Argyle's Awesome Additions (A^3)

[oldandlively]

@oldandlively @huge-girth @DLD Please see my latest update as of Feb. 28, 2025 and let me know what you think

Let's break things down during the brief period of Length Master adjustment, or learning curve, and lack of BPEL gain, but noticeably the new flaccid state. At this point in time, your brain and penile tissues are now reprogrammed with the new normal from the gains. Since @huge-girth is your coach, I'll send you off with this advice so he can confirm or deny with your new method of approach.

Nov. 28, 2024:
First BTC bundle stretch session with LM3.
I will make a progress update on or shortly after Feb. 28, 2025.

• This is where the learning curve cause a big of a delay on the gains. But that's perfectly fine.

Feb. 28, 2025:
BPEL: 6.00 inches --> 0.00 inch increase
BPSFL: 6.00 inches --> 0.37 inch increase

• Because of the new stress loads done using the LM3, your tissues adapted the new normalcy. Now, it's time to attack the tissues.

Since you've taken time to adjust your tissues using a higher mechanical assist traction force, do be mindful not to over stress your tissues to the point of exhaustion. What I mean is, stick with one session a day first, but a complete session. Until you know you can tackle more sessions, be mindful of how much fatigue your penis is undergoing.

Warmup:
2:30 min wrap w/ hot washcloth and kegel holds.

• Kegel hold should be reverse kegel to preload the blood volume for 30 seconds, with two quick burst of short 1-second kegel and resume the cycle for the 2:30 second duration. Why this method? Since your tissues are adopting the new normalcy, the kegel reflex will be automatic to keep sending blood to your penis to keep it in its new elongated flaccid state. What you want to do more is to prime the blood more than pumping the blood. Priming the blood is to pool it at the pelvic, and pumping is that short burst of kegel, or two quick burst. Your body will use this primed blood automatically throughout the day. I do reverse kegel most of the day over kegeling. This is something for you to try to see a new beneficial side to reverse kegeling more than kegeling. Keep a good observation log.

2 L bundled, DLD Blaster downward pull: 30 seconds moderate pull, follows by 60 seconds hard pull as you raise up the intensity. Move slowly from a moderate to a hard pull should be a hard feel good stretch pull above the moderate pull, below any kind of pain. It's practically that super stretch early in the morning from sleeping in a fetal position all night. After 60 seconds of hard, slowly release back to 30 seconds moderate pull.

2 R bundle, DLD Blaster downward pull: Same as the L bundled stretch above.

A straight down pull at moderate tension with no bundle. Just straight down for 60 seconds. This is to reset the tissues back to longitudinal vector before the LM3 stretches.

Main Session:
1.5 L bundle, L pull BTC 5-minutes of pure dynamic stretch, as you find the optimal angles while going towards the back: 1 min light (adding to a total of 6 minutes), 5 minutes of alternating between moderate and hard. You can base it on a 30-second sequence, or you can alternate every 10-second sequence. Your call.

1.5 R bundle, R pull BTC 5-minutes of pure dynamic stretch, as you find the optimal angles while going towards the back. Same as above.

Again, same set as above, or as many sets as you want.

Add a final cooldown set, always from here on out:

• 30 seconds of light traction downward stretch. Downwards means straight down to the floor. Follows up with 1-minute moderate traction stretch, then up with 2-minute of hard, then back down to 90-second of light.
• Wrap/sleeve up the new stressed flaccid length, which is another 1in or so. The penis will fight back hard to return back to its previous new flaccid state. Don't let it.

Why are you adding a final set of straight down? It's to line up the longitudinal tissues to keep the tissues from warping in its new flaccid state. You're continuing to tell the brain to keep the tissues relaxed, straight down, and as long as possible. The last cooldown set also reprime the tunica, blood vessels, and nerves to be more elastic from the various stress loads to prevent themselves from harm. SIM proved this method with me.

 

[Argyle]

Let's break things down during the brief period of Length Master adjustment, or learning curve, and lack of BPEL gain, but noticeably the new flaccid state. At this point in time, your brain and penile tissues are now reprogrammed with the new normal from the gains. Since @huge-girth is your coach, I'll send you off with this advice so he can confirm or deny with your new method of approach.

Nov. 28, 2024:
First BTC bundle stretch session with LM3.
I will make a progress update on or shortly after Feb. 28, 2025.

• This is where the learning curve cause a big of a delay on the gains. But that's perfectly fine.

Feb. 28, 2025:
BPEL: 6.00 inches --> 0.00 inch increase
BPSFL: 6.00 inches --> 0.37 inch increase

• Because of the new stress loads done using the LM3, your tissues adapted the new normalcy. Now, it's time to attack the tissues.

Since you've taken time to adjust your tissues using a higher mechanical assist traction force, do be mindful not to over stress your tissues to the point of exhaustion. What I mean is, stick with one session a day first, but a complete session. Until you know you can tackle more sessions, be mindful of how much fatigue your penis is undergoing.

Warmup:
2:30 min wrap w/ hot washcloth and kegel holds.

• Kegel hold should be reverse kegel to preload the blood volume for 30 seconds, with two quick burst of short 1-second kegel and resume the cycle for the 2:30 second duration. Why this method? Since your tissues are adopting the new normalcy, the kegel reflex will be automatic to keep sending blood to your penis to keep it in its new elongated flaccid state. What you want to do more is to prime the blood more than pumping the blood. Priming the blood is to pool it at the pelvic, and pumping is that short burst of kegel, or two quick burst. Your body will use this primed blood automatically throughout the day. I do reverse kegel most of the day over kegeling. This is something for you to try to see a new beneficial side to reverse kegeling more than kegeling. Keep a good observation log.

2 L bundled, DLD Blaster downward pull: 30 seconds moderate pull, follows by 60 seconds hard pull as you raise up the intensity. Move slowly from a moderate to a hard pull should be a hard feel good stretch pull above the moderate pull, below any kind of pain. It's practically that super stretch early in the morning from sleeping in a fetal position all night. After 60 seconds of hard, slowly release back to 30 seconds moderate pull.

2 R bundle, DLD Blaster downward pull: Same as the L bundled stretch above.

A straight down pull at moderate tension with no bundle. Just straight down for 60 seconds. This is to reset the tissues back to longitudinal vector before the LM3 stretches.

Main Session:
1.5 L bundle, L pull BTC 5-minutes of pure dynamic stretch, as you find the optimal angles while going towards the back: 1 min light (adding to a total of 6 minutes), 5 minutes of alternating between moderate and hard. You can base it on a 30-second sequence, or you can alternate every 10-second sequence. Your call.

1.5 R bundle, R pull BTC 5-minutes of pure dynamic stretch, as you find the optimal angles while going towards the back. Same as above.

Again, same set as above, or as many sets as you want.

Add a final cooldown set, always from here on out:

• 30 seconds of light traction downward stretch. Downwards means straight down to the floor. Follows up with 1-minute moderate traction stretch, then up with 2-minute of hard, then back down to 90-second of light.
• Wrap/sleeve up the new stressed flaccid length, which is another 1in or so. The penis will fight back hard to return back to its previous new flaccid state. Don't let it.

Why are you adding a final set of straight down? It's to line up the longitudinal tissues to keep the tissues from warping in its new flaccid state. You're continuing to tell the brain to keep the tissues relaxed, straight down, and as long as possible. The last cooldown set also reprime the tunica, blood vessels, and nerves to be more elastic from the various stress loads to prevent themselves from harm. SIM proved this method with me.

So then should I do this (above ^^^) instead of what you posted earlier (I pasted it below vvv)

At this point in time, with your Length Master, if your routines have been consistent to some degree, let's modify the routines in assuming your routines have conditioned your penis and allow it times to adopt. We're trusting you on this brother. If you haven't been consistent, it's like throwing holy water on the dark side penis.

Warm-up procedure, where you can select any other routines amont the SRT list:

• Manual warm up with your hands, where you perform straight down pull at moderate traction tension, and hold for 30 seconds. This tension should feel where your penis has a dull sensation of being stretched. No pain whatsoever during the warm up, but enough to say, man, that's a heck of a pull. Ease up just a bit for 10 seconds, and again for 20 seconds. Keep going at it for a total of 2 minutes. You're stressing the ligaments and connected muscle tissues.
• Perform a clockwise crank for 30 seconds, and then counter clockwise for 30 seconds. Keep the reps for 2 minutes. You are stressing the tissues at all angles
• Pull hard up towards your belly button for 30 seconds, then to the right, left, then your knee, each direction for 30 seconds. Remember, you're sitting. This stretches the base muscles and tunica.

Keep your tissues warm. This means a constant heat source. As long as your crotch doesn't feel like it's burning, you're good. Keep a surface IR thermometer scanner near by if you have one. You might want to invest in one if you don't have one. It's only $15.

Now for the fun using the Length Master:

• Left rotation of the penis to 1.5x bundled, pull hard straight down to the ground for 2.5 minutes. During this time, keep the tension dynamic. First 30 seconds, pull until you feel the dull achy pain, not sharp pain, like when you pull with your hands. Ease up a bit for 10 seconds, and repeat for 20 seconds. Cycle it through for 2.5 minutes.
• Pause the timmer, and do the same for the right rotation at 1.5x bundled. Same procedure as above.
• After 5 minutes, your penis will feel some fatigue. Release the plates, massage your penis. Perform some SSJ just to get the blood flowing.

• Sit on a chair, lean your chest toward the back rest of the chair, sticking your butt slightly out.
• Left rotation of the penis to 1.5x bundled, pull hard straight down and toward the back of your butt cheeks (BTC) for 3 minutes. During this time, keep the tension dynamic. First 30 seconds, pull until you feel the dull achy pain, not sharp pain, like when you pull with your hands. Ease up a bit for 10 seconds, and repeat for 20 seconds. Cycle it through for 3 minutes. Your pain threshold should already be higher at this point. Your pull should be slightly harder than the first set.
• Pause the timmer, and do the same for the right rotation at 1.5x bundled. Same procedure as above.
• After 6 minutes, your penis will feel more fatigued. Release the plates, massage your penis. Perform some SSJ just to get the blood flowing.

At this point, your penis should feel slightly numb, and achy. The key is achy. This is fatigue.

• Left rotation of the penis to 1.5x bundled, pull hard straight down to the ground for 3 minutes. During this time, keep the tension dynamic. First 30 seconds, pull until you feel the additional dull achy pain, not sharp pain, like when you pull with your hands. Ease up a bit for 10 seconds, and repeat for 20 seconds. Cycle it through for 3 minutes.
• Pause the timmer, and do the same for the right rotation at 1.5x bundled. Same procedure as above.
• After 6 minutes, your penis will feel moderate fatigue. Release the plates, massage your penis. Perform some SSJ just to get the blood flowing.

You probably have tears in your eyes at this point. Your glans should have a slight color change the moment you release the plates. That's normal.

• Sit on a chair again, lean your chest toward the back rest of the chair, sticking your butt slightly out.
• Left rotation of the penis to 1.5x bundled, pull hard straight down and toward the back of your butt cheeks (BTC) for 5 minutes. During this time, keep the tension dynamic. First 30 seconds, pull until you feel the dull achy pain, not sharp pain, like when you pull with your hands. Ease up a bit for 10 seconds, and repeat for 20 seconds. Cycle it through for 5 minutes. Your pain threshold should already be higher at this point. Your pull should be slightly harder than the first set.
• Pause the timmer, and do the same for the right rotation at 1.5x bundled. Same procedure as above.
• After 10 minutes, your penis will feel major fatigue. Release the plates, massage your penis. Perform some SSJ just to get the blood flowing.

If you still don't feel the major fatigue at this point, go for another 10 minutes.

If you feel heavy fatigueness at this point, cool down by doing manual pull of your penis straight down only with your hands for the next 3 minutes.

Perform massages with warm oil if you like for the next few minutes, and put on the sleeves or wrap it. Keep the tissues nice and warm at all time, with your penis elongated as long as you can.

Keep this routine up for the next 2 weeks and report back.

 

[oldandlively]

So then should I do this (above ^^^) instead of what you posted earlier (I pasted it below vvv)

Yes. The earlier was for the Length Master intro. Since you do have experience with it through the transition period, it's time to get a bit more into the program. It's a strange transitional period since you have PE experiences under your belt. We can't keep you under newbie routines all the time without progressively moving forward with growth routines.

 

[DLD]

Yes. The earlier was for the Length Master intro. Since you do have experience with it through the transition period, it's time to get a bit more into the program. It's a strange transitional period since you have PE experiences under your belt. We can't keep you under newbie routines all the time without progressively moving forward with growth routines.

The Newbie routine is for beginners and should only be used a few weeks before jumping into a new routine. My advice is to go full steam into SRT. This routine is a total routine never needing to be changed. If gains slow then simply increase intensity or double up the routine. There is so much flexibility in SRT that anyone can do it.

 

[Argyle]

Yes. The earlier was for the Length Master intro. Since you do have experience with it through the transition period, it's time to get a bit more into the program. It's a strange transitional period since you have PE experiences under your belt. We can't keep you under newbie routines all the time without progressively moving forward with growth routines.

Is this different enough from/more intense than what I was doing before? It seems like the only thing that really changes is a small portion of the warmup and then the added cooldown, with the main set being basically the same thing

 

[Argyle]

The Newbie routine is for beginners and should only be used a few weeks before jumping into a new routine. My advice is to go full steam into SRT. This routine is a total routine never needing to be changed. If gains slow then simply increase intensity or double up the routine. There is so much flexibility in SRT that anyone can do it.

I have to read up much more about SRT

 

[oldandlively]

Is this different enough from/more intense than what I was doing before? It seems like the only thing that really changes is a small portion of the warmup and then the added cooldown, with the main set being basically the same thing

Yes, it's adding a level higher in intensity without destroying your recovery efforts. It's not about jumping straight into moderate to high intensity, but easing up into moderate, with a touch of high intensity, from light intensity. If you go straight into moderate and up to high intensities, your sciatic nerve will return with a vengeance and cause you to have sustainable hard flaccid symptoms. Remember, we have to reactivate your penile tissues to "adopt" mode and not into "adapt" mode without triggering any nerve flare-up issues. Adapt mode is bad as it will push your tissues into an unsafe manner, thinking injuries of any level is perfectly fine.

What you are trying to do is create a continuous stress as it progresses upwards. Think of an injured leg. Do you want to go from sitting around to heal, standing up with light therapy, and from light therapy to get the muscle strengthen straight to jogging and running? You just came out of lower lumbardic injury earlier, and you want to add that extra stress on the sciatic nerve by jumping the gun to go even harder? If I'm there next to you right now, I would have kick you in the nuts to wake you up.

Give this approach a try. If there's no odd sensation or pulsation anywhere from the penile nerves, to the base of your pelvic, and up the spinal lumbardic region, then increase the intensity just a bit more on the pull each an every passing week. As you fee some prickly sensation, a jolt of pain, or anything odd at all, back far off, rest for a few days, and return to light and moderate pull. We're trying to protect you at the very forefront of things.

 

[Argyle]

What is a traction stretch? Is that just holding the penis in your fingers (like a jelq position) and pulling?

 

[oldandlively]

What is a traction stretch? Is that just holding the penis in your fingers (like a jelq position) and pulling?

Yes, traction stretches is a common terms used to indicated pulling using with friction. Traction is friction. Traction force is a pulling of direction using friction force to keep the pull going in one or multiple directions.

Example you used is perfect. Jelqing is a light traction force holding the foreskin to pull in one direction. LM3 traction plates is considered as traction stretch ranging from light to heavy traction force. Traction load is a measured pulling forcing, normally using a weight to simplify the meaning, such as 1kg or ~2lbs. Hanging is a great example of traction stretch, traction force (a direction being pulled) and traction load.

 

[Argyle]

Yes, traction stretches is a common terms used to indicated pulling using with friction. Traction is friction. Traction force is a pulling of direction using friction force to keep the pull going in one or multiple directions.

Example you used is perfect. Jelqing is a light traction force holding the foreskin to pull in one direction. LM3 traction plates is considered as traction stretch ranging from light to heavy traction force. Traction load is a measured pulling forcing, normally using a weight to simplify the meaning, such as 1kg or ~2lbs. Hanging is a great example of traction stretch, traction force (a direction being pulled) and traction load.

Thanks! I'll do this with the LM instead of my hands

 

[DLD]

Thanks! I'll do this with the LM instead of my hands

The Lengthmaster is the most powerful way to stretch. So glad you are moving into using your Lengthmaster.

 

[Argyle]

For the last month and a half or so, I've been unable to do any PE. Now, it's time to get back to it. I've stayed in my Silisleev each day, so luckily I haven't lost and gains made to BPSFL or BPEL. I want to start doing the routine mentioned a few posts back, but since I've had this break, I probably need to recondition my penis.

@oldandlively @huge-girth @DLD what should I do to recondition, and how long should I recondition before I start that advanced routine we discussed before?

 

[oldandlively]

Start slow and steady. Initiate the newbie routine under the SRT again. Slowly!! No need to push hard. You took time to heal and rest, take the same amount of care to get back up into conditioning routine. Go for the newbie routine for the next 3 weeks, then increase further with the intensity day by day until you get back to normal again. Remember, newbie routine is only around 2.5lb to 3lbs of traction force. Don't go too high and too fast. After 3 weeks, the traction force should be increased 0.5lb every 1 to 2 weeks to recondition your penis.

 

[Argyle]

Start slow and steady. Initiate the newbie routine under the SRT again. Slowly!! No need to push hard. You took time to heal and rest, take the same amount of care to get back up into conditioning routine. Go for the newbie routine for the next 3 weeks, then increase further with the intensity day by day until you get back to normal again. Remember, newbie routine is only around 2.5lb to 3lbs of traction force. Don't go too high and too fast. After 3 weeks, the traction force should be increased 0.5lb every 1 to 2 weeks to recondition your penis.

I've never actually done an SRT routine before. I started off with LM3 work. A beginner routine, then DLD Bundled Blasters, then BTC Bundle Stretchers. Should I start with SRT and continue it, or should I use it to get back to BTC Stretches?

I'm not quite happy with my length gains yet, and I've been told that it's better to get length goals and then focus on girth, but I think I'm ready to start working on girth alongside length. For the best gains with SRT, do I need a pump (MityVac, Bathmate)?

 

[oldandlively]

I've never actually done an SRT routine before. I started off with LM3 work. A beginner routine, then DLD Bundled Blasters, then BTC Bundle Stretchers. Should I start with SRT and continue it, or should I use it to get back to BTC Stretches?

SRT is a program, where bundled BTC stretches are part of the SRT. Bundled BTC works in stretching the ligaments and base muscles, while putting stresses on the tunica, and other exercises within the SRT helps to balance out the bundled BTC. Don't just stick with BTC without using other exercises within the SRT. For example rotators is moving your penis like a clock hand in front of you. That allows the tissues to be stretched in all angles. When you pull down and up, you balance out the tissues from not just one direction. When you use stretches from side to side, in specific angles, you're stretching the tunica ligaments to further stretching things out. BTC is just one exercise of many.

I'm not quite happy with my length gains yet, and I've been told that it's better to get length goals and then focus on girth, but I think I'm ready to start working on girth alongside length. For the best gains with SRT, do I need a pump (MityVac, Bathmate)?

If you are working girth with length, don't use Bathmate. Use something that's ready to go with safety built in. Mityvac and similar devices will be your best bet as it has pressure releases, gauge to monitor all pressure levels, and markers on the cylinders to provide you exactly the tension your penis is under while being influenced by negative pressures.

 

[DLD]

I've never actually done an SRT routine before. I started off with LM3 work. A beginner routine, then DLD Bundled Blasters, then BTC Bundle Stretchers. Should I start with SRT and continue it, or should I use it to get back to BTC Stretches?

Do it! You will be amazed at the outcome. SRT is the best all in one program ever created. You have the tool so jump in and see how it feels. Sometimes I feel like I grew faster because of prayer. I prayed daily for what I wanted and eventually got there. Try the SRT and report back.

 

[Argyle]

@oldandlively @DLD @huge-girth I have some questions about SRT.

1. Will I still make gains/Can I stay elongated (no tension) in a SiliSleeve instead of staying stretched (yes tension) in an ADS like the SiliStretcher or SizeDoctor? I don't think I'll be able to use the SiliStretcher in public based on what I need to wear at work, but I've worn a SiliSleeve ALL DAY, EVERY DAY since I bought my first one many months ago. I've noticed that I haven't lost any BPEL or BPSFL gains I made even though I haven't trained in about a month, only stayed elongated (no tension) in a SiliSleeve, and have not gotten actively stretched with tension like I would get from the SiliStretcher/SizeDoctor.

2. What does the SiliRing do differently than the SiliSleev? Are they interchangeable (can I use one or the other after training and get the same results)?

3. If I don't use a SiliStretcher, can I sleep in my SiliSleev or SiliRing instead?

4. After the 2 week beginner SRT routine, it sounds like length work should be done before girth work, with at least 4 hours in between the length and girth sessions. Is that right?

 

[oldandlively]

This is from my personal experience and perspectives. Other brothers and gurus can provide different experience and perspectives than mine. Value them all as reference.

1. Will I still make gains/Can I stay elongated (no tension) in a SiliSleeve instead of staying stretched (yes tension) in an ADS like the SiliStretcher or SizeDoctor? I don't think I'll be able to use the SiliStretcher in public based on what I need to wear at work, but I've worn a SiliSleeve ALL DAY, EVERY DAY since I bought my first one many months ago. I've noticed that I haven't lost any BPEL or BPSFL gains I made even though I haven't trained in about a month, only stayed elongated (no tension) in a SiliSleeve, and have not gotten actively stretched with tension like I would get from the SiliStretcher/SizeDoctor.

Yes you can remain elongated without tension. The method of staying elongated without tension is to promote blood flow for promoting healing and rebuilding of stressed or damaged cells from your PE routines. If you have not done any routines, but keep elongated, you are reprogramming your body to obtain a new "flaccid length" rather than new erectile length gains. Two different things. You can actually do the same thing using the SiliStretcher and extender without any tension. I've done this too in the old days, where I wear the extender, with no traction tension force at all, to keep my penis elnogated while I sleep. Since I didn't have any strong wrap around my penis, there's no kinking, no blood circulation cutting, nor any pinching on the blood vessels and and nerves. Of course, it can get pretty uncomfortable when I turned from side to side, or sleep on my stomach.

If you are wearing an extender, especially after a length routine, you are forcing your penis to create constant void gaps where your body has no other choice but to fill them up with new cells, promoting length gains and not just new flaccid length.

2. What does the SiliRing do differently than the SiliSleev? Are they interchangeable (can I use one or the other after training and get the same results)?

SiliRing or similar cock ring slows down the blood flow that entered into the penile chambers from leaving, allowing the cells to pull every bit of resources carried in by the blood cells, be oxygen, nutrients, or repair blocks. Without the cock ring, the blood flows in and it flows out within a minute. During htat time, the resources are not fully dropped off to the cells that need the materials being carried by the blood. Further more, the cock ring keeps the penis plump and enlarged, causing a bit more expansion void gaps for the body to fill with new cells for penile growth. This is mainly for girth focus.

For the penis sleeve, just like #1, it's for length programming to get a new longer looking flaccid penis, but the critical point is to promote healing after an intense length routine. For girth, it still work, but only up to 30% effective. 30% is better than not having any sleeve or cock ring at all.

3. If I don't use a SiliStretcher, can I sleep in my SiliSleev or SiliRing instead?

Yes you can. SiliStretcher is focused fully on length, just like any extender. It's to boost length growth if you combine with an intense length routine using the Length Master. If you simply use the SiliStretcher by itself without any length routine before that, it'll work with standard deviation and growth performance as when you wear an extender. A device should be optimize for growth with every little method you can get your hand on. You don't go to the gym, pump weights for 20 minutes, and call it good. You upkeep the post gym with stretches to keep your muscles from being sore, from retracting, and from atrophy due to overstressing by flexing, supplements, and possibly repetetive light workouts throughout the day.

4. After the 2 week beginner SRT routine, it sounds like length work should be done before girth work, with at least 4 hours in between the length and girth sessions. Is that right?

In the SRT, a newbie routine, or beginner routine, should be done for 2 to 5 weeks just to get the tissues acquainted with the stress loads. However, that doesn't mean you stop the newbie routine. The newbie routine is actually great as preworkout tissue warm up before the real intense workout gets started. Rather than doing 15 to 20 minutes of the newbie routine, you do a quick 3 to 5 minutes warmup using newbie routines, and then go into the more progressive intense routines. This is for both length and girth type of routine.

If you're talking about 4 hours in between each workout, yes. If you done something in the morning, say, a newbie routine to warm up, a good intense workout right after to really stretch that penis, give your penis at least 4 hours of break time using wrap, sleeve, or even extender under low tension around 1kg before resuming another intense routine. 4 hours is to allow the tissues to reset, especially your ligaments. It also allow the nerves and blood vessels to restore themselves. Any frayed or stressed nerves and blood vessels recover themselves in a 24 hours period at 1mm per day cycle. Most of the time, stretching and breaking your collagen bonds only promote 1um of per day, which is the diameter of the cell. The most optimistic growth is 1mm a day, which is crazy amount of growth under stress load using an extender after the length PE routine.

So, yes, give your penis some time to play catch up, which is a minimum of 4 hours. Good average is 6 hours to 8 hours.

 

[DLD]

Thanks @oldandlively.

 

[Argyle]

This is from my personal experience and perspectives. Other brothers and gurus can provide different experience and perspectives than mine. Value them all as reference.




Yes you can remain elongated without tension. The method of staying elongated without tension is to promote blood flow for promoting healing and rebuilding of stressed or damaged cells from your PE routines. If you have not done any routines, but keep elongated, you are reprogramming your body to obtain a new "flaccid length" rather than new erectile length gains. Two different things. You can actually do the same thing using the SiliStretcher and extender without any tension. I've done this too in the old days, where I wear the extender, with no traction tension force at all, to keep my penis elnogated while I sleep. Since I didn't have any strong wrap around my penis, there's no kinking, no blood circulation cutting, nor any pinching on the blood vessels and and nerves. Of course, it can get pretty uncomfortable when I turned from side to side, or sleep on my stomach.

If you are wearing an extender, especially after a length routine, you are forcing your penis to create constant void gaps where your body has no other choice but to fill them up with new cells, promoting length gains and not just new flaccid length.




SiliRing or similar cock ring slows down the blood flow that entered into the penile chambers from leaving, allowing the cells to pull every bit of resources carried in by the blood cells, be oxygen, nutrients, or repair blocks. Without the cock ring, the blood flows in and it flows out within a minute. During htat time, the resources are not fully dropped off to the cells that need the materials being carried by the blood. Further more, the cock ring keeps the penis plump and enlarged, causing a bit more expansion void gaps for the body to fill with new cells for penile growth. This is mainly for girth focus.

For the penis sleeve, just like #1, it's for length programming to get a new longer looking flaccid penis, but the critical point is to promote healing after an intense length routine. For girth, it still work, but only up to 30% effective. 30% is better than not having any sleeve or cock ring at all.



Yes you can. SiliStretcher is focused fully on length, just like any extender. It's to boost length growth if you combine with an intense length routine using the Length Master. If you simply use the SiliStretcher by itself without any length routine before that, it'll work with standard deviation and growth performance as when you wear an extender. A device should be optimize for growth with every little method you can get your hand on. You don't go to the gym, pump weights for 20 minutes, and call it good. You upkeep the post gym with stretches to keep your muscles from being sore, from retracting, and from atrophy due to overstressing by flexing, supplements, and possibly repetetive light workouts throughout the day.




In the SRT, a newbie routine, or beginner routine, should be done for 2 to 5 weeks just to get the tissues acquainted with the stress loads. However, that doesn't mean you stop the newbie routine. The newbie routine is actually great as preworkout tissue warm up before the real intense workout gets started. Rather than doing 15 to 20 minutes of the newbie routine, you do a quick 3 to 5 minutes warmup using newbie routines, and then go into the more progressive intense routines. This is for both length and girth type of routine.

If you're talking about 4 hours in between each workout, yes. If you done something in the morning, say, a newbie routine to warm up, a good intense workout right after to really stretch that penis, give your penis at least 4 hours of break time using wrap, sleeve, or even extender under low tension around 1kg before resuming another intense routine. 4 hours is to allow the tissues to reset, especially your ligaments. It also allow the nerves and blood vessels to restore themselves. Any frayed or stressed nerves and blood vessels recover themselves in a 24 hours period at 1mm per day cycle. Most of the time, stretching and breaking your collagen bonds only promote 1um of per day, which is the diameter of the cell. The most optimistic growth is 1mm a day, which is crazy amount of growth under stress load using an extender after the length PE routine.

So, yes, give your penis some time to play catch up, which is a minimum of 4 hours. Good average is 6 hours to 8 hours.

Thanks!

Just ordered the MityVac and a set of DuroRings.

I'll get started with the beginner SRT routine tomorrow morning. I'll do the length stuff in the morning with my LM3 and throw on my Silisleeve all day. Then I'll do my girth work/jelqs in the evening and use the cock rings after that.

Should I sleep in the SiliSleeve or in the DuroRing?