Progress thread My All-Out SRT Routine!

At least I need to remind myself to be greatful to have achieved my initial goal of 6" MSEG and a longer flaccid, to keep things in perspective 🙏
I'm sorry if I write so much in your progress thread now @MosMaster.

I suppose the previous 🔗 post #615 I wrote, was a little bit on the extreme side. Stretching so hard that your dick almost fall off, that is: Not probably what I should recommend as a moderator.
I will not recommend that. We need to gain size in a safe way. But you know me, Mike Mentzer style 😂

I'm very happy to hear that your goal of 6" MSEG is accomplished that's really amazing, and the longer flaccid really makes me curious, if not hanging is the best way to accomplish this longer flaccid hang?
- How long are your flaccid hang now? 10 Inch? 🤔

Because that was what you did for the majority of the time right?

If I don't remember incorrectly you sit in front of the computer every day and work, and then hanging is the most effective and logical way to do penis enlargement?

Maybe I need to seriously consider taking your advice now because something has to change... I can't continue to gain at this rate. It also speaks to the "new schoolers" approach to rest/decondition that I mentioned earlier. Just hoping to get more input from more people and their experiences.
Personally rest from time to time have been beneficial for me, sometimes that happen when I didn't want any rest, but was forced due to life circumstances.

I was at a "praktik" (don't know the English word) through my educational program, and after that rest (did like one LM3 session per week for 4 weeks). My BPEL value had shoot up. Maybe running around with a wrapped up fluid retention dick, had something to do with it. 😂
(getting into the cold outside, and not be able to remove the pel.wrap when inside and re-apply it immediately = fluid retention sometimes).

So I believe rest is highly important to incoperate into the penis enlargement program.
I believe 4 weeks is the most amount of rest you need, if you feel like you need that.
But during that rest I recommend that you incorporate a maintenance program, like light stretching with LENGTHMASTER 3. I recommend the beginner routine for this. Just to keep the Tunica albuginea loosen up, and your flaccid hang hanging. If you completely stop my belief is that, it will be harder to get back into bundled stretches. This was the case for me.

After I did this short video, my flaccid hang was much longer (didn't even held the stretches for 1 minute), so this can be a good way to keep the penis healthy during the rest period.
📹 LENGTHMASTER 3 - Beginner routine (follow link to video instruction).

or you can just do like BTC stretches at the bed lying down. I'm sure you know what to do. Sorry for explaining so much in details. I believe the more information we share and discuss, the faster will everyone gain.

Just trying to give feedback and trying to help.
Kind regards brother. Wish you well.
 
@MosMaster I don't really know what to say really. I'm sorry you haven't gained more.

But you probably know what I promote?

I 100% don't agree with this.


It's possible to gain fast constantly up to at least 10 Inch BPEL (+ 5 Inch), I'm sure of it (with the right program, and intensity).

And this is pure disinformation.

The reason this belief exist in the world of penis enlargement is that when brothers stop gaining, they want to blame their penis and not their program or strategy.

The key to not get stuck in a plateau is to increase the intensity progressively. The Tunica albuginea will not get stronger or tougher to stretch. It's penis tissue and it's supposed to be able to be ballooned up with blood in order support a strong erection. So I don't understand why this myth still exist? Imagine the Tunica Albuginea getting harder/strong as fuck, you wouldn't be able to have an erection?

But you need to be willing to stretch harder then you have ever stretched before, and you only need LENGTHMASTER 3, and this pel.wrap (🔗 My penis elongation wrap). The modifications I did to my LM3 I didn't do them for fun, I did them in order to be able to stretch insanely hard, and bundled more rotation and be able to stretch with the same angle of attack.

The thing is that I know for a fact that most brothers, are not stretching hard enough with LM3.

This is what is so frustrating to me, I gain like crazy and nobody are willing to follow my program. I don't say this to seam better in some way. It's just so frustrating when I know the possibilities. I want to set a new standard of the norm of what is possible.

I promote high intensity stretching, and then keeping the tissue expanded/elongated throughout the day. For me this is the most efficient way to gain. Why put multiple hours in, when you can get all the gains with active stretching for 20 min x 2 times/day (3 days on, 1 day off)? The key is to always keep your tissue elongated when you are not stretching actively.

The pel.wrap I have developed keeps the penis both elongated and expanded.

Everything I talked about in this post I have shared on the forum. You are free to follow it and you will be amazed on how fast you can gain length with my methods.

@MosMaster I believe you need higher intensity in short bursts in order to gain faster. The reverse Kegel while stretching is really important. As well as the healing part.

I'm just trying my best to help. Don't take this as criticism or something like that. I just want to help out.

Kind regards brothers


By the way, I will be less active on the forum now, I have so much to do outside of penis enlargement, so I need to set my priorities right.
Maybe strong af wasn't the right terminology to use but adaptation.
I spend less than 5 minutes doing manual bundled stretches before my routine now.
Before I was doing 40 total minutes of bundled stretches in a device with way more force AND wearing an ADS for 6-8 hours a day.
0 gains made.

So maybe you're right. It was my program. I was doing far too much.
Because 40 minutes bundled should have had my tunica broken down to the point where I should have been growing.

Like @huge-girth said. Everyone is different.
I tried the intense sessions and it only worked for a short while for me.
 
Maybe strong af wasn't the right terminology to use but adaptation.
I spend less than 5 minutes doing manual bundled stretches before my routine now.
Before I was doing 40 total minutes of bundled stretches in a device with way more force AND wearing an ADS for 6-8 hours a day.
0 gains made.

So maybe you're right. It was my program. I was doing far too much.
Because 40 minutes bundled should have had my tunica broken down to the point where I should have been growing.

Like @huge-girth said. Everyone is different.
I tried the intense sessions and it only worked for a short while for me.
Interestig. Yeah the programming is very important.
 
Believe me, the problem is with your EQ. I believe you have made gains but erection quality is poor. My last measurement was in June and I haven't measured since then. I notice my penis is thicker whenever I smoke so I will be smoking once it's time to to measure.

Yes I'm only doing girth now and I'm getting to realize that it's going to take longer to max out the pump than I thought. For this reason, I've stopped length work completely since May. I want to max out the pump I have. I'm giving myself 4 years to achieve it.

I've not measured length since 2020.
Thanks for your input.

What was your recent girth gain? Like what did you measure in June and what was your measurement date and stats when you measured before that?
 
8 weeks 100% off from any kind of training.
No pump, ads, hanging, etc.
The only action my dick was getting was sex and masturbation.

My frequency is 1 day on 1 day off.
I'm 74 days in rn doing that split and my dick is the healthiest it's ever been.
Insane EQ, longer flaccid after sessions, and I haven't even worn an ADS in like 5 months and I'm growing like a weed.

Again, it's different. I'm not saying you can't gain from the old school approach.
But for me I got to a point to where I needed a less demanding schedule so I could focus on other things than just my dick.

I've been off and on PE since high-school.
Like most just starting with manuals, jelqs, etc.

Didn't take it serious until I joined here like 16 months ago or something like that
Interesting

Do you do girth and length?

So no keeping it elongated after length work at all?
 
Thanks for your input.

What was your recent girth gain? Like what did you measure in June and what was your measurement date and stats when you measured before that?

Before I started on the 9th of January, I measured 5.5 inches mid shaft. By end of June, I measured again and saw 6 inches mid shaft. I've not measured since that time.
 
@MosMaster I don't really know what to say really. I'm sorry you haven't gained more.

But you probably know what I promote?

I 100% don't agree with this.


It's possible to gain fast constantly up to at least 10 Inch BPEL (+ 5 Inch), I'm sure of it (with the right program, and intensity).

And this is pure disinformation.

The reason this belief exist in the world of penis enlargement is that when brothers stop gaining, they want to blame their penis and not their program or strategy.

The key to not get stuck in a plateau is to increase the intensity progressively. The Tunica albuginea will not get stronger or tougher to stretch. It's penis tissue and it's supposed to be able to be ballooned up with blood in order support a strong erection. So I don't understand why this myth still exist? Imagine the Tunica Albuginea getting harder/strong as fuck, you wouldn't be able to have an erection?

But you need to be willing to stretch harder then you have ever stretched before, and you only need LENGTHMASTER 3, and this pel.wrap (🔗 My penis elongation wrap). The modifications I did to my LM3 I didn't do them for fun, I did them in order to be able to stretch insanely hard, and bundled more rotation and be able to stretch with the same angle of attack.

The thing is that I know for a fact that most brothers, are not stretching hard enough with LM3.

This is what is so frustrating to me, I gain like crazy and nobody are willing to follow my program. I don't say this to seam better in some way. It's just so frustrating when I know the possibilities. I want to set a new standard of the norm of what is possible.

I promote high intensity stretching, and then keeping the tissue expanded/elongated throughout the day. For me this is the most efficient way to gain. Why put multiple hours in, when you can get all the gains with active stretching for 20 min x 2 times/day (3 days on, 1 day off)? The key is to always keep your tissue elongated when you are not stretching actively.

The pel.wrap I have developed keeps the penis both elongated and expanded.

Everything I talked about in this post I have shared on the forum. You are free to follow it and you will be amazed on how fast you can gain length with my methods.

@MosMaster I believe you need higher intensity in short bursts in order to gain faster. The reverse Kegel while stretching is really important. As well as the healing part.

I'm just trying my best to help. Don't take this as criticism or something like that. I just want to help out.

Kind regards brothers


By the way, I will be less active on the forum now, I have so much to do outside of penis enlargement, so I need to set my priorities right.

I love your mindset and positive outlook and your willingness to always help!

But bro, at the same time we need to look at this objectively with our collective intelligence here...

I can imagine you have at least done as much research on PE as I have (if not more).

How many cases have you stumbled on where someone gained 5 inches? I only know 1. Before I found MOS I researched other forums and the consensus seems to usually be that gaining 1 inch is somewhat achievable for most, 2 inches is possible but needs a great amount of dedication and focus for a longer time and 3 inches a very few achieve with the utmost dedication for years. Not trying to limit anyone's mindset or goal here, I'm just trying to express what I have found from studying MANY cases on many different forums.

I've read countless old threads on MOS of people being in this game for 5, 10, 15 years or more who are still on their first inch gain, second or chasing their third. Yes, not everyone is as dedicated as others are. But some are very dedicated.

If I may take @huge-girth as an example, I believe he has been in this game well over 10 years by now and I believe he has gained just a bit over 2 inches. Yes, he has had some periods off and all. But this is also an example of the actual reality.

Yes, there are people who pop up on the forum and claim amazing gains like 1.5-2 inches in a very short time period (and yourself of course) and I believe them! But just how common is it really? When you're taking everything into account. And I would imagine that we who actually post on this forum and are active are a minority and the hidden statistics of all the lurkers are not even being noticed. I believe we who are active probably are the most dedicated and serious and that way gain the most, ultimately. So with that in mind, I believe people on average are actually gaining even less, if all this makes sense!

If we compare it to bodybuilding, some people achieve an amazing physique in their first year of training. And the next guy may have to work harder for 3-5 years to even come close because of their genetic makeup. There must be at least somewhat of a similar occurrence when it comes to PE in my mind. Super responders vs. hard gainers. If you take everything you know into account, doesn't that make sense?

I mean, from my perspective, it's just a little bit simplistic to say it's all about the intensity and the program. We all know the best practices and exercises and all the details around it and that we need to stretch as hard as we can just before actual sharp pain occurs.

Still, we gain very differently...

And if I can take @Tommy Gun as an example, if I'm not mixing him up with someone else, he is a very big strong jacked guy who has been into fitness for many many years. I would never believe he has a problem with intensity as well. And for myself, I'm also a pretty strong and big guy (and also been training with fatgripz for years so my grip strength are much stronger then the average. I fucking stretch all that I can. Sure, I CAN stretch a bit harder, but that would seriously risk injury.

And by the way, how can you be 100% sure that the tunica can't be hardened over time when hundreds and hundreds of people over many years have experienced this? I'm not trying to call you out here or anything like that. I'm just inviting a healthy debate on the above topics so we can all learn and avoid black-and-white thinking!

Keep in mind, this is just my thoughts/experiences. Would love to hear what you guys think about it!
 
As a beginner with the length master, the DLD Blasters is too advance for you. You will make gains with it but you will not use the length master to its full potential to make all the needed gains. You need to do the length master beginner routine for 30days after which, you can then proceed to downward bundled stretches. The downward bundled stretches should be done for a minimum of 3 months (90days).

I strongly advice you stop doing the DLD Blasters for now.

The DLD Blasters and Expressive stretching should be a last resort (Their major use is to break a plateau).
Without sounding inexperienced what’s this DLD Blasters we talk about is there a feed somewhere on this forum where I can understand what it means?
 
Interesting

Do you do girth and length?

So no keeping it elongated after length work at all?
I'm focused solely on length at the moment.

No ADS for Tommy Gun anymore.
No need to if you've achieved 2% post workout elongation.
Any more you're only making it harder to recover.

But I do 10 minutes of interval pumping at the end of my length sessions.
 
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And by the way, how can you be 100% sure that the tunica can't be hardened over time when hundreds and hundreds of people over many years have experienced this? I'm not trying to call you out here or anything like that. I'm just inviting a healthy debate on the above topics so we can all learn and avoid black-and-white thinking!
Thats what im saying!
Guys that have been doing P.E. the longest have strengthened their tunica to the point it needs serious time off and/or therapy to make it pliable for growth again.
Which I believe is a massive reason for stunted growth.
 
Everything you are mentioning are very wise brother, and worth to thinking about. I believe I was probably not thinking through it all before posting. I was only using my own experience as a reference point. This was kind of bad, and I may look like a dushbag for not considering all aspects of the problem at hand. I'm sorry for that. 😔

I love your mindset as well. You have teach me so much vulnerable information.

I don't know about the Tunica albuginea for sure, but you are probably correct about that. I supposed I only was using my own experiences when I wrote post #615 in this thread, that was not good at all. I suppose I need to be here 10 years to get more experiences about all this. I though this PE thing could be done in like 2 years time, but now I realize that this is a lifetime commitment. Somewhat happy I get to do PE rest of my life. Can you point me to other resources regarding PE other then Rddt. I do not like Rddt, there is so much negative energy there. I mentioned LENGTHMASTER once in one of the forums/pages. But they imminently removed it. But meanwhile they are mentioning other brand of devices back and forth constantly....very strange.

Now when I think about it. For me sometimes for sure my Tunica albuginea retracts a bit and gets "hard" (MOS RED helps with that after a session), but I only need like 1-3 days (mostly 1 day) of rest. Not exactly hard, but I feel in the tissue that my penis have had enough for a while. So maybe that is what everyone are talking about? Now when I think about it the rest period I had for 4 weeks may be proof of this. My penis needed rest to heal up completely, and after that period I was longer. Very insight information indeed. Haven't thought about this before.

If we compare it to bodybuilding, some people achieve an amazing physique in their first year of training. And the next guy may have to work harder for 3-5 years to even come close because of their genetic makeup. There must be at least somewhat of a similar occurrence when it comes to PE in my mind. Super responders vs. hard gainers. If you take everything you know into account, doesn't that make sense?

I mean, from my perspective, it's just a little bit simplistic to say it's all about the intensity and the program. We all know the best practices and exercises and all the details around it and that we need to stretch as hard as we can just before actual sharp pain occurs.

Still, we gain very differently...
You are correct about the strength training as well. I have been so focused on the video in the FAQ video thread (🎞 26. Why do Some Men Gain Faster than others in Penis Enlargement? ), that I didn't think about there could actually be a genetic aspects to how fast your body are allowing you to gain. Healing time and growth, and also genetic limitations but the long game can change your predisposition. But now when I think about it. It has to be that way. Genetics play 100% a role in this. There is some truth to the video in the FAQ video thread, but it's not the whole picture.

I was a skinny and weak dude when I was 15 years old. It took approximately 17 years for me to have the strength I have today.
We need to apply the same game into penis enlargement it's a long game.

How many cases have you stumbled on where someone gained 5 inches? I only know 1. Before I found MOS I researched other forums and the consensus seems to usually be that gaining 1 inch is somewhat achievable for most, 2 inches is possible but needs a great amount of dedication and focus for a longer time and 3 inches a very few achieve with the utmost dedication for years. Not trying to limit anyone's mindset or goal here, I'm just trying to express what I have found from studying MANY cases on many different forums.
Thanks for sharing this information.
I don't really know about this one, I suppose I wrote that 5 Inch was possible due to my own experiences and progression. But as I now have realized is that, the longer you become the harder it becomes to force the penis to grow longer.
I realize it was a big claim, and an unrealistic claim. I'm again sorry for implying that, it was a good thing you corrected my narrow point of view, and thinking. It looks like I talked about things that I didn't really had a full grasp on. But I want to believe it's possible, but it will take a lot of time => A lifetime. I'm very grateful/thankful that I got this information from you. I was blind to the reality of things.

I really starting to feel the "suck" in the grind now.

If I may take @huge-girth as an example, I believe he has been in this game well over 10 years by now and I believe he has gained just a bit over 2 inches. Yes, he has had some periods off and all. But this is also an example of the actual reality.
A very good example indeed.
Very honored to be amongst such legends in PE.
I believe he is one of the brothers that have helped most brothers here on MOS.

But just how common is it really? When you're taking everything into account.
I now don't believe it's common. My perspective on this was 100% out of whack.

Still, we gain very differently...
Indeed.
I 100% agree.

And if I can take @Tommy Gun as an example, if I'm not mixing him up with someone else, he is a very big strong jacked guy who has been into fitness for many many years. I would never believe he has a problem with intensity as well. And for myself, I'm also a pretty strong and big guy (and also been training with fatgripz for years so my grip strength are much stronger then the average. I fucking stretch all that I can. Sure, I CAN stretch a bit harder, but that would seriously risk injury.
No question about it. I don't question your abilities.
I think what was happening, was that I had a hard time to see everything from other perspectives. You can say I was stuck in a limiting paradigm (a box of thinking).

I'm just inviting a healthy debate on the above topics so we can all learn and avoid black-and-white thinking!
I'm happy for this approach. I want to keep myself open minded as much as possible. But I suppose sometimes you need someone to push you out of the "box of thinking"


I hope this cleared everything up. It's so easy to get stuck in the way we think.
Take care brothers.
 
Without sounding inexperienced what’s this DLD Blasters we talk about is there a feed somewhere on this forum where I can understand what it means?
Follow this link.
🔗 MOS DVD with all exercises (videos extracted).
There are many videos in that thread, so let all the videos fully load before trying to play them.
When the first frame in the video are showing, then they have fully loaded. When this happens you can press play.
 
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