+ 2"L + 1"G (1 year progress thread)

[MickeyDeese]

Been missing your posts,I'm scared of using vacuum strechers because of blisters and also how long you pump?

I have 3 different pump routines I use in no particular order. Just whatever I'm feeling that day. I've been pumping since August 2024 so I know exactly what my D can tolerate and the inner swell I'm looking for. Always between -8 and -12hg. I've gone as high as -25hg while wearing a sleeve and it just destroys EQ and causes skin damage. Anything over -15hg is pointless and dangerous. The sweet spot for great expansion and minimal edema is right around -10hg, but may take time to build up to it and then become comfortable. I used to dread going that high or using a tube without a silicone pad, have no problem with anything under -15hg and using zero pad.

1 - 16 minutes total. 4 minutes on, 2 minutes off, repeat 4 times. I got this one from a rat study which showed the optimal gains at this specific level.

2 - 20 minutes straight. Sometimes twice a day. This is endurance, gives phenomenal post girth expansion, but the last 5 to 10 minutes I'm usually squirming to release pressure. Would not recommend for beginners at all.

3 - Rapid Interval Pumping or a variation of it. Have a mechanical timed pump where you can preset routines. I will either do 15 seconds to -15hg then instant release, and set to repeat for 20 minutes. Watch out for edema on this as it is constantly pulling blood into your D. I use this one as prep for a marathon (3 to 6 hour) hang session as it just makes my D very flexible.

 

[MickeyDeese]

Been missing your posts,I'm scared of using vacuum strechers because of blisters and also how long you pump?

I've also been spending most of my time at the PharmaPE discord. Really helping to fine tune my supplement stack and I've been researching chemical + peptide PE. What I've learned, sorry to say, is that biological presets determine the maximum size of your D and past puberty all you can truly hope to achieve, with current non invasive non surgical science and medicine is the maximum expansion of your inner penile chambers. Once that is achieved growing past that as an adult is basically impossible. I'm trying to find a way to induce penile hyperplasia and hypertrophy in adults or at least push into the 110% area past normal expansion while accelerating healing. Most PE guys won't venture into this area as it is very theoretical and dangerous. I'm trying to be as safe as possible and avoid anything that messes with hormones and genes, which frankly speaking is extremely limiting in potential growth but also avoids systemic risks.

 

[MickeyDeese]

What type of vacuum hanger are you using and did you get on TRT ?

Brand names don't matter. They all do the same thing. I dont know what TRT is. I got the vacuum cups from Massive Novelties and EpicExtender. I only bought them there because I fell for the marketing and epic was the only place with XXXL cup sizes (which I use if I pump before hanging). Its really just a matter of preference where you get cups from.

What I do recommend is getting good sleeves. I've been using the same sleeves from FuckN Mint on Etsy for 6 months. Only had to replace one of them and trimmed the divots off another to avoid ripping twice.

The rest of my Franken-rig was bought from dollar store (parachord, S hooks) and Homedepot (swivel pulley and screws)

 

[MickeyDeese]

Huge girth Wrote me you can gain 2,5 Inches in length in a year is that realistic i wanna hear your opinion

I did 2 inches erect length in a year. Went from 6 1/2 to 8 1/2.

No, it is not realistic. Everyone is built differently. All I achieved was expanding near to my biological maximum. I didn't grow anything past that.

But it's good to know where my maximum is as a bench mark to see if any gains are actually made, what did I do to achieve them.

Lowest risk + biggest reward for the 1st year will be tension hanging w incremental weight increase between 1 to 5 lbs for length and pumping for girth (tube 1/4 to 1/2 larger than current girth).

 

[MickeyDeese]

Most of us here can confirm for those who just started on the PE journey. The tissues are not dense, and they are ready to be trained very quickly. If you're one of those, "I'll work real hard in 3 months, and if I don't see results, I'll just stop". It will take a disciplined and consistent routine approach daily to obtain what you get in a year. Don't expect the penis to go from 0 to 1in in 3 months, 6 months, or 9 months. You will see progressive gains, but it will take your dedication to get the gains. There is no taking shortcuts. There is no cutting corners. There is no "cheating" your ways to the gains.

And yes, I've gained over an inch after a year worth of discipline girth AND length routine. If you're chasing after girth, you can achieve it a bit faster than a combo of both.

Absofuckinglutely! Spent 3 to 6 hours on hanging and pumping every single day for an entire year to gain 2 inches.

 

[MickeyDeese]

@oldjust just read something I've never seen before posted at another forum and it looks very promising at first glance. I'm super busy until tomorrow so I can't look into it now.

Check out... LI-ESWT low intensity extra corporeal shockwave treatment.

 

[oldandlively]

@oldjust just read something I've never seen before posted at another forum and it looks very promising at first glance. I'm super busy until tomorrow so I can't look into it now.

Check out... LI-ESWT low intensity extra corporeal shockwave treatment.

It's the same as LiST, or low intensity soundwave/soundwave therapy. The same technology with different changes in name. The only upgrade to the technology is the frequency adjustments, ranging between 2Hz to as high as 48MHz.

The Li-ESWT covers a wider range of frequencies to cover specific needs, normally in the range of 2Hz to around 24Hz, but the at home and mid cost (below $1k) only have radial bursts where shockwaves and soundwaves scatter all under the skin in a pyramidal shape, or fan shape. Radial has been proven to be a bust.

Focused sound (acoustic) and shockwaves have way too high of a cost, ranging a minimum of $3.2k to as high as $10k. It's about specific adjustment of depths to concentrate through narrow beams, while delivering a specific energy load directly to that programmed depth. This is where it works and recorded to have application benefits, but it will take bit of clinical knowledge to apply the waveform properly. It doesn't take a genius, but it does take a bit of learning. Wrong adjust settings can cause tears quite fast, even at 8Hz.

 

[balão]

I want to do slow squash jelqing, how many times should I do it during the day to get good results and in how many sessions?

 

[MickeyDeese]

It's the same as LiST, or low intensity soundwave/soundwave therapy. The same technology with different changes in name. The only upgrade to the technology is the frequency adjustments, ranging between 2Hz to as high as 48MHz.

The Li-ESWT covers a wider range of frequencies to cover specific needs, normally in the range of 2Hz to around 24Hz, but the at home and mid cost (below $1k) only have radial bursts where shockwaves and soundwaves scatter all under the skin in a pyramidal shape, or fan shape. Radial has been proven to be a bust.

Focused sound (acoustic) and shockwaves have way too high of a cost, ranging a minimum of $3.2k to as high as $10k. It's about specific adjustment of depths to concentrate through narrow beams, while delivering a specific energy load directly to that programmed depth. This is where it works and recorded to have application benefits, but it will take bit of clinical knowledge to apply the waveform properly. It doesn't take a genius, but it does take a bit of learning. Wrong adjust settings can cause tears quite fast, even at 8Hz.

It causes narrow form shockwaves, so... similar to let's say for a relatable analogy like a water nozzle. Radial burst, similar to the mist setting does nothing, what does work in clinical settings is the jet stream which is far more narrow and only affects a small specific area and can easily cause cuts or tears in tissue if the intensity is too high.

I still don't understand what affect it would have but at $10,000 per device I dont know if I care that much. Although, I am theorizing a device in my mind like a cylinder which goes around the penis with hundreds of these things then you could target everything and just nuke your entire D at 4hz or what ever the safe range is for a couple seconds. Mad scientist style.

 

[oldandlively]

I want to do slow squash jelqing, how many times should I do it during the day to get good results and in how many sessions?

Slow Squash Jelqing is great for internal expansion, but doing by itself may not offer you the gains you want to get. Internal expansion is simply one level of training exercises. For example:

SSJ to expand internally.
Pumping to force internal expansion to get larger by using negative pressure.
Using other jelqing methods to further push the internal expansion, such as Horse Jelq, Power Squeeze (not letting the blood out for 20 seconds), C-Jelq, erect jelqing, or simply fast jelqing in a semi-erect state to initiate larger blood flow, is commonly considered an angiogenesis method.

It's all about how much you want to gain your girth using the manual method, or even introduce a 5x5x3 routine. Basic approach is 5 minutes of SSJ, followed by 5 minutes of pumping, and doing it for 3 sets. But for SSJ alone, you have to switch to a minimum of 10 sets of SSJ, holding the blood in an expansion state for around 30 to 60 seconds, and repeat.

 

[DLD]

this will be your main thing to pay attention to as you're progressing : "what is too much, and what is just below too much, growth lies there"

Very good this is a excellent post. Finding that sweet spot is what it's all about. Keep pushing on and i'm sure you will do well