With a bit more time, your penis may be as long as the full ruler itself 
+ 2"L + 1"G (1 year progress thread)
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MickeyDeese
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Started at 6.4" bpel. I'll be happy when I get to 8.4" bpel. Which I'm certain is achievable within the next 3 to 6 months (currently hovering just below 8"). If I can hit +3" at 9.4" bpel within 2 years I will be ecstatic. Anything over 10" would just be vanity... but if I can hit 9 then I'm absolutely shooting for 10 lol.With a bit more time, your penis may be as long as the full ruler itself
I wrapped out my gains close to the end of the ruler. Never got to 12" but pretty damn close.With a bit more time, your penis may be as long as the full ruler itself
MickeyDeese
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So... I was doing some fatigue pump sets which I haven't done in maybe 3 months, and after about 12 minutes of 10 second interval bath pumping at -14hg with a cockring on I'm now packing about 2/3 of my shaft into a 2.125" diameter cylinder. The circumference calculator says that is 6.7"... the edema is very minimal too... which means I'm solidifying gains and condensing tissue. Just kind of in a bit of shock since I stopped most of my girth work in February. I read that bundled extending can give some strong girth gains, but damn... I was not expecting that. If I solidifying gains at 6.7" G.... that is literally +1.5" girth since I started 9 months ago. That is insane. At this rate I might have to get a 2,25" diameter (7" circumference) tube by 2026.
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You are packing some major size in there brother. You are literally at the upper edge of black magic growth zone there. But good gawd brother! 7in!?
MickeyDeese
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I was already fairly big to begin with at 6.5 x 5.2. After 9 months of PE I'm now (without edema) pushing 8 x 6.2. It doesn't seem like I'm doing a lot because I'm the one doing it, but taking a step back and looking from an outside perspective I'm putting in a minimum of 2 hours of PE (not counting the several hours I wear a cockring) every single day, zero days off, with 4 alternating primary workouts, plus the vitamins and supplements. I'm not trying to gain girth but I've added an additional 2mm since stopping clamping in February.
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longerdick
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Good advice
in many cases people need to concentrate on what they want most. If you want girth most stick with the SRT girth portion. and if you want length focus on length portion of SRT.MickeyDeese
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Currently calculating my hang weight to stretch limit using a percentage difference calculator.
Percentage Difference Calculator
Value A = Start BPSFL
Value B = End BPSFL
Your % difference should be between 3% to 5% after 1 hour. If you're using over 10 pounds to hang then after an hour anything less than +3% means you're strengthening the tissue to work against the weight you're using, anything over +5% you're risking serious injury. If you're hanging less than 2.5 pounds and not hitting 3%-5% within an hour then you should increase the weight to 5lbs.
What I've found is that when hanging, I can hit +3% at 1/2 an hour using 2.5lbs weight. By increasing to 5lbs I can hit 4.7% after an hour.
This is really fine tuning and optimizing my workout session for best results without injury. I'm also finding it surprising that I'm hitting these numbers with such low weight. It leads me to believe hanging with high weight is counter productive. If you're consistently hitting +2% or less after an hour of hanging heavy weight then its probably time to do a week long deconditioning.
This % calculator can also be used to find your optimal pump pressure and time, as well as extender tension. Input the before and after BPSFL or Girth measurements and you'll be able to find the best time + weight/pressure to work with for every workout. How much time, and at what weight or pressure, does it take for you to hit 3%-5%?
For example with my recent work outs:
- 5lbs hang for 1 hour = 21.4 cm to 22.2 cm which is +4.7% (perfect).
- The fatigue pump I mentioned the other day of 14hg for 12 minutes... 6.2" to 6.7" is +7.75% (too high) which is why I rarely do this.
Percentage Difference Calculator
Value A = Start BPSFL
Value B = End BPSFL
Your % difference should be between 3% to 5% after 1 hour. If you're using over 10 pounds to hang then after an hour anything less than +3% means you're strengthening the tissue to work against the weight you're using, anything over +5% you're risking serious injury. If you're hanging less than 2.5 pounds and not hitting 3%-5% within an hour then you should increase the weight to 5lbs.
What I've found is that when hanging, I can hit +3% at 1/2 an hour using 2.5lbs weight. By increasing to 5lbs I can hit 4.7% after an hour.
This is really fine tuning and optimizing my workout session for best results without injury. I'm also finding it surprising that I'm hitting these numbers with such low weight. It leads me to believe hanging with high weight is counter productive. If you're consistently hitting +2% or less after an hour of hanging heavy weight then its probably time to do a week long deconditioning.
This % calculator can also be used to find your optimal pump pressure and time, as well as extender tension. Input the before and after BPSFL or Girth measurements and you'll be able to find the best time + weight/pressure to work with for every workout. How much time, and at what weight or pressure, does it take for you to hit 3%-5%?
For example with my recent work outs:
- 5lbs hang for 1 hour = 21.4 cm to 22.2 cm which is +4.7% (perfect).
- The fatigue pump I mentioned the other day of 14hg for 12 minutes... 6.2" to 6.7" is +7.75% (too high) which is why I rarely do this.
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Good scientific approach. Noticed the 2.5lbs, which is the studied 1.15 to 1.2kg of traction force, influences over the penile tissues for growth over time. Most growth requires just 1% to around 2.5% in additional length stretches. But to reach up to 3% towards 5%, that's considered as a blessing. You're right about the 10lbs resistant because of the tug-back effects, where the body is protecting itself from harm. This is why researchers recommends only approach with 1% to 2.5% for average nominal growth. Of course, studies can be rejected and improved.
Are you sure you don't have a master in biological sciences? Most researchers don't approach this calculation method and only study the post effects of influences. Only specialized PE fanatics and enthusiasts, including out-of-their-mind researcher dwelve this deep. Welcome to the hidden side, brother.
MickeyDeese
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I wouldn't say fanatic. Begrudging enthusiast maybe? Personally I'm very lazy and would like to do other things than hang weights off my D for hours every day. But I do read articles on r/TheScienceOfPE (definitely worth checking out) maybe once every couple weeks. Most of the information is highly convoluted and irrelevant in its nuance, and attuned more towards autistic individuals who have a niche for bio-mathematics. Still, you can pick up some very useful tips, tricks, and information from these extremely smart individuals (once you convert the scientific and mathematic lingo into something everyone can understand) which can be applied by anyone for maximum gains. For instance, they would post the 20 step mathematic formula to calculate the percentage difference... fuck that, I'll just use a calculator that does it for me lol.
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MickeyDeese
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I have been using chatgpt to store my measurements. I've been tracking bpel near monthly since I started. Bpsfl I have been doing daily only for the last couple months. Chatgpt has the capability to calculate plot points into best fit lines. It is not so good at predicting plateaus or depreciating returns. As you can see I had a fairly significant plateau between December and March. Still, this is what I have so far with a prediction up to the 1 year mark. Bpel prediction at 21.8cm or 8.6" which would be just over 2 inches growth within 12 months. Can't wait to find out how accurate this is.
Looks like you got the linear trend analysis rolling. Very nice comparison of predictive vs actual.
MickeyDeese
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@oldandlively - I've developed a, to my knowledge, unique theory based on my own brief experience. Tell me if anyone has done anything like this.
Whenever I see anyone ask, should I do length or girth? The answer is almost exclusively, 'focus on what you want more. Pick a realistic target and only switch to the other routine until after you hit your main goal.'
I have seen some better than average gains within 9 months having pushed through one plateau only by incorporating new exercises and essentially an entirely different routine. Went from girth to length after a 3 month plateau... and instantly had a huge jump in gains again.
What I'm thinking is like how a worm moves. It compresses and gets fat, then stretches out long. Compress, then stretch, compress, then stretch.
Do you think there may be any benefit to switching routine focus from length to girth, or girth to length, once you hit a plateau?
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Yep. this is what we've been saying to the brothers constantly to switch. Hitting plateaus can come in two fronts: hard wall plateau where both length and girth get the hard pause, or single moderate plateau where one or the other got hindered from growth. As you described, if one is pursuing length and hit a moderate plateau, you can switch to pursue the other one. When girth is pursued as length hits a plateau, it's not a theory but a proven fact that lateral expansion helps to break the tunica ligaments and fascias (skin layers) outwards in girth gains. In reality, it actually translate to also length gains the moment you switch over to length again. Think of tissues not as a double dimensional breakdown. Think of the tissues as triple dimensional. Cells are not just growing in layers. They grow in void gaps compose of three dimensional expansion and extension: outwards, angles, and lengthwards.
Good to see a scientifically minded person. Don't limit by the knowledge of others but expand your horizons to understanding the base fundamental understanding of the biological growth, and then expand forward with scientific data collected. You've nailed a hidden fact that most people don't think about with a silver bullet.
I love this! I always dug deeper using my own knowledge and understanding to reach different and creative ways forward in equipment and exercise. One of my first exercises were DLD Blasters. Although this took a bit of time but eventually it took off and all men started using it making record growth. The same went into all of my exercises and equipment development. Today I have created 100s of exercises, routines and tools.
Do not be afraid to try something new from your point of view. when you really concentrate on all of this you too can become a creator. Or if you have an exercise or idea for a tool but do not know how to make it happen lean on us and we can, as a brotherhood, help you get there. Always look for improvements in whatever you do.
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Interesting though.
I was asking my friend AI about blood clots risk and it sais pumping after clamping has increased risk for it comparing to lower risk clamping after pumping.
Since clamping constrict blood vessels and then pumping forcing blood into it.
@oldandnatively
Interesting though.
I was asking my friend AI about blood clots risk and it sais pumping after clamping has increased risk for it comparing to lower risk clamping after pumping.
Since clamping constrict blood vessels and then pumping forcing blood into it.
Clamping in general creates risk for blood clot. Clamping and pumping in the same set is not recommended in no way, either before or after pumping. That extend the blood from cycling through after a period of 5 minutes, causing a greater chance of blood clotting. If you are doing pumping, and you want clamp, do that separately as different exercises and never together as one exercise. If there is a reason for the both to be done together, time limits must be within 5 minutes.
MickeyDeese
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Just finished a week long decon. Not even stretching for an entire week was needed. Went on vacation for a week for a friend's birthday. Measured stretched flaccid at 22.8 cm (9 inches). Measured last night and maintained 22.8 cm stretched flaccid.
I did notice something odd about my BPEL. I'm hitting 20.6 cm (8.1 in) hands free no problem, yet I can also get an erect stretch up to 22 cm (8.6 in) which is surprising. It doesn't feel like my EQ is lacking at all but there is about a 1 1/2 cm difference between normal and total EL.
Currently sitting here "working" with the under table hanger doing 5 lbs going on 2 hours.
*edit* 22.8 cm after 2 hour hang
I did notice something odd about my BPEL. I'm hitting 20.6 cm (8.1 in) hands free no problem, yet I can also get an erect stretch up to 22 cm (8.6 in) which is surprising. It doesn't feel like my EQ is lacking at all but there is about a 1 1/2 cm difference between normal and total EL.
Currently sitting here "working" with the under table hanger doing 5 lbs going on 2 hours.
*edit* 22.8 cm after 2 hour hang
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