Progress thread Question about girth training and length training.

Morning routine:

Bathmate x40 for 10mins warmup.

5x5x3 with 10hg.

Airpump for 5mins. 12,5hg.

Penis feels like its adjusting to higher pressure (12,5hg) quite fast. No pain what so ever. But definitely not a thing to do every day. As lengthwise, got to 19cm inside pump quite easily today. Hopefully it shows 20cm soon. Crossing my fingers. ☺️
 
You're on FIRE!! Looks like your baseline is 10 inHg, or even at 11 inHg. You're entering into extreme growth zone. Do be careful at this point though. 13 to 15 inHg will induce blisters when you lease expected. If you are circumcised, 13 will still be in the safe zone because your glans's skin have been conditioned and toughen. 14 to 15 inHg will be in the red zone. At 380 mmHg, separation of epidermis (top skin) is nearly 70%. 400 mmHg is 90%. Be careful brother.
 
This weekend I am out on a trip, so routine is bit different.

Bathmate Hercules: 15 mins. Gator bites are real. 😬

One set of SSJ 5 mins.

This is for maintenance, and after reading the post by oldandlively, I came to the conclusion, that it may actually be more beneficial to do atleast some pumping on healing days.
 
Infected Mushroom said:
This weekend I am out on a trip, so routine is bit different.

Bathmate Hercules: 15 mins. Gator bites are real. 😬

One set of SSJ 5 mins.

This is for maintenance, and after reading the post by oldandlively, I came to the conclusion, that it may actually be more beneficial to do atleast some pumping on healing days.
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If you must pump, just one session is enough then allow the cells to rest at a low expanded states, or common erection volume size. Rest is crucial to allow cellular bodies to catch up. Too much stresses can cause cell death rather than cell preservation. This is survival mechanism. Just eat healthy and provide the body the bioavailable essentials materials during recovery. When ever possible, super charge those mitochondrial powerhouses.
 
Infected Mushroom said:
Bathmate Hercules: 15 mins. Gator bites are real. 😬
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The new Bathmate pumps are much better in this regard (hydromax and HydroXtreme).
I also suggest you use Vaseline to lubricate your penis so it will slide.

Remember to clean your pump after every usage.
I use mild liquid hand soap and a soft sponge to clean my pumps. Do not remove the valve for cleaning, just rinse through it with warm water.
The valve should only be removed when you need to replace it.
 
I need to replace my Hercules with better version. Hercules is ok for warmup, but shitty valve makes it pain in the ass to use. Gotta try vaseline. Sometimes I use vaseline after training, because warm / hot water remove skins natural oil. But here in Finland we have this healing moisturizer: Bepanthen, that is really good for skin. Mainly I dont use Hercules anymore for warmup, but I use X40.

Todays simple travel routine: 15mins Bathmate Hercules. Tomorrow I will get back to my 5x5x3 routine. EQ is good atm. I have been on semen retention for a week now. For some reason it helps with getting rid of the conditioning that I went through with my ex. Problem is that I see dreams about her. But eventually they will pass.
 
Infected Mushroom said:
I need to replace my Hercules with better version. Hercules is ok for warmup, but shitty valve makes it pain in the ass to use. Gotta try vaseline. Sometimes I use vaseline after training, because warm / hot water remove skins natural oil. But here in Finland we have this healing moisturizer: Bepanthen, that is really good for skin. Mainly I dont use Hercules anymore for warmup, but I use X40.

Todays simple travel routine: 15mins Bathmate Hercules. Tomorrow I will get back to my 5x5x3 routine. EQ is good atm. I have been on semen retention for a week now. For some reason it helps with getting rid of the conditioning that I went through with my ex. Problem is that I see dreams about her. But eventually they will pass.
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You should never let her know you think about her, or send her pictures of your big dick.
You need to cut the connection. Change number, address and never let her come near you.

If you play a narcissist game you will be destroyed from within. Trust me I know. I had one in my life during my entire life. This person way using psychological abuse/control so I could not live my own life, I felt trapped in my own life, and I felt controlled. Even if this person was not with me, I felt the control. It was like a psychological leash and it drains me to the bottom.

Imagine having this type of abuse for your entire life without knowing until you are over 30 years old. When I was young: Crying was not allowed. If I misbehaved this person hit me. There is no love with a narcissist, even if they personally do not have insight in their own behavior (they do not have that) their goal is to use people for their personal benefit.

It can be dark, and they can destroy your life. I'm not fully free, even if there was like 2 years since I talked to this person. I feel the stress from it even now. This person do not understand why I cut them out of my life. They will never understand. This person have tried to contact me a couple of times, but I am firm and I make sure I remember how I grew up. I will never let this person into my life again. I need to be able to be free, and live my own life. It feels like this psychological leash is still on me.

Never play their game brother. Just disappear from their life.
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
The new Bathmate pumps are much better in this regard (hydromax and HydroXtreme).
I also suggest you use Vaseline to lubricate your penis so it will slide.

Remember to clean your pump after every usage.
I use mild liquid hand soap and a soft sponge to clean my pumps. Do not remove the valve for cleaning, just rinse through it with warm water.
The valve should only be removed when you need to replace it.
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Just be sure to purchase from MOS ad they are the real deal with an incredible warranty. Going outside of the brotherhood you may end up with a knock off
 
DLD said:
Just be sure to purchase from MOS ad they are the real deal with an incredible warranty. Going outside of the brotherhood you may end up with a knock off
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Indeed.

Here are all the pumps.













 
Infected Mushroom said:
I found the solution to problem, and it is stupid simple. If I put protector cap too high or don't use protector cap, there will be blisters or bloodspots... If protector cap is stretched more lower behind glans, Phallosan Plus sleeve creates vacuum from behind glans so that the stretching force pulls up more from root of glans, not on top or surface of the glans. This is why tension should not be too high from the start of the extender use. Glans needs to become bit bloated, so when pieces of bars are added, vacuum Bell still divides pull force more to root of glans, not to top of glans. This also means, that vacuum bells vacuum does not need to be too high, medium seems to be Best, atleast for me. Extending like this feels more like: I am pulling my penis with my OK-fingers. Not like my glans is too full and there is negative feeling on my glans. Maybe this post helps someone using Phallosan Plus or some other vacuum bell extender. 😘
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This has greatly helped me! I’ve been searching through the forums looking for ways to lessen the edema/blisters and though there is minimal edema I can now wear the ads for much longer without worrying. Thanks
 
Sauna changes things alot. If you use bathmate, water keeps heat, so no need for heatpad. I propably will replace my hercules and x40 with mityvac later on. Atm they do their job. Lengthmaster is no. 1 on my order list.

Routine for today was:

Warmup sauna with Bathmate x40. 10mins.

5x5x3 airpump. 10hg.

1 hour for Phallosan Forte ADS.

I really would like to use Phallosan at night, but I get nightly erections, so its pain in the ass to wear at night. 😬
 
Infected Mushroom said:
Sauna changes things alot. If you use bathmate, water keeps heat, so no need for heatpad. I propably will replace my hercules and x40 with mityvac later on. Atm they do their job. Lengthmaster is no. 1 on my order list.

Routine for today was:

Warmup sauna with Bathmate x40. 10mins.

5x5x3 airpump. 10hg.

1 hour for Phallosan Forte ADS.

I really would like to use Phallosan at night, but I get nightly erections, so its pain in the ass to wear at night. 😬
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Yes a sauna should be a game changer. I have used extreme heat throughout my penis enlargement. Without it I wouldn't have grown. I even bought a second heating fan at 2kW for this purpose.

I will see but I still believe Bathmate have something that other pumps do not have, especially when used without the comfort insert and when you start out with the correct size (not to big). When starting out with a to big pump you risk the deformation not being evenly throughout your shaft.

Many want to go for the 9 immediately even when they do not max the smaller pumps out in width first. Some seams to grow more in length, even when they focus on girth and having a wide pump. Maybe they use to little pressure?
 
oldandlively said:
I know how you feel. When the glans expands, and you're limited by the cylinder size, it becomes a wake up call.
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Get a wider pump. I still believe if you do not max out the width in the 7 Wide Boy (same width as the 9), you should not go for the 9.

Maxing out the length in 7 Wide Boy and being ~8 Inch without maximum out the width, this I do not understand.
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
Get a wider pump. I still believe if you do not max out the width in the 7 Wide Boy (same width as the 9), you should not go for the 9.

Maxing out the length in 7 Wide Boy and being ~8 Inch without maximum out the width, this I do not understand.
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Rather than girth maxing out, it's the length hi hitting the top. To provide good equalizing pressure to influence the vacuum pressure, the top head space is needed. That 0.5in to 2in of head space allows the air bubbles to be trapped, and expunged out of the system. It also to prevent accident to the glans from being sucked/pressurized at the very top as the baffles gaiter compressed down. Painful issue. The glans cannot outpace the cylinder diameter unless you completely maxed it out from bottom to top.
 
oldandlively said:
Rather than girth maxing out, it's the length hi hitting the top. To provide good equalizing pressure to influence the vacuum pressure, the top head space is needed. That 0.5in to 2in of head space allows the air bubbles to be trapped, and expunged out of the system. It also to prevent accident to the glans from being sucked/pressurized at the very top as the baffles gaiter compressed down. Painful issue. The glans cannot outpace the cylinder diameter unless you completely maxed it out from bottom to top.
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Off course I understand.

I believe if you have a wider pump you will not get to the top of the pump (comparing: 7 to 7 Wide Boy). But this may be different for other people. For example if you start to hit the valve at top with the regular 7 now, and then change that pump out to 7 Wide Boy.

My belief is that you may not get as far in length inside the pump, because your penis have more room to expand in girth now (no comfort insert). Becouse you need to be able to hit the walls of that pump before you can expand up the shaft.

But I can be wrong. This may not be true for everyone, I do not know. This is my experience at least.
 
My example above are based on the fact if you only are using a Bathmate pump and are not doing stretching. Can be risky if you still grow a lot in length to get the 7 Wide Boy and not 9.
 
It also depends on the amount of the base lax tissues being sucked up too. Those who don't have strong internal tissues will get pulled upward, filling the length of the cylinder. Very common. Once you know the pulls max out but not hitting the top, you can keep using the same cylinder. But it you notice the pulls continue to rise, making the glans touch the top, time to switch. Everyone is indeed different according to where they are during PE. I have to switch cylinders in the past too because of the internal tissue pulls.
 
oldandlively said:
It also depends on the amount of the base lax tissues being sucked up too. Those who don't have strong internal tissues will get pulled upward, filling the length of the cylinder. Very common. Once you know the pulls max out but not hitting the top, you can keep using the same cylinder. But it you notice the pulls continue to rise, making the glans touch the top, time to switch. Everyone is indeed different according to where they are during PE. I have to switch cylinders in the past too because of the internal tissue pulls.
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Very good point.
What is base lax tissues?

I can't use my Hydomax 5 for this reason.
I maxed the girth fully and it was extremely uncomfortable, but I kept at it until I hit the valve at top, even when my base and shaft pushed hard into the rubber creases and cylinder walls. Girth expansion into the wall hindered length expansion as well.

My penis looked like a tire afterwards, and I got some numbness. More then enough signs to only use a bigger pump.
 
Base lax, or relaxed/weakened, tissue is a common term used in medical fields indicating a high or too stressful tissue that cannot maintain contractive strength. Imagine if you will, someone twist/break limb. Due to the high trauma stress on the connective muscle tissues surrounding the tendon or ligament (tendon is tissue connecting to muscles where ligament connects from muscles-to-bone or bone-to-bone), the tissues become relax/lax and cannot engage effective during contraction. Rather than contract to hold things in place, the tissues just relax even during a contractive state. This is why we always warn the brothers to let the tissues rest for 6 to 8 hours without doing anything to reset this fatigueness weakened state. Yours is way too strong since you conditioned the living daylight out of your tissues.

This is why if you want to limit your length growth, just use a larger cylinder and go for broke for girth expansion using larger cylinders. If you're going for restrictive girth growth and force for length, put on the comfort sleeve. But using the LM3 for length is much more productive. Everything is about comforts first.
 
oldandlively said:
Base lax, or relaxed/weakened, tissue is a common term used in medical fields indicating a high or too stressful tissue that cannot maintain contractive strength. Imagine if you will, someone twist/break limb. Due to the high trauma stress on the connective muscle tissues surrounding the tendon or ligament (tendon is tissue connecting to muscles where ligament connects from muscles-to-bone or bone-to-bone), the tissues become relax/lax and cannot engage effective during contraction. Rather than contract to hold things in place, the tissues just relax even during a contractive state. This is why we always warn the brothers to let the tissues rest for 6 to 8 hours without doing anything to reset this fatigueness weakened state. Yours is way too strong since you conditioned the living daylight out of your tissues.

This is why if you want to limit your length growth, just use a larger cylinder and go for broke for girth expansion using larger cylinders. If you're going for restrictive girth growth and force for length, put on the comfort sleeve. But using the LM3 for length is much more productive. Everything is about comforts first.
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Thank you for this answer, it makes sense.
Bathmate HydroExtreme 11 is wider.
 
Infected Mushroom said:
Sauna changes things alot. If you use bathmate, water keeps heat, so no need for heatpad. I propably will replace my hercules and x40 with mityvac later on. Atm they do their job. Lengthmaster is no. 1 on my order list.

Routine for today was:

Warmup sauna with Bathmate x40. 10mins.

5x5x3 airpump. 10hg.

1 hour for Phallosan Forte ADS.

I really would like to use Phallosan at night, but I get nightly erections, so its pain in the ass to wear at night. 😬
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The length master will be your best tool ever as.It brings length faster than any other method. I'm also happy that you're looking at the mityvac as this is the Best professional pump on the market.
 
Infected Mushroom said:
Sauna changes things alot. If you use bathmate, water keeps heat, so no need for heatpad. I propably will replace my hercules and x40 with mityvac later on. Atm they do their job. Lengthmaster is no. 1 on my order list.

Routine for today was:

Warmup sauna with Bathmate x40. 10mins.

5x5x3 airpump. 10hg.

1 hour for Phallosan Forte ADS.

I really would like to use Phallosan at night, but I get nightly erections, so its pain in the ass to wear at night. 😬
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Don't wear it at night brother. You need to let the night time erections take place, they're essential.
 
5x5x3 Routine as usual.

Expansion is awesome!

I bought 3 types on bandages, and I am going to test wrapping for healing in elongated state. If I do this correct, I will use Phallosan Bell for getting flaccid stretched, and gonna wrap around it. First time is going to be hassle. But before wrapping, I will heat sauna, and do some edging and smooth jelqing.
 
Infected Mushroom said:
5x5x3 Routine as usual.

Expansion is awesome!

I bought 3 types on bandages, and I am going to test wrapping for healing in elongated state. If I do this correct, I will use Phallosan Bell for getting flaccid stretched, and gonna wrap around it. First time is going to be hassle. But before wrapping, I will heat sauna, and do some edging and smooth jelqing.
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Awesome news!
 
Routine for today

Phallosan Forte for hour, and Plus for hour. I wanted to test how much it makes difference. After this I wore Bathmate Hercules for 15mins. Got easy 19cm inside it, so it seems that using extender first is beneficial atleast in some degree.

This day is more of healing day, as 5x5x3 is Super effective at doing cellular damage. Using boron, magnesium and zinc helps at healing tissue really fast.
 
Infected Mushroom said:
Routine for today

Phallosan Forte for hour, and Plus for hour. I wanted to test how much it makes difference. After this I wore Bathmate Hercules for 15mins. Got easy 19cm inside it, so it seems that using extender first is beneficial atleast in some degree.

This day is more of healing day, as 5x5x3 is Super effective at doing cellular damage. Using boron, magnesium and zinc helps at healing tissue really fast.
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Exactly. Pre-stretching further stretching under pressure, be with the LM or the Bathmate. This is me, but in your case, I would suggest measure the traction tension at 3lbs of force for 15 minutes, promote up to 7lbs of tension force for 20 minutes, then back to 5lbs for 10 more minutes. Keep the penis using the Forte or Plus until you shove it in the Bathmate. You'll get a pleasant surprise in terms of girth and length additional expansion. Just something to test for yourself.
 
Infected Mushroom said:
Routine for today

Phallosan Forte for hour, and Plus for hour. I wanted to test how much it makes difference. After this I wore Bathmate Hercules for 15mins. Got easy 19cm inside it, so it seems that using extender first is beneficial atleast in some degree.

This day is more of healing day, as 5x5x3 is Super effective at doing cellular damage. Using boron, magnesium and zinc helps at healing tissue really fast.
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Excellent day!
 
This mornings routine was great! 🍆🥰

Routine:

Phallosan Plus for 1 hour. Measured about 19cm stretch flaccid. (large bell). After this flaccid hung nicely.

Warmup for pumping:

Bathmate x40 for 10mins. But got as much pressure as possible.

5x5x3. 10hg. 🍆 Felt great. So I decided to try up the pressure...

Airpump for 1 minute. Raised from 10hg to 15hg. This was my "Stretch limit". I got roughly to 19,4cm with 15hg pressure. I will build towards higher pressure, but only with slight raises to prevent injury. I have a feeling, or I have had this feeling for while, that I gain girth faster than length. This method feels good to me, and even when it is "Hard" or "at the limit of tolerance", it doesnt cause blisters. Bow to god for that. 🙏🥰
 
Little bit addition to my Last post. I noticed nice fatigue, so I decided to use Phallosan Plus for 2 more hours. After that I warmed sauna, and did some manual stretching: downward, upward, sides, and bundled stretches. Each for 10 secs. Dick is quite tender from all the pumping and ssj I did today.

When doing manual stretches: What is your opinion on optimal time under tension in seconds? 🤔
 
Infected Mushroom said:
Little bit addition to my Last post. I noticed nice fatigue, so I decided to use Phallosan Plus for 2 more hours. After that I warmed sauna, and did some manual stretching: downward, upward, sides, and bundled stretches. Each for 10 secs. Dick is quite tender from all the pumping and ssj I did today.

When doing manual stretches: What is your opinion on optimal time under tension in seconds? 🤔
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I believe 30 seconds is the baseline. In reality, 1 second is all it takes to break a cell membrane under high intensity. 30 seconds just add that extra layer of breaking more cells and stress the tissues out even further. If you're comforatable, to 45 seconds while holding the tension. For example, if you're twisting, twist and hold at the max rotation up to 45 seconds. Why? Imagine the wet towel being wrung. Same with cells. You wrung those cells at max torque/tension, they snapped under pressure. Same with the bending (broomstick style) at each location. Snap, crackle, pop.
 
oldandlively said:
I believe 30 seconds is the baseline. In reality, 1 second is all it takes to break a cell membrane under high intensity. 30 seconds just add that extra layer of breaking more cells and stress the tissues out even further. If you're comforatable, to 45 seconds while holding the tension. For example, if you're twisting, twist and hold at the max rotation up to 45 seconds. Why? Imagine the wet towel being wrung. Same with cells. You wrung those cells at max torque/tension, they snapped under pressure. Same with the bending (broomstick style) at each location. Snap, crackle, pop.
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I prefer to do 5 minute bundled stretches, no better way to maximize the elongation (but you need your penis really warm).
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
I prefer to do 5 minute bundled stretches, no better way to maximize the elongation (but you need your penis really warm).
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Malleability is one of the keys to maximize tissue manipulation. This is why using a hot spa, sauna, or heat source of influence do a great job for tissue forming. Those who don't have such luxury, a warm rice sock in between each set of the routine.
 
oldandlively said:
Malleability is one of the keys to maximize tissue manipulation. This is why using a hot spa, sauna, or heat source of influence do a great job for tissue forming. Those who don't have such luxury, a warm rice sock in between each set of the routine.
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I agree. I have 2 heating fans for this reason.
 
I will try those 5min bundled stretches. Should be good addition to routine, and easy to do in sauna.

Today was simple healing: bit of mild jelqing and edging to get blood flowing. Nothing major. EQ seems fine. Tomorrow back to 5x5x3 routine. 🍄
 
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