Need a reset - how’s this routine

Don’t want to bore you with my story but I have been doing PE very consistently for 3-4 years. I have only gained .75” in bpel, and .25” in girth. I have a pump, extenders, hangers, rings, sleeves. I have done plenty of manual routines as well as with the tools above. I focus on increasing intensity/reps in my exercises. I typically go 4 days a week (2 on, 1off, 2 on, 2 off). I try to take a week break every 8-12 weeks. I have also even recently took a whole month off which I had never done.

At any rate I need to do something different since I have not gained for sometime. I have been reading here and am thinking about this routine. I do not want to get injured so please tell me if you seen any red flags:

I want to do this 5 days a week (5 on 2 off) instead of 4.

Morning length:
Warm up with rice bag

4 sets of 30 seconds of Bundles by hand
Straight up to Center
Straight up to the Left
Straight up to the Right
Straight Down to the Center
Straight Down to Left
Straight Down to Right
Straight Out to the Center
Straight Out to Left
Straight Out to Right
Behind the Cheeks to Center
Behind the Cheeks to Left
Behind the Cheeks to Right

Extend at lightest tension for 1-2 hrs taking breaks every 45 minutes?

Passive sleeve for as long as possible.


Later in the afternoon girth:

Girth program (SRT 5x5x3)
(5min slow squash jelq +
5min pump dry low pressure)x3
Cock ring for 40 min-1hr



How does this look?

My questions:
Should my tension be slow and not progressive in the ADS since I’m just trying to stay elongated?

Should my pressure stay consistent or progress in the vac? I don’t want to overdo it

How long should I wait to measure to decide if this is working? I had been measuring every 2 weeks as recommended by a coaching service.

Thanks for your help!

usa4tw said:

Don’t want to bore you with my story but I have been doing PE very consistently for 3-4 years. I have only gained .75” in bpel, and .25” in girth. I have a pump, extenders, hangers, rings, sleeves. I have done plenty of manual routines as well as with the tools above. I focus on increasing intensity/reps in my exercises. I typically go 4 days a week (2 on, 1off, 2 on, 2 off). I try to take a week break every 8-12 weeks. I have also even recently took a whole month off which I had never done.

At any rate I need to do something different since I have not gained for sometime. I have been reading here and am thinking about this routine. I do not want to get injured so please tell me if you seen any red flags:

I want to do this 5 days a week (5 on 2 off) instead of 4.

Morning length:
Warm up with rice bag

4 sets of 30 seconds of Bundles by hand
Straight up to Center
Straight up to the Left
Straight up to the Right
Straight Down to the Center
Straight Down to Left
Straight Down to Right
Straight Out to the Center
Straight Out to Left
Straight Out to Right
Behind the Cheeks to Center
Behind the Cheeks to Left
Behind the Cheeks to Right

Extend at lightest tension for 1-2 hrs taking breaks every 45 minutes?

Passive sleeve for as long as possible.


Later in the afternoon girth:

5x5x3
(5min slow squash jelq +
5min pump dry low pressure)x3
Cock ring for 40 min-1hr



How does this look?

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This is a great safe and steady routine.

usa4tw said:

My questions:
Should my tension be slow and not progressive in the ADS since I’m just trying to stay elongated?

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Correct. If you are not trying to gain but stay steadfast to slightly above maintaining, this is the way to go as you cement your gains. However the moment you need to gain or cement while possibly add some extra, progressive tension is needed just above 1kg of traction force, with lengthening routine to initiate the tissue breakdown.

usa4tw said:

Should my pressure stay consistent or progress in the vac? I don’t want to overdo it

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To maintain and cementing, stay the pressure. If you want cementing while gaining a bit more, up to 2inHg in a dynamic increase and decrease of pressures in a 30 second interval.

usa4tw said:

How long should I wait to measure to decide if this is working? I had been measuring every 2 weeks as recommended by a coaching service.

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Every month to 2 months. It takes the body to adjust to the pressures and routine. Visual gains doesn't just pop up. Allow the body time to adjust with the gains and cementing of the soft tissues.

usa4tw said:

Thanks for your help!

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Ask as much questions as you need to be utterly sure.

I did this exact routine using the LengthMaster - Penis Bundle Stretcher & Weight Hanging and I grew quite a bit. I think you will do awesome with this routine.

great thank you!

usa4tw said:

great thank you!

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God bless 🙌

Did the first workout of this today and it went well. Tension was low in the extender (less than 1kg), probably wore it almost 3-4 total hours then an hour of passive sleeve.

For the pumping I stayed between 3-5hg. Wore the rings about 45-1hr after that.

Question is how do I progress since I don’t really add reps or time to the manual? Do I just slowly add my intensity in my manuals (pull harder, squeeze harder? Or up the tension/hg as suggested above or both?

usa4tw said:

Did the first workout of this today and it went well. Tension was low in the extender (less than 1kg), probably wore it almost 3-4 total hours then an hour of passive sleeve.

For the pumping I stayed between 3-5hg. Wore the rings about 45-1hr after that.

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Well done with the first routine. It will get better over time as your penile body gets more conditioned. As the traction force increases, if you're not conditioned, the amount of time under tension will be much less. Remember to do always do a preliminary bundled stretches with the traction device. It doesn't matter if it's a few minutes to an hour. A few minutes is better than none. That will help with the preparation for elongation under the traction device. Once you reach 3 to 4 months into using the traciton device, let us know. We'll teach you how to use the traction device from beginner level to a higher form in the intermediate level. This involves contortion of the penis while under traction. Do not do this until you are a few months in.

usa4tw said:

Question is how do I progress since I don’t really add reps or time to the manual?

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This is a two front question. Are you talking about adding reps to the traction devices, or reps and time to manual workout before the traction device usage?

As mentioned above, make sure to use the bundled stretches before using the devices. Most manual stretches range between 10 minutes to 15 minutes. This is to prep the tissues for elongation under traction time. But, as you progress over the courses of the first month to two months, you start adding dynamic traction force during manual stretches. Don't stay constantly at one traction tension force. Dynamic is a different level of traction force ranges to pull and tug on your penis, allowing the penis the time to relax and engage. It's practically like doing routines at the gym. Yes, the penis has soft tissues, but there are hard tissues within it as well. Any exercise to any tissue can and should be treated the same.

usa4tw said:

Do I just slowly add my intensity in my manuals (pull harder, squeeze harder?

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Yes, constantly. Pull light for 10 seconds, then moderately for 10 more seconds, and back to light for 10 seconds, and then relax. Then moderate for 10 seconds, harder for 10 seconds, back to moderate for 10 seconds, then relax. Two cycles same routine. Once you advance further, your aggressive pulling will be even harder to hardest.

usa4tw said:

Or up the tension/hg as suggested above or both?

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Tension force is in kg/lbs. inHg is vacuum pressure.

But yes, progressive traction force as needed. When you just start out, and to be VERY SAFE, allow the penis to adjust for the first month. Do not exceed 4lbs of pulling force even in a dynamic form. Once you reach second month, you can go up to 5lbs. Every passing month, you can increase by 0.5lb to 1lb. Do not exceed the progressive traction force. Your body will reject and force the penis to do a tug back to prevent injuries. It may appear to just "lose some length". In reality, it pulls itself far into the body to rest from the micro traumas.

oldandlively said:

Well done with the first routine. It will get better over time as your penile body gets more conditioned. As the traction force increases, if you're not conditioned, the amount of time under tension will be much less. Remember to do always do a preliminary bundled stretches with the traction device. It doesn't matter if it's a few minutes to an hour. A few minutes is better than none. That will help with the preparation for elongation under the traction device. Once you reach 3 to 4 months into using the traciton device, let us know. We'll teach you how to use the traction device from beginner level to a higher form in the intermediate level. This involves contortion of the penis while under traction. Do not do this until you are a few months in.


This is a two front question. Are you talking about adding reps to the traction devices, or reps and time to manual workout before the traction device usage?

As mentioned above, make sure to use the bundled stretches before using the devices. Most manual stretches range between 10 minutes to 15 minutes. This is to prep the tissues for elongation under traction time. But, as you progress over the courses of the first month to two months, you start adding dynamic traction force during manual stretches. Don't stay constantly at one traction tension force. Dynamic is a different level of traction force ranges to pull and tug on your penis, allowing the penis the time to relax and engage. It's practically like doing routines at the gym. Yes, the penis has soft tissues, but there are hard tissues within it as well. Any exercise to any tissue can and should be treated the same.


Yes, constantly. Pull light for 10 seconds, then moderately for 10 more seconds, and back to light for 10 seconds, and then relax. Then moderate for 10 seconds, harder for 10 seconds, back to moderate for 10 seconds, then relax. Two cycles same routine. Once you advance further, your aggressive pulling will be even harder to hardest.


Tension force is in kg/lbs. inHg is vacuum pressure.

But yes, progressive traction force as needed. When you just start out, and to be VERY SAFE, allow the penis to adjust for the first month. Do not exceed 4lbs of pulling force even in a dynamic form. Once you reach second month, you can go up to 5lbs. Every passing month, you can increase by 0.5lb to 1lb. Do not exceed the progressive traction force. Your body will reject and force the penis to do a tug back to prevent injuries. It may appear to just "lose some length". In reality, it pulls itself far into the body to rest from the micro traumas.

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Thanks I am fairly conditioned from pe I have done for the last 4 years so today felt really easy.

Sorry my questions weren’t clear. When I said increase in tension/hg I was referring to extender/pump. Meaning do I increase those as well as the intensity of the manuals or just all of the above?


This is what I did today in this order:

Rice bag

4 sets of 30 seconds of Bundles
Straight up to Center
Straight up to the Left
Straight up to the Right
Straight Down to the Center
Straight Down to Left
Straight Down to Right
Straight Out to the Center
Straight Out to Left
Straight Out to Right
Behind the Cheeks to Center
Behind the Cheeks to Left
Behind the Cheeks to Right

Extend at light tension (less than 1kg) for 6x45 min
Passive sleeve x1hr


Towards is the end of the day:

5x5x3
(5min slow squash j + 5min vac 3-5hg)x3

Double Ring for 45 minutes

Done

usa4tw said:

Thanks I am fairly conditioned from pe I have done for the last 4 years so today felt really easy.

Sorry my questions weren’t clear. When I said increase in tension/hg I was referring to extender/pump. Meaning do I increase those as well as the intensity of the manuals or just all of the above?


This is what I did today in this order:

Rice bag

4 sets of 30 seconds of Bundles
Straight up to Center
Straight up to the Left
Straight up to the Right
Straight Down to the Center
Straight Down to Left
Straight Down to Right
Straight Out to the Center
Straight Out to Left
Straight Out to Right
Behind the Cheeks to Center
Behind the Cheeks to Left
Behind the Cheeks to Right

Extend at light tension (less than 1kg) for 6x45 min
Passive sleeve x1hr


Towards is the end of the day:

5x5x3
(5min slow squash j + 5min vac 3-5hg)x3

Double Ring for 45 minutes

Done

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Rocking with that routine. I can see you have done your research

usa4tw said:

Thanks I am fairly conditioned from pe I have done for the last 4 years so today felt really easy.

Sorry my questions weren’t clear. When I said increase in tension/hg I was referring to extender/pump. Meaning do I increase those as well as the intensity of the manuals or just all of the above?

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For a veteran of 4 years, definitely! This is where you need to gauge how far you can push it, safely. Increase the intensity progressively, and slowly. Push it through the moderate range, not sure where you are right now, and also take notes on the upper intensity you can handle. Remember, NO PAIN. Just dull feelings every time. This is the intensity where you want to be at this leg of the journey. Always that dull feeling of achiness either be the extender or the pump.

The trick is to also tug and pull at specific angles. Not to sound gay-ish, but sit with your butt stick out in front of the chair, while resting you chest against the back rest. For me, I use a low back rest chair, and I lean my chest far back onto the back rest, and my butt sticks out far in front of the chair. When I employ a downward pull using either manual, extender loaded, or LengthMaster, there's an additional stress load deep in the pelvic region that hyper extend the ligaments, muscles, and tissues. It's very strange to have the same feeling for the extender (my JES extender) compared to the LengthMaster at this odd downward-backward angle. I used my JES extender with the spring settings at 2.2kg for just 20 minutes to test out. It's not as great at the LengthMaster at the first 5 minutes where I can employ additional traction force using dynamic traction loading.

usa4tw said:

This is what I did today in this order:

Rice bag

4 sets of 30 seconds of Bundles
Straight up to Center
Straight up to the Left
Straight up to the Right
Straight Down to the Center
Straight Down to Left
Straight Down to Right
Straight Out to the Center
Straight Out to Left
Straight Out to Right
Behind the Cheeks to Center
Behind the Cheeks to Left
Behind the Cheeks to Right

Extend at light tension (less than 1kg) for 6x45 min
Passive sleeve x1hr


Towards is the end of the day:

5x5x3
(5min slow squash j + 5min vac 3-5hg)x3

Double Ring for 45 minutes

Done

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Phew. Golden.

Thanks guys!

usa4tw said:

Thanks guys!

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