Possibility of WW3?

Just like to know your opinion for those interested in what is going on. In the last few weeks I have been thinking that all this tension may escalate into a World War.

Those who have read PNAC already know that Iraq and Afganistan were to be first then Iran and Syria then North Korea and finally a conflict with China. Now if these people are truly sticking to the plan of this document then they are progressing nicely. If they really plan on doing this however they will need some sort of a draft.

Here are some news links that I have found that make this document seem more real by the sentence.

Iran and Syria unite

China's Military

North Korea threat

Syria vs Israel

Yeah, things are going real nicely for those crazy fucks. They all are or at one point were in positions to make the plan follow accordingly.

Some of the plans they come up with at Bilderberg meetings and such one would almost think they could tell the future. The truth of it is that they are creating the future as they have planned. Exact predictions down to the exact day and they make it happen like always. At a Bilderberg meeting it was said that the US would not invade Iraq until in the March of 2003. This was said shortly after Bush announced to the public the WOMD concern.

Same people attending Bilderberg meetings have been interbreeding and keeping themselves at the top for hundreds of years. If you know you are and always will be in control of the masses how hard would it be to say something is going to happen 100 or 1000 years from now and not make it happen to the day that you said it would...

Concerning a WW, China is the only country I worry about. It would be a very long fight with both country's resources literally depleted with tremendous loss on both sides. It would be like fighting someone who's your equal....you'd just end up shaking hands at the end. IMO though...if their army could make it here to the states, they would march right over us all the way to Washington. They just have so many more units than we do. Regarding N. Korea...if they do anything, I think China would fucking waste them instantly, just because they can and they're so close. Someone told me a while back that 1 out 5 people in the world is Chinese; I believe it. This is my opinion. :cool:

I'll make it brief.
WW3 isnt a possibility, its a case of WHEN.
It WILL happen, and I think it will be in the next 10-20 years.

The Artist said:

Concerning a WW, China is the only country I worry about. It would be a very long fight with both country's resources literally depleted with tremendous loss on both sides. It would be like fighting someone who's your equal....you'd just end up shaking hands at the end. IMO though...if their army could make it here to the states, they would march right over us all the way to Washington. They just have so many more units than we do. Regarding N. Korea...if they do anything, I think China would fucking waste them instantly, just because they can and they're so close. Someone told me a while back that 1 out 5 people in the world is Chinese; I believe it. This is my opinion. :cool:

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I would HATE to see a war with China or the east in general, us Brits regard China as a valued freind. They provide very good service in the UK when they come and live here. I have good Chinese freinds and I cant see us fighting them.

"I would HATE to see a war with China or the east in general, us Brits regard China as a valued freind. They provide very good service in the UK when they come and live here. I have good Chinese freinds and I cant see us fighting them."

I totally agree with you Red. I live in California, the state with the highest Asian American concentration in the US, and I can't possibly imagine having to go to war against a nation where friends and family and myself immigrated from just a decade ago.

But on the other hand, I am an American, I am a patriot, and I am a soldier. If I have to fight, the welfare of the nation comes first. I'm just not gonna like it.

As long as the big financial money types have interest in foriegn money markets, there will always be a possibility of war. That's all wars are about. Claiming new territory in the name of money. That's what it ALL boils down to. Thats the reason we send our sons and daughters off to fight and die on foreign soil. I'll never send my child off to die somewhere else for the sake of making money for our country sorry. You can think what you want, but that's what it's about. It's never been about "defending America". It's always been about MONEY. We dont NEED foriegn oil. We have here on our own soil...for example.

Also I forgot....RELIGION is WAR.

kausion_420 said:

Some of the plans they come up with at Bilderberg meetings and such one would almost think they could tell the future. The truth of it is that they are creating the future as they have planned. Exact predictions down to the exact day and they make it happen like always. At a Bilderberg meeting it was said that the US would not invade Iraq until in the March of 2003. This was said shortly after Bush announced to the public the WOMD concern.

Same people attending Bilderberg meetings have been interbreeding and keeping themselves at the top for hundreds of years. If you know you are and always will be in control of the masses how hard would it be to say something is going to happen 100 or 1000 years from now and not make it happen to the day that you said it would...

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Maybe they are all lizards.

stillwantmore said:

As long as the big financial money types have interest in foriegn money markets, there will always be a possibility of war. That's all wars are about. Claiming new territory in the name of money. That's what it ALL boils down to. Thats the reason we send our sons and daughters off to fight and die on foreign soil. I'll never send my child off to die somewhere else for the sake of making money for our country sorry. You can think what you want, but that's what it's about. It's never been about "defending America". It's always been about MONEY. We dont NEED foriegn oil. We have here on our own soil...for example.

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You're right. And you having served your country I comend and respect that to the utmost degree. I really feel for my family members (dead and alive) when there have been a few times when war or an invasion or air strike occurred and all the reasons were predicated on falsehoods, lies, and half truths. It is just sickening how the most powerful somehow continually find a way to keep the masses without power or a means to obtain power down. I look at the latin, south, and central american countries over the last 50 plus years and see how many times land reform has been thwarted in the name of money and power. The millions of impoverished people there will never see a day where their children have the chance at a much better life than they. Look at the guerrillas there, what are they fighting for? What have they been fighting for? There own land and way of life. But what do many other countries the U.S. for instance call these people? Communists in the 50's 60's and 70s throughout the cold war and now the common thought of them harkens the word terrorists. If even some land reform were in place throughout those countries for a prolonged period of time who knows what the countrymen there would become. But it cannot be allowed. Places like venezuela and colombia there are rooted interests there. Venezuela is our 3rd largest supplier of oil. Propaganda from the wealthiest families there hate the land reform Hugo Chavez stands for and this propoganda is probably going to get him killed. Those same wealthy families own every major news television and print medium in the country. I don't know how he's lasted this long. He's been elected democratically in a landslide more than once, yet he'll most likely meet the fate of similar leaders there for all too familiar reasons. "The war on drugs...the war on terror...we need to spread democracy." So in all the falsehoods, half truths, and lies lie the real reasons which most of us are aware of, but in the end nothing good is coming out of any of this. How much karma is coming this country's way? As long as we (the whole world) are all paranoid about national security and trying to keep up our defense and military budgets so as to keep up with the rest of the world for protection just in case the other guy uses it on us we will end up running in circles. This empire game the United States has been playing for a while in times with unstable countries like North Korea with dictatorship and Iran with its unjustifiable ways of well I wouldn't want to live there...I'd end up in jail for life for suspicion...there isn't any room for error. Invading countries and threatening others with the same thing and not really dispelling any curiosities from allies/former allies of continuing on the same path isn't the way to go either. An overly aggressive stance on an entire region of the world is a means of another World War. Factor in the other countries like Venezuela, Colombia, North Korea, all with people who need change and time to develop, but do not really have it...how many countries would fight against the U.S.? I'd think enough eventually and with nuclear weapons there is no room for error, which has been realized since the beginning of the cold war. Yet it doesn't seem this tid bit of information ever really registered in the U.S. I'm wondering if the Middle East is the U.S.'s Carthage.

And for another members comments on North Korea. While not everyone there is starving...(just those who oppose his all mighty's governing are) that country has had plenty of sanctions against it...some which have been overlooked through the years, but the main reason they have spent great efforts in a nuclear weapons program is to basically barter for money so as to sustain itself. I'm not sure if that is what the ultimate plan of action is for the U.S. or not in waiting for North Korea to just collapse completely and wait for a great rebellion or what. Either way that country has enough people that could use aid in the form of food and medicine. But I don't get N. Korea. I don't get the Sudan, Niger, or or any other country that absolutely needs military help or at least some form of intervention. If all those countries had oil for us I'm sure something would be done.

Why can't negotiations involve "remember that time I actually helped your country out and I never screwed you ever and made sure no one else did either because I helped them and then they helped me...and remember that one time"...instead it's more like "look I've got a fucking missile the size of your country so I'd just do what we say." I'm all for democracy as opposed to theocracy and dictatorships and the likes but I don't see how anyone can expect what goes around not to come around after killing hundreds of thousands of people over a few years and millions over decades. All life does end in this world. I think everyone with great power and influence is helping THE END get here a little faster.

The Artist said:

Someone told me a while back that 1 out 5 people in the world is Chinese; I believe it.

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1 out of 5 people are Asian. This includes everyone from China, Japan, Taiwan, Korea, Vietnam, The Phillipines etc..

A World War? I dont think it would be much of a world war. I see articles about Syria vs Israel, China Vs US and so on. I think this "new" world war would be about fighting invisible enemies (terrorist) rather than countries. These country matchups are so unfair it is funny.

Israel Vs Syria - Pathetic matchup. This is like matching up the New York Yankees (Israel) with the Tampa Bay Devil Rays (Syria) in a 7 game playoff.

China Vs US - An overrated matchup. China may be a "Power" but they sure as hell aint no "MEGA POWER". Chinas Cold War military equipment and technology make this matchup laughable. Chinas navy couldnt cross Pacific Ocean without getting wiped off the face of the earth.

THE CHINA THREAT - One word "Overrated". Sure they have alot of people but that is an easy thing to solve in the eyes of military tactics. Say for example the U.S was at war with China, Fist off when it comes to military equipment & technology china is at least 50 years behind the US. Inferior Chinese Navy and Airforce would result in the Chinese army becoming landlocked and surrounded. Airstriking key chinese infrastructure(Water Treatment, Power, Dams (if US was evil)) would effectively destroy the country without having to step foot on their soil. Janes Defence weekly did a hypothetical scenario of this exact issue, their prediction was that the U.S could subdue all Chinese military within two months (Taking over the entire country is a whole different scenario).