+ 2"L + 1"G (1 year progress thread)

We're about 22 hours out from the start of yesterday's exercise. No soreness, just the very occasional ping or pinch. Every time I woke up last night I had a raging erection. Not due to the PDE5 inhibitor, Vardenafil (stronger viagra alternative), as that has already worn off. Which is fantastic news, no venous leak!

The fact I am still feeling minor pinches to me this means I am right on the border of too much time or too much weight. Of course I would do that because my impatient ass wants to go all in as quickly as possible. Always pushing the boundaries of what I should do physically. I think I will decrease to 1.5kg or ~3.3lbs on Monday and do the full hour erect hang.

I'll describe the soreness again for anyone as crazy as I am to try this. The ligaments at the base of my penis on top and the area just behind my testicles is where I felt it. Ever so mildly sore and it went away overnight while I slept. Probably within 9 hours because I do not recall feeling it when I woke up to pee. Its the slight pinches I'm still feeling every few hours though that tells me it was just a little too much.
 
The twitching ping or nerve signal is because of sensory reconnection and communication the body is attempting to communicate throughout the nervous system. When there's a miscommunication or delayed communication, the body sends more constant pings along the specific nerve branch to detect possible damage.

You probably went a bit more than the body was able to maintain structural integrity, and there's a stretch on the nerve branch from the hanging, possibly causin a slight fray on the nerve branch. Just reduce by a bit to see. If you go down too much, you will not feel anything. Adjust up just a bit in the following routine.

But overall, your exercises signaled the redevelopment of the penile tissues, causing more resources and functions to be diverted to the reproductive structures. You may have felt a bit something off when the body diverted the resources elsewhere, like a bit of tiredness. But overall, your erection quality is improving. This is great news. If it continues, this trend will reinvigorate your sexual health quite a bit.
 
MickeyDeese said:
We're about 22 hours out from the start of yesterday's exercise. No soreness, just the very occasional ping or pinch. Every time I woke up last night I had a raging erection. Not due to the PDE5 inhibitor, Vardenafil (stronger viagra alternative), as that has already worn off. Which is fantastic news, no venous leak!

The fact I am still feeling minor pinches to me this means I am right on the border of too much time or too much weight. Of course I would do that because my impatient ass wants to go all in as quickly as possible. Always pushing the boundaries of what I should do physically. I think I will decrease to 1.5kg or ~3.3lbs on Monday and do the full hour erect hang.

I'll describe the soreness again for anyone as crazy as I am to try this. The ligaments at the base of my penis on top and the area just behind my testicles is where I felt it. Ever so mildly sore and it went away overnight while I slept. Probably within 9 hours because I do not recall feeling it when I woke up to pee. Its the slight pinches I'm still feeling every few hours though that tells me it was just a little too much.
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What type of device are you using for hanging?
 
Motiger1 said:
What type of device are you using for hanging?
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Home made. I have the setup posted earlier in this thread.

A swivel pulley screwed under my desk, a paracord cut to length, two knots at each end with an "S" hook, one hook attaches to the vacuum cup and the other attaches to the weight(s). I can sit at my desk, swivel in my chair to hit different angels and the vacuum cup means I can wear it longer than a compression hanger.

Cost breakdown: Pulley, parachord, and hooks cost maybe $15. The rig was very inexpensive.
The vacuum cup and sleeves cost $40. Brand name doesn't matter but I do prefer FcknMint sleeves on Etsy.
The weights is where it can get expensive. Four 250g hook weights $20. One 1000g hook weight $40. Then a 5lbs weight from my home gym.
 
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oldandlively said:
The twitching ping or nerve signal is because of sensory reconnection and communication the body is attempting to communicate throughout the nervous system. When there's a miscommunication or delayed communication, the body sends more constant pings along the specific nerve branch to detect possible damage.
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I figured it was too much weight. Thankfully I only got that pinging sensation 3 or 4 times yesterday. Haven't felt any ping today. Still, nerve damage is something I want to avoid at all costs. There's no coming back from that. I'll drop down to 1.5kg (3.3lbs) for the workout tomorrow.
 
1 hour erect hang @ 3.3lbs
Pre bpsfl: 23.2cm
Post bpsfl: 24.4cm
Exactly a 5% increase.

Looks like I did lose about 0.4cm stretched flaccid length during the 4 months of girth workouts I just finished. Not too concerned. I figure it will come back quickly as I increase weight and time during these straight out erect hangs. Once again the base of my penis around the pelvic bone and underneath behind my sac is sore but not painful which is a good sign.
 
No need to worry about it. The reduction is merely a readjustment of the plasticity loadout. Something like a recalibration to future remodeling of the tissues by the body. Plenty of data for similar breast soft tissue augmentation.
 
Plasticity loadout is the tissues capacity to give in to the changes without them returning to the original state. Think about a balloon being stretched to the limit length wise and expansion wise for a long period of time. The stresses already cause the balloon to yield to the changes, but when you let the balloon relaxes from the stretched state, it shrinks a bit. This doesn't mean the balloon returns back to its previous state. It merely returns to the optimal conditions without causing the entire structure to fail. You can say it's reserving itself from failing until it needs to be stretched to the max again, without breaking.
 
oldandlively said:
Plasticity loadout is the tissues capacity to give in to the changes without them returning to the original state. Think about a balloon being stretched to the limit length wise and expansion wise for a long period of time. The stresses already cause the balloon to yield to the changes, but when you let the balloon relaxes from the stretched state, it shrinks a bit. This doesn't mean the balloon returns back to its previous state. It merely returns to the optimal conditions without causing the entire structure to fail. You can say it's reserving itself from failing until it needs to be stretched to the max again, without breaking.
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Thank you my brother
 
Whew... ok... took a little more Vardenafil than usual and had the hardest erection I've felt in years. Its been 1 1/2 hours and its not entirely gone.

Pre-bpsfl: 23.2cm

1 hour hang @ 4 4lbs (2000g or 2kg - slight increase from 3.3lbs)

Since I still have a semi erection I can't measure post bpsfl... but I did measure BPEL immediately after the hour workout.

Post BPEL: 21.8 cm (8.6 in)

New highest measurement! My previous bpel was 21.4 back in mid October. Only 3 workouts so far with low weight erect hanging and ADS on the days between, no bpsfl change, but already a difference in erect length... that's wild!

My D is sore from maintaining a 1 1/2 hour erection though. Going to use less meds next time.
 
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oldandlively said:
How's your heart rate during the peak of Vardenafil, roughly around 45 minutes in?
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Not too bad. It lowers blood pressure but I haven't felt anything weird.

I exercise every day, including a 30 minute run. My cardio is better than most for my age. I've also started taking my supplements every other day instead of every day, and only after the work out on the days I'm taking Vardenafil. And let me be clear on this, I don't need Vardenafil. I dont have ED. I lied to my doctor so I could get a prescription specifically to do erect hangs. But he has my medical file and has been my doctor for over a decade and gave me the prescription without much concern.
 
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Always be learning! Found a strain calculator specifically designed for PE. Can't link it as its not on this site.

Look up FIRe Load Calculator for those who are interested. You will need your girth in mm. And then within the calculator for the Stress field use the preset 0.17 MPa as your max and 0.1 MPa for your minimum weight load hanging results.

Essentially your should start using a heat pad at the 0.1 MPa weight, then take the heat pad off once you put on the 0.17 MPa weight. Which should be the last 15 minutes of a 1 hour incremental weight increase hanging exercise. .

This is also specific to flaccid hanging. As I am currently doing erect hanging I'm a bit worried how adding heat to already maximally expanded penile tissue under high strain might easily damage the tissue. I will finish this week... or maybe month... of tissue weight conditioning before experimenting with heat.
 
I remember this discussion going far back. The original web-base calculator is no longer around. However, the extracted info is still there. However, deformation vs ratio to high damage returns from various collected resulting data also provided poor choices in the upper weight limits.

The stress is divided into four bands which are defined very roughly as follows:

A <80N (<18lbs)
B 80-180N (18-40lbs)
C 180-280N (40-63lbs)
D >280N (>63lbs)

From these four bands, they have four types of therapy intensity/duration which are listed below with some key points:

Area S1: defined as all of band A
Stimulates fibrocytes to maintain length; until the first slight feeling of stretch. If held for a few minutes the feeling of stretch goes away (accommodates). If sustained for 20 – 30 minutes will signal fibrocytes to remodel tissue longer (sustained low load stretch). Very effective at signaling fibroblasts to remodel collagen in late inflammatory/ early proliferative phase.

Exercise: Daily - eg. ADS

Area S2: defined as lower half of band B
The elastic range actual stretching; some fibers slip, some bonds break, some fibers denature.
If sustained for 20 – 30 minutes will signal fibrocytes to remodel tissue longer (sustained low load stretch) but is difficult to tolerate for 20-30 minutes.

Exercise: Needs at least one day rest between bouts. eg. Hanging/Stretching

Area S3: defined as upper part of band B and small part of band C
Works in the elastic range and a bit of the plastic range; significant stretching; many fibers slip, bonds break, some fibers denature. Stimulates fibrocytes to remodel tissue longer with time. Painful stretch, hard tolerate.

Exercise: Needs at least one day rest between bouts(!?!). eg. Possibly stretching, though a little on the extreme side for most.

Area S4: defined as middle of band C
Not practiced by physical therapists (occasionally by surgeons with anesthesia or unconscious patients!)


There is indeed a "load calculator.xls" from the brother Kyrpa over there to make life simple. I also have that as well to do a model vs imperical data comparing in the past. It only offers a 1% to 5% positive returns while lacking the confidence level to be convincing. The plasticity model was based on a 1991 to 1997 research of soft tissues, but unfortunately, there was no further positive data return to continue the research in the penile arena. I dropped that modeling project after discovering the flawed logics.
 
Growing4Squirting said:
so much infos and knowledge here, in your opinion, is this growing phase can be stretched past 21 years old? im 27 and i just started to grow chest hair + a beard, when i touch a dumblell people think im using steroids
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well, i have news to share.
I recently came back home for a visit and i've been away for few months.

The first thing everyone around me noticed is "you got taller".

I have a window that, whenever i pass underneath it, it touches my scalp, now it touches my upper forehead, with same footwear (sandals).
I stood up in front of my old bathroom mirror and there it is, i can't see some parts of my face that i could see before.

I got taller at 27 years old, i suspected how my penis behaved was unusual and there is a clue here.

I have no idea if this uncommon or common but im open to hear your knowledgeable opinions about this, and open to experiment with Pe methods and capitalize on this gift, if it is what i think it is.

Cheers
 
If you have a late stage of growth even after adolescence, take advantage of it. It rare for adults in their late 20s to have a growth spurt, but it does happen. We are suppressed by so many manmade chemicals that we can't even predict the irregular growth patterns for young children, let alone adults with delayed hormonal development.

While you're still riding on the hormonal-rich stages of growth, possibly at the tail end, use that to encourage continuation of sexual organ development with PE exercises. It does not need to be aggressive, but mild intensity does trigger unique accelerated growth because the body determine the needs for sexual development based on the brain's reprogrammed of priorities.

We can go crazy with biological science discussions here if you like. Otherwise, the discussions will give one hell of a headache.
 
I'm just going to hand you an idea.

When hanging we're looking for a few things: comfort, ease of use, affordability, and discretion for every day use.

Vacuum cups have become the dominant method of hanging, extending, and ADS. What I propose is that you make a vacuum cup out of bronze or iron or stainless steel. this would be a cup just for hanging (maybe with the hook attachment to add more weight), or to replace ADS straps and belts. It would be counter productive to use with an extender. Could call them Heavy Metal Cups (rock n roll!) for all the toxic PE bro's out there who would gladly pay $100 per cup and then an additional $50 for personal engraving. Different vacuum cups could weigh 2lbs to 5lbs.

Regular sleeves wouldn't exactly work. There would have to be a ridge on the cup for the sleeve to grip or tuck into. Specialized sleeve just for these cups, there's another $40.
 
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