Journey to better EQ and bigger penis

[Roamer]

Hello everyone, I got my pump a week ago and this is my 1st week update.

I am 16.3cm/6.4' in length and 14.3cm/5.6' in girth. My goal is mainly a better EQ, as I tend to not be able to maintain it for as logn as I'd like, and it's not always as hard as it can be. For secondary goals, my short term goal is to reach 7 inches in length, and 5.8 inches in girth. Long therm I might try to go even further, or stop there depending on how I feel at the time.

I'll try to keep this post updated whenever there's anything worth mentioning, but I wanted to mention a few things from my first week of pumping:

1. First off, the lube made all the difference. I am able to fit inside the tube much easier, which helps me maintain an erection inside it much better since there's no pain from friction anymore.
2. I still struggle with having a completely air tight seal. Even with the lube and shaving as close as possible, the vaccum still loses pressure if I don't keep pumping. I'm kinda at my wit's end on this one, I'm not sure what else I could do except keep pumping the whole time, which might get a bit tiring once I want to extend my sets to over 5-10 minutes.
3. Finally, I have gotten a few red dots on my skin. I know those are probably minor vessels that got injured, which I guess is normal, but I wanted to make sure with everyone before continuing normally. They appear on my shaft and under the foreskin for th emost part. I can post some pictures if it would help.

For now, and until I get used to it, I only pump for 5 minutes, in progressive sets of 3.5, 4 and 5 hg. I do this because it feels like after each set my penis gets desensitized to the vaccum, and I need to pump harder to get the same feeling as the last set. When at 5hg, my penis reaches a length of 6.7', or 17 cm. This used to be my size before P. Addiction, so I'm glad that it seems like I'll be able to regain it relatively quickly

Eventually I'll probably start adding jelqs between sets, but for now I don't want to complicate things.

Thank you for reading, and I'm looking forward to being a regular here!

 

[oldandlively]

Greetings brother.

Hello everyone, I got my pump a week ago and this is my 1st week update.

Which pump did you get?

I am 16.3cm/6.4' in length and 14.3cm/5.6' in girth. My goal is mainly a better EQ, as I tend to not be able to maintain it for as logn as I'd like, and it's not always as hard as it can be. For secondary goals, my short term goal is to reach 7 inches in length, and 5.8 inches in girth. Long therm I might try to go even further, or stop there depending on how I feel at the time.

Depending on the pump, we'll make sure to address your needs accordingly. EQ is primary and growth secondary.

I'll try to keep this post updated whenever there's anything worth mentioning, but I wanted to mention a few things from my first week of pumping:

1. First off, the lube made all the difference. I am able to fit inside the tube much easier, which helps me maintain an erection inside it much better since there's no pain from friction anymore.
2. I still struggle with having a completely air tight seal. Even with the lube and shaving as close as possible, the vaccum still loses pressure if I don't keep pumping. I'm kinda at my wit's end on this one, I'm not sure what else I could do except keep pumping the whole time, which might get a bit tiring once I want to extend my sets to over 5-10 minutes.
3. Finally, I have gotten a few red dots on my skin. I know those are probably minor vessels that got injured, which I guess is normal, but I wanted to make sure with everyone before continuing normally. They appear on my shaft and under the foreskin for th emost part. I can post some pictures if it would help.

I'm suspecting that the air tight seal may be cause due to the base of the cylinder is too large to have a perfect seal with your skin. If you have the MityVac, it should have a pump donut/sleeve that goes at the bottom of the cylinder. This promotes further sealing. Try that out first. If you have other pump, like a BathMate, it also has a separate pump donut that you can purchase on the side.

As for the red dots, those are capillaries being forced upon too hard, releasing a bit of blood that pools throughout the lower layers of your skin (the fascias). They will go away in time. Doing a bit of slow squash jelq and reverse jelq will also help. Aside from that, warm compression wrapping where you wrap your penis tightly with a bit of warm compress. Brothers also use coconut oil and Vit E to increase the amount of blood displacement and reaborption back to the body.

For now, and until I get used to it, I only pump for 5 minutes, in progressive sets of 3.5, 4 and 5 hg. I do this because it feels like after each set my penis gets desensitized to the vaccum, and I need to pump harder to get the same feeling as the last set. When at 5hg, my penis reaches a length of 6.7', or 17 cm. This used to be my size before P. Addiction, so I'm glad that it seems like I'll be able to regain it relatively quickly

Good starting point to start out for the next few weeks.

 

[Roamer]

Which pump did you get?

Hello! I got the MityVac 2'

Depending on the pump, we'll make sure to address your needs accordingly. EQ is primary and growth secondary.

Yes, absolutely! I suspect that improving my EQ will bring me quicker results to my size as well, as my size used to be a bit half an inch more than what it is now. After that, and after having some more experience, I'll start thinking about additional size gains!

I'm suspecting that the air tight seal may be cause due to the base of the cylinder is too large to have a perfect seal with your skin. If you have the MityVac - Wet and Dry Penis Vacuum Pump System, it should have a pump donut/sleeve that goes at the bottom of the cylinder.

I doubt it's too large, because I have trouble fitting inside without feeling like I'm pressing on one side of my penis. Before using lube it felt impossible to fit inside because of my curve, which is not big, but enough to feel like im filling it up.

As for the donut/sleeve I tried that my first time as well, to similar results. Moreover, it feels like my veins might pop when using it so I avoided it after the first time. I can give it another try in a couple of days though, now that I have a little more experience. I have not used any rings as of yet, because I'm not sure I understand the correct application, other than putting them on the moment I have a full erection and then start pumping. This however hurts a bit when I pump, so I have avoided it.

Thank you for the great recovery advice as well!

 

[oldandlively]

Hello! I got the MityVac 2'

Got it.

Yes, absolutely! I suspect that improving my EQ will bring me quicker results to my size as well, as my size used to be a bit half an inch more than what it is now. After that, and after having some more experience, I'll start thinking about additional size gains!

When you use the MityVac, even if you're not aiming for EQ, EQ will generally result from incremental size increase. It's like a side benefit on either side of the path that you're travelling on.

I doubt it's too large, because I have trouble fitting inside without feeling like I'm pressing on one side of my penis. Before using lube it felt impossible to fit inside because of my curve, which is not big, but enough to feel like im filling it up.

Sounds like a curvature friction hindering your insertion. Yes, the only way is lubrication. When your penis literally fill up after the pump, this is when you start to get a larger cylinder. An indicator it's getting too tight is when the base is competely filled to the point where you are having a hard time pulling the penis out. But, do use the cylinder's donut that comes with it to test out the pressure leak prevention.

As for the donut/sleeve I tried that my first time as well, to similar results. Moreover, it feels like my veins might pop when using it so I avoided it after the first time. I can give it another try in a couple of days though, now that I have a little more experience.

When the donut is causing discomfort because the donut hole is too small, this only a suggestion and approach it with your own intention to toss it away, cut the restrictive middle piece away. This allows the bottom piece to adhere to the skin and give away when needed.

Beside from cutting it, the next approach is the pelvic skin stretching and sealing. It's weird to say it, but the next trick is to fully push the cylinder down, BUT, gently pull the skin around the cylinder out of the cylinder, giving it a bit of a seal around the cylinder. The skin inside the cylinder area may be slightly stretched under pressure because of this, causing a bit of discomfort during higher pressure past 5inHg.

I have not used any rings as of yet, because I'm not sure I understand the correct application, other than putting them on the moment I have a full erection and then start pumping. This however hurts a bit when I pump, so I have avoided it.

If you have not use any ring yet, and the donut smaller diameter is causing you to have discomforts, don't use the rings yet. Not until you get used to the pump in full. That may be a few months down the road.

 

[Roamer]

But, do use the cylinder's donut that comes with it to test out the pressure leak prevention.

An update concerning this. I tried pumping with the donut today, I used lube so as to create as airtight a seal as possible, but it kept leaking again. The only way I can maintain a semi stable vaccum is by pumping non stop. It's doable, and not a terrible forearm exercise, but I imagine it's going to get tedious soon.

I tested the tube and handle/gauge, by detaching them from the cylinder and sealing them with my finger, and they seem to be fine, as there was no leakage there. The problem is either with the nipple on top of the cylinder, or the way I seal it at the bottom. I'll try sealing the nipple to make sure there's no problem there next time, and I'll see what I can do after that.

A funny thing is that when I got the pump, I tried water pumping to see if the leak would be better there. It wasn't, but there's still some water left inside the handle I guess, because the first pump of every session usually squirts a little on my face and catches me by surprise every time. It doesn't bother me, though, and I've read that it's no problem for water to get in there.

And finally, some good news: I don't know whether this is 100% because of the pumping or a placebo or what, but my girlfriend got me excited today when we were texting and I hadn't seen myself get this big in years. I measured myself at 17cm/6.7'', which has been the biggest I've measured myself, even going back to highschool! Whatever the reason is though, I was excited to say the least! Here's to hoping I can maintain these kinds of erections that give me an extra cm (and get even bigger ones)!

 

[ManPlan86]

An update concerning this. I tried pumping with the donut today, I used lube so as to create as airtight a seal as possible, but it kept leaking again. The only way I can maintain a semi stable vaccum is by pumping non stop. It's doable, and not a terrible forearm exercise, but I imagine it's going to get tedious soon.

I tested the tube and handle/gauge, by detaching them from the cylinder and sealing them with my finger, and they seem to be fine, as there was no leakage there. The problem is either with the nipple on top of the cylinder, or the way I seal it at the bottom. I'll try sealing the nipple to make sure there's no problem there next time, and I'll see what I can do after that.

Check the female fitting at the top of the cylinder, that is likely where you are losing vacuum pressure. Be careful not to over tighten and strip the threads, but I have had to finger tighten both my 1.75" and 2" cylinders when I first got them.

I'd recommend turn about 1/4 or 1/2 turn most at a time and then check your pressure.

Additionally, you may already be doing this, if you are air pumping ditch the water trap. If you are water pumping, make sure the black O-ring is fitted correctly on the trap so it compresses on the cap of the water trap when you tighten the lid.

 

[Roamer]

Check the female fitting at the top of the cylinder, that is likely where you are losing vacuum pressure. Be careful not to over tighten and strip the threads, but I have had to finger tighten both my 1.75" and 2" cylinders when I first got them.

I'd recommend turn about 1/4 or 1/2 turn most at a time and then check your pressure.

Thank you! I'll try this for sure! It really doesnt make sense that it's anything else at this point, but we'll see.

Additionally, you may already be doing this, if you are air pumping ditch the water trap. If you are water pumping, make sure the black O-ring is fitted correctly on the trap so it compresses on the cap of the water trap when you tighten the lid.

I only tried water pumping once, and I don't think it's for me. It was a bit of a hassle. I haven't used the water trap since then so I'm good on this front.

 

[oldandlively]

I was about to suggest the same thing as brother ManPlan86, but was in a meeting. My suggestion is to do a leak detection using air only while under water. So, have yourself a nice bath, or just a quick submerge, using only air to pump. The moment you see what intrusion in any of the valves, connections, or contact points, you'll see water ponding. Make sure to keep the trigger pump out of the water.

 

[Roamer]

Thank you @ManPlan86 and @oldandlively for the tightening advice! I just finished with a session and that fixed it. I was finally able to maintain a airtight seal after tightening it a bit.

This session felt a lot more intense now that I could maintain the vacuum and didn't need to keep pumping. I also tried to increase the intensity/duration a bit, so I tried 4hg for 7/5hg for 10/ 5.1 hg for 12.

I think I need to start coming up with a better way to adjust my intensity though because at this point I'm goign completely based on how I feel. This time there was no pain other than mild skin stretching, but the skin near the hole of my penis did get a little bit swollen. I didn't feel like it was too much during the workout but maybe I got carried away.

 

[ManPlan86]

Thank you @ManPlan86 and @oldandlively for the tightening advice! I just finished with a session and that fixed it. I was finally able to maintain a airtight seal after tightening it a bit.

This session felt a lot more intense now that I could maintain the vacuum and didn't need to keep pumping. I also tried to increase the intensity/duration a bit, so I tried 4hg for 7/5hg for 10/ 5.1 hg for 12.

I think I need to start coming up with a better way to adjust my intensity though because at this point I'm goign completely based on how I feel. This time there was no pain other than mild skin stretching, but the skin near the hole of my penis did get a little bit swollen. I didn't feel like it was too much during the workout but maybe I got carried away.

Glad tightening up the check valve solved your vacuum issues.

If I am reading you intensity/duration correctly, did you pump for 7, 10 and 12 minute sets?

If so, that may be a little too long at vaccum and causing some fluid to build up at the tip of your penis. I would strongly recommend the 5x5x3 starting out. It provides the great intensity and will help you create a really solid pumping routine, with air or water pumping.

Pushing Hg to higher limits is not an issue as long as you are safe and do it over a couple weeks to a month. Meaning find the Hg that feels a good expansion without pain or fluid retention under the skin and hold that as your top Hg for a couple weeks to condition yourself. After a couple weeks, push higher by 1 more Hg.

 

[Roamer]

Glad tightening up the check valve solved your vacuum issues.

If I am reading you intensity/duration correctly, did you pump for 7, 10 and 12 minute sets?

If so, that may be a little too long at vaccum and causing some fluid to build up at the tip of your penis. I would strongly recommend the 5x5x3 starting out. It provides the great intensity and will help you create a really solid pumping routine, with air or water pumping.

Pushing Hg to higher limits is not an issue as long as you are safe and do it over a couple weeks to a month. Meaning find the Hg that feels a good expansion without pain or fluid retention under the skin and hold that as your top Hg for a couple weeks to condition yourself. After a couple weeks, push higher by 1 more Hg.

Yes, you are reading it correctly. I will try to limit myself to 5 minute sets for now, although to be honest I felt the expansion a lot more after 7-8 minutes. Should I build up the duration as well after some point, or remain at 5 minutes indefinitely?

As for the fluid, it doesn't hurt so I probably didn't overdo it by too much, thankfully. I will let it get back to normal and continue my workouts like you recommended after.

And thank you for the Hg progression advice, that was exactly what I was looking for!

 

[oldandlively]

Yes, you are reading it correctly. I will try to limit myself to 5 minute sets for now, although to be honest I felt the expansion a lot more after 7-8 minutes. Should I build up the duration as well after some point, or remain at 5 minutes indefinitely?

There are two kinds of expansion.

The first is the false expansion, where fluid is being pulled to the layers of the penile skin, which are the fascias. This is where you don't want. The more fluid in the skin, the skin does get darken as the components from the body fluid get deposited in the skin. This causes an expedited level of discoloration, or darken penile skin. We call this either donut penis or fluid retention. It's not good for your skin, nor it's harmful. Just not the expansion we're looking for.

The second is the proper expansion. There may be some fluid retention but very minimal. The expansion is all based on the internal expansion. Your penis feels heavier, flaccid state looks elongated like you erectile state, and the largeness remains longer. This is true expansion. This is why DLD and the brothers of old experimented the 5x5x3 (5 minutes and less for pumping and never more) to achieve this. It's better to have more time put into the slow squash jelq (SSJ) than the pumping time per set. Always remain less than 5 minutes to prevent fluid buildup.

As for the fluid, it doesn't hurt so I probably didn't overdo it by too much, thankfully. I will let it get back to normal and continue my workouts like you recommended after.

It may not hurt, but in due time, the expansion of the skin causes more movement of the foreskin, creating more issues with the lengthening routines down the road.

And thank you for the Hg progression advice, that was exactly what I was looking for!

Listen to the brothers that have gone through their journeys. Best to listen to their mistakes than to experience them for yourself.

 

[Roamer]

I got it, thanks a lot for the advice @oldandlively . I will trust the process and try to take it easy.

The kind of expansion I was reffering to was a feeling of my penis being stretched, it's weird to describe but I still feel the same feeling you would feel after stretching your muscles, where they feel a little sensitive.

Nonetheless, its 5x5x3 for me from now on, and I'll consider myself lucky I didn't cause any damage, and avoid repeating this again.

Since I've solved the seal issue which was my main concern, I'll probably take some time before I update this post again so as not to flood the forum, and come back once I have news, or questions!

 

[oldandlively]

The kind of expansion I was reffering to was a feeling of my penis being stretched, it's weird to describe but I still feel the same feeling you would feel after stretching your muscles, where they feel a little sensitive.

That is called fatigues. That's what you want to get to, condition with, and further push through once the fatigue is adapted by the penis. This means you can go high, more intense, and reaching greater growth potential.

Nonetheless, its 5x5x3 for me from now on, and I'll consider myself lucky I didn't cause any damage, and avoid repeating this again.

Yep. Stay away from the major fluid retention. There's a quick way to get rid of it, but shouldn't get there in the first place.

Since I've solved the seal issue which was my main concern, I'll probably take some time before I update this post again so as not to flood the forum, and come back once I have news, or questions!

Questions are insights to answers. The same question can be asked, but there are subset of insights to the same question being asked in the same sentence. We don't limit the questioning because there are values to those unique subset of insights within the questioning sentence. Never stop asking. However, look through the prior questions and answer first on the search. Because what you are experience may already have at least a dozen of unique scenarios that you want to arm your knowledge in PE with.

 

[Roamer]

I have implemented some changes that I got recommended to help with my EQ. Mainly, I no longer use naked people movies to get an erection for pumping, and I'm instead using non nude pictures. Ideally, I'll make it a no stimuli thing, but without any assistance, I can't pump because I don't get hard enough.

I have also started to implement SSJs between my sets, but there I am facing a problem. I'm not sure if it's supposed to be like that, but the moment I release the vacuum my penis gets semi soft, about 30-40% hardness. I try to remain stimulated while pumping but I can't seem to maintain an erection after the vacuum is gone. Is that normal, and do I need a ring to fix it, or can i train myself to stay erect somehow? As it is now, I have to spend some time after my set to regain my erection for jelqing.

 

[huge-girth]

I have implemented some changes that I got recommended to help with my EQ. Mainly, I no longer use naked people movies to get an erection for pumping, and I'm instead using non nude pictures. Ideally, I'll make it a no stimuli thing, but without any assistance, I can't pump because I don't get hard enough.

I have also started to implement SSJs between my sets, but there I am facing a problem. I'm not sure if it's supposed to be like that, but the moment I release the vacuum my penis gets semi soft, about 30-40% hardness. I try to remain stimulated while pumping but I can't seem to maintain an erection after the vacuum is gone. Is that normal, and do I need a ring to fix it, or can i train myself to stay erect somehow? As it is now, I have to spend some time after my set to regain my erection for jelqing.

Are you taking Viagra before your pumping session? That should help the situation.

 

[ManPlan86]

I have implemented some changes that I got recommended to help with my EQ. Mainly, I no longer use naked people movies to get an erection for pumping, and I'm instead using non nude pictures. Ideally, I'll make it a no stimuli thing, but without any assistance, I can't pump because I don't get hard enough.

I have also started to implement SSJs between my sets, but there I am facing a problem. I'm not sure if it's supposed to be like that, but the moment I release the vacuum my penis gets semi soft, about 30-40% hardness. I try to remain stimulated while pumping but I can't seem to maintain an erection after the vacuum is gone. Is that normal, and do I need a ring to fix it, or can i train myself to stay erect somehow? As it is now, I have to spend some time after my set to regain my erection for jelqing.

I have the same issue staying fully hard after a set, and it does take some manual stimulation to get back to even 60-80% most of the time for me.

Personally, I find just trying to get some more blood flowing by shaking my penis around a little or massaging a bit on the head and around my base helps. Also, I do my routine in front of my bathroom mirror and sometimes just checking out my nice pumped flaccid is enough mental motivation to get a little harder.

I could be off a bit, but when I think about a normal state of how long an erection lasts if I were to be having sex, I would love to maintain it for 30-45 minutes with sexual activity and stimulation, but that's not my reality yet... Pumping is time to work on that and to improve EQ, so if I cant do 30-45 minutes yet in sex, I'm not to hard on myself (pun intended) if I lose a bit of erection quality during pumping because that is what I am pumping for to begin with.

Hope that makes sense, and just keep the focus and you will build up the stamina.

 

[Roamer]

Are you taking Viagra before your pumping session? That should help the situation.

I am not. I read some people do it, but I do have a few concerns of starting to rely on it, or known medical side effects with common use. I don't want to sound negative, but the practice does worry me a bit.

 

[Roamer]

I have the same issue staying fully hard after a set, and it does take some manual stimulation to get back to even 60-80% most of the time for me.

Personally, I find just trying to get some more blood flowing by shaking my penis around a little or massaging a bit on the head and around my base helps. Also, I do my routine in front of my bathroom mirror and sometimes just checking out my nice pumped flaccid is enough mental motivation to get a little harder.

I could be off a bit, but when I think about a normal state of how long an erection lasts if I were to be having sex, I would love to maintain it for 30-45 minutes with sexual activity and stimulation, but that's not my reality yet... Pumping is time to work on that and to improve EQ, so if I cant do 30-45 minutes yet in sex, I'm not to hard on myself (pun intended) if I lose a bit of erection quality during pumping because that is what I am pumping for to begin with.

Hope that makes sense, and just keep the focus and you will build up the stamina.

That's interesting. I only pump for 5 minutes, and I'd expect to be able to maintain my erection for that long in a pump, but I guess it's more complicated than that. I wonder if it's a vacuum thing or a me thing.

 

[oldandlively]

I am not. I read some people do it, but I do have a few concerns of starting to rely on it, or known medical side effects with common use. I don't want to sound negative, but the practice does worry me a bit.

You can use a ring that is not constrictive (holding onto blood and not allow it to flow back out). Use a loose and restrictive ring. It may take a few tries to find the right ring size that is around 70% restrictive.