3 Forums Closed Down At Mos

Lightning

The Legendary Mistress with the Whips
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Hello Everyone,

We Closed Down the Porno Paradise Forum, The Sexy Jens Picture Forums and the Crazy Video Forums due to the "USC TITLE 18, SECTION 2257 Record Keeping Regulation for Custodian of Records".

The 2257 Regulation States that any sexual pictures/video posted or hosted on a Site/server must have a custodian of Records to compile records &
I.D.s, and must maintain, index and produce required records. Meaning that we need to have a record of each person on our site that is nude. This new regulation is affecting the whole adult industry.

If we do not comply with this regulation, our forums and site could be shut down. Our server can also be siezed by Feds. We still have to decide on what to do for the Picture Proof Section. Many Sites and Forums have already been closed down due to this new regulation.

There is also new change in 2257 regulation from 23rd of June that any site that doesn't have 2257 records regarding the age of models is considered child adult entertainment and illegal.

I also want to ad, If your advatar or Signature contains sexual Nudity, You must change it immediately.

For more Details on 2257 check out this Link
http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/pdf/2257regulationspresentation.pdf
 
There's a really sharp sociology book, came out in the mid 90s called Soft-adult entertainment Plays Hardball.

You might be able to catch a review of it around the web, or a used copy at amazon for 4 bucks or whatever (ouch, - $23 to $60 ) .... I agree with its conclusions, but have to comment on reg 2257 ...

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"The 2257 Regulation States that any sexual pictures/video posted or hosted on a Site/server must have a custodian of Records to manage all persons names, address and age. Meaning that we need to have a record of each person on our site that is nude. This new regulation is affecting the whole adult industry.

If we do not comply with this regulation, our forums and site could be shut down.

There is also new change in 2257 regulation from 23rd of June that any site that doesn't have 2257 records regarding the age of models is considered child adult entertainment and illegal."
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... OMG, ... !

It has already been Repeatedly held that almost any amount of adult entertainment is Art and Protected Free Speech.

For 2257 to even exist as explained above, it has to make the presumption that -ALL- nude images are commiting the offense of being child adult entertainment -- and places the burden of proof of innocence upon the citizenry, automatically, for every single display or type/manner of display.

The present and extremely well established US Supreme Court (USCC) position is that it is up to States and Localities to prosecute things suspected of being obscene or illegal displays.,, said prosecutions would be done on a per incident basis, ... each with due process of law and a jury trial to determine any sole prurience or obscenity, ... and that ANY manner of atmosphere equaling prior restraint against display is illegal under the First Amendment.

Further, putting the burden to prove innocence of the display upon the exhibitioner (or else they are in non-compliance) equals a Tax.

Power to tax is the power to destroy ... and doing such nonsense is also extremely illegal against the First Amendment.

(_Each_ exhibitioner would have to have enough money to employ a Custodian of Records -- or else not be able to afford the enjoyment of their First Amendment Rights ... yeah, that's about as illegal as a law can get.)

I understand [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]'s position is having to make these changes, short-term, but it's going to be fun seeing every faction you can imagine (except maybe the American Family Association) gather together and kick the living fuck out of this law in every single court it sits in.

... Har Dee Har Har .... How do such things become our laws????

:s

One more thing .... People that are run out of business because of this should be able to have redress against those that caused it. An organization needs to be established Immediately to keep track of all people this is effecting, and specially all people it puts out of business .... so together they will have more collective power after the law is overturned for stomping a hole in the government's ass.

One more thing again .... the problem with our system (in the U.S. corporate body) has always been that it is not illegal to pass illegal laws and regulations.

They get to pass and impose whatever the hell they want to, and everyone just gets to suffer under it until it becomes possible to overturn or repeal it at some later point.

Whoever the chief sponsors of the law or regulation are, (their names will be on it as the ones putting it forward), if their Resolution, Regulation, Bill, Act, whatever makes it into effect of law and is later found illegal under the Constitution ... those persons should be on that same day removed from office and begin serving a Federal imprisonment term of not less than 10 years.

Think that would slow some of the nonsense down a bit?

While I'm on it ... The sponsors should also have to 'pen' the bills personally, before witnesses, in quill and ink.

That should keep the damn bills from being three or four Thousand pages ... and being voted upon before anyone has even read what's in it ... on more than one occasion before an assembled copy even existed.

???wtf!!!??? Would anyone with any sense do that ? Why do they do that ?

Anyone that wants to assemble power against 2257, note the above points and contact everyone you know that this effects. And have them do the same.

Sheesh that's stoooopid.

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It's Not just about Nude images, its actually more about Sexual nude images. If You do a google search on the regulation, you will find the exact details.

All I know is that Many Sites & Forums have already been closed down due to this regulation.
 
I've seen some of it already tonight. Here's one list and 2 links .... this crap is insane. (Whoops, can I say "crap" now without having a photocopy of everyone's drivers license?)

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* An image of a hand holding or touching (or measuring?) genitals, or appearing to grip or stimulate genitals, is considered masturbation and is prohibited.

* An image of a hand clearly "cupping" or covering genitals for the purposes of keeping them covered is allowable.

* An image of a hand inside pants is prohibited as it implies masturbation.

-- * Pictures with more that one person that include nudity are prohibited. --

-- * All cartoons are prohibited.

* While images of a nude person on all fours is allowable, an image showing the buttocks being held apart by hands is considered explicit and is prohibited.

* In the interest of safety, images of nude children (e.g., a nude baby at the beach) will not be allowed.

* A clothed person posing with a pet is allowed, but a nude person with an animal is prohibited.

* An image of a person in a bondage or fetish outfit is allowed as long as it is not explicit and no one else is in the scene.

* Images that depict bondage or S&M "abuse" are prohibited. What do they think S&M is? (Shockingly, images from the government's Abu Ghraib prison scandal would be censored under the new regulations.)

* Digital images run through an illustrator filter on software will be held to these same standards.

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http://www.ioerror.us/2005/07/03/18-usc-2257-regulations-drive-free-speech-offshore/

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/003741.php

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.... ya know what might be funny .... if people were to leave all the pictures up, but 'Black Bar' all the tingly bits with pictures of the President and his Cabinet personnelle.

rofl

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This is crap. The most important thing is that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] doesn't get shut down. If that happened it would be reeeeaaaaally crap! So I guess that you should do what you have to to go along with the regulations.

I think that the picture proof forum is a very important part of the site because it proves the validity of members claims and helps people to carry on Penis Enlargementing.

Is it possible to take details of the people that post pictures or have posted pictures in the picture proof forum?
 
That's such bullshit, it's just fucking censorship. They may as well wipe their asses with the constitution for all it means to them apparently. >:(
 
Don't complain...Now you don't have to worry about what you find offensive anymore. The government is perfectly capable to decide this for you. So sit back, relax, and enjoy the new offensive free environment...and nevermind that chip we just stapled to your head.

This is a load of crap.
 
I definately agree that it is better to err on the side of caution and take the adult entertainment down, although I do think the law sucks. It would be a shame if our forum got taken down. I will have to look into this new law for my own forum and make a decision.
 
Well that kinda sucks...

I've made some of my best additions to the 'spank bank' from Porno Paradise... ;)

Well, if it has to come down, maybe continue with a Hot Babe section wearing just enough clothing (as was mentioned). Or maybe bring the Porno side back in a year after the government heat turns to different mindless regulation.
 
Well guys you can still go around the net on the FREE adult entertainment sites, they are plenty to look at for a quick wank here and their.
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is more important than a few cheap nude shots, so bare that in mind as we MUST comply with the law at all times...its really that simple.
 
BDS said:
what if you move the site to a server based in another country?

Good point, I know that Iran, Kazakstan, Russia and also Tokelue islands have lenient laws on adult entertainment hosted on their servers, China and North Korea might also be others if I remember correctly.....possible avenues to consider for a adult entertainment section.
 
A lot of sites seem to be just going north to Canada.

... anywhere but the good ol USofA where freedom rings .... :s

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Yeah well theirs always ways around it so with patience and time I'm sure a new method will be found so anyone whos that interested in a adult entertainment section can at least get something of that nature....my advice, just be patient and watch this space.
 
I am surprised that this would affect member sections. Talk about taking away freedoms!! First the Patriot Act took control of all Americans money, now they are clearly robbing your freedom rights. US Gov. is totally out of control and the people are continuing to let it all happen without any powerful questions. The attitude is that if it does not affect me personally, then I am not interested, no matter how abusive it is to the rights of freedom. The population have changed from being people to being sheeple, following the abusive lead of the US Govt.
 
BDS said:
what if you move the site to a server based in another country?

It's not just about where the server is based, its about where your business license resides. Yeah, we can always go to Canada and register a business there and get a server in Canada. But all that to have a adult entertainment section here? There is too much adult entertainment on the internet now anyway. I'm pretty sure the adult entertainment Paradise section getting closed down didn't change anyones life here, I hope not anyway :D
 
REDZULU2003 said:
Well guys you can still go around the net on the FREE adult entertainment sites, they are plenty to look at for a quick wank here and their.
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is more important than a few cheap nude shots, so bare that in mind as we MUST comply with the law at all times...its really that simple.

This line of thinking is insane. With all due respect Red, we MUST NOT comply with laws that go against our constitution. This continues to breed the sheeple mentality that got us into the current mess we face, namely the secret governments that are behind all these asinine laws and statues.
It has become our job to stand up to the bullshit, not follow blindly. The time is rapidly approaching when these maniacs in charge of passing this crap will be thrown out on their butts. I give them maybe 4 to 5 more months before all hell breaks loose. Then the people will once more be in charge and the constitution will once again be upheld.

Dan
 
I can't believe how many people have been intimidated into complying with this bullshit, unconstitutional regulation. What really needs to happen is someone with a few hundred grand to burn must challenge Reg 2257 and have it struck down as the worthless piece of shit it is by a high court of law. Sadly, this may go as high as the Supreme Court, but it needs to be challenged in order to set a legal precedent. So far no one has had the balls to do anything about it. Plenty of money- no balls.

Folks, this is exactly how freedom dies. There is no difference between how the Soviet Union used to do things with respect to state censorship and what's going on in America today.

DLD, the least you could do is form another corporation in Canada, an offshore jurisdiction, or somewhere else where this kind of censorship doesn't exist. Then move your server up here to Canada. We'd be glad to have ya. This process is not very complicated, or even expensive. But it is a goddamned hassle.

I pray that someone in America stands up for their First Amendment rights before they're all gone. There's a reason why the founding fathers put this fundamental right as number one. The sickening reality, however, is that few people truly appreciate their freedom until it's long gone. The US has been on a horrible downward spiral over the past 5 years, with respect to constitutional protections. This will not stop until several million people rise up and say Enough Is Enough!!!

I guess I have nothing to do now, but to leave you with this quote:

In Germany they first came for the Communists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, by that time no one was left to speak up.

--Pastor Martin Niemoller

I guess you could say these days that, "I didn't speak up because I didn't watch pornography", or, "I didn't speak up to protect my privacy because I didn't have anything to hide". So sad.
 
Hehe Lightning, the adult entertainment ain't important. :) I was merely thinking about the importance of the Picture Proof section, like some other member already mentioned. Will it still be up?
 
Baraka said:
I can't believe how many people have been intimidated into complying with this bullshit, unconstitutional regulation. What really needs to happen is someone with a few hundred grand to burn must challenge Reg 2257 and have it struck down as the worthless piece of shit it is by a high court of law. Sadly, this may go as high as the Supreme Court, but it needs to be challenged in order to set a legal precedent. So far no one has had the balls to do anything about it. Plenty of money- no balls.

Folks, this is exactly how freedom dies. There is no difference between how the Soviet Union used to do things with respect to state censorship and what's going on in America today.

DLD, the least you could do is form another corporation in Canada, an offshore jurisdiction, or somewhere else where this kind of censorship doesn't exist. Then move your server up here to Canada. We'd be glad to have ya. This process is not very complicated, or even expensive. But it is a goddamned hassle.

I pray that someone in America stands up for their First Amendment rights before they're all gone. There's a reason why the founding fathers put this fundamental right as number one. The sickening reality, however, is that few people truly appreciate their freedom until it's long gone. The US has been on a horrible downward spiral over the past 5 years, with respect to constitutional protections. This will not stop until several million people rise up and say Enough Is Enough!!!

I guess I have nothing to do now, but to leave you with this quote:

In Germany they first came for the Communists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, by that time no one was left to speak up.

--Pastor Martin Niemoller

I guess you could say these days that, "I didn't speak up because I didn't watch pornography", or, "I didn't speak up to protect my privacy because I didn't have anything to hide". So sad.

I agree Baraka. I'm happy to report that many of us have been standing up for our rights for quite some time now and very soon we'll see the first signs of that. Probably in the next 1 to 4 months we are going to see the criminals responsible for these draconian laws come down hard. The bush administration is primarily responsible for this crap and they are on the chopping block. 12 different grand juries have convened in several different states to go through evidence concerning corruption and treason within the bush administration. Already "true bill" indictments have been handed down against quite a few people including : President Bush, Vice president Cheney, Condi Rice, Tony Blair and many others. See part of the story below. You won't likely see news of these indictments in the major media for awhile yet as they are still controlled for the most part and it's likely these indictments are "sealed indictments". The house cleaning of the corrupt politicians is coming very soon and it will be a VERY thorough cleaning. It will start in America with the arrest of most of the bush administration and many congressmen/women, senators, judges, media bigwigs and on and on. Then it will move into most other countries of the world and the house cleaning will continue. This "house cleaning" is something that has been in the works for many years behind the scenes and is just about to burst into the open for everyone to finally see. After the house cleaning will come the return of true Constitutional law and and a new temporary government will be installed that will finally represent the people. Keep your eyes on the internet news for advanced knowledge of what's to come. A couple of the best sites are : www.tomflocco.com and www.cloakendagger.de/

Dan

Story :


TOMFLOCCO.COM

BUSH AND CHENEY INDICTED

A Chicago grand jury has indicted the President and Vice-President of the United States along with multiple high officials in the Bush administration

Chicago -- August 2, 2005 -- TomFlocco.com -- U.S. federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald's Chicago grand jury has issued perjury and obstruction of justice indictments to the following members of the Bush Administration: President George W. Bush, Vice-President Richard Cheney, Bush Chief of Staff Andrew Card, Cheney Chief of Staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, former Attorney General John Ashcroft, imprisoned New York Times reporter Judith Miller and former Senior Cheney advisor Mary Matalin.

There were no indications given as to whether the President and his top staff members would appear publicly before cameras at the grand jury proceedings, given the g! ravity of the charges.

Besides the Valerie Plame CIA leak case, the Fitzgerald probe is reportedly far-reaching and expanding much deeper into past White House criminal acts involving Bush-Clinton drug money laundering in Mena, Arkansas to White House involvement in 9.11; but also for sending America's young people to their deaths or to be maimed in Iraq and Afghanistan under false pretenses.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair was indicted for obstruction of justice and is reportedly consulting with members of Parliament and legal aides regarding how to avoid appearing in the U.S.A. for interrogation before Fitzgerald in Chicago.

The revelations emanated from sources close to the grand jury who spoke with federal whistleblower Thomas Heneghen in California who said White House Senior Advisor to the President Karl Rove was also indicted for perjury and was reportedly involved with Mary Matalin in a major Bush administration document shredding operation to cover-! up evidence.

Heneghen had reported over ten days ago on a TruthRadio.com broadcast that his sources close to the grand jury said former Secretary of State Colin Powell had been subpoenaed and had testified against President Bush, telling the citizen panel that the President had taken the United States to war based upon lies--a capital crime involving treason under the United States Code.

Heneghen also reported a week ago that Gonzalez and Card had been subpoened and that Tony Blair had defied his subpoena after the response time limit had expired.

Sources close to the investigation report that members of the House, Senate, 9.11 Commission and other members of the media are also under investigation as potential targets by a grand jury regarding obstruction of justice and other oversight failures linked to the 9.11 attacks--indicating that! citizen panelists working with Fitzgerald may be seeking a wholesale cleansing of what many have said is a crime-wracked White House and Congress.
 
How about you created a Porno Paradise forum and included pictures of Jen (who I presume would be happy to provide details for you, so you could have a record of her), and allow people to send in their own pictures as long as they provide their personal details with it. That way, we get adult entertainment, and you get your precious records.

What's the problem with that?


And what exactly does records mean? Do you need their name? Is that it? What other bits of information constitutes a "record"? If the record means just their names, and maybe their address and DOB, you could still include pictures of famous people, or models, because their details would be freely available on the internet, so you could get the information for your "record".


Have I missed something?
 
I....I don't get it...I mean, most of the stuff in the porno section comes from sites that already have records...why cant the people who are posting the adult entertainment just post the link they got it from......so If i post pictures I got from www.nude.com or something and www.nude.com has everything legal and all the records, all I would need to do is post the link of www.nude.com with the pictures so that the people know where I got the pictures from...Baffled am I.
 
yea I mean, its not like the pictures are comming off of our computers, they are linked too another server or something.... (btw I didn't know nude.com was a real url lmfao)
 
I gotta agree with Juggers; I read over the USC 2257 and USC 2256 (the one that defines what sexually explicit means for the purpose of the law), http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002257----000-.html

We're not the ones producing the content, but we're just linking to it. I've been to ratemyschlong.com and I don't know what's going on with them, but since pretty much everybody talking about 2257 is linking to freespeechcoalition or whatever the site is, it kind of makes me wonder if this is as serious as they say or if they're just hyping it up to get people to donate to them or whatever. Just my thoughts.
 
Wow guys, does a adult entertainment section really really matter here?
Lightning has said his piece, and its true their is TONS and TONS of free adult entertainment around the net so just visit them.
I understand why some of you are fighting this, because of the rights and freedoms ect well at the end of the day DLD and Lightning have a buisness to run and why the fuck should they take such a gamble on a few sluts on a forum which could end their licence? To make a point? where would that leave them? Its not worth it, we aint a adult entertainment site and that was always a added bonus here and it actually did sometimes cause more problems that it was worth like linking trojans and virui plus alot of the members whom inhabit that section and sections werent reguler [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] members anyways so we can now hopefully also cut down on bandwidth and get some more reguler members here, who come for the Penis Enlargement and not just the adult entertainment.
I know some will keep ranting about this and you can quote me and rights plus whatever other shit you want to the cows come home.....the fact of the matter is DLD and Lightning have made a decision to stop adult entertainment here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] because of a new regulation, so respect that and go elswhere for your adult entertainment cos its EVERYWHERE and come here for what its for, Penis enlargement and enjoy it because adult entertainment isnt that important for christ's sake.
 
BDS said:
Hehe Lightning, the adult entertainment ain't important. :) I was merely thinking about the importance of the Picture Proof section, like some other member already mentioned. Will it still be up?

I agree that picture proof is important to a certain extent, so perhaps it could be hosted overseas, if not by [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] than maybe someone could donate their domain to help?
 
rob_zoe said:
How about you created a Porno Paradise forum and included pictures of Jen (who I presume would be happy to provide details for you, so you could have a record of her), and allow people to send in their own pictures as long as they provide their personal details with it. That way, we get adult entertainment, and you get your precious records.

What's the problem with that?


And what exactly does records mean? Do you need their name? Is that it? What other bits of information constitutes a "record"? If the record means just their names, and maybe their address and DOB, you could still include pictures of famous people, or models, because their details would be freely available on the internet, so you could get the information for your "record".


Have I missed something?

Thanks for your comments RedZulu2003, but no-one has answered my question yet. Why can't everything remain the way it is? What constitutes a record? I don't really care if adult entertainment is here or not, but at least answer the question. At least explain it properly to your members.
 
rob_zoe said:
Thanks for your comments RedZulu2003, but no-one has answered my question yet. Why can't everything remain the way it is? What constitutes a record? I don't really care if adult entertainment is here or not, but at least answer the question. At least explain it properly to your members.

It's described in 2257 and 2256, here's a link to the 2257 text from Cornell Law school: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002257----000-.html

I understand that the adult entertainment forums on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] might be gone for good, which isn't really a concern for me; the mods have made their decision, and it's their forum.

In my opinion though, the 2257 controversy has been overhyped. I've been looking into it with some Google searches and so forth, and so far all that I have seen is information from freespeechcoalition, an activist site, and a couple of message boards. If it was as bad as they say, how come you don't hear about it more from news sources with an established reputation (i.e.: CNN, MSNBC, ect.)? I'd wait until something actually happens before I'd worry, rather than just take the word of one or two websites that say the sky is falling.
 
I agree that the picture proof section is the most important part under threat but it's nice to be able to show each other what we consider good adult entertainment from the rest of the internet. That said, I don't think that any of the sections are worth risking [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] over.

The idea Red had about someone from over seas donating their domain is a good one. Maybe if those that really still want these three sections to exist could band together and provide some money as an incentive for the prospective domain donator. Hopefully we can find someone suitable.
 
Jeez. Well, with the exception of Starman, I guess this message of mine has fallen on completely deaf ears. Just try to find ways to please the government. Provide "records" of things that you think are pornographic. Go ahead, guys. Good luck to you. And yeah- cock pics are not adult entertainment. Uh huh. See how sympathetic the government is when you try and explain this to them.

Baraka said:
I can't believe how many people have been intimidated into complying with this bullshit, unconstitutional regulation. What really needs to happen is someone with a few hundred grand to burn must challenge Reg 2257 and have it struck down as the worthless piece of shit it is by a high court of law. Sadly, this may go as high as the Supreme Court, but it needs to be challenged in order to set a legal precedent. So far no one has had the balls to do anything about it. Plenty of money- no balls.

Folks, this is exactly how freedom dies. There is no difference between how the Soviet Union used to do things with respect to state censorship and what's going on in America today.

DLD, the least you could do is form another corporation in Canada, an offshore jurisdiction, or somewhere else where this kind of censorship doesn't exist. Then move your server up here to Canada. We'd be glad to have ya. This process is not very complicated, or even expensive. But it is a goddamned hassle.

I pray that someone in America stands up for their First Amendment rights before they're all gone. There's a reason why the founding fathers put this fundamental right as number one. The sickening reality, however, is that few people truly appreciate their freedom until it's long gone. The US has been on a horrible downward spiral over the past 5 years, with respect to constitutional protections. This will not stop until several million people rise up and say Enough Is Enough!!!

I guess I have nothing to do now, but to leave you with this quote:

In Germany they first came for the Communists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, by that time no one was left to speak up.

--Pastor Martin Niemoller

I guess you could say these days that, "I didn't speak up because I didn't watch pornography", or, "I didn't speak up to protect my privacy because I didn't have anything to hide". So sad.
 
I can really care less about the adult entertainment section. I was just stating the obvious. DLD is just doing what he needs to do to keep this site up.
 
Don't you get it?! If this kind of shit is allowed to continue, there won't be a site anymore- adult entertainment section or not. Do you really think these people care whether there are actually any adult entertainment pics up or not? Think about it.
Juggers said:
I can really care less about the adult entertainment section. I was just stating the obvious. DLD is just doing what he needs to do to keep this site up.
 
the mods have made their decision, and it's their forum

Negative, ADMIN made the decision and thats why Lightning started this thread.
The mods including me had NOTHING to do with the decision on this

Thanks for your comments RedZulu2003, but no-one has answered my question yet. Why can't everything remain the way it is? What constitutes a record? I don't really care if adult entertainment is here or not, but at least answer the question. At least explain it properly to your members

I think Lightning has answered this, hes the guy alongwith DLD who you should be seeking the answers from as they own this site and when the shit hits the fan have to fave the music.
 
I won't miss the adult entertainment too much, but it's is so fing ridiculous that grown men can't show their body parts or their achievements while the same people who make these laws ( and it ain't just the Bush administration boys) drink like drunken sailors, abuse their power for financial gain, and screw anything that moves.

Maybe we can get a medical exemption for posting pics
 
Once we find a stable solution that is safe for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], as a whole, I will re-launch the forum.
 
The upside to all of this is that once we return to constitutional law in a few months, probably over 90% of the laws and statues we are currently burdened with will be null and void.
Under constitutional law pretty much everything will be accepted as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else or infringe on their rights.
The system we now live under was designed from the very beginning to control the slaves (us). The slavemasters are about to find out the real meaning of karma though.

Dan
 
the laws and statues we are currently burdened with will be null and void.

An illegal law is automatically null - by things of superior standing that state another thing.

The only laws greater than the Constitution are Contitutional Amendments.

If someone decides to pass a law or an act or an "executive decision directive" (cough -BULLSH*T-cough ) against the Constitution, and that thing isn't an Amendment, it is simply null on its face.

... but that won't keep the government from using force to make people abide by it.

For instance, ever notice that we have an Army?

Standing armies are illegal.

Standing Navy, ok.
Standing army, null and illegal.

Hmmm.

Doesn't mean 2257 can't be 'overturned', but it does mean that they do this crap on purpose and you absolutely have to kick the crap out of them to get anything put back the way it should have automatically stayed in the first place.

Fight hard and fight nasty. And pull in the people who will be effected next -- the probable actual targets of the effort -- ie -- websites with 'unpopular' political speech** .... add their powers to yours and fight it together.

(** like -daring- to gripe about 2257 ... and everything else being done to us ... )

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doublelongdaddy said:
Once we find a stable solution that is safe for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], as a whole, I will re-launch the forum.

Theirs your answer guys, lets see those teeth :mrgrin:
 
REDZULU2003 said:
Theirs your answer guys, lets see those teeth :mrgrin:


Yes, I make very simple, quick, to the point decisions. :)
 
LIGHTNING said:
It's not just about where the server is based, its about where your business license resides. Yeah, we can always go to Canada and register a business there and get a server in Canada. But all that to have a adult entertainment section here? There is too much adult entertainment on the internet now anyway. I'm pretty sure the adult entertainment Paradise section getting closed down didn't change anyones life here, I hope not anyway :D

Ahh man it changed mine :(
 
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