WantsMoreforWife Beginning PE Journey...

Just to add to this that rope feeling is quite normal in the beginning and whenever you change into a more intense routine Or a stronger tool. The best way to deal with this rope feeling is to do bundle stretch it until that feeling disappears. I went through it and I know that most of my brothers here I’ve gone through this.
 
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Appreciate the reply post and sharing some insight as to the rope feeling as well as some recommendations on how to overcome it. How’s PE going for you? How long, results?
 
DLD
Good to hear from you too! Still learning to interpret my body differentiating between tunica, inner and ligament limiting factors. I would take this to be ligaments have been stretched and now hitting the tunica limit-thus the reason for the bundles?
 
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Appreciate the reply post and sharing some insight as to the rope feeling as well as some recommendations on how to overcome it. How’s PE going for you? How long, results?

PE is going great right now. I'm coming up on 3 months in PE on May 12th and ive been holding off on measuring until that time. I know I have gained a fair amount but not sure how much. I'm excited to measure and see where I'm at.
 
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Good to hear things are going well for you. I’m about a month less than you at PE... and under the same measuring plan to wait about three months before checking things out. Be interesting to compare notes along the way, since starting about the same time, to help assist each other’s progress... what’s working...what’s not...new ideas...etc. Whats your starting stats?
 
25APR20

today is going to be a rest day! Started second phase of pumping routine last night...1-2”Hg increase in both wide and narrow tubes and 5 min longer in the narrow tube sessions. Thickest I’ve been by far; ? for length gains. Dabbling a bit with fulcrum stretching as well. ?
 
25APR20

today is going to be a rest day! Started second phase of pumping routine last night...1-2”Hg increase in both wide and narrow tubes and 5 min longer in the narrow tube sessions. Thickest I’ve been by far; ? for length gains. Dabbling a bit with fulcrum stretching as well. ?


Good old fulcrum, let me know how they go and feel
 
The reason you do bundle stretches is to stretch your tunica before you train. The tunica is extremely dense and takes this type of stretch to break it down. Once you have successfully pre-stretched the tunica you’ll be able to make a much greater length and girth gaines.
 
@DLD

thanks for continued coaching... been working on the tunica through bundle stretches... target about 10 minutes alternating through all directions and finishing with bundled cranks, 25 each direction prior to progressing through newbie routine- 6 days:wk, PE 2 months. I think girth gains will come easier than length for me and trying to not get caught increasing girth first that will further challenge length gains. Do you have any additional stretch recommendations to focus/exaggerate focus on length (fulcrum, etc) or recommend even additional bundles? I’m also trying some light hanging to stretch more and stay extended. @49-er has seen some efficient length gains alternating 50/50 bundles to regular stretches ( go andy!!). Understand with length you will get some girth and vise-verse. Based on your experience and expertise I figure you have experiential data up there ?.
 
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Good to hear things are going well for you. I’m about a month less than you at PE... and under the same measuring plan to wait about three months before checking things out. Be interesting to compare notes along the way, since starting about the same time, to help assist each other’s progress... what’s working...what’s not...new ideas...etc. Whats your starting stats?

Starting stats were:
EL 6 1/8
EG ~4 1/8

I started off with the newbie routine for about 6 weeks, mostly focusing on length and less on girth. It worked well. Then I started switching to an SRT type routine and added expressive stretches, fulcrum stretches(these work very well), erect stretches and implementing the healing principles of SRT.

Doing all this I got a good gap between my FSL and EL. So the last week I've been doing a lot of erect stretches to try and bring those closer together. The erect stretches have been working great and I can tell that they are going to successfully bring my EL closer to the FSL.

I have a routine thread on here:

 
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thanks for continued coaching... been working on the tunica through bundle stretches... target about 10 minutes alternating through all directions and finishing with bundled cranks, 25 each direction prior to progressing through newbie routine- 6 days:wk, PE 2 months. I think girth gains will come easier than length for me and trying to not get caught increasing girth first that will further challenge length gains. Do you have any additional stretch recommendations to focus/exaggerate focus on length (fulcrum, etc) or recommend even additional bundles? I’m also trying some light hanging to stretch more and stay extended. @49-er has seen some efficient length gains alternating 50/50 bundles to regular stretches ( go andy!!). Understand with length you will get some girth and vise-verse. Based on your experience and expertise I figure you have experiential data up there ?.
Everything that you’re mentioning here can be done with one tool, the Lengthmaster. For such a small price to get so much equipment. The LM is not only an assistant in stretching it is also a hanger, a bundle and roll chamber, and the body of a powerassist. Check out some of the exercises available as far as fulcrums go: PowerAssist. Also read through SRT to see how it to be used in many other ways.
 
3MAY2020

Hello all!

Spent the last few days continuing with yiur one and trying some new exercises To prepare for next phase of PE. Tried some fulcrums with pipe and even got into (mini) Mandingo stretches...although not quite as impressive as the video ?.

Have taken a couple days off pumping due to what I think is a bit of edema...I have one area just below glans probably the size of a nickel that is “puffy”. Not sure if from the more intense stretching or a bit more aggressive pumping. I do tend to have a bit of excess skin below the head...trying to work on flaccid length to stay extended and minimize.

Any thought from the brotherhood would be appreciated!

Ps....I did get a comment the other night...”you are getting bigger” ?.
 
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4MAY20

Still struggling with a bit of what I think is edema from pumping session Friday. First ever... but did recently just increase intensity slightly and more time. Gonna back off until things get back to normal.

So continuing with newbie stretches and bundles followed by wrap and light hanging.

Any idea how long it takes for a bit of edema to resolve?
 
6May20

still a it if water retentionunder the glans... no pumping but today got in a bit of stretching followed by wrap. Hopefully tomorrow is pretty normal and return to full stretching routine and hanging well it allows. Damn ?
 
Had to take a couple weeks off due to surgery... back at it about about 10 days now. So using the time off as a learning experience... flaccid length increase seemed to stay... flaccid girth seemed to stay ( fairly thick flaccid hang now... ligs/ etc. definitely lost some stretchy ness but still elongated a bit. Still no measuring... more evaluating from visual queues and feel. Measure in time ?

I do want to think about upping my length routine from the bundles and newbie routine daily and sporadic stretching throughout the day...really want to push length gains... any recommendations? (laid off the pumping to focus on the length as well).
 
Had to take a couple weeks off due to surgery... back at it about about 10 days now. So using the time off as a learning experience... flaccid length increase seemed to stay... flaccid girth seemed to stay ( fairly thick flaccid hang now... ligs/ etc. definitely lost some stretchy ness but still elongated a bit. Still no measuring... more evaluating from visual queues and feel. Measure in time ?

I do want to think about upping my length routine from the bundles and newbie routine daily and sporadic stretching throughout the day...really want to push length gains... any recommendations? (laid off the pumping to focus on the length as well).

you can double up what you’re doing right now to increase stretching time or you can seek out some new exercises to add in or to replace. Some more advanced stretches could be just what you need. We can add in things like DLD blasters, SRT blasters, foot long stretches, and many other manual stretches that are available.
 
@DLD

Thanks DLD. I think you are correct.

I’d be interested in and need to read up on some of the recommended advance manual stretches.do you recommend adding in one of the highlighted stretches or a combination of a few? Any particularly focus on buried/ ligament vs tunica stretching? I know that’s alotnifwuestioms in only a couple sentences ?
 
@DLD

Thanks DLD. I think you are correct.

I’d be interested in and need to read up on some of the recommended advance manual stretches.do you recommend adding in one of the highlighted stretches or a combination of a few? Any particularly focus on buried/ ligament vs tunica stretching? I know that’s alotnifwuestioms in only a couple sentences ?

I like to really mix it up with stretches. I do all of the newbie stretches because they hit every angle but then I include a whole host of other stretches that I will throw in every once in again keep things fresh. There are so many advanced stretches to choose from. I think some of the best stretches to include would be fulcrum stretches, you can see all of the stretches by going to the PowerAssist page. these stretches can be done with a powerassist, a lengthmaster or a simple piece of PVC pipe.
 
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Gentlemen... hope all is well. Haven’t been real active in my page lately , but have been reading f up as you’ve posted. Still continuing with PE... and as DLD had recommended, hebe started experimenting with some more of the advanced stretches. Have t measures yet but fairly confident of some flaccid gains in particular as some of the advanced stretches were difficult due to length limitations. Fulcrum stretching, as well as with some practice, has gotten easier and can really feel the “burn” afterwards which I take to be the increased intensity over the newbie routine. Also the tunics blasters and a “mini” Mandingo?... gonna need a little more before that one is efficient.

Waiting to hear how Andy makes out with the rubber band stretch... seems like that may be an easier one until some of us become more endowed...lol.

one suggestion I may ask of you and would help the brotherhood...aa more “average” brothers move into advanced stretching... what are the more possible and efficient ones to start with (I’d say from experience 6.5-7” is necessary to effectively performthe majority of the advanced stretches. Give some thought...I’m thinking fulcrums perhaps?

riutine still consists of The warm up, bundled, newbie... followed with experimenting through the remainder of the day- no organization yet as still trying to get the hang of it.

so... point blank... focusing on length- what have you experienced providing the Greatest results? Still haven’t officially measured, but thinking bpfsl is up to 6.25-6.5 so I’m pleased with progress over 3-5 months. Ready to focus and commit to more intense workout since I seem to be rather conditioned through newbies and the extra pull/burn feels really good. Appreciate your thoughts on this.
 
Wow. What an incredible write up! I am really digging your motivation and inspiration to make things happen no matter what.I love that you’re experimenting with different stretches but what’s gonna be most important is to get your size measured perfectly and put in exercises that will bring you to your goal.

Fulcrum stretching is awesome and can be done in many ways. Do you have the Lengthmaster? If so you can use it for everything you plan to do in this routine. I highly recommend checking out the PowerAssist fulcrum exercises which can be done with the LM. In addition you can hang with it. I have created 2 hanging routines better kick ass that you will find in the SRT thread. What’s most important to me is that we get a solid routine down so we can start following your progress.

I recommend looking through the whole SRT thread so you can understand more about gaining and healing. I also think you should look through the basic stretches found in the movie routine. Between these two threads and me working with you we can put an awesome working together.
 
@DLD

Ok!

First up I’ll work on obtaining solid measurements...BPEL and bpfsl.

second- no LM yet but looking to invest in one. Will continue to try to experiment and master the expressive stretches.

third- I will spend some time re-reading the SRT program and newbie routines to refresh on content and theory.

Fourth- work together on second phase routine (elevating beyond the newbie routine). Any questions I can answer as you assist in developing routine...please ask. Happy to help.

looking forward to hearing from you... thanks!!
 
@DLD

Ok!

First up I’ll work on obtaining solid measurements...BPEL and bpfsl.

second- no LM yet but looking to invest in one. Will continue to try to experiment and master the expressive stretches.

third- I will spend some time re-reading the SRT program and newbie routines to refresh on content and theory.

Fourth- work together on second phase routine (elevating beyond the newbie routine). Any questions I can answer as you assist in developing routine...please ask. Happy to help.

looking forward to hearing from you... thanks!!

Yes I would like you to get solid measurements so we know exactly where we’re starting from and where will be going. Save up for a Lengthmaster, the most important length tool. But we can do other things in replacement of the LM until you get it. How much time do you have every day to invest? How much PE have you done? Where are you now and where do you want to get to?
 
@DLD

Will be working on good measurements over the weekend as well as reading up on the SRT routines/program.

I’d say I spend an hour or so per day doing PE. Warm ups, bundles, newbies followed by wrapping fir about 45 -60 min in the AM and the 15-30 min through out the day. Rest of time try to spend wrapped.

This is probably the only serious PE I’ve done.. 4 +/- months. I also have a 2 tube pump , but have stopped using so I can focus on length primarily... I think girth is going to come easier.

As you can see in my stats. Rough starting was 5.25x5 or so...to start you thinking I’d guess I’m closing in on 6x5.5 ???.

Goal is 7x6... anything over is icing on the ?..lol. Kinda mutually decided goal with wife. ?. Probably didn’t want to show all her cards at once. ?

Thoughts? Reasonable goals from what you have seen? I’m in ?%!
 
@DLD

Will be working on good measurements over the weekend as well as reading up on the SRT routines/program.

I’d say I spend an hour or so per day doing PE. Warm ups, bundles, newbies followed by wrapping fir about 45 -60 min in the AM and the 15-30 min through out the day. Rest of time try to spend wrapped.

This is probably the only serious PE I’ve done.. 4 +/- months. I also have a 2 tube pump , but have stopped using so I can focus on length primarily... I think girth is going to come easier.

As you can see in my stats. Rough starting was 5.25x5 or so...to start you thinking I’d guess I’m closing in on 6x5.5 ???.

Goal is 7x6... anything over is icing on the ?..LOL. Kinda mutually decided goal with wife. ?. Probably didn’t want to show all her cards at once. ?

Thoughts? Reasonable goals from what you have seen? I’m in ?%!

Going for length only makes your job much easier and allows you to focus exclusively on what you’re doing. The best length exercises would be the basic stretches with some additional exercises and practices. If you are comfortable with tools I can write a routine for that.

MANUAL
going completely manual I would invest your time in the basic structures found in the newbie routine. Follow the healing practices in SRT keep yourself elongated after you have trained. I would add in three other exercises that will cover other areas of growth. The first would be Expressive stretching where are you concentrate on your lower shaft pulling penis from inside the body out. The second thing I would suggest is doing erect stretches 3-4 times a week for5-10 minutes. Lastly I would suggest a fulcrum exercise like DLD Blasters. This would be the best routine for a completely manual workout

TOOLS and MANUAL
SRT has become the industry standard for using tools and manual work to make gains in the fastest possible way. If you’re only going for length I suggest 2 tools ? the Lengthmaster and the SiliStretcher, These two devices are extremely powerful and will deliver growth quickly and safely. The difference here is the equipment itself. I would still advise you to do the basic stretches but you’ll be doing them using your LM which is extremely powerful. The additional stretching you can also do with your Lengthmaster. After that instead of wrapping to rename elongated use your SiliStretcher which will do a much better job. And using your SS you’ll be able to take part in active gaining and passive healing as outlined in SRT.

Let me know what you wanna do manual or tool/manual and I will create a routine for you.
 
long time...

going ok. still doing routine pumping-girth seems pretty good. manual stretching afterwards- not so much change.

about 6.5 in 2" tube @5Hg. so a little, but slow!

how about you? seen some pumping pics, looks like things are going well
 
long time...

going ok. still doing routine pumping-girth seems pretty good. manual stretching afterwards- not so much change.

about 6.5 in 2" tube @5Hg. so a little, but slow!

how about you? seen some pumping pics, looks like things are going well
Awesomeness!

Have you tried doing Bundled Stretches before your girth session? This will loosen up your Tunica albuginea, and elongate it.
This will benefit your ability to get maximum expansion, during and after your girth session.
 
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Inserting other discussion about family history and health concerns.

Main focuses:
  • Blood pressure issues. Magnesium is needed. May cause erection issues. May cause excessive turtling.
  • Good health, good general family background.
  • No generic abnormality.
  • Suffer slight disruptive erection during length workout. Very common.
Most got covered so far by brothers since 2020. But, we will pay a mind game with your body. You got a pump with 2 cylinders, a 2in and a 3in. Let us know all the tools in your arsenal right now and what do you have in terms of existing materials and incoming materials and devices. Example, sleeves, wraps, extender, ADS, Length Master, rock fuel, supplements, wife sexy French outfit for stimulation, cowboy boots, etc. (cwl)(cwl) Sorry, sorry. Just trying to humor myself from a long day of meetings.

By the way, any current medication, be over the counter or RX?
 
Welcome to the page O and L.... perfect suggestion.

Still have and utilize the pump with 2" and 3" cylinders. Make pretty good progress at packing the 2" tube, but haven't increased tube size since i would like to focus on length more. hanger for light hanging (not really interested in "heavy" hanging atleast at this point if it is not necessary). Use manual stretching at this point- just started bundles, so i think i have some gains to achieve here before perhaps moving on to the LM or more intense stretching. I have some sleeves, but haven't had the best of luck using them- semi flaccid/flaccid penis is to soft to get them on and not that i have huge girth but a little tight without some erection, which is challenging after PE routines. Have been religiously wrapping after workouts and now throughout the day to promote the passive healing.

Source of material is here on the MoS site... had originally researched some others, but this by far is where i felt most comfortable.

the sexy french outfits and cowboy boots will come back into play when there is "more" incentive for her 😂. Don't take any supplements, but on a light dose of BP med.
 
Still have and utilize the pump with 2" and 3" cylinders. Make pretty good progress at packing the 2" tube, but haven't increased tube size since i would like to focus on length more.
As we have discussed, pack that 2in tube to get the length going, and only increase to 2.25in tube because you can't shove into the 2in tube any longer. This is to constrain the tissues for pure length growth focus.

hanger for light hanging (not really interested in "heavy" hanging atleast at this point if it is not necessary). Use manual stretching at this point- just started bundles, so i think i have some gains to achieve here before perhaps moving on to the LM or more intense stretching. I have some sleeves, but haven't had the best of luck using them- semi flaccid/flaccid penis is to soft to get them on and not that i have huge girth but a little tight without some erection, which is challenging after PE routines. Have been religiously wrapping after workouts and now throughout the day to promote the passive healing.
By the way, I don't put my sleeves on while being semi-erected nor erected. I put them on while being flaccid. Yep. You read it right. Why flaccid? To prevent slippage. I'll have some photos taken to help out the brothers soon later tonight. Photos take less storage space than videos.

Source of material is here on the MoS site... had originally researched some others, but this by far is where i felt most comfortable.
Great to see acknowledgement like this. But always research other locations to ensure facts are verified and synched to match your comfort zones.

the sexy french outfits and cowboy boots will come back into play when there is "more" incentive for her 😂.
Hahahaha. Got it. She'll get it dusted off soon enough.

Don't take any supplements, but on a light dose of BP med.
If you don't mind, can you provide the med info, such as the name and dosage? This helps us to know how much interaction with the body and half life in the system.
 
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By the way, I don't put my sleeves on while being semi-erected nor erected. I put them on while being flaccid. Yep. You read it right. Why flaccid? To prevent slippage. I'll have some photos taken to help out the brothers soon later tonight. Photos take less storage space than videos.
Thank you! I’ve been so anxious to use the sleeves over the wraps, just haven’t figured them out yet. Will be on the lookout.
 
Olmesartan 40mg
That's pretty intense BP med there. 40mg at cap value for for Olmesartan. Must be some serious issue the doctor wanted to use at that max value. Commonly, it's only 20mg for adults. Make sure to stay hydrated as much as you can. This med, although not as common, can cause your system to get quite dehydrated without you knowing. If you can, ask the doctor to reduce the dosage to 20mg if it's feasible. If it's not feasible, do get the reason why.

Alrighty, we got a pretty full picture. Let's take this PE journey on at full gear, starting at 5mph before we step the pedal to the metal.

Let's take into account that you have very rigid tunica. VERY RIGID. We have to make sure to break that first. If you already have the Length Master in the work, perfect. If not, the 25% off for the purchase is still golden for the holiday. Gift yourself a tool for a bigger penis. With that being said, we have to loosen that rigidity to ensure elongation to happen. By loosening that rigidity, we also ensure the expansion to happen. You already experienced the newbie bundled stretches, but as SIM stated in your prior post, you need that bundled behind the cheeks (BTC), dynamic stretching style. If you can do that with manual (hand) stretches for now with the same effectiveness, do so. This can be as a warm up for the pumping, and it can be as part of the routines for the length processes. In your case, I want to suggest an alternate day for length and girth, 2 days on, 1 day off, starting light. This is to get your penis to get responsive with the journey ahead. It goes something like this:

Length Day:
It's essential to have the Length Master for leverage. But if you don't have it, yet, do the best that you can with what you have, even if you have to strap the penis to a 12in segment of a broomstick. You need the penis to twist to maximum degrees for each direction, while adding enough traction force to break the tissue bonds. This is lateral-longitudinal tissue stressors. It must occur. We called this the bundle stretches as you've already known, but you must pull downwards and backwards. Consider 0 degree is straight down, and 90 degrees is going between the legs and to the back of the butt cheeks. You must achieve between 100 to 120 degrees. To achieve these optimal angles, sit on the chair while facing the back rest, lean forward and rest on the back rest, and stick your butt out far as you can. The further out you stick out, the higher the angle you can achieve.

So:
  • Tissue warmup, 5 minutes, newbie routines.
  • Tissue softenening, 20 minutes total, 5 minutes per repetition with twisting completely to one direction, pulling until you feel a tug from the base of the glans ALL THE WAY down to the inner side of the base of the penis. Find that angle between 90 to 120 degrees. Pull just enough where you can feel the entire tug of the entire penis.
  • Add 5 more minutes going straight down at 0 degree. The same entire penis pulling must be felt.
  • Post lengthening routine using wraps/sleeves.
Pumping day:
For now, 3 sets:
  • Tissue warm up through heat application
  • Tissue pre-pumping through stretches. Minimum is 5 minutes. You can do SRT newbie routine for the pre-stretching, or, you if think you already reach an intermediate level through pumping, you can do a bundled (including rotation twist as you pull downward, sidewards, and upward) to break down the tissues before pumping. Also look at DLD's videos for various manual stretches, especially his DLD Blasters under the Media section or the Resources and Programs. This is required to break down the lateral tissues for expansion and lengthening.
  • Reduce pumping from 15 minutes down to 5 minutes max. First 2 minutes at 5PSI, next 1 minutes at 7PSI, 1 minute at 9PSI, and 1 minute at 6PSI. Why a swing? You are trying to break the tissues only, and not bringing fluid in.
  • Spend 10 minutes on slow squash jelq (see 5x5x3 and the videos if you don't know what it is). You can also implement horse jelq into the mix.
  • Spend 5 minutes on downward slow squash jelq by pulling one hand in the OK grip at the base of the glans while the hand using an OK grip at the base of the penis. The hand at the base of the penis should create a bulk of a downward pressure as you slowly, ever slowly, glide down toward the OK grip at the base of the glans. The travel time is around 1 to 2 minutes. This allows you to pull on the tunica and the ligaments for stressing while inflating the penile shaft. At the same time, you're protecting the glans from possible blister due to higher positive fluid pressure.
Use which ever cylinder you want. For length using pumping, the cylinder should only be slighly larger than your erected penis size.

Post pumping routine, wrap up your penis around the base or wear a cock ring for 60 minutes. You want to restrict the engorged blood from leaving the penis too fast. The penis should have a good volume of blood similar to the erected size blood volume, while it's flaccid. The blood should leave on its own within 5 minutes without being erected. Maximum time for the large volume of blood sits inside the penis is 10 minutes. Squeeze all the blood out if the volume of blood if it doesn't deflate on its own. Replace the lost volume of blood every 5 to 10 minutes through a light kegel or erection.

Try this for 2 weeks, and make sure to observe and document the adaptation to the routine.
 
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