+ 2"L + 1"G (1 year progress thread)

DLD said:
No I spent my first 6 years messing. Around with creating new exercises in routines. After I hit a plateau at around nine inches, I was not able to gain any longer so I developed a very hardcore routine that turned out to be what most brothers are using today, which I call SRT. I used that for fifteen years with no modification, the only thing I changed was time and Intensity. Over the first ten years, I gained about two inches in length and one and a half inches of girth. In my first six years, I gain two inches in length and another half inch of girth. Then on and off again through the last few years, i've stuck with SRT.
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I see, I see. Thanks for sharing :)
 
MickeyDeese said:
That was the progressive loading. Started at 2.5 lbs for 30, then 3.75 lbs for 45, then 5 lbs for 45. Then start back at 2.5 lbs and repeat two more sets for the 6 hour total.
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So many brothers don't use this method and they go straight to the super heavy weights and fully relaxed. I'm glad to see a brother with a great mind to use the progressive approach, backed up by medical and biological sciences.
 
@oldandlively Hope all is well man! :) Curious — which routine would you recommend for quicker growth?

Three hours of LM3 spread throughout the day ? or one hour of LM3 combined with 2-4 hours of ADS (passive traction device) daily?
 
barnyowl said:
@oldandlively Hope all is well man! :) Curious — which routine would you recommend for quicker growth?

Three hours of LM3 spread throughout the day ? or one hour of LM3 combined with 2-4 hours of ADS (passive traction device) daily?
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Good to see you're active with post again, brother. It's depending on where you are in the journey, knowing how hard to attack the growth. From all the old posts I've recalled from you, I can suggest a form of an attack if you like. Remember, this is just a recommendation and not a full evaluation of all your logs or what you've been doing without reporting. I only have a scatter log of your info.

So, based on your past routines, let's play with the following:
  1. Warm up. You already know your tissue needs. Warm up as much as you need, with heat and/or light stretches.
  2. Use the LM3 with a 5-min light exercises, switch up to 10 minutes of bundling moderate to high tension load, back to 10-minute of moderate tension load. In between each set, keep the tissues warm, or hot.
  3. ADS should be a 4-hour interval. This is me, but I prefer giving the tissues plenty of in-place stretch time. In the entire scheme of thing, 4 hours is not much at all.
  4. If you can provide one stretch routine in the morning or noon, and one stretch at night, even better. For night time, Instead of going moderate and high tension pulling, just light to moderate tension pulling. This is just to give the tissues a good stretch before relaxation. This mirrors the 4lbs, 15lbs, 6lbs, 1.5lbs traction loading throughout the day for PE journeymen that already have at least 1 year of PE behind them, assuming they already have precondition period before hand.
I'm currently working with the brothers at the age group between 55 to 65. They already gain at least 0.5in in the past 9 months using similar approach. Instead of the LM3, they are using extenders, weights, and self-made traction devices. If those works, imagine what you can do with LM3.

But do know that ADS must maintain at the 2.5lbs of traction level. Don't let it drops below too far or rise too high. Your tissues can't handle the higher stress loads for too long of a period. This is based on cell structure integrity loading at 1kg.
 
oldandlively said:
Good to see you're active with post again, brother. It's depending on where you are in the journey, knowing how hard to attack the growth. From all the old posts I've recalled from you, I can suggest a form of an attack if you like. Remember, this is just a recommendation and not a full evaluation of all your logs or what you've been doing without reporting. I only have a scatter log of your info.

So, based on your past routines, let's play with the following:
  1. Warm up. You already know your tissue needs. Warm up as much as you need, with heat and/or light stretches.
  2. Use the LM3 with a 5-min light exercises, switch up to 10 minutes of bundling moderate to high tension load, back to 10-minute of moderate tension load. In between each set, keep the tissues warm, or hot.
  3. ADS should be a 4-hour interval. This is me, but I prefer giving the tissues plenty of in-place stretch time. In the entire scheme of thing, 4 hours is not much at all.
  4. If you can provide one stretch routine in the morning or noon, and one stretch at night, even better. For night time, Instead of going moderate and high tension pulling, just light to moderate tension pulling. This is just to give the tissues a good stretch before relaxation. This mirrors the 4lbs, 15lbs, 6lbs, 1.5lbs traction loading throughout the day for PE journeymen that already have at least 1 year of PE behind them, assuming they already have precondition period before hand.
I'm currently working with the brothers at the age group between 55 to 65. They already gain at least 0.5in in the past 9 months using similar approach. Instead of the LM3, they are using extenders, weights, and self-made traction devices. If those works, imagine what you can do with LM3.

But do know that ADS must maintain at the 2.5lbs of traction level. Don't let it drops below too far or rise too high. Your tissues can't handle the higher stress loads for too long of a period. This is based on cell structure integrity loading at 1kg.
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Thanks for writing this up oldandlively, I appreciate it. 🙏

I remember you posted somewhere, that an lm3 can achieve what a traction device can achieve in 20-40 minutes, instead of 4 hours. Something about the ADS taking hours to kick in, the glans being broken down.

I saw that post, and thought to myself..... what would happen if I used the lm3 for 2 hours.

So that's why I thought I asked, thanks again for sharing.
 
barnyowl said:
Thanks for writing this up oldandlively, I appreciate it. 🙏

I remember you posted somewhere, that an lm3 can achieve what a traction device can achieve in 20-40 minutes, instead of 4 hours. Something about the ADS taking hours to kick in, the glans being broken down.
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That is correct. Rather than somewhere, it's practically everywhere. LM3 traction loading is 5 to 10 times the amount of traction force any ADS and Extender system can provide at max spring tension. I have extender with 11lbs (original, now around 7lbs) spring sets. I still have a new set of those springs that go up to 15lbs. But the extender can only create a dynamic traction loading effectiveness after at least 2 hours under tension.

Using the LM3, you're already putting the same amount of traction loading using your arms. Rather than just placing the traction loading in a linear fashion like an extender or stretcher, you can put contortional stretches to break down the tissues even faster. Contortional stretches is the bundling, where you twist your penis up to break down the tissues surrounding the tunica and the septum, the tough fibrous tissues that cause your penis not to lengthen with just extender usage. 10 minutes on the LM3 is practically 1 hour on the extender at full tension loads. 20 minutes on the LM3 is equivalent to 2 hours. Once you hit the 30 to 40 minutes marks, it's no longer 6 to 8 hours but 10 to 14 hours. It's slightly more than linear and less than exponential tissue fatigue. We can go into bio-mechanical fatigue if you like, but I'll leave it there.

barnyowl said:
I saw that post, and thought to myself..... what would happen if I used the lm3 for 2 hours.
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If you do the LM3 for 2 hours a day, that's placing your fatigue zone into the 16 to 18 hour of fatigue zone. But at the same time, you have to ask yourself, what's the amount of traction loading you're putting your penis through. This is why we always say to "measure your traction force" based on the amount of free/hanging/scale weights to just get into the ball park of measurement. Then create a traction/weight log for every 3 to 4 weeks. This will tell us where yo are in the whole scheme of traction loading and effective growth. Our brother @9.5inchpro is practically at 40lbs dynamic loading using his LM3. How do we know this? He's reach internal tissue tears even after year of extreme pulling with very thick tunica and septum tissue resistance. To tear internal tissues, he has to reach between 35 to 45lbs of pure pulling and twisting (not free weight hanging).

barnyowl said:
So that's why I thought I asked, thanks again for sharing.
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For now, think of this mode for the gain attacks. At the same time, find a way to measure your pulling load. It can be a hanging scale (fish scale or SiliScale), free hanging weights, or just by pure pulling intuition you've developed from lifting weights or hauling weights.
 
oldandlively said:
Using the LM3, you're already putting the same amount of traction loading using your arms. Rather than just placing the traction loading in a linear fashion like an extender or stretcher, you can put contortional stretches to break down the tissues even faster. Contortional stretches is the bundling, where you twist your penis up to break down the tissues surrounding the tunica and the septum, the tough fibrous tissues that cause your penis not to lengthen with just extender usage. 10 minutes on the LM3 is practically 1 hour on the extender at full tension loads. 20 minutes on the LM3 is equivalent to 2 hours. Once you hit the 30 to 40 minutes marks, it's no longer 6 to 8 hours but 10 to 14 hours. It's slightly more than linear and less than exponential tissue fatigue. We can go into bio-mechanical fatigue if you like, but I'll leave it there.
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Thanks for breaking it down 😀.
oldandlively said:
If you do the LM3 for 2 hours a day, that's placing your fatigue zone into the 16 to 18 hour of fatigue zone. But at the same time, you have to ask yourself, what's the amount of traction loading you're putting your penis through. This is why we always say to "measure your traction force" based on the amount of free/hanging/scale weights to just get into the ball park of measurement. Then create a traction/weight log for every 3 to 4 weeks. This will tell us where yo are in the whole scheme of traction loading and effective growth. Our brother @9.5inchpro is practically at 40lbs dynamic loading using his LM3. How do we know this? He's reach internal tissue tears even after year of extreme pulling with very thick tunica and septum tissue resistance. To tear internal tissues, he has to reach between 35 to 45lbs of pure pulling and twisting (not free weight hanging)
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When you talk about 35 - 45 lbs, are you assuming that the LM3 is being used with an added weight on it ?

The LM3 comes with a hook that you can attach weight. So when you talk about this scenario, are you assuming the person is doing contortional stretches, and, has added weight attached on the hook ?

I have only been doing contortional stretches since I had the lm3. So adding weight along with doing contortional stretches will add more intensity to the workout right ?
 
barnyowl said:
When you talk about 35 - 45 lbs, are you assuming that the LM3 is being used with an added weight on it ?
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No. Think of the 35-45lbs of mechanical offset weight. The best comparison is the BowFlex equivalent bow tension vs free weight hang tension. When you use your arms, you're generating a more gentle mechanical tension compared to the gravity hanging tension (or use in a pulley combination). Your arms can easily create a dynamic range of tension of 0lb to 100lbs on demand, where your free weight is static as is. You are constantly in control of the traction tension you need. No extra weight required to be hung on the LM3, unless you want to use the LM3 strapping plates for hanging purposes. That works too.

barnyowl said:
The LM3 comes with a hook that you can attach weight. So when you talk about this scenario, are you assuming the person is doing contortional stretches, and, has added weight attached on the hook ?
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Correct. The LM3 strapping plates that has the polystrap is meant for hanging purposes. It's a loop to hold onto the weight hook for the plate system. Or, you can use that poly strap to hook onto a pulley system for an overhead hang (penis point upwards,hand-free). KingSnake started this, and a few other brothers, including myself, use pulley system while we're laying on the bed for straight down pulling using free weights.

barnyowl said:
I have only been doing contortional stretches since I had the lm3. So adding weight along with doing contortional stretches will add more intensity to the workout right ?
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If you're doing contortional stretches while using hanging weights, the weight will be constantly static. What does that mean? It means, you're will be subjected to constant weight until you change out your weight. There is no dynamic range of weight unless you pull the weight up to ease up the tension. Is it good? Yes, if it's only for a 3 to 5 minutes period, less than 10lbs. No, if you're planning to hang for too long (more than 5 minutes) more than 10lbs. Your glans is subjected to intense fluid pressure (head pressure) which can cause bloody blisters.
 
oldandlively said:
No. Think of the 35-45lbs of mechanical offset weight. The best comparison is the BowFlex equivalent bow tension vs free weight hang tension. When you use your arms, you're generating a more gentle mechanical tension compared to the gravity hanging tension (or use in a pulley combination). Your arms can easily create a dynamic range of tension of 0lb to 100lbs on demand, where your free weight is static as is. You are constantly in control of the traction tension you need. No extra weight required to be hung on the LM3, unless you want to use the LM3 strapping plates for hanging purposes. That works too.
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Ahh I see.
oldandlively said:
Correct. The LM3 strapping plates that has the polystrap is meant for hanging purposes. It's a loop to hold onto the weight hook for the plate system. Or, you can use that poly strap to hook onto a pulley system for an overhead hang (penis point upwards,hand-free). KingSnake started this, and a few other brothers, including myself, use pulley system while we're laying on the bed for straight down pulling using free weights.
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Ahhh I see. That makes sense.

oldandlively said:
If you're doing contortional stretches while using hanging weights, the weight will be constantly static. What does that mean? It means, you're will be subjected to constant weight until you change out your weight. There is no dynamic range of weight unless you pull the weight up to ease up the tension. Is it good? Yes, if it's only for a 3 to 5 minutes period, less than 10lbs. No, if you're planning to hang for too long (more than 5 minutes) more than 10lbs. Your glans is subjected to intense fluid pressure (head pressure) which can cause bloody blisters.
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Hmmmm.... interesting, sounds painful. I saw some post on here about a guy bleeding everytime he uses the lm3. I never had that issue, but that makes me question, maybe im not twisting hard enough lol 😅
 
It's surely an adult entertainment thing between the two lovers :D Remember, it's about stimulating your thoughts to encourage a successful PE journey in making the partner *squirt* *squirt* *moan*...then pass out.
 
barnyowl said:
Thought this was a adult entertainment thing.... I didn't think size mattered in terms of a woman squirting. I thought it was more about a mental stimulation thing on there end.
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Had a one night stand... 15 years ago... Jesus its been a long time since I was single... anyways, Stephanie, grand daughter of a former republican senator. Absolutely epic boobs. These things had their own gravitational orbit. She started the night off telling me she doesn't do one night stands. We go out, get food, get drinks, walk around her town for a bit, go back to her place, start making out, she's on top and starts grinding then suggests we go to her bedroom. So much for not hooking up the first night you meet someone. At the time I'm only 6.4 x 5 which I guess is bigger than what she was used to cause the noises this woman made I thought she was possessed. Maybe some repressed conservative sexual thing, who knows. Anyways she squirts so much and so often over the next hour her entire bed is practically a freaking lake by the time I'm done. Like a popped water bed. I've been with women who have squirted before, my wife does on occasion, but not like this one. She has this look where she's staring at the ceiling, where if you've seen it, you know the look. Like she's just fallen in love, but only with your dick. This look of confusion and regret and justification and validation all going through her mind simultaneously as she tries to process what the fuck just happened to her. Like, 'I can't believe I just had sex with a guy I just met!', but also, 'holy fuck... I've never had sex that good in my life before!' She was fun. I didn't call her back cause it was a two hour drive to her place from where I was staying. She hit me up multiple times a day for an entire week before I told her I wasn't coming back. The novel of profanity I got from her when I told her was epic. You can only make a woman that extremely angry by just withholding sex only if you did something really good.
 
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barnyowl said:
This thread is inspiring me to level up my routine. I been doing 40 minutes a day with lenghtmaster, gains have been very very very slow. I might do 3 hours a day with lenghtmaster to see if anything changes.

Consider yourself lucky to grow that much in this period of time.... but maybe your putting in way more hours than the average PE guy on here.

I've only grown 1.7 inches in less than a year. August would be a complete year for me. Started this journey Aug 2024.
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Add one more 20 minutes to your length master sessions to make a total of 1 hour daily. Always use the Ace bandage for wrapping to stay elongated. Stretch out the penis with one hand while wrapping it with the other hand. The flaccid penis needs to be stretched while being wrapped at the same time.
 
huge-girth said:
Add one more 20 minutes to your length master sessions to make a total of 1 hour daily. Always use the Ace bandage for wrapping to stay elongated. Stretch out the penis with one hand while wrapping it with the other hand. The flaccid penis needs to be stretched while being wrapped at the same time.
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Hey huge girth, thanks for the suggestion, hope all is well with you.

Where are you at in your PE journey since using the lm3 ?
 
MickeyDeese said:
Sometimes an hour and a half, sometimes 3 hours... Usually 2 hours length work every single day. With an additional 30 minutes dedicated to girth work every 2nd or 3rd day. It changes depending on my focus at the time.

This isn't counting the passive stuff I do such as wear a loose cock ring or ads for several hours after each exercise, or the various supplements I take every day.
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huge-girth said:
I gained 2.25 inches with the length master. I trained for 1 hour daily and always wrapped with the ace bandage. This style of training becomes very addictive over time.
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what is your size now
 
So much accomplished in this thread overnight.I'm just blown away with the great advice
 
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