Progress thread Come on gains

[DLD]

Thank you and DLD and other brothers for feedback!

The extender I have allows for bundles, but actually after you and DLD mentioned it, I was able to use my basic extender
With my new extender its a bit easier and I think I need to do more bundle time in it.

You are so welcome, my brother.I wish nothing but the best for you in the future. God bless you!

 

[oldandlively]

Are you saying based on the research that it is higher than the ai model

Correct. AI modeling has only been in the game for the past year or so. AI engines are awesome at what they can do, but the modeling lacks the publication data for them to process with. The best thing to do is to pull all the publications together, including compiled data, into one single storage center, and have the AI engines perform the investigation. Otherwise, most data got scattered across the interweb, and sit behind blocked walls.

This is why DLD decided for MoS to open up the data portal so our data can be provided to the next generation, especially AI engines.

So does this mean the strain has to be higher than the ai model

The strain seems to be higher, but in reality, the AI modelings have hallucinations without proper prompting to differentiate between dynamic modeling using specific static traction progression vs pure static traction tensions. This is why tables and well written logs are essential for the AI engines to read the info properly.

I just want to be on the correct path as far as how much strain I'm using with the extender

Your path that you used originally is perfectly fine. However, make sure not to take the literal values at face value and use them. 45 minutes at 6 to 9lbs is pure crazy. 15 minutes, from (5mins at 6lbs, 5 mins at 9lbs, 5 mins at 7lbs) 6lbs to 9lbs should be spread out, and can be repeated until you hit the 45 minutes mark. Do not remain static at one single traction load for the entire 45 minutes.

What should be the time then on the 9lbs to 11lbs I am using

If your upper weight limit is 11lbs, spread it out. 10 minutes at 9lbs, 10 minutes at 11lbs, 5 minutes at 9lbs, and then black way down to 15 minutes 5lbs, and 15 minutes at 4lbs, and stay as long as you can at 2.5lbs max. You do not need to stay at 11lbs or 9lbs for more than 10 minutes, at top 15 minutes. That's starting to tear your tissues apart and cause your body to turtle for self protection.

Should I limit this to only
5 to 10 min increments?

Always. When you strap too tightly, blood need to flow! 5 minutes rule, at top at 10 minutes, to prevent blood clotting. Anyone else that go past the 10 minutes mark, or encouraged to go past that limit, simply be aware of the danger.

How about cummulative time with 9 to 11lbs per session?

Yes, you can. Range the weight loads ever 5 minutes to 10 minutes.

I just want to make sure not to get hurt
I've got good growth so far I think with my routine
and don't want to get overzelous

And this is the most critical point.

The ice
I'm going to keep it to a minimum of maybe 5 minutes
Unless you think it should be different

Nope. The cooling factor is a great way to add once in the entire routine. You can use cool water, but ice should only be used once. More than once, the shock might trigger something else. I can go into a discussion about it, but it will cause quite a bit of confusion on your end.

 

[JustGrow]

Correct. AI modeling has only been in the game for the past year or so. AI engines are awesome at what they can do, but the modeling lacks the publication data for them to process with. The best thing to do is to pull all the publications together, including compiled data, into one single storage center, and have the AI engines perform the investigation. Otherwise, most data got scattered across the interweb, and sit behind blocked walls.

This is why DLD decided for MoS to open up the data portal so our data can be provided to the next generation, especially AI engines.



The strain seems to be higher, but in reality, the AI modelings have hallucinations without proper prompting to differentiate between dynamic modeling using specific static traction progression vs pure static traction tensions. This is why tables and well written logs are essential for the AI engines to read the info properly.



Your path that you used originally is perfectly fine. However, make sure not to take the literal values at face value and use them. 45 minutes at 6 to 9lbs is pure crazy. 15 minutes, from (5mins at 6lbs, 5 mins at 9lbs, 5 mins at 7lbs) 6lbs to 9lbs should be spread out, and can be repeated until you hit the 45 minutes mark. Do not remain static at one single traction load for the entire 45 minutes.



If your upper weight limit is 11lbs, spread it out. 10 minutes at 9lbs, 10 minutes at 11lbs, 5 minutes at 9lbs, and then black way down to 15 minutes 5lbs, and 15 minutes at 4lbs, and stay as long as you can at 2.5lbs max. You do not need to stay at 11lbs or 9lbs for more than 10 minutes, at top 15 minutes. That's starting to tear your tissues apart and cause your body to turtle for self protection.



Always. When you strap too tightly, blood need to flow! 5 minutes rule, at top at 10 minutes, to prevent blood clotting. Anyone else that go past the 10 minutes mark, or encouraged to go past that limit, simply be aware of the danger.



Yes, you can. Range the weight loads ever 5 minutes to 10 minutes.



And this is the most critical point.





Nope. The cooling factor is a great way to add once in the entire routine. You can use cool water, but ice should only be used once. More than once, the shock might trigger something else. I can go into a discussion about it, but it will cause quite a bit of confusion on your end.

Thank you, man wealth of knowledge!
I appreciate it!

Still want to keep it simple and effective

I have a vacuum type extender

When you say restore blood flow
Are you saying just to unstrap from the extender and shake to restore blood flow after 5 to 10 minutes
Or
Do i need to remove the cap from vacuum and then reapply?

Also, is the 6 to 9 lbs too much in your opinion or should I still keep using it but minimal like you mentioned at 5 min increments up to about 15 min then lower weight 5 lbs or less for the remaining 30 to 45 minutes

thank you for mentioning the time in extender as I think I was leaving it on too long maybe

 

[oldandlively]

I have a vacuum type extender

When you say restore blood flow
Are you saying just to unstrap from the extender and shake to restore blood flow after 5 to 10 minutes
Or
Do i need to remove the cap from vacuum and then reapply?

No need to remove the cap if you're staying around 2.5lbs to 3lbs. But the moment you're heading up to 5lbs and beyond, yes, my suggestion is to, at the very least, remove the weight from the vacuum cup to allow blood to flow from the glans to the rest of the penis just for a minute or so, and resume. During the heavy traction load, the pressure in the vacuum cup will increase. The vacuum pressure causes the blood to remain stagnant in the glans, while the rest of the penis continues to flow normally. Your glans is suffering during the stagnant period.

If you're not using the vacuum cup, you can leave it on a lot longer. The only thing is the comfort issues where the strap(s) can dig into your skin, or the pinching of the nerve and blood vessels during higher traction loads. But if there's no issues with the blood flow with the strap type, go as long as you want. Just be aware of the vacuum type.

 

[JustGrow]

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No need to remove the cap if you're staying around 2.5lbs to 3lbs. But the moment you're heading up to 5lbs and beyond, yes, my suggestion is to, at the very least, remove the weight from the vacuum cup to allow blood to flow from the glans to the rest of the penis just for a minute or so, and resume. During the heavy traction load, the pressure in the vacuum cup will increase. The vacuum pressure causes the blood to remain stagnant in the glans, while the rest of the penis continues to flow normally. Your glans is suffering during the stagnant period.

If you're not using the vacuum cup, you can leave it on a lot longer. The only thing is the comfort issues where the strap(s) can dig into your skin, or the pinching of the nerve and blood vessels during higher traction loads. But if there's no issues with the blood flow with the strap type, go as long as you want. Just be aware of the vacuum type.

Got it

I will remove every 5 to 10 minutes when on high weight past 3 to 4 lbs

I was probably doing it every 5 to 10 minutes when transitioning to different weight on the extender and shaking for about 30 seconds but I will do it a bit longer for 1 to 2 minutes

I will leave the cap on but remove vacuum temporarily then add vacum back and reapply extender

I would see some veins or something when removing the vacuum cup behind the glans but i just thought it was lymphatic fluid

Thank you guys for looking out!

You think I should go down to
5 to 7 lbs instead
of the 9lbs mark

 

[DLD]

G


Got it

I will remove every 5 to 10 minutes when on high weight past 3 to 4 lbs

I was probably doing it every 5 to 10 minutes when transitioning to different weight on the extender and shaking for about 30 seconds but I will do it a bit longer for 1 to 2 minutes

I will leave the cap on but remove vacuum temporarily then add vacum back and reapply extender

I would see some veins or something when removing the vacuum cup behind the glans but i just thought it was lymphatic fluid

Thank you guys for looking out!

You think I should go down to
5 to 7 lbs instead
of the 9lbs mark

Isn't it quite impressive that you can get? Knowing one of our brothers will always be here to help youo much feedback and help just by posting. Knowing one of our brothers will always be here to help you

 

[JustGrow]

Isn't it quite impressive that you can get? Knowing one of our brothers will always be here to help youo much feedback and help just by posting. Knowing one of our brothers will always be here to help you

Yes truly amazing the wealth of knowledge you guys share

God bless you brother!

 

[DLD]

Yes truly amazing the wealth of knowledge you guys share

God bless you brother!

Jesus bless you my brother

 

[JustGrow]

Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 34 hrs 30 min
ADS 3 hr 00 min

Session 45 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.3cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 10 min x 30 sec DLD rolls
***PostWorkout BPFLS
18.5cm

with heat
5 min ext @7 lbs
5 min ext @9 lbs
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle R
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle R
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle R

Room Temp
10 min ext @5 lbs

After extender BPFLS
***18.5cm

 

[JustGrow]

Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 35 hrs 30 min
ADS 3 hr 00 min

Session 46 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.4cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 10 min x 30 sec DLD rolls
***PostWorkout BPFLS
18.5cm

Seems my preworkout is catching up to my post workout for gains

with heat
5 min ext @7 lbs
5 min ext @9 lbs
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle R
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle R

Room Temp
35 min ext @4 lbs

10 min old ext @3 lbs

After extender BPFLS
***18.5cm

 

[JustGrow]

Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 36 hrs 10 min
ADS 3 hr 00 min

Session 47 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.3cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 10 min x 30 sec DLD rolls
***PostWorkout BPFLS
18.5cm

with heat
10 min ext @7 lbs
5 min ext @9 lbs
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle R
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle R

Room Temp
20 min ext @4 lbs

After extender BPFLS
***18.7cm

 

[DLD]

Very good routine. I'm very proud of you! keep it up day by day, and it will truly bring you incredible growth. I'm watching over you.

 

[JustGrow]

Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 37 hrs 5 min
ADS 3 hr 00 min

Session 48 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.2cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 10 min x 30 sec DLD rolls
***PostWorkout BPFLS
18.4cm

with heat
5 min ext @7 lbs
5 min ext @9 lbs
5 min ext @4 lbs
5 min ext @4 lbs
5 min ext @4 lbs

Room Temp
5 min ext @5 lbs
10 min ext @3 lbs
15 min ext @4 lbs

After extender BPFLS
***18.4cm

@oldandlively
Questioning the recent smaller measurement
After workout

 

[oldandlively]

After extender BPFLS
***18.4cm

@oldandlively
Questioning the recent smaller measurement
After workout

I see the pattern to you retraction issue of pre vs post relaxation.

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.2cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 10 min x 30 sec DLD rolls
***PostWorkout BPFLS
18.4cm

Probably too much tension right here with cool heat. Should be at body core temp.

with heat
5 min ext @7 lbs
5 min ext @9 lbs
5 min ext @4 lbs
5 min ext @4 lbs
5 min ext @4 lbs

How much heat? Any estimation?

Room Temp
5 min ext @5 lbs
10 min ext @3 lbs
15 min ext @4 lbs

When you're doing low traction tension using gravity, apply heat to allow the body to "reset" at low weights as the body is willing to relax without a tissue fatigue reset. Mean, as the body relaxes, it desires heat, most of the times higher the body's core temp. When the tissues is under pressure or reaching the normal fatigue level, possibly from the LM3 workout without knowing, the tissues want to have more heat as the traction load reduces to relax.

 

[DLD]

Unbelievably, good post.You have mastered something.I would love to master. Keep up the awesome work and keep on growing

 

[JustGrow]

I see the pattern to you retraction issue of pre vs post relaxation.




Probably too much tension right here with cool heat. Should be at body core temp.



How much heat? Any estimation?



When you're doing low traction tension using gravity, apply heat to allow the body to "reset" at low weights as the body is willing to relax without a tissue fatigue reset. Mean, as the body relaxes, it desires heat, most of the times higher the body's core temp. When the tissues is under pressure or reaching the normal fatigue level, possibly from the LM3 workout without knowing, the tissues want to have more heat as the traction load reduces to relax.

Thanks @oldandlively

-So are you saying at the higher tension I should do it at room temp?

-And at the lower tensions add more heat?

The heat is from a heating pad at high temp, but not sure what that is

 

[oldandlively]

-So are you saying at the higher tension I should do it at room temp?

No. tissues work better where the tissues are at body core temp. But before you stop when you're using the lighter traction loads, use more heat application to relax the tissues. You can even use more heat application the PE exercises to further relax the tissues and promote blood flow.

-And at the lower tensions add more heat?

All tensions. You can apply heat for one exercise, leave at room temperature for one exercise, and so on. But at the very end, the last few exercise with lighter tension loads should have constant heat application. Something to play with to keep your tissues constantly relaxed for more effective stretching.

The heat is from a heating pad at high temp, but not sure what that is

Try to measure the surface of the heating pad at high temp using IR heat measurement. You always want to know.

 

[JustGrow]

girth workout today
EQ was higher and was going to be harder to get length exercises

Although I could have probably gone Erect Stretches, thought about this after the fact

Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Session 49 of ?

Found a small space heater that i was abke to set to about 85 or so and turned it off an on to keep me warmer during the workout

10 min jelq flaccid
3 min camp
5 min jelq flaccid
3 min clamp

2 min shakes to restore blood flow

10 min pump 2in cylinder
5hg w/ pull every 2 sec or so for last 2 min

5 min jelq/ ULIs

5 min pump 2in cylinder
5hg w/ pull every 2 sec or so for last 2 min

5 min jelq/ ULIs

wrap total 20 min

1 hr later
10 min falccid jelq

@DLD and @oldandlively
Are flaccid jelqs for length?

I notice that after flaccid jelqs my flaccid and erect length appear longer
I guess I have to put a ruler to it for measurements, but just wanted to check

 

[oldandlively]

@DLD and @oldandlively
Are flaccid jelqs for length?

No, more of blood circulation unless you pull hard downward, and promote girth.

 

[DLD]

girth workout today
EQ was higher and was going to be harder to get length exercises

Although I could have probably gone Erect Stretches, thought about this after the fact

Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Session 49 of ?

Found a small space heater that i was abke to set to about 85 or so and turned it off an on to keep me warmer during the workout

10 min jelq flaccid
3 min camp
5 min jelq flaccid
3 min clamp

2 min shakes to restore blood flow

10 min pump 2in cylinder
5hg w/ pull every 2 sec or so for last 2 min

5 min jelq/ ULIs

5 min pump 2in cylinder
5hg w/ pull every 2 sec or so for last 2 min

5 min jelq/ ULIs

wrap total 20 min

1 hr later
10 min falccid jelq

@DLD and @oldandlively
Are flaccid jelqs for length?

I notice that after flaccid jelqs my flaccid and erect length appear longer
I guess I have to put a ruler to it for measurements, but just wanted to che

My penis always got a little bit longer after doing flaccid Jelks, but I agree with old and lively that you should have as much blood in your penis when doing girth work. Thanks for reporting this and I look forward to your results