't become a problem. Days off is to provide my skin to rejuvenate from the use of the acid.

5%, that's from prescription base. I use it 1 day on, 1 day off.

I noticed the changes on the third week for the 2%. The 5%, same thing. The discoloration lighten faster than 2%. I'd you don't do any PE while using the salicylic acid products, as mine is just straight up buffer and salicylic concentration, it takes around 3 months for the dark color like yours to be lighten more than half the discoloration. Fourth month, it became practically normal like before, blending in very well with the rest of the skin tone.

I would like to thank you for giving me a few tips. It gives me a little hope that I might be able to get rid of the discoloration. Although I don't want to get too excited too soon, as nothing has happened on its own for so long.

I am using already all the things you mentioned on my face, a 2% BHA serum (salicylic acid), as well as a retinoid serum (0.05% retinal). So I already have what I need to start the treatment. What you say about how you use the salicylic acid sounds very interesting. I just don't dare to use it on such a sensitive area "yet". So I'm still undecided about what to start with, but I think I'll try the retinol first, maybe it will do an effect.

Although from your description it sounds a bit like Salicylic acid is more potent and promising. When do you use the creams or oils to soothe the skin a few hours later?

As for PE Training, I've never practiced PE. Not even now. That's why I'm still wondering how something like that could have happened to me just by applying too much pressure once. Is it even allowed to have sex during the Acid or Retinoid treatment? If its irritates the skin in that area?

 

[oldandlively]

I would like to thank you for giving me a few tips. It gives me a little hope that I might be able to get rid of the discoloration. Although I don't want to get too excited too soon, as nothing has happened on its own for so long.

I am using already all the things you mentioned on my face, a 2% BHA serum (salicylic acid), as well as a retinoid serum (0.05% retinal). So I already have what I need to start the treatment. What you say about how you use the salicylic acid sounds very interesting. I just don't dare to use it on such a sensitive area "yet". So I'm still undecided about what to start with, but I think I'll try the retinol first, maybe it will do an effect.

If you already use it on your face, the rest of the body will respond the same way. There should not be any sensitivity or reaction.

Do make sure to allow 1 to 2 hours of non-contact or disturbance of the serum from the applied area.

Although from your description it sounds a bit like Salicylic acid is more potent and promising. When do you use the creams or oils to soothe the skin a few hours later?

Yes. Once salicylic acid has a chance to work its magic after a few hours, you can wash it off and apply skin restoration or just hydration. I left mine on there thoughout the night after it dried up and use lotion in the morning.

As for PE Training, I've never practiced PE. Not even now. That's why I'm still wondering how something like that could have happened to me just by applying too much pressure once.

Yes, it happens even at one or two times. It even happens when you use cock rings for sex. Cock ring is both a constriction and restriction device that causes discoloration, depending on how much blood becomes vasoconstricted. It's like a semi-active penis pumping and jelqing.

Is it even allowed to have sex during the Acid or Retinoid treatment? If its irritates the skin in that area?

Yes. If you applied it on, you can wash it off any time. Best to leave it on at least an hour for the acid to have a chance to lighten the skin. Otherwise, it's a waste. And no, your partner won't get lighten lips (mouth or vagina) from exposing to any possible acid residue. It takes quite a bit of concentration to hurt the body.

The irritated area will cause you discomforts if your skin cracks or dries up. Otherwise, there is no issue, unless you have sexual disease that transmits via blood to bodily fluid from the irritated area. Same applies for dirty contaminated surfaces that touch your open wound from the irritated area.

 

[bemorethanbig]

Unfortunately, this happened to me as a one-off incident. Apparently due to too much strong external manual pressure (hand), no pump or anything else.

I don't understand, you say you did not do PE but you did one very strong manual stretch? Why did you do that? for PE?

Anyways, I wish once it happened you would done RED + NIR treatment and spoken to 3 doctors about it. I still think RED + NIR will restore you to healthy penis although I am not sure about discoloration as there are mix reviews if RED + NIR helps with this or not. I believe it improves it or does not give it when doing PE but that is my observation only.

SO if you did firegoat rolls without improvement I do suggest RED + NIR as an alternative

 

[Cristiano1]

If you already use it on your face, the rest of the body will respond the same way. There should not be any sensitivity or reaction.

Do make sure to allow 1 to 2 hours of non-contact or disturbance of the serum from the applied area.


Yes. Once salicylic acid has a chance to work its magic after a few hours, you can wash it off and apply skin restoration or just hydration. I left mine on there thoughout the night after it dried up and use lotion in the morning.


Yes, it happens even at one or two times. It even happens when you use cock rings for sex. Cock ring is both a constriction and restriction device that causes discoloration, depending on how much blood becomes vasoconstricted. It's like a semi-active penis pumping and jelqing.


Yes. If you applied it on, you can wash it off any time. Best to leave it on at least an hour for the acid to have a chance to lighten the skin. Otherwise, it's a waste. And no, your partner won't get lighten lips (mouth or vagina) from exposing to any possible acid residue. It takes quite a bit of concentration to hurt the body.

The irritated area will cause you discomforts if your skin cracks or dries up. Otherwise, there is no issue, unless you have sexual disease that transmits via blood to bodily fluid from the irritated area. Same applies for dirty contaminated surfaces that touch your open wound from the irritated area.

Well, with the Salicylic acid, my skin had to get used to it. At first it was a bit irritated and dry, which is why I am a bit concerned, because the skin around the penis is a bit more sensitive and thinner than the skin on the face. Facial skin can tolerate a bit more.

What I forgot to ask is, do you use it as a lotion, gel, cream or liquid form the Salicylic acid? Because I use the Salicylic acid in liquid form for my face from Paula's Choice and the retinal as a cream. Do you have a product you can recommend? Would a lotion be better than a liquid one? The skin absorbs it best in liquid form, or at least that is what they say.

 

[Cristiano1]

Another thing that occurred to me is that using retinal and salicylic acid one day alternately wouldn't be a good idea, would it? You shouldn't use the two together on your face. Because of skin irritation.

 

[Cristiano1]

I don't understand, you say you did not do PE but you did one very strong manual stretch? Why did you do that? for PE?

Anyways, I wish once it happened you would done RED + NIR treatment and spoken to 3 doctors about it. I still think RED + NIR will restore you to healthy penis although I am not sure about discoloration as there are mix reviews if RED + NIR helps with this or not. I believe it improves it or does not give it when doing PE but that is my observation only.

SO if you did firegoat rolls without improvement I do suggest RED + NIR as an alternative

Well, if I were to go into detail, I didn't cause this discoloration. My girlfriend did when she applied too much pressure. It wouldn't have happened to me. And in the end it wasn't that hard, but apparently it was enough. That it discolored like that. And of course that annoys me. But now it's happened and I have to try to limit the damage as best I can. At the beginning I went to a urologist and had myself examined. Because at first I thought this discoloration was a bruise. But the urologist said everything was fine. And he couldn't do anything about the discoloration, I should ask a dermatologist. Apart from that I don't have any restrictions, it's just this discoloration. I'm not so sure whether the RED + NIR treatment would help with something like this. Besides, I live in Germany, it would be too much work to order something from here when I can try other things first that are easier for me to get.

 

[kriskros]

Did you find any solution?

 

[oldandlively]

Well, with the Salicylic acid, my skin had to get used to it. At first it was a bit irritated and dry, which is why I am a bit concerned, because the skin around the penis is a bit more sensitive and thinner than the skin on the face. Facial skin can tolerate a bit more.

If you use it along the shaft, the skin of the penile shaft is as thick as the facial. It doesn't create as much oil so you do need to add lotion a few hours after application. Any good Vit A and E skin healing lotion will do. Even coconut oil will do just fine.

What I forgot to ask is, do you use it as a lotion, gel, cream or liquid form the Salicylic acid?

My family only use the liquid base. We don't use the cream, lotion, or gel type. Those have too much filler. The liquid form is glyceride as buffer. We want that full 2% or 5% to work its magic without any form of interference.

Because I use the Salicylic acid in liquid form for my face from Paula's Choice and the retinal as a cream. Do you have a product you can recommend? Would a lotion be better than a liquid one? The skin absorbs it best in liquid form, or at least that is what they say.

Retinoids in a cream is needed. Retinoids get spoiled too fast in its natural and refined state. All salicylic acid in liquid form is the same. No one is superior than the other. I use West & Month serum as they are the cheaper and still as effective. I believe it's around 2.5 Euro. No need to spend on expensive materials the hyped promises.

As for retinal serum, it's the same. 1% is the common, and 2% to 3% is considered prescription. I got my hands on 5% as well. I believe the brand is called The Ordinary for the general public to purchase. But retinoids are mainly for repairing skin, and only a smaller portion of the skin repair going into lightening the skin. Just keep that in mind when you use it.

 

[Cristiano1]

Did you find any solution?

I will start this treatment routine which @oldandlively recommended from now on and then I can say more about it. As to what exactly will help. And which solution will work out. But I think this treatment requires patience. It will be a marathon not a sprint. Hope it works.

 

[oldandlively]

Unfortunately, there is no sudden miracle solution. We alter our bodies in ways that far exceeded the natural phenomena and the body can only keep up to a certain extent. Using other methods to compensate will take a bit of time. Lengthening of the penis or expansion of the penis is the same process. It's truly is a marathon and not a sprint.

 

[Cristiano1]

If you use it along the shaft, the skin of the penile shaft is as thick as the facial. It doesn't create as much oil so you do need to add lotion a few hours after application. Any good Vit A and E skin healing lotion will do. Even coconut oil will do just fine.


My family only use the liquid base. We don't use the cream, lotion, or gel type. Those have too much filler. The liquid form is glyceride as buffer. We want that full 2% or 5% to work its magic without any form of interference.


Retinoids in a cream is needed. Retinoids get spoiled too fast in its natural and refined state. All salicylic acid in liquid form is the same. No one is superior than the other. I use West & Month serum as they are the cheaper and still as effective. I believe it's around 2.5 Euro. No need to spend on expensive materials the hyped promises.

As for retinal serum, it's the same. 1% is the common, and 2% to 3% is considered prescription. I got my hands on 5% as well. I believe the brand is called The Ordinary for the general public to purchase. But retinoids are mainly for repairing skin, and only a smaller portion of the skin repair going into lightening the skin. Just keep that in mind when you use it.

Your knowledge of all this is very impressive. I will probably start with the salicylic acid treatment now instead of the Retinal. All of this will require a lot of patience anyway and I think, as you mentioned, the retinal may not be able to achieve its full potential when it comes to lightening the spots in particular.

I have already waited 8 months and nothing has happened. So I finally want to make some visible progress. Unfortunately we don't have the West & Month brand in Germany. What I am using for my face now is from Paula's Choice, it's called: Extra Strength 2% BHA Peeling. Do you know it? Would it be suitable for my treatment? I would then use it once a day on the shaft.

What I would also be interested to know is that you mentioned that it faded for you after about 2 years. So are those 2 years with the daily treatment included? Would it have gone away so quickly in that time without this helping things like Salicylic Acid?

There's also a user here called Filmfreak. He also seems to have had severe discoloration as far as I can tell reading the posts, and he got rid of it in the end. But with what exactly?

I just have the feeling that even if I wait without actively doing anything about it, it won't go away. Our body is a miracle of nature and has fascinating self-healing powers. But in the case of iron deposits in the skin, it is not so easy to remove them.

 

[oldandlively]

Your knowledge of all this is very impressive.

There are quite a few brothers here that know quite a bit more than I do. They like to remain quiet, right brothers? I know who you are and lurking in the background while grinning at me.

I will probably start with the salicylic acid treatment now instead of the Retinal. All of this will require a lot of patience anyway and I think, as you mentioned, the retinal may not be able to achieve its full potential when it comes to lightening the spots in particular.

Correct. Just have a bit of patience and the skin will lighten up. If it doesn't work, we'll go to the next level.

I have already waited 8 months and nothing has happened. So I finally want to make some visible progress. Unfortunately we don't have the West & Month brand in Germany. What I am using for my face now is from Paula's Choice, it's called: Extra Strength 2% BHA Peeling. Do you know it? Would it be suitable for my treatment? I would then use it once a day on the shaft.

If you can't find West & Month brand locally, you can find them all over the place on the internet for delivery. They are cheap, and they can arrive anywhere. I believe their main flagship sites are based out of China and India, where as Amazon is based out of the USA. Since they are based out of China and India, there is much less restriction on shipment to Europe countries.

What I would also be interested to know is that you mentioned that it faded for you after about 2 years. So are those 2 years with the daily treatment included?

Nope. They went away on their own after 2 years. It takes a bit of time for the body to migrate all the excesses out of the penis. Unfortunately, during this time, you have to be sexually active to get the blood to flow into and out of the penis. If you just leave it as is, there's no blood to migrate the accumulative materials in the penile shaft. It remains darken if there's no blood movement.

Would it have gone away so quickly in that time without this helping things like Salicylic Acid?

Since salicylic acid is an agent that actively works to bleach the discoloration away, it takes less time than the natural processes. Imagine a dirty caked on surface being washed away by rain versuses you taking a hose or a power washer out and blast away the grimes.

There's also a user here called Filmfreak. He also seems to have had severe discoloration as far as I can tell reading the posts, and he got rid of it in the end. But with what exactly?

It's a combination of what we've discussed and time. He used the lactic acid (it's a refined salt and latic acid called Ultraplex), combined with sylicalic acid and lactate acids. They are exfoliation chemical cocktails used by ladies in their late years. I believe the brand name is called AM Lactin, Aquaphor and CeraVe (which we use at home as post-beach day skin care). It's practically a more expensive approach for healing and exfoliation in a single step, and time.

I just have the feeling that even if I wait without actively doing anything about it, it won't go away. Our body is a miracle of nature and has fascinating self-healing powers. But in the case of iron deposits in the skin, it is not so easy to remove them.

Iron deposits can be removed, but blood has to constantly go through the penis. 22 hours of the day, blood doesn't flow through your penis. So, you can understand why. Hyperpigmentation due to iron and dead blood remnants needs pathway to remove themselves of the cellular gaps. Think about your butt and facial regions where blood moves quite freely. Your penis, it's a spotty dead zone.

 

[Cristiano1]

There are quite a few brothers here that know quite a bit more than I do. They like to remain quiet, right brothers? I know who you are and lurking in the background while grinning at me.


Correct. Just have a bit of patience and the skin will lighten up. If it doesn't work, we'll go to the next level.


If you can't find West & Month brand locally, you can find them all over the place on the internet for delivery. They are cheap, and they can arrive anywhere. I believe their main flagship sites are based out of China and India, where as Amazon is based out of the USA. Since they are based out of China and India, there is much less restriction on shipment to Europe countries.


Nope. They went away on their own after 2 years. It takes a bit of time for the body to migrate all the excesses out of the penis. Unfortunately, during this time, you have to be sexually active to get the blood to flow into and out of the penis. If you just leave it as is, there's no blood to migrate the accumulative materials in the penile shaft. It remains darken if there's no blood movement.


Since salicylic acid is an agent that actively works to bleach the discoloration away, it takes less time than the natural processes. Imagine a dirty caked on surface being washed away by rain versuses you taking a hose or a power washer out and blast away the grimes.


It's a combination of what we've discussed and time. He used the lactic acid (it's a refined salt and latic acid called Ultraplex), combined with sylicalic acid and lactate acids. They are exfoliation chemical cocktails used by ladies in their late years. I believe the brand name is called AM Lactin, Aquaphor and CeraVe (which we use at home as post-beach day skin care). It's practically a more expensive approach for healing and exfoliation in a single step, and time.


Iron deposits can be removed, but blood has to constantly go through the penis. 22 hours of the day, blood doesn't flow through your penis. So, you can understand why. Hyperpigmentation due to iron and dead blood remnants needs pathway to remove themselves of the cellular gaps. Think about your butt and facial regions where blood moves quite freely. Your penis, it's a spotty dead zone.

OK, so the other brothers are holding back and watching your performance. I had to laugh.

At least I can only say that you have already been able to help me with your knowledge and I hope that it will be just as good in practice. At least I have "some slightly" hope. Because as is often the case, when you see it, you believe that you are on the road to recovery.

I will do some research on West & Month.
But for now I will test what I have here. I don't know if I can put a link here, then you would have been able to see whether the product is any good.

It's interesting what you mentioned about the blood flow to the penis. Would a daily light manually massage also have the same effect of breaking down Iron more quickly? Or would it make things more worse, because of the pressure? Or does it only have to be sexual intercourse? Because blood flow to the penis for hours every day is of course not possible.

If the discoloration went away on its own for you and was as dark as mine, did you help it in some way to stimulate the blood flow? and Was it still so dark looking after 8 months?Why did you actually have to use the Salicylic acid if you no longer had any discoloration? Is there another benefit to doing something like that to the penis? Because I wouldn't use it voluntarily without a reason. The only thing I used just for skin care before this accident happened was Coconut oil, nothing else.

 

[oldandlively]

OK, so the other brothers are holding back and watching your performance. I had to laugh.

Oh, they messaged me constantly, while telling me off with their ideas and comments. Rather than doing duplication of posts, they use me as their sounding board to help the brothers.

At least I can only say that you have already been able to help me with your knowledge and I hope that it will be just as good in practice. At least I have "some slightly" hope. Because as is often the case, when you see it, you believe that you are on the road to recovery.

There are many ways to reach recovery, or restoration towards the to the original conditions. It just take time.

I will do some research on West & Month.
But for now I will test what I have here. I don't know if I can put a link here, then you would have been able to see whether the product is any good.

Unfortunately, we don't encouarge to put links here that leads to profiting sites. The brand name and listed products are good enough for anyone to do a search. If you type West & Month salicylic acid serum, you'll see many drop off sites with prices. The drop off sites will also provide the shipping capacity to each international region.

It's interesting what you mentioned about the blood flow to the penis. Would a daily light manually massage also have the same effect of breaking down Iron more quickly? Or would it make things more worse, because of the pressure?

No, gentle but deep shiatsu massage type while the penis is semi or erect will actually help. Adding pressure to the skin does not cause the issue to exacerbate the current condition. Using a bit of warm liquid Vit E or virgin coconut/olive oil actually help to prevent abrasive friction burn while performing the massages. The more you can displace the accumulative iron, the faster the skin pigmentation changes.

Or does it only have to be sexual intercourse? Because blood flow to the penis for hours every day is of course not possible.

Sexual intercourse is just an exmaple. Any time you get an erection, that's blood flow. any time you get a nice flaccid stage where the penis is about 60% filled, that's a nice blood flow. As for penis being filled to 60% for hours at a time, ah, that's the world of PE using penis sleeves and wrapping. By wrapping or using the sleeves to keep the penis elongated, the body responds to the elongation process by keeping the blood flow through it constantly. My penis is wrapped, and in a loose penis sleeve, all day long before I go to bed. It benefits the body to keep the blood moving, while the penis is forced to readapt to its new permanent flaccid state.

However, biologically, the penis supposedly shrinks smaller to preserve itself from injuries, like when environment is too cold, or protect itself possible impact trauma. It's the only exit point for the wastes to leave your body in fluid form.

If the discoloration went away on its own for you and was as dark as mine, did you help it in some way to stimulate the blood flow?

Yes. During my early days of intense PE before I took a long break, my habit is to wrap it elongated, or perform light jelq to keep the blood flowing before the wrap or using the sleeves. Of course, my horny wife keep my blood constantly flowing from stimulation and sexual teasing.

and Was it still so dark looking after 8 months?

It was dark until it past a year. After that, I didn't keep my eyes on the hyperpigmentation, but I noticed the coloration returned to normal after 1.5 years later. I only check up on the hyperpigmentation every 6 months.

Why did you actually have to use the Salicylic acid if you no longer had any discoloration?

I use the salicylic acid again because I resumed PE. Very intense PE. I perform lengthening and expansion routines. Dual routines can do a number on the hyperpigmentation/discoloration. So, using salicylic acid to expedite the color restoration is something I want to pursue as secondary measures. Wife likes a light large pinky penis over the darker one. It's to match her light pinky vagina. But overall, she doesn't care. Same with me. It's to satisfy her needs.

Is there another benefit to doing something like that to the penis?

Nope. It's mainly esthetic. Just like some ladies like their nipples to be pink and areola to be lighter shade of skin tones.

Because I wouldn't use it voluntarily without a reason. The only thing I used just for skin care before this accident happened was Coconut oil, nothing else.

Not sure why men are so hyped up on having a light penis. If your skin color is dark, having a darker penis is nothing new. If you have skin as pale as a ghost and a penis that is dark as a chocolate bar, then something is wrong. If your penis has a dark color glans while the rest of the penis is light, that's something to worry about. Overall, unless you're receiving 90% blow jobs and the ladies only like to see light pink penis because you're in the entertainment industry, having a lighter penis is just something you think is better on the esthetic side over the functionality. Having a darker penis doesn't cause issues or better healthier benefit of having a lighter penis. Unless, your penis has solar charging capacity function.

 

[Cristiano1]

Oh, they messaged me constantly, while telling me off with their ideas and comments. Rather than doing duplication of posts, they use me as their sounding board to help the brothers.


There are many ways to reach recovery, or restoration towards the to the original conditions. It just take time.


Unfortunately, we don't encouarge to put links here that leads to profiting sites. The brand name and listed products are good enough for anyone to do a search. If you type West & Month salicylic acid serum, you'll see many drop off sites with prices. The drop off sites will also provide the shipping capacity to each international region.


No, gentle but deep shiatsu massage type while the penis is semi or erect will actually help. Adding pressure to the skin does not cause the issue to exacerbate the current condition. Using a bit of warm liquid Vit E or virgin coconut/olive oil actually help to prevent abrasive friction burn while performing the massages. The more you can displace the accumulative iron, the faster the skin pigmentation changes.


Sexual intercourse is just an exmaple. Any time you get an erection, that's blood flow. any time you get a nice flaccid stage where the penis is about 60% filled, that's a nice blood flow. As for penis being filled to 60% for hours at a time, ah, that's the world of PE using penis sleeves and wrapping. By wrapping or using the sleeves to keep the penis elongated, the body responds to the elongation process by keeping the blood flow through it constantly. My penis is wrapped, and in a loose penis sleeve, all day long before I go to bed. It benefits the body to keep the blood moving, while the penis is forced to readapt to its new permanent flaccid state.

However, biologically, the penis supposedly shrinks smaller to preserve itself from injuries, like when environment is too cold, or protect itself possible impact trauma. It's the only exit point for the wastes to leave your body in fluid form.


Yes. During my early days of intense PE before I took a long break, my habit is to wrap it elongated, or perform light jelq to keep the blood flowing before the wrap or using the sleeves. Of course, my horny wife keep my blood constantly flowing from stimulation and sexual teasing.


It was dark until it past a year. After that, I didn't keep my eyes on the hyperpigmentation, but I noticed the coloration returned to normal after 1.5 years later. I only check up on the hyperpigmentation every 6 months.


I use the salicylic acid again because I resumed PE. Very intense PE. I perform lengthening and expansion routines. Dual routines can do a number on the hyperpigmentation/discoloration. So, using salicylic acid to expedite the color restoration is something I want to pursue as secondary measures. Wife likes a light large pinky penis over the darker one. It's to match her light pinky vagina. But overall, she doesn't care. Same with me. It's to satisfy her needs.


Nope. It's mainly esthetic. Just like some ladies like their nipples to be pink and areola to be lighter shade of skin tones.


Not sure why men are so hyped up on having a light penis. If your skin color is dark, having a darker penis is nothing new. If you have skin as pale as a ghost and a penis that is dark as a chocolate bar, then something is wrong. If your penis has a dark color glans while the rest of the penis is light, that's something to worry about. Overall, unless you're receiving 90% blow jobs and the ladies only like to see light pink penis because you're in the entertainment industry, having a lighter penis is just something you think is better on the esthetic side over the functionality. Having a darker penis doesn't cause issues or better healthier benefit of having a lighter penis. Unless, your penis has solar charging capacity function.

So the treatment is started. It would look like this: in the evening before going to sleep I would apply the Salicylic 2%

I would leave it on overnight. It will absorb from the skin because it is already liquid. And in the morning when I wake up I would rub in coconut oil to counteract the dryness and irritation. I would then do this every day and take a break on Sunday. Would this routine be ok?

Or should I do it continuously, 7 days a week without a break?I hope that I don't get any damage to my skin.

I would also use Aloe vera gel, I find it very pleasant as it absorbs well. You mentioned that you use vitamin A cream? Do I need that too? I guess that’s the Retinol we talked about.

 

[oldandlively]

So the treatment is started. It would look like this: in the evening before going to sleep I would apply the Salicylic 2%

I would leave it on overnight. It will absorb from the skin because it is already liquid. And in the morning when I wake up I would rub in coconut oil to counteract the dryness and irritation. I would then do this every day and take a break on Sunday. Would this routine be ok?

Yes. Give the routine a try to see if it causes any irritation. If it does, give a 3 days break, then resume, but apply and leave the serum on for 30 to 60 minutes per recommendation, and wash off. Then apply the coconut oil.

Or should I do it continuously, 7 days a week without a break?I hope that I don't get any damage to my skin.

Give a 3 days on, 1 day off a try. Then go up to 4 and 5 days on and 1 day off a try. If all is good, every day.

I would also use Aloe vera gel, I find it very pleasant as it absorbs well. You mentioned that you use vitamin A cream? Do I need that too? I guess that’s the Retinol we talked about.

No. Aloe is more than enough for skin rejuvenation.

 

[Cristiano1]

Yes. Give the routine a try to see if it causes any irritation. If it does, give a 3 days break, then resume, but apply and leave the serum on for 30 to 60 minutes per recommendation, and wash off. Then apply the coconut oil.


Give a 3 days on, 1 day off a try. Then go up to 4 and 5 days on and 1 day off a try. If all is good, every day.


No. Aloe is more than enough for skin rejuvenation.

So the liquid salicylic acid, that I use for my face doesn't have to be washed off. I always leave it on until I wash my face again in the evening. Should I just leave it on my penis for 30 minutes and then wash it off? Because it absorbs anyway, I can't wash off much of it. If I just leave it overnight, would that be that not advisable?

 

[oldandlively]

So the liquid salicylic acid, that I use for my face doesn't have to be washed off. I always leave it on until I wash my face again in the evening. Should I just leave it on my penis for 30 minutes and then wash it off? Because it absorbs anyway, I can't wash off much of it. If I just leave it overnight, would that be that not advisable?

This is where you have to experiment. If it absorbed and the residue does not cause issues, no worries. If it does, wash the residue off.

I leave mine over night. For my skin type, I have no issue. Give it a try, and change as you go.

 

[Cristiano1]

Yes. Give the routine a try to see if it causes any irritation. If it does, give a 3 days break, then resume, but apply and leave the serum on for 30 to 60 minutes per recommendation, and wash off. Then apply the coconut oil.


Give a 3 days on, 1 day off a try. Then go up to 4 and 5 days on and 1 day off a try. If all is good, every day.


No. Aloe is more than enough for skin rejuvenation.

This is where you have to experiment. If it absorbed and the residue does not cause issues, no worries. If it does, wash the residue off.

I leave mine over night. For my skin type, I have no issue. Give it a try, and change as you g

OK, brother. Then I'll test it and see how my skin reacts to it. I'll do your 3 days on, 1 day off routine first. I think that's quite good to start with. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it works and everything turns out well. I'll report back on how it goes. But I probably won't be able to expect any results in 1 week, probably more after a month, or maybe longer, right?

 

[oldandlively]

OK, brother. Then I'll test it and see how my skin reacts to it. I'll do your 3 days on, 1 day off routine first. I think that's quite good to start with. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it works and everything turns out well. I'll report back on how it goes. But I probably won't be able to expect any results in 1 week, probably more after a month, or maybe longer, right?

Yep. Always give a minimum of 6 weeks for hyperpigmentation treatment.

 

[DLD]

Oh, they messaged me constantly, while telling me off with their ideas and comments. Rather than doing duplication of posts, they use me as their sounding board to help the brothers.


There are many ways to reach recovery, or restoration towards the to the original conditions. It just take time.


Unfortunately, we don't encouarge to put links here that leads to profiting sites. The brand name and listed products are good enough for anyone to do a search. If you type West & Month salicylic acid serum, you'll see many drop off sites with prices. The drop off sites will also provide the shipping capacity to each international region.


No, gentle but deep shiatsu massage type while the penis is semi or erect will actually help. Adding pressure to the skin does not cause the issue to exacerbate the current condition. Using a bit of warm liquid Vit E or virgin coconut/olive oil actually help to prevent abrasive friction burn while performing the massages. The more you can displace the accumulative iron, the faster the skin pigmentation changes.


Sexual intercourse is just an exmaple. Any time you get an erection, that's blood flow. any time you get a nice flaccid stage where the penis is about 60% filled, that's a nice blood flow. As for penis being filled to 60% for hours at a time, ah, that's the world of PE using penis sleeves and wrapping. By wrapping or using the sleeves to keep the penis elongated, the body responds to the elongation process by keeping the blood flow through it constantly. My penis is wrapped, and in a loose penis sleeve, all day long before I go to bed. It benefits the body to keep the blood moving, while the penis is forced to readapt to its new permanent flaccid state.

However, biologically, the penis supposedly shrinks smaller to preserve itself from injuries, like when environment is too cold, or protect itself possible impact trauma. It's the only exit point for the wastes to leave your body in fluid form.


Yes. During my early days of intense PE before I took a long break, my habit is to wrap it elongated, or perform light jelq to keep the blood flowing before the wrap or using the sleeves. Of course, my horny wife keep my blood constantly flowing from stimulation and sexual teasing.


It was dark until it past a year. After that, I didn't keep my eyes on the hyperpigmentation, but I noticed the coloration returned to normal after 1.5 years later. I only check up on the hyperpigmentation every 6 months.


I use the salicylic acid again because I resumed PE. Very intense PE. I perform lengthening and expansion routines. Dual routines can do a number on the hyperpigmentation/discoloration. So, using salicylic acid to expedite the color restoration is something I want to pursue as secondary measures. Wife likes a light large pinky penis over the darker one. It's to match her light pinky vagina. But overall, she doesn't care. Same with me. It's to satisfy her needs.


Nope. It's mainly esthetic. Just like some ladies like their nipples to be pink and areola to be lighter shade of skin tones.


Not sure why men are so hyped up on having a light penis. If your skin color is dark, having a darker penis is nothing new. If you have skin as pale as a ghost and a penis that is dark as a chocolate bar, then something is wrong. If your penis has a dark color glans while the rest of the penis is light, that's something to worry about. Overall, unless you're receiving 90% blow jobs and the ladies only like to see light pink penis because you're in the entertainment industry, having a lighter penis is just something you think is better on the esthetic side over the functionality. Having a darker penis doesn't cause issues or better healthier benefit of having a lighter penis. Unless, your penis has

This is where you have to experiment. If it absorbed and the residue does not cause issues, no worries. If it does, wash the residue off.

I leave mine over night. For my skin type, I have no issue. Give it a try, and change as you go.

How does it help?

 

[oldandlively]

When your penile skin color darken due to the ruptured blood cells and deposits of iron that oxidized just below the skin, it known as hyperpigmentation. Something like bruises on the face after you abuse it enough to slap sticks.

Lighten the skin is merely cosmetic to make the skin look more presentable. There is no functionality to have lighter skin, unless your penis is a solar charging device, or the girls don't like dark penises. Salicylic acid lighten the skin by bleaching the deposited materials below the skin. The glans is not a problem. The foreskin tends to be the main issue.

My wife won't really care. She just calls it a milk chocolate bar she can enjoy.

 

[Cristiano1]

Yep. Always give a minimum of 6 weeks for hyperpigmentation treatment.

Ok, then I will try to be patient and see what happens and hope for your expert advice.

 

[oldandlively]

Ok, then I will try to be patient and see what happens and hope for your expert advice.

Do check in with us. Take photos after every 2 weeks, under the same lighting conditions. This is to help you to spot changes because you can't simply detect everything with your eyes. It will also help the brothers down the road as well. Once we see changes, you or I can create the question and answer to support the brotherhood in the Questions & Answers section. This question comes up quite often.

 

[Cristiano1]

Do check in with us. Take photos after every 2 weeks, under the same lighting conditions. This is to help you to spot changes because you can't simply detect everything with your eyes. It will also help the brothers down the road as well. Once we see changes, you or I can create the question and answer to support the brotherhood in the Questions & Answers section. This question comes up quite often.

Yes, of course. I will observe it and then report back. Especially if it doesn't work, which I hope not. I trust in your experience and what you recommended to me. What surprises me a little, though, is that you are the only one who has actually responded to this topic. And the only one who has also talked about their experience with this problem.

If this is an issue that comes up often, especially among the people who train here, why doesn't anyone share their experiences of what may have helped them personally? It would have been interesting to hear other Brothers Stories and how they ended and which solution they found.

Just like Filmfreak documented it. Unfortunately I couldn't see the before and after pictures in his posts. It would have been interesting to see how strong the discoloration was and how well it went away. In the German forum, lots of people say that they still had discoloration after 1 year and that it hadn't gone away. But no one there made the suggestion about salicylic acid. They are afraid that it could do harm.

 

[oldandlively]

The problem is, PE journeyists tend not to share their life stories in the open forums, rather, just inquires to get the solutions started. I can say that 99.9% of the brothers doing PE suffered discoloration. It got brought up, but no one like to to find a solution while using themselves as guinea pigs for the experiments. Those who ventures out and found the solutions simply disappeared into the void and never came back to report. Others like to hold onto the knowledge and only provide the solutions through paid services. Here, we do things differently.

 

[oldandlively]

OK, brother. Then I'll test it and see how my skin reacts to it. I'll do your 3 days on, 1 day off routine first. I think that's quite good to start with. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it works and everything turns out well. I'll report back on how it goes. But I probably won't be able to expect any results in 1 week, probably more after a month, or maybe longer, right?

By the way, after a few weeks, if you don't see any kind of lightening effects, my wife said that her darker skin friends use Dear Kitty Anal & Vaginal Lightening Cream for their anal, breasts cirlces, and vaginal lips. Changes can be seen within 3 weeks.

 

[Cristiano1]

The problem is, PE journeyists tend not to share their life stories in the open forums, rather, just inquires to get the solutions started. I can say that 99.9% of the brothers doing PE suffered discoloration. It got brought up, but no one like to to find a solution while using themselves as guinea pigs for the experiments. Those who ventures out and found the solutions simply disappeared into the void and never came back to report. Others like to hold onto the knowledge and only provide the solutions through paid services. Here, we do things differently.

By the way, after a few weeks, if you don't see any kind of lightening effects, my wife said that her darker skin friends use Dear Kitty Anal & Vaginal Lightening Cream for their anal, breasts cirlces, and vaginal lips. Changes can be seen within 3 weeks.

That's why I appreciate that you are sharing your experience, especially in this case. Because I really want to find a solution that helps. The only person who documented it was Filmfreak, but I somehow couldn't access all of his posts. I think retinal was mentioned in them too. The bleaching cream you mentioned is unfortunately not available here in Germany. There are bleaching creams with different names, but when I read through the reviews they don't seem to work as well. And I don't want to pay for something that doesn't help, because these bleaching creams aren't exactly cheap.

That's why I prefer advice like here directly from people who have been through it themselves and have used something that helps. You also said that retinol is less effective against discoloration than salicylic acid, right? I can understand that a lot of people don't want to be the object of an experiment, but in this case in particular, if other people have used it and it helped, you can't go wrong.

Do you think that it's possible that you won't see any change with the salicylic acid? What I forgot to ask is, does this treatment make the skin on the shaft thinner? When I went to the dermatologist with that problem, he recommended a serum with "Niacinamide"? Do you have any experience with that? It's also in many bleaching creams. Would that be more effective than the salicylic acid?

 

[oldandlively]

You also said that retinol is less effective against discoloration than salicylic acid, right?

Correct. Retinol is merely a skin restoration rather than skin lightening.

Do you think that it's possible that you won't see any change with the salicylic acid?

Yes, I can also see salicylic acid do not work on some. This is why the market is flooded with various compounds that work for the groups that salicylic acid doesn't work.

What I forgot to ask is, does this treatment make the skin on the shaft thinner?

No, it doesn't. We shed layers of skin every few days. New cells are constantly get regenerated. Each day, new layer of cells takes over the old and dead ones. Your penis shed at least once ever 3 days. Ever see your glans's skin shed? It's practically every 10 hours.

When I went to the dermatologist with that problem, he recommended a serum with "Niacinamide"? Do you have any experience with that?

That is part of the anal, vaginal, arm pits, and dark regions females like to lightened. My wife use it on her bikini lines when the sun causes odd hyperpigmentation because she has light skin. Shaving too much for her arm pits also cause darkened skin. She uses niacinamide mixtures as well for summer days when she overly exposed to the sun from outdoor activities in her skimpy clothing. Looks like I'll be grabbing a few more tubes of the niacinamide compounds at the local beauty stores later this week as we are venturing to intense sun exposures later. She likes to show off her glossy pink parts. SMH. Yeah, I'm in charge of determining chemical products since my knowledge of them is greater than my wife.

It's also in many bleaching creams. Would that be more effective than the salicylic acid?

Yes, there are many bleaching agents. I can't say which will work best on you. However, do search for hyperpigmentation lightening products and their reviews for Europe regions. I know Portuguese, Italy and France tend to use these hyperpigmentation creams quite a bit. Ladies I know are using different creams to get their lady parts lightened, but they tried various cream that beat suits their needs. The formulation ranges from person to person. That's why there are so many.

 

[Cristiano1]

That is part of the anal, vaginal, arm pits, and dark regions females like to lightened. My wife use it on her bikini lines when the sun causes odd hyperpigmentation because she has light skin. Shaving too much for her arm pits also cause darkened skin. She uses niacinamide mixtures as well for summer days when she overly exposed to the sun from outdoor activities in her skimpy clothing. Looks like I'll be grabbing a few more tubes of the niacinamide compounds at the local beauty stores later this week as we are venturing to intense sun exposures later. She likes to show off her glossy pink parts. SMH. Yeah, I'm in charge of determining chemical products since my knowledge of them is greater than my wife.

Would you say that Niacinamide might be better for my case as a first attempt? Or should I start with the Salicylic Acid? Maybe it works better?

Yes, I can also see salicylic acid do not work on some. This is why the market is flooded with various compounds that work for the groups that salicylic acid doesn't work.

But in your case it worked well, as you said, maybe I'll be lucky and it will work too.

 

[DLD]

Your best bet is the MOSRED

 

[oldandlively]

Would you say that Niacinamide might be better for my case as a first attempt? Or should I start with the Salicylic Acid? Maybe it works better?

Try the one to see if it works. It doesn't matter which one. It's a toss of a coin since each person's skin reacts differently. While using salicylic acid, have the other one on order just in case. 6 weeks go by very fast.

But in your case it worked well, as you said, maybe I'll be lucky and it will work too.

Since you already started, stay with it. It may work just as well for you. If you don't see anything within 6 weeks, switch. Normally, I go longer, but why waste time when the other might work better.

 

[Cristiano1]

I read this post of yours where you mentioned L-Critrulline malate. You can also order that here in Germany. Would it possibly help with the discoloration through the blood flow effect? Even if you don't practice PE? Or does it have no effect if you don't actually have an erection in the penis?

Does Citrulline actually work better than L-Arginine when it comes to erections and pump?

 

[oldandlively]

I read this post of yours where you mentioned L-Critrulline malate. You can also order that here in Germany. Would it possibly help with the discoloration through the blood flow effect?

No. Unfortunately, it's to stimulate blood flow and cellular rebuilding. You can think of it as a forced method to migrate the iron and broken components out of the penis faster. Do, it indirectly plays the role of restoring the penis.

Even if you don't practice PE?

Yep. Time heals and restoring all things. Or not. Sometimes, you just have to help it along with pharma grade materials.

Or does it have no effect if you don't actually have an erection in the penis?

Yes, you need to get some form of erection, be flaccid, 3/4 erected, or just plain old hard as wood erection. Blood needs to enter the penis.

Does Citrulline actually work better than L-Arginine when it comes to erections and pump?

It's more effective than l-arginine during conversion process. L-citrulline is a faster or one step closer to converting to bioavailable arginine for the body to use. Think of it as gasoline ready to be converted to rocket fuel at certain grades where as l-arginine is like crude oil.

 

[DLD]

You can use the MOSRED to deal with your issues. Just need to find your happy place. The penis will become darker without proactive ways to lighten.

 

[Hymen Lover]

Mine is dark too from the pumping. Does not bother me or any girl I stick it into. One girl told me that I am a white man with a BBC

 

[DLD]

Mine is dark too from the pumping. Does not bother me or any girl I stick it into. One girl told me that I am a white man with a BBC

 

[Cristiano1]

Mine is dark too from the pumping. Does not bother me or any girl I stick it into. One girl told me that I am a white man with a BBC

It depends on the case. So if the penis was in generally a bit darker everywhere, it wouldn't bother me. But as in my case, in certain spots and a longer line on the shaft, that bothers me personally

 

[Cristiano1]

No. Unfortunately, it's to stimulate blood flow and cellular rebuilding. You can think of it as a forced method to migrate the iron and broken components out of the penis faster. Do, it indirectly plays the role of restoring the penis.


Yep. Time heals and restoring all things. Or not. Sometimes, you just have to help it along with pharma grade materials.


Yes, you need to get some form of erection, be flaccid, 3/4 erected, or just plain old hard as wood erection. Blood needs to enter the penis.


It's more effective than l-arginine during conversion process. L-citrulline is a faster or one step closer to converting to bioavailable arginine for the body to use. Think of it as gasoline ready to be converted to rocket fuel at certain grades where as l-arginine is like crude oil.

Can you take it as a dietary supplement every day? Even without training? I think anything that promotes blood circulation is generally not bad for taking for the overall gealth . Do you take citrulline? If so, how often?