I love your new plan but I’m confused on why you cannot use your Lengthmaster? The first exercise list you gave me is the correct one.
Progress thread 25 cm by the end of 2021!
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I love your new plan but I’m confused on why you cannot use your Lengthmaster? The first exercise list you gave me is the correct one.
The Next Big Thing
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I dont have a lengthmaster and I cant order one right now. Im considering to buy it in the future but for right now I can do PE just with what I have.
So basically my main part of the length routine would be the All-4 directions stretches for 3 sets of 30 seconds?
What about progression? Should I do always the same or should I increase time under tension, number of sets etc?
Also in SRT it says to do this routine only for 2 weeks and do lengthmaster after. But since I dont have lengthmaster, what should I do?
The Next Big Thing
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Thank you so much! Why do you think I should buy a bathmate?
There is a lot you can do with a manual only routine. The basic 4 directions stretches but there is also a whole array of other stretches and techniques. I would recommend checking out FilmFreaks Progress thread as he does a lot of manual work (w/ some equipment). His routines really inspired my own and they have been working great.
Here's my current manual SRT routine
-Warm Up
-Bundled Stretch 5 min
-Total Package expressive Stretch 1x3min
-Low Shaft Grip Expressive stretch 3x1min
-Mandingo Stretch (sometimes 5x1, 10x1, or 5x2)
-sock stretches (5x1, 10x1, or 5x2)
-erect stretches (5x1 or 10x1)
-BTC stretches 3x2min
-wrap up
You can mix and match and be creative with manual routines. The sock stretches are crazy intense stretches and all you need is a longer athletic type sock. I think you can definitely make big growth in the next few months before you get the LM.
Here's the link to my thread as well. I've done manual routine and have written down my daily routines in pretty good detail. You can check it out for ideas if you want. https://mattersofsize.com/threads/growth-mindset.1821592/
Here's my current manual SRT routine
-Warm Up
-Bundled Stretch 5 min
-Total Package expressive Stretch 1x3min
-Low Shaft Grip Expressive stretch 3x1min
-Mandingo Stretch (sometimes 5x1, 10x1, or 5x2)
-sock stretches (5x1, 10x1, or 5x2)
-erect stretches (5x1 or 10x1)
-BTC stretches 3x2min
-wrap up
You can mix and match and be creative with manual routines. The sock stretches are crazy intense stretches and all you need is a longer athletic type sock. I think you can definitely make big growth in the next few months before you get the LM.
Here's the link to my thread as well. I've done manual routine and have written down my daily routines in pretty good detail. You can check it out for ideas if you want. https://mattersofsize.com/threads/growth-mindset.1821592/
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Thank you my brother for a wonderful advisement to our new friend. I love seeing brothers helping brothers! This is a perfect routine to use and When you get a Lengthmaster or a Bathmate or any equipment let me know and I can help you incorporate that.
The Next Big Thing
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Thank you so much!
One question I have is how do I know which stretch should I do? Because obviously there are different difficulties, I dont want to jump straight into the hardest stretch (because then all the inferior/weaker stretches will be no effective anymore). I remember last time I did manual length work about half year ago, I did Side-to-Side stretch, also I did the Tension stretch and also the Ruler stretch afterwards. I wonder what to do right now.
Also, how do you structure your progression in the length work? Do you increase set or time under tension and if yes by how much and how often?
The Next Big Thing
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But is bathmate also for length? I thought it works only girth. Also, by ADS you mean also a wrap?
The Next Big Thing
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Actually, I wonder if I should start my new manual routine tommorrow (that would be 6 days layoff) or the following week (13 days layoff). I really want the penis to forget about the hanging and be kind of deconditioned, healed and rested to respond faster to new stimulus.
A-Spot Spammer
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I’m using it at the moment and I’m hoping I see some length gains, however I did do a month or so of very intense manual stretching before investing a lot of time in the BM. I’ve heard that the BM can bring up to two inches but only if incorporated with jelqing (not sure how accurate the statement is though) but I have also heard that the BM or any other pump can realise gains that you’ve prepared via stretching, I.e. bringing you closer to bpfsl. Both theories seem to make sense in light of the ‘balloon’ principle oft discussed on these forums, I.e. the penis or cc’s are akin to a balloon and a gain in one direction would lead to an incremental gain in another. Either way, I’ll keep a log of gains in the BM.
The Next Big Thing
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Thats interesting. Actually, I have contemplated in the past to buy a pump, I was thinking about Penomet, since I read really good reviews on that.
So what you are saying is that one should go for pumping after a period of intense length routine?
The Next Big Thing
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What ADS do you recommend? The only ones I know of are silistretcher and phallosan forte, but that strap system is not very comfortable to me and I find it also quite difficult to addjust tension. Thats why Im considering an extender since there are no straps over your body, its just on your penis and you can addjust the tension precisely with the screws. Also most of them are 2-4 kg in tension, I think thats quite a lot.
A-Spot Spammer
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I don’t know whether I’d advocate it yet but it’s what I’ve done
I was sold on the idea of pumping by a few threads (big Schwanz acht’s in particular - you should check it out.) and bought a BM. I have seen some success with the BM, a water pump, but have not tried air pumping. I feel a bit more comfortable with the water pumping as it’s apparently safer (the suggestion is that water is a more stable medium than air) and I’ve had no mishaps despite pushing it to what I feel is my limit each session. If you want to try both water and air you could try the mityvac. It’s a good bit of kit according to reviews and has a lifetime guarantee which isn’t bad. It also has the option for changing cylinder sizes, I don’t think many other pumps have cylinders in the size range it does. I’m almost done with my BM and I’ve only had it for a month or so. I think another month, two max and I’ll be upgrading by the looks of it. Unless of course my gains in the cylinder slow down considerably.Anyhoo, I’m posting some results at the end of the month so please feel free to check them out before deciding your next step. I’d stick to the newbie or srt stretching and manual girth exercises until you know what to invest in.
The Next Big Thing
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That sounds cool, can you send me a link to your progress log?I don’t know whether I’d advocate it yet but it’s what I’ve done
Anyhoo, I’m posting some results at the end of the month so please feel free to check them out before deciding your next step. I’d stick to the newbie or srt stretching and manual girth exercises until you know what to invest in.
Also, what length routine exactly would you recommend? Because there are several in SRT - the newbie one which I dont think I can do just that for the next for 4 months and then there is the advanced one but I need apparently a length master for that, which I dont have...so Im not sure what length routine to do. I want some serious manual stretching that will give me solid gains.
The Next Big Thing
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NEW MEASUREMENTS:
NPBEL - 14,2-14,5 cm (+0,5-0,8 cm)
BPEL - 16,5-16,6 cm (+0,5-0,6 cm) ... I still need to gain 0,6 cm to get to my biggest BPEL so far (17,2 cm) once again. I want to do that by the end of June, latest July 2020.....then after that, gain at least another 4 cm by the end of this year, so I will be at least 20 cm BPEL and at least 18 cm NBPEL at the end of December 2020. These are my goals.
I had good EQ so I decided to measure and it seems I gained. Or maybe its just because I had a better EQ this time than a month ago (April 20th). Or combination of both.
Plan going forward:
By the end of June/July -> NBPEL - 15 cm
-> BPEL - 17,2 cm
By the end of September -> NBPEL - 16 cm
-> BPEL - 18,2-18,5 cm
By the end of December -> NBPEL - 18 cm
-> BPEL - 20 cm
NPBEL - 14,2-14,5 cm (+0,5-0,8 cm)
BPEL - 16,5-16,6 cm (+0,5-0,6 cm) ... I still need to gain 0,6 cm to get to my biggest BPEL so far (17,2 cm) once again. I want to do that by the end of June, latest July 2020.....then after that, gain at least another 4 cm by the end of this year, so I will be at least 20 cm BPEL and at least 18 cm NBPEL at the end of December 2020. These are my goals.
I had good EQ so I decided to measure and it seems I gained. Or maybe its just because I had a better EQ this time than a month ago (April 20th). Or combination of both.
Plan going forward:
By the end of June/July -> NBPEL - 15 cm
-> BPEL - 17,2 cm
By the end of September -> NBPEL - 16 cm
-> BPEL - 18,2-18,5 cm
By the end of December -> NBPEL - 18 cm
-> BPEL - 20 cm
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A-Spot Spammer
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Hey dude, I’m not sure how much worth it offers anyone but it’s there if you want to have a look
You’re starting from a good place. A good inch over average length which is nice!
I used the newbie routine but jazzed it up a bit with more angles and some more advanced stretches. I don’t have any kit other than my mits so I made do with v-stretches, a-stretches and other fulcrum variations. The DLD sock stretches are very intense and seem effective. I think there is a link in my routine somewhere. If not search DLD sock stretches and check them out. If you can’t find them, let me know I’ll have a look for the link.
Top tip, tie three or more football socks together to allow the use of your legs (you can reach your feet with the socks and employ all the power you can muster but be careful) or the back of your head to employ the stretch.
Make sure you get some erect stretches in as well. Essentially get hard and grip just under the glans and stretch down, straight out or up just like flaccid stretches but then grab as close to the base as you can with your other hand and pull in the same direction. The idea is that erect stretches will bring your bpel closer to your bpfsl.
I was carrying out girth work (SSJ’s) as well as length at least once everyday. You can alternate if you like or do length everyday and girth one on one off. The more you do though the better the results you can expect. But don’t overdo it, listen to your body, if you’re in genuine pain (ie something very sharp and sustained) then stop. If it is something sharp and you back straight off and go back to it and it no longer hurts I wouldn’t worry about it. If it’s something dull and achy like muscular aches, I wouldn’t worry about it even if it’s persistent.
You might also want to heal stretched for length and engorged for girth. So, wrap elongated and cock ring/hair tie respectively. The healing extended etc is the main principle of SRT.
If you gave some wrap that would be ok for healing elongated but I liked to hang a kilo or so for that. I just used a football sock with a couple of bags of lentils in it and used jitsu finger tape to attach.
If I’ve missed anything or there is anything you’re not sure of, please hit me up, but most importantly, have fun with it and do what you’re comfortable with but try to push it if you can.
Sounds good, I still think you'll have to hang weights then all day stretch to gain that length by december in my opinion, How old are you anyway's? If your young your not fully grown still, so you have natural gains still to look forward too. I'm hanging 2 hours per day though at 11 pounds, I'll increase gradually time or and weight, I'm good if I gain 2mm per month length and I'm newbie too!