Who is actually *using* the Siliscale to track their tension? How to fix tension loss?

Hey all,

The SiliScale is a MUST for shedding light on what we're actually doing when we use the SiliStretcher. Like so many things, successfully controlling for tension or not is likely a big difference between someone who gets great results and someone who gets none!

The first thing I wanted to peek at when I got my scale was how well I was maintaining the correct level of tension when I used the stretcher, and I've noticed that it can go either way. Some days, I check at the end of the session and the tension hasn't changed much. Other days it's all over! Today, for instance, I checked my tension less than an hour in, and I'd already lost 2/3lb of tension. (Starting at 3lbs, that's a 20% loss!) I reset the tension, and checked again at the end of my session to find that I'd lost a full pound of tension.

I use the velcro belt and wrap around my waist. I can think of the following reasons why tension would be lost:

1) The penis is 'relaxing' into the stretch, and actually lengthening during the session in response to the tension, so that being pulled the same distance actually means less tension in the penis.
2) The belt and/or strap are shifting or stretching under the tension.

Questions:

-Would the first issue even be a problem, since it means the penis is lengthening? If not, would it still be best to adjust after it lengthens to get back to the original tension?

-Has anybody noticed the second issue? Are there best practices to avoid that?

I noticed that the Phallosan uses a slightly different system, where the strap and belt are one and the same. Rather than attaching by velcro to a strap around the body held in place by friction, it actually anchors to the immovable penis with a plastic or rubber ring. That way there is no way it can shift under the tension. If the second issue is occurring for others as well, this might be something to include as an option for a SS3.0.

Let me know what you guys think!

Stress relaxation deformation is how extenders work to increase length. I would say it's more likely a combination of the two. Over time the belt is being pulled a little towards penis, decreasing stretch and over time the penis is relaxing into the stretch. Either case if possible it'd be nice to slightly increase tension every so often to bring about further elongation. The most important thing is that it's getting stretched though.

longstretch said:

Stress relaxation deformation is how extenders work to increase length. I would say it's more likely a combination of the two. Over time the belt is being pulled a little towards penis, decreasing stretch and over time the penis is relaxing into the stretch. Either case if possible it'd be nice to slightly increase tension every so often to bring about further elongation. The most important thing is that it's getting stretched though.

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That sets my mind at ease! I'll make a mark on my waist against the belt to check today whether the belt is moving against my skin.

UPDATE:

Today I measured tension at the end of my session, and I'd lost .85lb of tension. Today I ALSO used a marker to draw a little black dot on my own body next to a landmark on the belt. So I can confirm that the belt DID NOT move. So far so good!

On Monday I'll measure strap length at the beginning and end of the session to see if that's stretching out at all. If it isn't, then my loss of tension must be due to the penis stretching! And... well. That's a great reason to be losing tension.

Wow that's amazing, I was wondering what was at play so thank you for confirming! To bring stress relaxation into effect after 5 to 10 min increase tension a little more. Keep that up for like 20 to 30 min then ride it out for as long as possible. Keep in mind current condition level and increase in tension usually equates to reduced time able to comfortably wear. I think I saw a study and seen anecdotal evidence it'll only stress relax so far.

I really can't wait for the high tension strap that will hopefully be easier to adjust. Right now to keep the slider from sliding and releasing tension I pin a safety pin through strap..

Brawn Johnson said:

UPDATE:

Today I measured tension at the end of my session, and I'd lost .85lb of tension. Today I ALSO used a marker to draw a little black dot on my own body next to a landmark on the belt. So I can confirm that the belt DID NOT move. So far so good!

On Monday I'll measure strap length at the beginning and end of the session to see if that's stretching out at all. If it isn't, then my loss of tension must be due to the penis stretching! And... well. That's a great reason to be losing tension.

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Good stuff my Brother!

longstretch said:

I really can't wait for the high tension strap that will hopefully be easier to adjust. Right now to keep the slider from sliding and releasing tension I pin a safety pin through strap..

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Holy smokes, longstretch! I tried your safety pin idea today and I didn't end up getting my after-measurement of strap length... because I had to emergency bail again! TOO MUCH STRETCH AAAAAAHH!

So... I'm pretty sure I was getting tension loss because the buckle slides, and your safety pin idea fixes that. Tomorrow I'll drop back down to 3lbs tension (I had changed to 4lbs today, per my schedule) and just confirm that with measurements.

Hahaa yes please be careful, that goes for anyone following my advice lol. Take before and after BPSFL measurements too please. The safety pin should eliminate the slider moving to be blamed.

I've been continuing to check tension levels throughout the SS session, and even with the strap pinned down to keep buckle from sliding I'm still getting a significant tension loss (.5lb - 1lb) early in the session. Typically, if I adjust at that point back to my original tension, it keeps there for the rest of the session.

Given that the tension loss tends to occur early in the session and then stop, I'm inclined to think this really is just the result of early initial lengthening in the flaccid penis. (I still haven't measured BPSFL before and after the session to confirm this, will do soon). At the same time, I wonder about the .5lb range of tension loss. Does this mean there is another variable at play?

Yet another thing I've become aware of is how much of a difference your body pose makes. Try turning on the SiliScale and just shifting your torso around, and you'll see how even leaning to the side can push your hips out and increase or decrease tension. Moving forward I'll do my best to measure tension from exactly the same posture each time.

Onward and upward!

Okay, I've discovered TWO new variables.

The first variable is the scale itself. After I applied the SiliStretcher today, I took about 10 measurements one after the other with no time in between them. The measurements ranged from 3.18lb to 3.4lb. So the SiliScale itself appears to have a roughly .2lb margin of error. I never thought of that before, but that may account for (or may have covered up) some of the tension "losses" I've been seeing. Going forward, it's important for SIliscale users to measure a few times in a row, and look to the average of those measurements.

The only other solution is probably to get higher quality hardware, and that probably can't happen without increasing the price point of the scale. Getting the average is probably a good enough fix, and as tension levels increase, a .2lb margin of error matters less and less anyway.

The second variable is the path of the strap around your hips/waist, and this one actually affects the tension level, not just your perception of it.

Today I measured the strap length at the start of my session at 9" from outside of buckle to end of velcro, measured along the top of the strap. Halfway through the session, I took the same measurement at 8", and used the SiliScale to discover I'd lost about .8lb of tension.

So the strap actually shortened... AND tension decreased. This happened because the strap had ridden up around my waist to travel over my hip bone on a shorter path than I'd originally set going around the hip bone more in line with the belt. (It's like a plane that flies over the Arctic to go around the 3D globe rather than along the straight line we imagine when we look at a 2D map).

To control for this variable, I'm planning on intentionally pulling the strap over a sort of 'notch' in my hip bone from now on so that it catches there. The strap should stay along the same path that way. Controlling for this might depend on the unique shape of your own individual body.

@Lightning interesting

There are many variables that will account for a slight change of tension. If you hang dead weight with all metal hardware, you will get exact measurements every time. If you add elastic, straps, penis tissue, sleeves, position, etc the measurements will slightly vary with this scale or anything else.

Lightning said:

There are many variables that will account for a slight change of tension. If you hang dead weight with all metal hardware, you will get exact measurements every time. If you add elastic, straps, penis tissue, sleeves, position, etc the measurements will slightly vary with this scale or anything else.

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Thank you! All these things need to be taken into consideration but when they are taking into consideration the weight will be relative to the way you are using it.