REDZULU2003
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You're doing it correctly, very methodical and precise
DutchAthletic’s ascension path to 10” BPEL
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@DutchAthletic92 How far? as much as possible. Therefore your length will dictate the distance. As long as both are separate enough from each other bu covering both halfs of your length, thats all you need.
I HIGHLY advise you to measure yourself today as part of that sunday experiment. Just out of curiosity measure your BPFSL today to see how much you retained form yesterday.
As you can see, as the literature states, less is more. All along, before we had this novel technology, NEVER made sense to me the increasingly high loads of weight. As always stated throughout the years, those Asian people who hang rocks from their dicks, pull cars, trucks, even airplanes, If applying more and more force for hanging or stretching was correct, they should have half a meter penises. It turns out, not a single one has a big dick. Some might say "well, we dont know that" The answer to that is, I can guarantee you any men in this planet that has a giant phallus will be know. Wether he wants it or not, a woman will speak, or a man, or himself. I bet most men will want to show what they have, and proudly. Well, with those Asians is not the case. Why? Because the approach was wrong all along. There is no science to back it up. Quite the opposite, there is plenty of science to the approach we are taking now.
If you read Tutt's research, he is currently experimenting with sophisticated radio frequency generators to induce heat in an even more precise exact manner. In his lab research while under every single proper piece of equipment, he concluded that there is no need for most to use no more than 2.5kg of weight. In your case, you are getting perfect strain from only 0.5kg which us phenomenal, and leave you plenty of room for the future. With these low weights, you will not suffer from blisters or any conditions caused by unproven brute force.
Many, including me, gained in the past by using sheer brute force. And while initially many tissues will give away growth, it is at the same time creating toughening of the tissues. In this case our enemy number one, the septum. It seems as if the septum is the single structure in our penises that really exist to stop the pull, the tug. And the more you pull it, the tougher it gets. Until now. ?
It’s unbelievable and incredible at the same time that I learned all the science stuff in school. LOL and now I am literally applying that theory in the real world. Who would have guessed ? For enlarging our dicks.
Not for constructing new machines or materials but to get a giant phallus. It’s awesome man.
My septum is very very tough under cold circumstances. But under therapeutic heat it is very stretchy. I think that’s because I quit all PE exercises for more than a year. I had a really long deconditioning break.
I am glad it only takes me 0.5 kg to get the desired strain. The waiting has paid off.
It’s currently 07:00 AM and I just measured. My pre-BPFSL is 192 mm. So that’s a bit more than sunday.
I will start my ultrasound therapy now.
That is excellent. You retained 4mm since yesterday. I experienced a similar result. Now, you wont see the same retention every day. Do not get discouraged. Some days you wont see difference. At that point adjust tension little by little and asses results. As I mention before, if you write down all your measurements, Pre BPFSL and Post BPFSL for each day you workout, a pattern and a curve will appear. And at the end of 6 weeks you will have the amazing end result. So do your thing each day, concentrate, do not fall for emotions, keep it down to literature. Focus and concentrate in the end of the Period in which you will have achieved the desired target.
Tuesday April 27th
it’s 08:30 AM and I just finished my ultrasound therapy.
This time I put my shaft over my left leg and it felt different. It’s like you have a preference for left side or right side. And my shaft is most comfortable and stretchier when it’s put over my right leg.
I also had trouble with the temperature sensor. It took 10 minutes to reach at least 40 degrees Celsius. And I stayed 10 minutes between 40-41degrees Celsius. But I felt I was cooking my dick already and sometimes I had sharp stinging pain from the heat. So I was afraid I’d exceed the therapeutic temperature range. I always break contact with shaft surface when that happens and wait a bit to heat it up again.
The sensor was still adjusting to my body temperature. And it didn’t gave proper temperature until after 10 mins. But when I put my dick over my right leg it will reach target temperature very fast. Within a few minutes.
My left side isn’t prefered at all. Lol. I also had problems with stretching that left side in the past. It’s hard to describe but stretching over my left leg is like my dick doesn’t want to be elongated. It’s like it’s protesting. But I gave the shaft good heating.
Pre-BPFSL: 192 mm
Post-BPFSL: 195 mm
weight: 500 gram
Strain: 1.53 %
So the strain is a bit less than sunday. I don’t know why. Maybe I heated up too much when I couldn’t get accurate temperature measurements during the first 10 mins of ultrasound heating.
I also don’t know when to measure the post-BPFSL. Do you do that immediately after the ultrasound therapy or is it also ok to do the measurement after you have cleaned up and stored everything away? Like after 10 minutes or so.
@Jackxxx
@DLD
@REDZULU2003
it’s 08:30 AM and I just finished my ultrasound therapy.
This time I put my shaft over my left leg and it felt different. It’s like you have a preference for left side or right side. And my shaft is most comfortable and stretchier when it’s put over my right leg.
I also had trouble with the temperature sensor. It took 10 minutes to reach at least 40 degrees Celsius. And I stayed 10 minutes between 40-41degrees Celsius. But I felt I was cooking my dick already and sometimes I had sharp stinging pain from the heat. So I was afraid I’d exceed the therapeutic temperature range. I always break contact with shaft surface when that happens and wait a bit to heat it up again.
The sensor was still adjusting to my body temperature. And it didn’t gave proper temperature until after 10 mins. But when I put my dick over my right leg it will reach target temperature very fast. Within a few minutes.
My left side isn’t prefered at all. Lol. I also had problems with stretching that left side in the past. It’s hard to describe but stretching over my left leg is like my dick doesn’t want to be elongated. It’s like it’s protesting. But I gave the shaft good heating.
Pre-BPFSL: 192 mm
Post-BPFSL: 195 mm
weight: 500 gram
Strain: 1.53 %
So the strain is a bit less than sunday. I don’t know why. Maybe I heated up too much when I couldn’t get accurate temperature measurements during the first 10 mins of ultrasound heating.
I also don’t know when to measure the post-BPFSL. Do you do that immediately after the ultrasound therapy or is it also ok to do the measurement after you have cleaned up and stored everything away? Like after 10 minutes or so.
@Jackxxx
@DLD
@REDZULU2003
Do not worry about the strain percentage variation, because you are gaining. And as you master your technique more and more, each workout gets more efficient and will yield better strain. Also, remember you are still using the 0.5kg. That is very little. Eventually if your Strain stall, you should increase tension by 100-200 grams at a time. This is when monitoring strain with a scale becomes very useful.
BPFSL you measure immediately as soon as you finish. You do your US, then you do the 10 minutes cool down stretched under the same tension, after those 10 minutes remove everything, clean your dick quickly and measure Post BPFSL. Then you can pick up, clean more, jerk off whatever the fuck you want. lol
BPFSL you measure immediately as soon as you finish. You do your US, then you do the 10 minutes cool down stretched under the same tension, after those 10 minutes remove everything, clean your dick quickly and measure Post BPFSL. Then you can pick up, clean more, jerk off whatever the fuck you want. lol
This is a very important point for everyone to understand. We should always be checking our bone-pressed, flaccid stretch to be sure you are seeing growth. This is the biggest indicator of growth and if you’re not seeing elongation be on your norm it means what you are doing is unfruitful. This is an awesome thing because it allows you to change things on the fly.
Wednesday April 28th
ultrasound hanging routine time: 06:45 AM
Pre-BPFSL: 196 mm
Post-BPFSL: 198 mm
Weight: 500 gram
Strain: 1.01 %
This time I had the same troubles as yesterday regarding heating up to target temperature of at least 40 degrees Celsius. I couldn’t get above 41 degrees.
I use a small thermometer sensor and I think I need to use two small sensors in order to measure it more accurately. It’s placed under the middle of the shaft and I want to put one more sensor for lower shaft and uppershaft region.
I cut off a piece of the blue sillisleeve that i’m using. I think it was too much because in the 10 mins relaxation phase my Silistretcher vaccuum cup slipped off and the weights felt down on the ground LOL.
You can really see when there’s not enough time spend in the optimal temperature range of 40-43 degrees Celsius. I think you need to be atleast for 10 minutes above 42 degrees.
I can feel it by the flexibility and post-BPFSL. The strain was not much and I bet it would be higher if I didn’t had the warming up problems.
I think there’s something wrong with how I measure the temperature or when I am warming up it doesn’t give accurate temperature measurements.
Or do the transducers need warming up time ?my settings ate always put them in “high”. For quicker warming up.
The warming up to target temperature of 40 degrees takes me 10-12 minutes. I don’t know if this is good or bad. I think bad because you need as much heat as quickly as possible to do the 20 mins shaft heating.
Also my post-BPFSL shrunk to 194 mm... I just measured at 3:48 PM in the afternoon.
I think this is due to my problem with low testosterone levels (200-300 ng/dL) and I am working on this issue but when I masturbated a couple of times in a row. As I did yesterday. I become completely exhausted and don’t have any motivation to do anything. Also got low dopamine levels as testosterone and dopamine are tightly connected. My memory is also affected.
I am gonna go on Nofap / semen retention to see if this will help. I don’t think I should be beating my dick so much. It’s not healthy. I need all strength and motivation to continue this ultrasound program.
I am not even interested in talking to women or dating women. I have to step up my game
Is it bad to get erections during the ultrasound therapy ? I’d argue you need a complete flaccid shaft for optimal heating ?
@REDZULU2003
@Jackxxx
@DLD
ultrasound hanging routine time: 06:45 AM
Pre-BPFSL: 196 mm
Post-BPFSL: 198 mm
Weight: 500 gram
Strain: 1.01 %
This time I had the same troubles as yesterday regarding heating up to target temperature of at least 40 degrees Celsius. I couldn’t get above 41 degrees.
I use a small thermometer sensor and I think I need to use two small sensors in order to measure it more accurately. It’s placed under the middle of the shaft and I want to put one more sensor for lower shaft and uppershaft region.
I cut off a piece of the blue sillisleeve that i’m using. I think it was too much because in the 10 mins relaxation phase my Silistretcher vaccuum cup slipped off and the weights felt down on the ground LOL.
You can really see when there’s not enough time spend in the optimal temperature range of 40-43 degrees Celsius. I think you need to be atleast for 10 minutes above 42 degrees.
I can feel it by the flexibility and post-BPFSL. The strain was not much and I bet it would be higher if I didn’t had the warming up problems.
I think there’s something wrong with how I measure the temperature or when I am warming up it doesn’t give accurate temperature measurements.
Or do the transducers need warming up time ?my settings ate always put them in “high”. For quicker warming up.
The warming up to target temperature of 40 degrees takes me 10-12 minutes. I don’t know if this is good or bad. I think bad because you need as much heat as quickly as possible to do the 20 mins shaft heating.
Also my post-BPFSL shrunk to 194 mm... I just measured at 3:48 PM in the afternoon.
I think this is due to my problem with low testosterone levels (200-300 ng/dL) and I am working on this issue but when I masturbated a couple of times in a row. As I did yesterday. I become completely exhausted and don’t have any motivation to do anything. Also got low dopamine levels as testosterone and dopamine are tightly connected. My memory is also affected.
I am gonna go on Nofap / semen retention to see if this will help. I don’t think I should be beating my dick so much. It’s not healthy. I need all strength and motivation to continue this ultrasound program.
I am not even interested in talking to women or dating women. I have to step up my game
Is it bad to get erections during the ultrasound therapy ? I’d argue you need a complete flaccid shaft for optimal heating ?
@REDZULU2003
@Jackxxx
@DLD
Dont worry about your strain, because you are gaining.
Remember your Pre BPFSL on day 1 was 188, today it was 196. You are almost 1 full centimeter up in just 3-4 days. No other routine will give you that gain. No other. Period.
As I said before, do not use emotion. Approach this from a scientific stand point. Your testosterone levels have absolutely nothing to do with this. And quite frankly, you wouldn't be whacking off twice a day if your test levels were a problem. You are just making guesses according to how you feel, but everything is perfectly fine. Is like when you have a bad headache and you go to google, you'll start reading, reading and reading to the point that one of the possibilities is brain cancer and you start believing it and convincing yourself and freaking out, when all it was is a fucking simple common headache.
To answer your question about erections during US, yes it is bad. Not because of hazard reasons, but because you are working strictly your septum. Nothing more. People sometimes get confused. You are targeting the limiting factor, the septum. And in order to single it out, your penis has to be completely flaccid. If its not, other structures such as tunica start taking some of the tension stress, and UltraSound for tunica has not been proven, researched yet.
Remember your Pre BPFSL on day 1 was 188, today it was 196. You are almost 1 full centimeter up in just 3-4 days. No other routine will give you that gain. No other. Period.
As I said before, do not use emotion. Approach this from a scientific stand point. Your testosterone levels have absolutely nothing to do with this. And quite frankly, you wouldn't be whacking off twice a day if your test levels were a problem. You are just making guesses according to how you feel, but everything is perfectly fine. Is like when you have a bad headache and you go to google, you'll start reading, reading and reading to the point that one of the possibilities is brain cancer and you start believing it and convincing yourself and freaking out, when all it was is a fucking simple common headache.
To answer your question about erections during US, yes it is bad. Not because of hazard reasons, but because you are working strictly your septum. Nothing more. People sometimes get confused. You are targeting the limiting factor, the septum. And in order to single it out, your penis has to be completely flaccid. If its not, other structures such as tunica start taking some of the tension stress, and UltraSound for tunica has not been proven, researched yet.
You are right. I must look at the data. And how little the strain might be. I am still gaining. Even if it’s one millimeter per session.
So the flaccid penis is a must. Isn’t the tunica also a limiting factor or is it only the septum? The tunica is the expansion sheet that determines girth right ? Which envelops the corpus cavernosum erectile chambers. And it connects in the glans with the septum which is located in the middle of the shaft above the corpus spongiosum.
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Also I don’t understand how one can have a BPFSL of 20 cm while BPEL is 18 cm... Like the BPEL should grow along with BPFSL right? Or can you grow BPFSL to 30-35 cm without any increasements of BPEL ?
If I continue on this path I might be a solid 254 mm BPFSL (10 inches) at the end of this year. But why does BPEL not grow simultaneously with BPFSL.
If I want to get to 10 inches BPEL, does that mean I have to work my way up to 1 foot of BPFSL? 300mm ?
That’s kinda hard to believe that BPEL won’t follow BPFSL.
What was that method you are working on with other guys on how to increase BPEL after you get to your BPFSL target size ?
Your goal is 1 foot, so you might have to work up to 350mm BPFSL?
Thursday April 29th
Pre-BPFSL: 198 mm
Post-BPFSL: 199 mm
Weight: 500 gram
Strain: 0.50%
I figured out my temperature problems. The sensor is a small rod with a length of 2 cm. And diameter of 2-3 mm. And when you put the sensor in the direction of the shaft so parallel to the shaft between leg and shaft. You don’t get accurate measurements.
So I rotated the sensor 90 degrees so it’s put overcross the shaft between leg and shaft and now I get good measurements. I reached 40 degrees Celsius within 3 minutes.
This time I could easily stay above 41 degrees and the last 5-10 minutes easily above 42 so I had to pay attention not to cross 43 degrees.
I thought I would get more strain because I was staying in higher temperature range 41.5-42.5 degrees. But I think you need to increase the weights a bit.
But for now, I will use 500 grams of weight until I get no strain anymore. And then increase it by 100 gram increments. Less is more.
I cannot wait until get to 10 inches BPFSL (254 mm). That will be a very big psychological resistance level. Even breaking out of 200 mm (8 inches) would be magical.
@Jackxxx
@DLD
@REDZULU2003
Pre-BPFSL: 198 mm
Post-BPFSL: 199 mm
Weight: 500 gram
Strain: 0.50%
I figured out my temperature problems. The sensor is a small rod with a length of 2 cm. And diameter of 2-3 mm. And when you put the sensor in the direction of the shaft so parallel to the shaft between leg and shaft. You don’t get accurate measurements.
So I rotated the sensor 90 degrees so it’s put overcross the shaft between leg and shaft and now I get good measurements. I reached 40 degrees Celsius within 3 minutes.
This time I could easily stay above 41 degrees and the last 5-10 minutes easily above 42 so I had to pay attention not to cross 43 degrees.
I thought I would get more strain because I was staying in higher temperature range 41.5-42.5 degrees. But I think you need to increase the weights a bit.
But for now, I will use 500 grams of weight until I get no strain anymore. And then increase it by 100 gram increments. Less is more.
I cannot wait until get to 10 inches BPFSL (254 mm). That will be a very big psychological resistance level. Even breaking out of 200 mm (8 inches) would be magical.
@Jackxxx
@DLD
@REDZULU2003
I made this from an empty kitchen paper roll.
I cut off a bit at the top to get it to exactly measure 254 mm. The magickal 10 inches.
This is standing on my desk and I go to sleep with it.
I am always watching this roll and imagining my goals.
It’s pure motivation and to see where i’m at right now.
This roll will guide me through the proces. Step by step. Small steps become big achievements.
I cannot wait to break through 200 mm BPFSL. But patience is key and I’m 2 days off. I will continue on sunday morning.
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I cut off a bit at the top to get it to exactly measure 254 mm. The magickal 10 inches.
This is standing on my desk and I go to sleep with it.
I am always watching this roll and imagining my goals.
It’s pure motivation and to see where i’m at right now.
This roll will guide me through the proces. Step by step. Small steps become big achievements.
I cannot wait to break through 200 mm BPFSL. But patience is key and I’m 2 days off. I will continue on sunday morning.
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- First, one thing that will help you understand things better, is to know that The Septum is part of the Tunica. The Septum is just the junction of the tunica that surrounds each chamber of the corpus cavernosum. Therefore, that junction, the septum, is like if you had a double layer tunica. Therefore if you pull it, which side will be more elastic and easier to expand. The single layer tunica or the double layer tunica? The single one will be easier.
- Now, the tunica determines the girth? Not completely. Girth and BPEL is mostly determined by your corpus cavernosum. You can have a giant tunica and a giant septum, but if you have small CC's, your BPEL and your girth will be small. In this scenario, only your BPFSL will be large. However, once your CC's grow, your gap between BPFSL and BPEL close. And the more your CC's grow, the more the gap close, to the point that if you continue to grow your CC's, they will find the dead end called septum. At that point, your penis has nowhere else to grow but sideways, and there is your girth. Because remember, on there sides you have the tunica, but in the center you have a double layer tunica (Septum).
- And this leads to your next question. How can you have 20cm of BPFSL while having 18cm of BPEL. Again, go back to the picture in your mind of this double layer tunica junction in the center of your penis running all along form the base to the top. Imagine you detach your penis from your body, and it has a valve at the base. You start pumping air through that valve. Slowly. You will see it inflate. It will keep growing, expanding, the CC's and tunica will fill up with air and you stop there. And you measure. 18cm. Why is that? because even though the septum can be stretched longer than that, that air pressure is not enough to express the full elasticity of that septum. Remember once again, that septum is a double layer tunica so it has its own resistance. If you wanted to fully express its length, you would need a higher internal pressure. In our case, blood. And even so, with that higher pressure the tendency will be for the tunica to slowly give up sideways (girth) rather than longways (length) because of the same tension of the septum.
And this is the big question. Does the BPEL ever give up by itself? We dont know that yet. Some guys have seen BPEL grow by itself after BPFSL with Ultrasound, other have seen nothing. However, nobody as far as I know has dedicated enough time to grow septum and septum alone to see what happens. I am committed to do that. I do not agree with "guess" or "belief", but my gut feeling based on the behavior of different tissues, is that at some point the other tissues should give up for BPEL. perhaps might be that some guys need a small gap for that, while others might need a bigger gap.
- Yes at that pace you can reach 10 inches by the end of the year, but remember tissues dont work that way. As an example, a bodybuilder can gain up to 20 pounds of muscle weight during his first year. At that pace, in 10 years he could gain 200 pounds of muscle. We know, that doesn't exist. Weight increase slow down due to different genetic mechanics. In this case is similar. You will start seeing a normal decrease in strain, as you increase tension, and that is why we have decided to limit the Periods to 6 weeks, take 8 weeks off and resume. And what you are doing about less tension is great. It will get the most out of your tissues.
It would be extremely useful for you to monitor strain with a scale. At this point, even though we call it strain percentage, once you start adding tension, you will be working on creep in reality, not on strain. Creep is also productive, but strain is considered to be superior.
That is great. It really makes a difference. The brain has tremendous power. If you never watched the movie "What the Bleep Do We Know", it will literally blow your mind.
I am concentrated the same way. I am at 24cm, 1.4cm away from the 10 inches. That is my short term goal once I start my next period, and of course after that get as much as I can from it to get closer and closer to the 30.48 cm (one foot)
That was a very good film to watch! It really shows you just how powerful our minds really are
Yes you are right. I was a bit confused with the terminology and definitions. And the translation to my own language.
I monitor strain with the MOS weightscale attached to the SilliStretcher. It displays the exact amount of grams (500) every session. So that’s good.
Shouldn’t we rename strain percentage into creep percentage ? Because when we are doing ultrasound hanging you get movement in the septum as in it’s elongating a little bit every session. And you calculate that elongation after every ultrasound session.
And strain stays the same because you aren’t adding weights to it. At least in my case, my strain stays the same because I only use 500 grams of weight.
In my case I am already working on creep with a constant amount of weight throughout the session.
Thanks for the clear explanation. So our tissues don’t behave linearly. Just like our muscles. It will become harder and harder to gain more BPFSL in the future which means increasing weights till 2.5 kg.
You mentioned someone has found out in a lab that we shouldn’t go higher than 2.5 kg. So if we don’t reach our goals of BPFSL with 2.5 kg. What happens next ? A very long decondition period of 6 months to 1 year ?
I am also curious to find out if my BPEL will follow my BPFSL if I go longer than 10 inches. I want to try it out LOL. Maybe I can reach 30.48 cm. That’s a great life goal. And for the sake of this community and science to really go beyond everything that has been tested out to this day.
We’re at the frontier of PE science and experimentation. It would be an honor to grow my dick to 1 foot length.
I am also dedicated to try that out. It would take a couple of years I think. With proper reconditioning.
You mentioned we need internal pressure of blood to grow the CC’s and it will have the tendency to grow more in girth because of the resistance of the septum itself.
Do you practice any kegels ? And would that be beneficial for increasing blood pressure? Or are we talking about controlled priapism with chemical PE setups in order to grow the CC’s
I read that with extreme strong pelvic floor muscles you can get extremely hard erections which you maintain throughout a fucking session. I heard those pornstar guys all practice kegels to ensure maximum pelvic floor muscle strength?
I am planning to do small hand towel lifts with my dick. Just like a regular weight training session but for aimed at dick erection strength / pelvic floor muscle strength . And work your way up until you can lift several pounds/kilo’s with your shaft lol.
Progressive overload is key here. With small increments.
You’ll get a bulging veiny extremely hard erection which women love so much. Hardness of your erection is also very important.
I see these guys on adult entertainment sets with a soft 10 inch dick trying to fuck a girl but the dick collapses and it looks painful like it’s gonna break or something lol.
So we would need to work heavily on girth after the ultrasound therapy sessions.
Slow Squash Jelqs with bathmates / pumping etc. A solid girth routine is needed to close that BPEL - BPFSL gap.
Also this ultrasound device could be perfect for warming up the shaft before doing girth work ? Like 10 minutes proper deep warming up and then doing the girth exercises.
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Yes in your case you could call it creep percentage, but the therapy is designed for strain. That is why hanging is not the ideal setup.I personally strictly replicated what it has been proven to work successfully. I dont like to add my own spices and seasonings to the recipe without any scientific or research foundation. True trial and error leads to proven techniques, but that also equals extra time, and time is the most expensive commodity of the universe.