Wrapping Help!

[NotSoSlimJim]

2.) Wrapping with the LengthMaster seems absurd as well. I can not get a great stretch with my flaccid as it doesn’t stretch to far and holds a lot of blood so not a huge stretch and no way can I keep my one hand grasping the glands to keep it extended while I wrap with a 7ft long ace bandage . This was my first attempt so I am remaining calm as I’ve read wrapping is a learning process. Do I not stretch my flaccid when wrapping ? The UJW is super long, it’s almost impractical. The Theraband does nothing as it just wrinkles immediately and can’t wrap it with one hand. I tried the jacked up SiliSleeve alone and that just pulled my skin through the sleeve . All my attempted wraps pulled the skin through the wrapas if it was surpassing my glands. Like pulling the skin over the glands in a turtle effect. The only thing holding my cock in was the tightness of the device which was squashing my girth. I feel a little upset, minimal flaccid stretch with difficult holding that stretch with one hand and wrapping with decent girth makes this seem like I’m fucked. I’m not going to give up, just venting. Need to figure this wrapsituation out ASAP so I can actually use the device as intended. And is there a specific direction for the chamber to attach to the power assist ? Should I cut the Ace bandage . The first wrap I’ll try tomorrow is athletic tape then ace bandage then the black adhesive tape. Please help!! Thx.

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Wrapping attempt today:

1.) jacked up SiliSleev that is folded right before glands to prevent turtling, even though it still ended up turtling—>black grip tape from MoS = FAIL (skin gets pulled over glands and pinches glands

2.) sports prewrap—>UJW that came with LM—>black grip tape from MOS = FAIL (same outcome as #1)

3.) sports prewrap—>black grip tape = FAIL (same outcome as #1)

***I am having a super difficult time holding my SFL and wrapping as my SFL doesn’t feel like it stretches that far from my body.***

Can I cut the yellow theraband? How do I know for sure the prewrap and black grip don’t have any wrinkles?? This is so enraging I can’t even properly use the fucking device.

 

[philevan]

I personally don't use TheraBand ever. It can stick to herself, most of the time it doesn't, in my experience there have been is it worth it. There is a whole forum on wrapping. But feel free to cut the Ace bandage so you're enough thickness to strap in the LM to get a strong enough grip. No need to make it very long, just long enough so the LM can grip hard enough. The strength of the LM tightness is dictated by how intense you are pulling or how much weight you're hanging.

If you are turtling using a sillisleeve then odds are the silly sleeve is it the right diameter. There's generally only two to choose from, I use both sizes, from 3/4 inch to 7/8 to 1 in, I tried them all.

Now with my ADS what helped me tremendously the biggest breakthrough I had, was to use two 1-in sleeves over each other while strapping in the vacuum. With this I can hang 20 lb easily. If I'm going for a lighter stretch I just use a 1-in sleeve with light tension. Don't fret man this is a learning process, wrapping is one of the most difficult things in PE, I still have problems with it after the months of me doing it myself. And I still just injured myself not long ago. I personally love love love sports wrap because that alleviates pressure at the tip of the head which is my problem with the intensity I use. But I just use sports wrap and ace bandage for LM. For vacuum hanging I use two 1-in diameter sleeves over each other sometimes wearing a penis cap too and I'm good to go.

 

[philevan]

And you do stretch flaccid while applying the bandage. It's a pretty simple thing once you get it, but it is a process of course as you said. Stretch it out flaccid and with the other hand start wrapping and you still can maybe use the hand holding the penis to secure the wrap as you continue the process. Again, you don't have to use the whole thing, it depends how big you are, and how much to use to make sure the LM is getting a tight enough secure fit. No need to go overboard with wrapping, to use just tons of it makes the process more arduous.

 

[DLD]

There are many different ways to wrap and what’s most important in every way is to have a wrap that has no wrinkles or creases as this can make 5 pounds feel like 100 pounds in pain and pinching. With a good Wrap you should be able to handle a very great deal of weight. If you go to the wrapping forum there are many different methods there you might want to try.

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Thanks for the feedback. I may cut the ACE bandage in half so I have two of them and that may be the way to master the video example of prewrap—>ace—>grip tape. I’m hoping continued practice at simply wrapping will help me improve the above layers, like the video, and then it will just click with the LengthMaster. How do I actually secure my FSL? I am wrapping but it just goes back to its regular flaccid length.

 

[DLD]

Thanks for the feedback. I may cut the ACE bandage in half so I have two of them and that may be the way to master the video example of prewrap—>ace—>grip tape. I’m hoping continued practice at simply wrapping will help me improve the above layers, like the video, and then it will just click with the LengthMaster. How do I actually secure my FSL? I am wrapping but it just goes back to its regular flaccid length.

You don’t need to wrap at your longest flaccid stretch just wrap flaccid and strap in regularly.

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Nice!! Thx DLD, that was my biggest annoyance. Even though I still haven’t gotten the LM to work yet, I just need to continue improving on the wrap and then I’ll fell that fantastic stretch I’ve been waiting for. I plan on using it with the original beginner routine you used to gain 2”. Im going to commit religiously.

 

[DLD]

I’m glad I put your mind at rest. A 2 inch gain only requires motivation and belief. If you believe you can achieve it and you’re motivated to do this work every day you will get 2 inches or more. I completely dedicated my first six months to gain 4 inches LOL unfortunately I only gained 2 inches LOL.

 

[TopGainer]

2.) Wrapping with the LengthMaster seems absurd as well. I can not get a great stretch with my flaccid as it doesn’t stretch to far and holds a lot of blood so not a huge stretch and no way can I keep my one hand grasping the glands to keep it extended while I wrap with a 7ft long ace bandage . This was my first attempt so I am remaining calm as I’ve read wrapping is a learning process. Do I not stretch my flaccid when wrapping ? The UJW is super long, it’s almost impractical. The Theraband does nothing as it just wrinkles immediately and can’t wrap it with one hand. I tried the jacked up SiliSleeve alone and that just pulled my skin through the sleeve . All my attempted wraps pulled the skin through the wrapas if it was surpassing my glands. Like pulling the skin over the glands in a turtle effect. The only thing holding my cock in was the tightness of the device which was squashing my girth. I feel a little upset, minimal flaccid stretch with difficult holding that stretch with one hand and wrapping with decent girth makes this seem like I’m fucked. I’m not going to give up, just venting. Need to figure this wrapsituation out ASAP so I can actually use the device as intended. And is there a specific direction for the chamber to attach to the power assist ? Should I cut the Ace bandage . The first wrap I’ll try tomorrow is athletic tape then ace bandage then the black adhesive tape. Please help!! Thx.

So the turtle effect when your stretching in my opinion will never go away... it’s something that will always happen no matter what... you just gotta live with it. Trust me when I say this, I been using it for a year, it’s a good device, but your skin is always going to Tuttle over your glans. If someone has used it without it turtling over their glans please post a pic or video lol. That being said, they way I wrap is, I use a duro sleeve cut 3.5 inches and put it two inches behind my glans, I then wrap 16 inches of the ace bandage, even tho you turtle, keep stretching. You’ll get a decent stretch. I was hoping someone would be able to guide me on how to wrap properly as I’ve tried many different ways.

 

[DLD]

So the turtle effect when your stretching in my opinion will never go away... it’s something that will always happen no matter what... you just gotta live with it. Trust me when I say this, I been using it for a year, it’s a good device, but your skin is always going to Tuttle over your glans. If someone has used it without it turtling over their glans please post a pic or video LOL. That being said, they way I wrap is, I use a duro sleeve cut 3.5 inches and put it two inches behind my glans, I then wrap 16 inches of the ace bandage, even tho you turtle, keep stretching. You’ll get a decent stretch. I was hoping someone would be able to guide me on how to wrap properly as I’ve tried many different ways.

My body still reacts by shrinkage if I train. It’s a natural aspect of the body trying to protect itself. When the penis is not in use it shrinks so it does not get damaged. And this is the whole reason we keep ourselves elongated after we stretch to heal in a elongated position

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Wrap Attempt Today: FAIL

**putting force on length master pinches glands. Sports prewrap—>sports grip wrap (MOS black)...will try cutting ace badge and putting in between those two tomorrow. Remaining positive.

 

[philevan]

Wrap Attempt Today: FAIL

**putting force on length master pinches glands. Sports prewrap—>sports grip wrap (MOS black)...will try cutting ace badge and putting in between those two tomorrow. Remaining positive.

I personally don't ever use grip wrap. I just use sports wrap and ace bandage. For my LM usage some of the LM is covering the head. If I put my LM entirely beneath my head even with my blood pushed out it hurts way too much. But this way it's bearable. Just keep at it keep trying. Thousands of people use the LM and love it. You'll find your way! Another thing is don't over tighten. The tightness of your LM dictates how much intensity you're using. Start slower, you don't have to go full bore with the pulling. So don't over tighten

 

[TopGainer]

My body still reacts by shrinkage if I train. It’s a natural aspect of the body trying to protect itself. When the penis is not in use it shrinks so it does not get damaged. And this is the whole reason we keep ourselves elongated after we stretch to heal in a elongated position

What we mean by turtling is, when we have the LM attached and we push the LM away from our body, the length master stretches our sling over our glans making it seem as if we are turtling

 

[DLD]

Sports wrap is that the rough ace bandage? If so stop using that, that’s what your problem is. Use the fabric ace bandage

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Today’s Attempts: ALL FAIL...tension applied to skin forcing it over glands leading to pinching of glands.

Attempts:
1.)prewrap—> ace (from LM package cut in half)—> MOS black grip tape
2.)prewrap—>ace—>silisleve( this was just absurd trying to even get over the ace). Totally laughable and dismal fail.
3.)prewrap—>MOS black grip tape (let’s try minimal wrap, barebones...NOPE EPIC FAIL)

I have officially burned through one black grip tape and a decent amount of prewrap just failing over and over, When I’m in the device I can tell the magic that lies beyond the pinching...Push a little and then crazy pain from pinching and wrap all fucked up...the wrapping key is what I need to unlock this amazing length routine destroyer. I literally did the newbie routine twice today MANUALLY...the soreness of forearms and wrists while staring at the beauty that is the LM can make a true PEer cry.

Trying to remain light hearted but still annoyed.

PS my prewrap is improving in terms of minimizing wrinkles. And DLD, the prewrap is the $4 CVS thin stuff, the grip tape is from you and so is the Ace, came with the LM I cut evenly in two. Ill be trying again tomorrow.

 

[DLD]

Today’s Attempts: ALL FAIL...tension applied to skin forcing it over glands leading to pinching of glands.

Attempts:
1.)prewrap—> ace (from LM package cut in half)—> MOS black grip tape
2.)prewrap—>ace—>silisleve( this was just absurd trying to even get over the ace). Totally laughable and dismal fail.
3.)prewrap—>MOS black grip tape (let’s try minimal wrap, barebones...NOPE EPIC FAIL)

I have officially burned through one black grip tape and a decent amount of prewrap just failing over and over, When I’m in the device I can tell the magic that lies beyond the pinching...Push a little and then crazy pain from pinching and wrap all fucked up...the wrapping key is what I need to unlock this amazing length routine destroyer. I literally did the newbie routine twice today MANUALLY...the soreness of forearms and wrists while staring at the beauty that is the LM can make a true PEer cry.

Trying to remain light hearted but still annoyed.

PS my prewrap is improving in terms of minimizing wrinkles. And DLD, the prewrap is the $4 CVS thin stuff, the grip tape is from you and so is the Ace, came with the LM I cut evenly in two. Ill be trying again tomorrow.

I love your patience and your willingness to take advice. We will have you up and running at full speed very soon. I’ll be here the whole time to help guide you.

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Today’s attempt: FAIL FAIL FAIL...all pinched glands. Won’t allow me to put any decent pressure on LM.

**ALL wraps started 50% over glands and as stretched as possible when trying to maintain a non wrinkled wrap**

1.) prewrap—>ace—>grip tape
2.)prewrap—>ace
3.)ace bandage

I tried using the wingnuts lightly and tight as well as pressing down on chamber while inserting the assist and wingnuts both lightly and tight. I am just about fed up with this shit. I can’t put any quality pressure (like a really aggressive stretch) without my fucking skin rolling over some of glands and then the glands pinch. I can’t even tell if they are pinching due to wrapping or the chamber. Running out of tape, ideas, and most of all PATIENCE. I have been doing the newbie routine daily sometimes twice even with sore wrists and irritating pain at the glands from using an ? grip at glands base as stretching (starts to become an issue by 2nd session)...I can tell the LM will deal with these issues..but FUCK I can’t any grip to satisfy my need for an intense stretch without pinching the glands. Will I ever find a wrap that allows me to put work on the assist handles and LM without pinching. DAMN IT!!!!!

 

[DLD]

Hold on hold on hold on, are you strapping in your head under the compression? Your wrap and the hanger all need to be below the head.

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

So I continued to work on wrapping at positioning after my rant and have found a little bit of the light, not totally there yet. I still have some pain, but am putting more pressure on than before. This is what I did:

I forced my skin over my glands to make the skin as tight as possible my using the slack skin to hold my fsl out and the wrapped behind the glands. Once wrapped my fsl still returned to normal length aka non stretched, but decided to try anyway. I got in and was able to apply more pressure even though some pain remained. I noticed I have to use significant force to really “feel” a stretch. Idk what this is about? Anyway, I did this with both prewrap—>ace—>grip tape and then again with just prewrap and grip tape...will determine which is best moving forward. I don’t want to have to apply all these damn layers just to stretch, but will find that medium. Is is normal to wrap with foreskin over your glands as a cut guy? My glands were still beyond the chamber just made me have to strap in closer to the base not totally an expressive stretch but almost. Still trying to figure it out. Less frustrated but still want to nail this without pain, I have not even tried to “hang” yet. Will continue to move forward

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

PS. Does limiting “wrinkling” apply to the skin, wrap or both? I am improving the wrinkling of the wrap, but I also due to last session extended my skin over my glands, limiting the wrinkled foreskin behind the glands so I wrap a smooth section of foreskin even if more skin is bunches near the glands and top of the chamber. That may have been what has helped a bit

 

[DLD]

PS. Does limiting “wrinkling” apply to the skin, wrap or both? I am improving the wrinkling of the wrap, but I also due to last session extended my skin over my glands, limiting the wrinkled foreskin behind the glands so I wrap a smooth section of foreskin even if more skin is bunches near the glands and top of the chamber. That may have been what has helped a bit

Somewhat but mostly to the wrap. I was so frustrated when I first started and I could not get a good wrap it was so ugghgg. I tried everything and I just kept failing. Whenever I got to a good wrap it would slip or I’d get pain, it was just a cycle of psychosis LOL eventually I found out that if my wrap was completely smooth and there was no wrinkles or creases I no longer had pain or pinching. I went from barely being able to hang 10 pounds without extreme pain to hanging 70 pounds with no pain.

 

[TopGainer]

Listen man I been doing this for over a year, no matter what anyone says, you can’t prevent your your skin to stretch and go over your glans. Trust me when I say this, I tried every way... as to rid your self of pinching, the way I did that was by putting in a silisleeve first, about inch and a half behind the glans, use duro sleeve, not the blue one. Then I wrap 12 inches of ace bandage, then I use the grip tape, brought to wrap around and hold the ace bandage together. Make sure your wrap is not too thick that will lead to pinching aswell. Make sure your wrap is ATLEAST an inch behind your glans. Tighten it as much as you can. There’s nothing you can do about the skin stretch. Regardless, you will get a decent stretch. Mixed with pumping, jelqing, and kegaling you’ll see really good results...

 

[DLD]

Listen man I been doing this for over a year, no matter what anyone says, you can’t prevent your your skin to stretch and go over your glans. Trust me when I say this, I tried every way... as to rid your self of pinching, the way I did that was by putting in a silisleeve first, about inch and a half behind the glans, use duro sleeve, not the blue one. Then I wrap 12 inches of ace bandage, then I use the grip tape, brought to wrap around and hold the ace bandage together. Make sure your wrap is not too thick that will lead to pinching aswell. Make sure your wrap is ATLEAST an inch behind your glans. Tighten it as much as you can. There’s nothing you can do about the skin stretch. Regardless, you will get a decent stretch. Mixed with pumping, jelqing, and kegaling you’ll see really good results...

Thank you my brother for showing us your wrapping technique. I truly pray this helps him I’ve been worried about this. So I appreciate you posting.

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Wrapping Update: I seem to be improving in terms of glands pinching. I find myself using the prewrap and then a self adhesive tape, think like medical adhesive with slight grip texture. This is working the best, but I do still experience a tiny pain when I stretch to the limits. Sometimes I feel like I only get a good workout if it’s super intense, but I know even mild stretching in the LM is helping. I am having a little trouble wrapping all the way down to the base, it’s almost as if the prewrap wants to roll back towards the glands once my slight turkey neck interrupts the base wrapping. Only bring it up do to wanting to enter the chamber at the very base of my shaft for experimentation with expressive stretching. I do feel a decent expressive stretch when say 3/4 towards the base, just want more ?. Maybe the MityVac will be my next purchase to help with hardcore stretches.

Current Routine (Daily):
- morning newbie length session (manual)
- SG 4-8 hrs
- LM stretches just to play around and master wrap, the bundles and btcs seem to be my best stretches so far.
- newbie girth session
- *2nd length session if possible.

**I will try and bump it to consistently doing 2 length sessions of newbie routine daily.** I am shooting for 1”-2” length gain in 6 months (fingers crossed), but def under 12 months.

 

[DLD]

I’m so proud of you for being so tenacious and consistent in finding what’s gonna work best for you. I know that it’s been frustrating but I truly appreciate how you’re still going after this until you perfect it. Routine looks good!

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

6-8-20 Random Comments:

I have slowly been improving on wrapping. Still just sports prewrap and medical grip tape. I will mention I was having a little difficulty prewraping as close to base as possible. My slight TN will make the prewrap roll back towards the glands slightly. Not a huge deal, but last session was primarily interested in expressives and getting into the chamber as close to base as possible. I had a decent amount of length out the front end of the chamber so I got to the base as far as my wrap would let me. Well.......

HOLY SHIT!!!

I did 4 sets of 30 second hold bundled stretches outward and upward at that chamber level. I am sore much more than usual. I did some BTCs and some relaxed side to sides and such but GOD DAMN. I can feel the elasticity of my tunica changing as well as the elasticity of the ligs closer to the base. I know for a fact that repeating that on a consistent basis with manual work and some SG will produce the length explosion to get me settled in around 8-8.5 EL. There is something about bundled stretches that is just absurd, combine with expressives and game over. I haven’t even tried hanging yet, will need wrapping guidance. Things are sore but outlook is ready for long term gains.

 

[DLD]

God bless you my brother you’re still going at it! Just shows me something about you. You are tenacious and determined. You do not let anything get in your way because you know what you want. I know this same tenacity and determination will translate into huge gains!

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Another LM Session Down:

Someone needs to download me on these bundles. I am getting blasted into Planet SoreCock with this shit. I am doing 30 second bundle holders for usually 4-5 sets up and outward and some regular side to sides and regular up and hold for tunica as this is the hardest to do properly manually. Also I tried a bundled BTC, wasn’t too comfortable, but tried it anyway lol. What is the deal with bundles, how does twisting and pulling up on your shit especially towards the base activate such a deep burn? I am using LM usually 3-4 times a week. I am working up to daily, but I do get the newbie routine in daily.

 

[DLD]

Another LM Session Down:

Someone needs to download me on these bundles. I am getting blasted into Planet SoreCock with this shit. I am doing 30 second bundle holders for usually 4-5 sets up and outward and some regular side to sides and regular up and hold for tunica as this is the hardest to do properly manually. Also I tried a bundled BTC, wasn’t too comfortable, but tried it anyway LOL. What is the deal with bundles, how does twisting and pulling up on your shit especially towards the base activate such a deep burn? I am using LM usually 3-4 times a week. I am working up to daily, but I do get the newbie routine in daily.

The deep burn comes from deep growth! When you do a bundle of stretch you’re engaging in a stretch that gives you twice the potential of a normal stretch. Some of the burn will be on the skin as your stretching skin but most of the soreness comes from the internal structures of your penis, the tissue the ligaments etc. I’m pleased that you’re getting such good sessions now and I really look forward to your growth.

When I was creating the bundle stretch it came from a very different perspective. I was ringing out a towel to get rid of the water and I noticed that as a twisted the towel and pulled it it made the towel longer. So I tested one towel unstretched against another towel stretched and bingo bundle stretches were created.

 

[NotSoSlimJim]

Update:

Been busy but still hitting my workouts. At a minimum it includes:
- morning manual newbie length routine
- immediate into LM
—> bundles and BTCs (3 sets minimum) each direction
—> testing hanging (using a water jug similar to those office drums filled w/ water. My attempts have been delicate as I have pushed the weight and just tried to test the wrap and hold of the LM. I am going to decrease some water and measure the weight and then get legit quality 20min-45min sessions in.
*On that note I contacted the MOS shop about my review of the LM for a gift of a durosleeve. If DLD could guide me for the proper measurements I would appreciate it. Want to test the duro w/ the LM for hanging.
- After I jump in the SG for some hours to keep extended (some hrs active, others passive, in terms of tension)

I have been consistent overall. I can tell shit is going to take off. As my hang is fantastic and my elasticity especially from expressive LM sessions is feeling great. I believe that sticking to the routine as above and then switching to more hanging dominant like a pyramid routine and some SRT LM routines can get me to possibly 9 X 6.5 by end of 2021. I have not measured but for conservative sake I will say I am still 7.5BPEL X 5.3MSEG. Hope this helps w/ duro advice. On a final note I am going to transition my thread back to my original, as wrapping troubles are basically over.

P.S—> Added benefit of PE. Confidence has skyrocketed. Girls can feel that I am walking around w/ a healthy lengthy and girthy stick due to all the PE. I also think my absolute conviction that I may break through my previous goals of 8X6 is legit is causing a boost and females sense it.

PSS. I didn’t put this in my LM review which I’ll be doing a longer one later, but if DLD lived a previous life and happened to be reborn to make the LM and advance PE he may be one of the following:

 

[DLD]

Update:

Been busy but still hitting my workouts. At a minimum it includes:
- morning manual newbie length routine
- immediate into LM
—> bundles and BTCs (3 sets minimum) each direction
—> testing hanging (using a water jug similar to those office drums filled w/ water. My attempts have been delicate as I have pushed the weight and just tried to test the wrap and hold of the LM. I am going to decrease some water and measure the weight and then get legit quality 20min-45min sessions in.
*On that note I contacted the MOS shop about my review of the LM for a gift of a durosleeve. If DLD could guide me for the proper measurements I would appreciate it. Want to test the duro w/ the LM for hanging.
- After I jump in the SG for some hours to keep extended (some hrs active, others passive, in terms of tension)

I have been consistent overall. I can tell shit is going to take off. As my hang is fantastic and my elasticity especially from expressive LM sessions is feeling great. I believe that sticking to the routine as above and then switching to more hanging dominant like a pyramid routine and some SRT LM routines can get me to possibly 9 X 6.5 by end of 2021. I have not measured but for conservative sake I will say I am still 7.5BPEL X 5.3MSEG. Hope this helps w/ duro advice. On a final note I am going to transition my thread back to my original, as wrapping troubles are basically over.

P.S—> Added benefit of PE. Confidence has skyrocketed. Girls can feel that I am walking around w/ a healthy lengthy and girthy stick due to all the PE. I also think my absolute conviction that I may break through my previous goals of 8X6 is legit is causing a boost and females sense it.

PSS. I didn’t put this in my LM review which I’ll be doing a longer one later, but if DLD lived a previous life and happened to be reborn to make the LM and advance PE he may be one of the following:

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