Proof penis pumps cause traction

[tbean750]

Pictures attached!!!!!!+((((++

 

[DLD]

Confused what does this mean?

 

[oldandlively]

i wouldn't trust AI info too much. AI language models (LLMs) are know to favor searcher's info and provide mainly positive returns from the search. Unfortunately, they don't filter out bad info. This is where your own research comes into play. Only use AIs for limited info finding. Don't believe in the AIs data mining so adamantly that your life can be messed up on it.

Let me provide you some of the articles you can read through:

Penile Traction Device vs Penis Pump: Which Option is Best?

Learn whether a traction device or a penis pump is the best option for you - side-by-side comparision of benefits, evidence, and how to choose.

lynkpleasure.com

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2050052118300192

A vacuum device for penile elongation: fact or fiction? - PubMed

Vacuum treatment of the penis is not an effective method for penile elongation, but provides psychological satisfaction for some men.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I can provide another 12 medical and biological journal publications that will tell you that penis pump doesn't not, or very little, provide penis lengthening.

 

[tbean750]

Confused what does this mean?

Well everyone or the majority of people seem to say pumping can't cause length gains because it doesn't create traction but pnly syretvjers do, these two google searches say it does. I personally don't think it CANT create traction once it's past your normal erection length in the pump, at this point it is also pulling it; causing traction. I believe the reasons people's length gains by pumps aren't as much is because pumping is usually a 15-40 minute things vs stretchers are usually in hours, so the gains are there but you won't have it the same amount due to the time. Just what I believe because when I pump I feel that pulling the penis it's just not using string or a stretching device but air or water pressure to cause the traction after it's expanded and grew last it's normal lengths, for girth past your normal girth of the penis and for the length traction starting after it hits past the normal erection size of your penis at this point it's pulling the penis (traction) even if it's not a stretcher device but water or air pressure expansion.

 

[DLD]

I would suggest you believe the brotherhood and ask for suggestions or questions to our team before trusting in companies that really have no clue when it comes to mechanical and physical advice. As above you can see how quickly @oldandlively came to you with the real deal.

 

[oldandlively]

Well everyone or the majority of people seem to say pumping can't cause length gains because it doesn't create traction but pnly syretvjers do, these two google searches say it does.

Google AI is great for finding answers, but the answer can be misleading based on AI generated reported. I program and work with AI models for my fields of works as well. I can tell you one thing, AIs can't sort the amount of bias info and data dumped on the net past 80%. As human, we can discern the reality versus optimized facts through honed instincts called skepticism.

I personally don't think it CANT create traction once it's past your normal erection length in the pump, at this point it is also pulling it; causing traction. I believe the reasons people's length gains by pumps aren't as much is because pumping is usually a 15-40 minute things vs stretchers are usually in hours, so the gains are there but you won't have it the same amount due to the time. Just what I believe because when I pump I feel that pulling the penis it's just not using string or a stretching device but air or water pressure to cause the traction after it's expanded and grew last it's normal lengths, for girth past your normal girth of the penis and for the length traction starting after it hits past the normal erection size of your penis at this point it's pulling the penis (traction) even if it's not a stretcher device but water or air pressure expansion.

You are correct on this. When using a static pressure level, say at -8inHg to -12inHg for a very, very, very long time, you are indeed creating a negative pressure traction force just like the extender. But, you have to take into account the following issues while using the pump:

1. High negative pressures cause fluid stagnation and buildup. To maximize length gains, you must, and I say MUST because it's proven for decades, maintain a stretch on the penis at least 4 hours. Within this 4 hours window, the tissues breaks down. The great thing about the pump is it does break down the tissues in 20 minutes, allowing that 4 hours window of required stretching to cut down to 60 minutes. HOWEVER, and this is pure proven facts, for the pump to break down the tunica tissues and not the lateral soft tissues, the pressure must exceed -15inHg, entering into the realm of extremely unsafe. Some mega pump devices will go as high as -100inHg for 5 seconds, breaking every tunica tissues at a major unsafe level. At the same time, it also place burdens and damages to the nerves and blood vessels. I freaked out seeing these mega pumps caused sheer stresses on the penises.
2. To optimize length growth, a tissue break down required for the first length of the period, but a gentler extension and bracing period of 4 hours or more is also required. This is there the all day stretcher (ADS) or extender comes into play. The maximum traction tension is 1.12kg and not more. Why? Exceeding the 1.12kg after the stressed tissues will place burdens on the penis that forces the penis to switch to preservation mode. That means the penis will shrink and goes into turtling. You'll lose your flaccid state that you want. Optimal stretched and braced time is around 14 hours.
3. Fluid buildups, or edema, cause blistering and skin layer rupturing for prolong use of pump with high pressures. The reason why the companies limit the pump use for 15 to 20 minutes is because of the pressures causing fluid to build up. This is why @DLD and many brothers came up with the 5x5x3 basic program to get rid of the fluid while building up the positive pressure to stretch the penis from the inside. This is a balancing game in the world of PE. Pumping alone will cause distortion in the penis that will ultimate cause your penis to break.

 

[tbean750]

I would suggest you believe the brotherhood and ask for suggestions or questions to our team before trusting in companies that really have no clue when it comes to mechanical and physical advice. As above you can see how quickly @oldandlively came to you with the real deal.

I believe it I just find it hard to believe there's no length gains pumping I do believe you guys stretchers are more but I feel like see somewhat length gains from pumping just not springing out as much

 

[oldandlively]

I believe it I just find it hard to believe there's no length gains pumping I do believe you guys stretchers are more but I feel like see somewhat length gains from pumping just not springing out as much

If it works for you brother, it's a blessing. Give it a try for the next 6 months to see how well your pumping and traction method works. If you do gain length from pumping, you will be a rare few that do. If you exceed 0.75in of gains in a year to two years, you'll be one of the rarest ones out there.

 

[tbean750]

I will keep it going just to see how much I can get. I also got some thick elastic cord from Amazon to attempt and make my own stretcher with I'm going to tie one end around my penis and one one of my big toes and then IF I can get it to stay on both sides, I will push out my foot until I don't want more tension or traction and just lay this for 30 minutes plus when I use it. I tried a vacuum cup stretcher last week only for about 16 minutes when I took it off two huge blisters were on the top of my penis head it was scary thankfully they went down to nothing within two hours. I threw that hole kit away it was $56 on Amazon but I will never ever use vacuum cups again.

 

[DLD]

I will keep it going just to see how much I can get. I also got some thick elastic cord from Amazon to attempt and make my own stretcher with I'm going to tie one end around my penis and one one of my big toes and then IF I can get it to stay on both sides, I will push out my foot until I don't want more tension or traction and just lay this for 30 minutes plus when I use it. I tried a vacuum cup stretcher last week only for about 16 minutes when I took it off two huge blisters were on the top of my penis head it was scary thankfully they went down to nothing within two hours. I threw that hole kit away it was $56 on Amazon but I will never ever use vacuum cups again.

Looking forward to seeing your stretcher. NEVER buy from Amazon as 90% of what they carry are knockoffs. Always shop at the MOS shop as everything is real and certified with a lifetime warranty.