Nlp

I have visited a few sites about this, Neuro linguistic programming....

Can anyone tell me what its about and if it actually REALLY works

And if its actually life changing like a 2" gain

A gain in height or dick size?

From what i understand about NLP it will not induce physical changes, it will induce lifestyle changes which may correspond with physical changes. Yes it really works, but like many things of this sort, the extent of effectiveness is most likely shorter than what most people have in mind.

Oh,

I thought NLP was using tricks and techniques to communicate with people better and control them and such :D

Vlad, it is that too. NLP is many things, but generally, a change on the inside will eventually lead to a change on the outside. I haven't dabbled too much in it, but I have noticed that I unconciously use mirroring when I'm talking with people.

I'm the same way, people always seem to do what I do....kind of strange...I just have that kind of effect on people....I'm mesmerizing .... NLP is cool, but it's unethical. If you use it on other people it's manipulation and that is unethical. It's a cool process though, but it takes a huge amount of work to be sufficient in. I dabbled a little bit, but I found it to be very uncomfortable, it ran against my natural personality, which from what I understand from a guy I e-mailed about it, is fine without NLP anyway. Check it out if you want, may be helpful for mental restructuring, setting new frames....

millionman said:

I'm the same way, people always seem to do what I do....kind of strange...I just have that kind of effect on people....I'm mesmerizing .... NLP is cool, but it's unethical. If you use it on other people it's manipulation and that is unethical. It's a cool process though, but it takes a huge amount of work to be sufficient in. I dabbled a little bit, but I found it to be very uncomfortable, it ran against my natural personality, which from what I understand from a guy I e-mailed about it, is fine without NLP anyway. Check it out if you want, may be helpful for mental restructuring, setting new frames....

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So you are saying that this NLP works so well that it can possibly be unethical???

Thats fucking awesome

Give me a possible scenario, or 4 or 5

How do you mean it runs against your natural personality....I saw a clip the other day of a guy teaching NLP to a roomfull and he had the personality of a Beachball.....
I sorta gave up after seeing that since I thought he must be trying to sway me in some way :D but it aint working

But what you say millionman, has promises
Please explain

Hmm, if NLP is considered unethical, then seduction and being a salesman is unethical as well.

BDS said:

but I have noticed that I unconciously use mirroring when I'm talking with people.

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You mean try to look like them?? :D

VladtheImpaler said:

You mean try to look like them?? :D

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LOL, no man. You mirror their body language. =)

Well, I've been a salesman and yes it is unethical if you're trying to sell something they don't need. If someone comes into a store asking for a pair of jeans and you say how do you like this shoe??? That does not sit well with me, no matter how it's cut it's not cool to suade someone to buy something they don't need. IMHO saling stuff is easy, but it's only easy if it's something that can help and provides tangible use. Clothes are useful, but having $200 jeans and trying to sell shirts and shoes etc to go with those jeans is re-freakingdicuolous. It just doesn't sit well with me. Feels like you're pushy and trying to suade someone.

I've seen some videos of NLP in action, and depending on how it's done it can be amazing to watch, but at the same time it can look too unreal. Remember they are talking about how to market and create a thought process within another individual. It's similar to hypnotism, in most situations you attempt to pick up on "key" words and infiltrate the psyche through those words, and by getting them into relaxed positions by mirroring them etc. It's a manipulation. I once had a friend tell me that in every conversation there are ideas being bought and sold. It's very true, but I prefer to speak honestly and approach life with no selfishness in any interaction that I have, simply because I am satisfied in everything that I've been given by the Lord. I want to give of myself wholly and completely without getting anything in return. That's a huge reason why selling does not sit well with me, there's no benefit in it for the person unless it can leave a lasting impression on their life. The things that people buy are temporary enjoyment and does not leave a lasting impression, and it's not something I chose to partake of any longer.

Yeah, my natural personlaity is really outgoing and friendly, and I just talk. I don't like being confined to certain things to say or not to say. Going with the flow is what I'm all about. NLP can be very very influential with certain types of people. There's seduction info from a guy named Ross Jeffries, and his stuff does well for the "average" guy, but it takes a huge amount of work and money to get good at. Check it out if you want, look him up on google, I think his site is speedseduction.com, but look him up and his site will come up.

Thank you for explaining what you meant, Millionman.

But I'd like to point out is that NLP is all about suggestions. Same goes with hypnosis.. You can't force anyone to do something that goes against their nature, thus all hypnosis is self-hypnosis. The decision isn't made by the hypnotiser/salesman or seducer. =)

I've seen the Ross Jeffries stuff, not really my cup of tea though.. I wouldn't say the things he said. I personally like David DeAngelos "Cocky and funny" stuff better. But like you, I tend to go with the flow as well. =)

Yeah, David D's stuff is good, but at the same time seems to take the soul of the man and woman out of the equation. Where does the feelings and emotions come in??? I've read his book and a bunch of his newsletters and he's all about the hook-up, and achieving that is his entire directive. I just seem to do better when I am just me, which is really c & F anyway, but when I was trying David's stuff it felt forced and unnatural. I do like the fact that he calls out the wusses, and says look at how you're acting and only you can fix it. Women are not as visual as men, so they are not as inclined to respond to an attractive man in the same sense we respond to the attractive woman. Men should have a personality, know who they are, stand for what they believe in, and have standards about themselves. It's extremely important to know who you are ultimately in God's sight, it makes life much less demanding and less tresfful, cause you don't worry about what other folks think. I've gotten to be so much more comfortable once I realized where I was wrong, especially with women, and it's been a lot of fun just meeting new people and not caring "ohhhh what do they think, o rhow do they feel about me". I have to many girls who are attractive and that I spend time with, but they are just friends, on my terms. Of all the women I've met there were maybe two that I would have watned to spend time with, but I choose not to simply because I'm waiting on God's time. My reccomendation to anyone about NLP or even David D's stuff, just be you, use their words, but just be you.