I Need to Learn how to Fight

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Unfortunately, I've had a lot of social problems lately that have led to me getting jumped on several occasions. I've managed to win every situation without taking a hard punch, but I left all of those situations feeling very nervous. I've also been avoiding parties completely, and I'm very nervous in public places, because the people I've had problems with have lots of friends. I don't have any close friends who would have my back in a fight. Instead, I'd like to get very good at fighting so I can feel comfortable in any situation I'm in, even if some kids have weapons.
When I was younger I did martial arts for a while, so I have a good set of instincts and already have some fundamentals to work from. I also lift weights on a regular basis, although this is something I think I should get more serious about. My problem is that I'm not entirely sure where to start. I have some idea of the basic styles, but no clue about what works the best in an actual combat situation. If anyone has been through this situation and knows what I'm dealing with, I'd appreciate any advice.
 
Learn MMA...that UFC stuff. Don't waste your time on anything esle. If you cant find a pure MMA school around you, take up boxing and some sort of grappling.
 
Thanks for the help so far. I've considered light boxing, but I need to absolutely avoid any training that kill brain cells. I don't care about the pain or broken bones I, but I'm very concerned about getting a concussion because I've put so much effort into developing my mind.
 
"After learning Krav Maga, I feel like I'm doing a disservice to my students who want an effective self defense system by continuing to teach them traditional martial arts."

Chet Barnett
ATA Black Belt Academy
Ft. Collins, Colorado

"I am very excited about learning and teaching Krav Maga techniques. It has made me realize how ineffectively a traditional martial art system prepares you for real life."

Denise Balnoschan
Dublin Taekwondo
Dublin, Ohio
 
I have to back up my man there, go for MMA,
strikers always lose to all round MMA fighters

Back that up with throat slashing and ball kicking plus some eye poking and your a true street fighter
 
a problem with certain martial arts is that you have to train for a long time to be any good at using them in a street situation. like if someone went to punch you and you think to try out this "awesome" move you learned, then it would probably go tits up...i trained kick boxing for a while (stopped because of uni work :( ) and you can use it as soon as you learn to kick and punch properly. some clubs also teach grapling and weapons. its not the best defensive martial art, but sometimes the best defense is to have a good offense. boxing is also really good, although you do take smacks to the head in training....
at the end of the day most guys will try to hit you as hard as they can with the first punch, all you need to do is avoid that one, and lay in with fast little jabs (then maybe a kick to the head :D)
 
In a fight you are either...

In the free standing phase (not together physically, but are able to exchange kicks and punches, headbutts ect)

In the clinch phase( someones grabbing onto you, or vice versa, and you can exchange knees, punches, eventually take them down)

Or you are in the ground phase (hes on top of you, or you are on top of him...exchanging blows or whatever).

I suggest you find something that trains each of these phases and mixes them together (MMA...) to be a well rounded fighter. Not only that, but it will get you in great shape and make you feel like a new person over all.

If this were Dragon ball Z there would be an air phase, (both are flying in the air and fighting). However, this is impossible at the moment.
 
Bas Ruten is pretty hilarious (and deadly rofl )...

I just read the original post on the thread by spinner (neglected to read it the first round somehow). What the hell did you do to get these people all so pissed at you they want to kick your ass everywhere you go? I think a better way outta this situation would be to use your head man; having to look behind your back, prepared to fight all the time is no way to live.. You should probably invest in some kickboxing/ grappling classes, but you really should be looking for a way out of this situation dude, sounds dangerous. All it takes is one solid sucker punch you dont see coming and its lights out- then whats gonna happen to you?
 
MMA is a competive sport, not street fighting. The type of grappling you see in the octagon never happens in real life. Besides, most of those guys have years and years of experience in at least one martial art or sport. Are those guys in MMA badasses? Of course. It's also completely impractial for the average person.

Krav Maga is the only martial art based around real life situations and crippling your opponents as quickly as possible. With some minor training a cane becomes a legal stick of death.

"In Krav Maga, there are no hard-and-fast rules. It is not a sport, and there are no competitions. All the techniques focus on maximum efficiency in real-life conditions. Krav Maga generally assumes a no quarter situation; the attacks and defenses are intended to inflict the most pain possible on the opponent. Groin strikes, headbutts, and other efficient and potentially brutal attacks are emphasized.

The guiding principles for those performing Krav Maga techniques are:

neutralize the threat

avoid injury

go from defending to attacking as quickly as possible

use the body's natural reflexes

strike at any vulnerable point

use any tool or object nearby

The basic idea is to first deal with the immediate threat (being choked, for example), prevent the attacker from re-attacking, and then neutralize the attacker, proceeding through all steps in a straightforward manner, despite the rush of adrenaline that occurs in such an attack. The emphasis is put on taking the initiative from the attacker as soon as possible."

Although Krav Maga shares many techniques with other martial arts, such as Boxing, Savate and Muay Thai (for the punches, kicks, elbows and knees) or Ju-Jitsu, Judo and Wrestling (for the grappling and disarming techniques), the training is often quite different. It stresses fighting under worst-case conditions (for example, against several opponents, when protecting someone else, with one arm unusable, when dizzy, or against armed opponents).

Krav Maga is the official system of hand-to-hand combat and self-defense employed by the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF), Security Forces, the Israeli Police and Military Police and its Special Operations and Anti-Terrorist Units. The IDF including their Special Forces Units, Israeli Police, and Internal Security Branches currently uses this style on a day-to-day basis.

In the United states, personnel from various Federal, State and Local Law Enforcement agencies and Military units around the world have received training in Krav Maga, including: the Federal Bureau of Investigation, AFOSI Anti-terrorism Specialty Team, United States Marine Corps, United States Marshals Service, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, Drug Enforcement Administration Arrest and Control Unit, U.S. Treasury Department, Immigration and Naturalization Service, State Department, Central Intelligence Agency, several divisions of the U.S. Coast Guard, and police and sheriff's offices in New York, Illinois, Texas, Alabama, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, California, and Maryland. In addition to the Special Operations Forces of Israel (i.e. Sayeret Matkal, YAMAM, etc.), several special units from other countries have adopted this system for their hand-to-hand combat. These units include GIGN, FBI HRT, and SWAT, among others."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krav_maga
 
spinner2 said:
Thanks for the help so far. I've considered light boxing, but I need to absolutely avoid any training that kill brain cells. I don't care about the pain or broken bones I, but I'm very concerned about getting a concussion because I've put so much effort into developing my mind.
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i've gotten into many concussions, even had one durring karate class (and sadly it wasnt from getting hit too hard by another student, i had a close encounter with a fire extinguisher) haha. the spare gear was in a container on the ground and i lifted up my head to meet up witht he well placed extinguisher, i knocked it off the wall and it crashed on the ground.

but anyways, consussions don't make you severely retarded or anything, to me they just made me nauscious and dizzy.

but back to the fighting topic. it sounds like you have a good situation going on. you have the same thing as me, a basic martial arts background and keep in physical shape. it's ok to be nervus durring a situation, be it one on one or multiple versus you. it helps keep you on your toes, like you said you won all the fights right? that's what matters. however if you want to be more comfortable i would suggest start up your training again, either go to a formal school or just review what you know on your own and visualize the opponent. make sure that the opponent is varried and throws you for a loop. this is good for boxing, kick boxing, but not so much for grappeling (obvioiusly) i'm poor, so the shadow boxing thing is what i try to do, i mean i COULD start some fights and try to see what i know, but that's just retarded. i know i'm fine when my friends and i "play fight", they would mainly test me by pretending to throw a punch (or actually doing it) and see what i do. so i know i could whoop any one of their asses. ha.

personally, i find that the visual of the enemy is a good way to get yourself used to the different situations if you're not able to spar or get in a fight.
 
Competition sport fighting (MMA) and street fighting are not the same thing. I have spent time training with karate, taekwondoe, and boxing and spent considerable time pumpin' weights in the gym.

I've had my ass kicked incredibly bad on the street (bar fights) and I've won some as well.

I've learned some along the way as well. Fighting is'nt as glamorous as movies and TV make it out to be.

Competitive fighting is great for the athleticism and skill involved but street fighting involves uncontrolled violence and other situations such as being outnumbered, sucker punched, stabbed.....

Death is a very real possibility of street fighting.

Learn to be a "cooler" and avoid the situations that may spiral into violence. It does'nt mean you are a pussy or a wimp, it means you are a man, with intelligance, rational and respect.

"He who does'nt fight but walks away, lives to walk another day"
 
I think the most practical thing to do(for me anyway), is to build up your leg muscles big time and get in good running shape for good endurance. People usually don't expect someone to have really strong legs and be good at kicking, but kicking is deadly, especially when you can push over 300 lbs of force with one leg.

I'm sure if I got a good shot at a guy's rib cage and I had a nicely thrown sidekick, a few of his ribs would be broken and his lung would probably collapse.

I used to do most taekwondoe with some ju jitsu when I was younger(up until 13 years old). I'd recommend ju jitsu because it is very fast and all grappling. However, I'd say for my body type, kickboxing is the best option for me. As my legs are quite long and very strong.

Luckily I haven't been in a real fight since the 6th grade, but I'm always "ready" if need be. I'm pretty sure I'd just use my legs on people the whole time and after a good hit or two they'd be out cold, probably with broken ribs. I think what has helped me stay out of fights is my size, also. I'm not a puny looking guy by any means. If I were someone else I wouldn't want to fight me. I think carrying myself with confidence everywhere I go would make other guys back down, too.
 
I box and kickbox and have competed in both sports.
My advice to you is to find the closest PAL. It is a great place to learn to fight, it is cheap if not free,( might be like a 20$ fee er something) and their is always sparring which is very good for learning to deal with butterflys and letting your hands go.
If you could afford find a private instructer for padwork and learn fundimentals.
Obviously don't hang around your foes, and if your gonna, get someone whos down to fight for you and consult a plan with him, a specific plan when the beef shall start.
 
I don't think martial arts classes are the best course of action. I've visited all of the martial arts places around my town and absolutely none are going to prepare me for a real fight. Some of the links here looked really good, but unfortunately none are close enough for me to attend right now; I just don't have enough time for travel.
I think some ground work will be worth it, and some sparring. I can find some partners for this in a month when college starts up again. I had one of those punching bags before that stood on the ground, but I hit it too hard so the base broke.
In the meantime I've decided to just lay low and watch my back. Some kids are after me, and it's just a no-win situation if I see them. Even if I win a fight again, they'll be after my blood. They also know where I live and where my family lives, which is even worse. In the meantime I guess I'll just hang out with some girls to keep myself occupied and meditate a lot.
 
Krav Maga is probably the closest thing that translates into what you're looking for, particularly if weapons situations come about (don't be stupid--always run from a weapon, unless it's absolutely impossible). The problem with any of that stuff is you can't start it tomorrow and be any good at it next week. Maybe in six months you can be pretty good, if you've got talent and you work hard, but not overnight.

As for the concerns of brain damage, protective gear should minimize the risk of that to begin with. Also, brain damage is most noticeable in boxers that have done this stuff against the best of the best for many years, as a career. Brain damage potential is also considerably magnified by the fact that these fighters go into the fights somewhat dehydrated, from cutting weight, which reduces the fluid around the brain and causes more direct impact. Bottom line is I wouldn't worry at all about it, in your situation.
 
If things are really out of control, you might want to think about purchasing a weapon, preferrably a handgun. If it's really as bad as it sounds you should carry a gat with you all the time. Best bet other than that is just to avoid them for a long time.

If these do get to guns, I'd recommend not killing them but just shooting their leg or something. It sounds like you're in a horrible situation, and usually the only way out of a bad situation like that is through force.
 
No way I'm getting a gun or moving. I severely doubt that any weapons will be used on me. Maybe if someone tried jumping me again and I humiliated them, but definitely not now. I found out they should be leaving town within 2 months, and maybe a bit sooner, since they aren't from around here. With a little luck I can ride it out and avoid running into them.
 
Dude cmon- give it up for us (me)... What the hell did you do to these guys, who are they, and why do they wanna kick your ass so bad? Im really curious now.
 
Nothing...just some assholes who wanted to exert some dominance over me, and I'm too sick of being pushed to stand for it. Kid sucker punched me in the balls from out of nowhere while I was talking to some chick, so I threw him on the ground a few times. Everything just escalated from there, and that's all there was to it. If it were a little more meaningful I might have the motivation to hunt kids down, but it's not. As far as I'm concerned if I don't get along with someone then that should be that. Even if I'm way better at fighting, these kids are borderline retarded and have nothing to lose. My mind is my future and I don't want to risk it on something as trivial as this.
 
spinner2 said:
Nothing...just some assholes who wanted to exert some dominance over me, and I'm too sick of being pushed to stand for it. Kid sucker punched me in the balls from out of nowhere while I was talking to some chick, so I threw him on the ground a few times. Everything just escalated from there, and that's all there was to it. If it were a little more meaningful I might have the motivation to hunt kids down, but it's not. As far as I'm concerned if I don't get along with someone then that should be that. Even if I'm way better at fighting, these kids are borderline retarded and have nothing to lose. My mind is my future and I don't want to risk it on something as trivial as this.
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Damn, that's a bitch move. Sucker punch IN THE BALLS, wow. I guess some people really have no respect.
 
Yeah, I heard Krav Maga is really good. There aren't any around my location so I can't go, but I bought a book and seen a thing about it on the disocovery channel. And those bastards know how to fight.
 
spinner, I'm glad to hear you talking some sence. It's best to avoid the potential situation if possible. It sounds like you are dealing with a group and that means trouble. I know some times unfortunately it is impossible to avoid but try your best.

I had a friend that was killed a few years ago at a house party. My friend liked fighting and would instigate many fights. This time it escalated out of control and the fight went from one on one to him being beaten to death by a baseball bat by a group of attackers.

I've seen some horrible stuff happen in fights and hope I am never in another.

I've been stabbed, knocked out cold against a light pole for 10 minutes while having my face beaten in so badly my grandparents could hardly recognize me. I've been jumped by 4 guys while fighting one of there friends, after I smashed him over the head with a bar stool.

I know of 3 cases of people dying from broken blood vessels in the brain from one punch fights.

This is all stuff that could happen to anyone, including the toughest MMA fighters out there. Street fighting is violence, you are literally fighting for you life. And what happens if you hit the guy and he falls over backwards hitting the back of his head of the bumper of a car and dies. It happened in my town of 6000 people. Do you want to go up on manslaughter or murder chargers.

Sure these are all remote possibilites but they are realities. I don't know you from shit but I'm just passing on some of lifes lessons I've learned along my journey.
 
spinner2 said:
Nothing...just some assholes who wanted to exert some dominance over me, and I'm too sick of being pushed to stand for it. Kid sucker punched me in the balls from out of nowhere while I was talking to some chick, so I threw him on the ground a few times. Everything just escalated from there, and that's all there was to it. If it were a little more meaningful I might have the motivation to hunt kids down, but it's not. As far as I'm concerned if I don't get along with someone then that should be that. Even if I'm way better at fighting, these kids are borderline retarded and have nothing to lose. My mind is my future and I don't want to risk it on something as trivial as this.
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Spinner this is an interesting thread and something that interests me personally. The problem with young men is they have these feelings inside them and society provides no channel for there natural aggression. The truth is these kids are terrified of being the victim of other people like them so they figure they will mask this fear by putting on the tough guy act in hope that others like them will see a fearless hard man who they wouldn't want to mess with. This is in 99% of cases is the same old story, intimidation is a very effective weapon and these people think well I am scared of him because he displays any number of the following characteristics; aggressive manner, fearless, shaved head, physically big and imposing, has beaten people up (usually some poor skinny kid that had no chance and did nothing wrong) so if I do the same I will not be the poor skinny kid but the one doing it. So they take the initiative which is where your story comes in. The dominance they tried to exert over you comes from how dis empowered they feel and it is no coincidence that you got the better of this kid.
It's a difficult situation because as you say they have nothing to lose however you must give them a chance. I would suggest approaching the kid who sucker punched you in a non confrontational way. When you speak to him say something like "I don't know why you punched me but I was pissed off at the time and that's why I threw you to the ground, as far as I am concerned that's the end of it and I don't want any more trouble" and attempt to shake his hand as a final gesture. I know this sounds a bit idealistic but you have to give people a chance and he may jump at the opportunity to take this way out of the situation as he may not want it any more than you do deep down inside. So initially try and appeal to his better nature (believe it or not most people do have one somewhere inside of them)and put thoughts of revenge out of your head, there is a saying when you go looking for revenge make sure you dig 2 graves. Now I am not that naive to believe that this works every time as if he is a really nasty piece of work and not just misguided and he believes that you are an easy target he may not want peace. So the next step is to get help, now what I am going to say here is will probably go against the grain for a lot of people but it is the truth. If there really is no one you can turn to then the police could be your last resort. You have a right to live without fear of violence and intimidation however the people that do this have created this code to protect there bullying ways, because they are bully's and cowards they fear the authorities so have invented this bullshit code which only suits there needs that if you snitch or grass you are the lowest form of life. Once you can see past this and realise this is only because of how scared they really are swallow your pride and get help.
Ok so that is the course of action I would suggest for you but I fully acknowledge that there are times in your life that you need to fight. I will attempt to give you the benefit of my experience for what it is worth. I am a professional boxer who has done martial arts in the past and was head doorman at a notorious nightclub full of drunken soldiers and gypsies who liked nothing better than a good punch up on a Saturday night. So although I am no Royce Gracie I have some experience. So if you find yourself in a position where there is no choice but to fight this is what I would recommend: As for fighting systems any system where it is full contact i.e. boxing, kick boxing, MMA is the best option, the only way you get good at something is by doing it and although they do not fully recreate a streetfight situation they are the closest you will get. The hotter the fire the stronger the technique will be forged. I know you don't want to lose brain cells as you put it but you have to box for years and years and have hundreds of fights before you become punch drunk. You really don't have to worry about it affecting your mental performance. I wouldn't advise anyone who was serious about learning to fight to go to non-contact martial arts classes. I have the greatest respect for the martial arts but they are so diluted now due to them being taught mainly for health and recreation benefits. For example the Karate taught at your local dojo will be very different from the Karate developed in Okinawa years ago when there techniques were forged in combat and if it didn't work they rarely got the chance to correct it. The same is true of Kung Fu systems there is no comparison to what we see today in local schools to the Kung Fu of the Shaolin monks centuries ago. To summarise a good streetfighter I think the best assets are boxing due to the range that fights normally start at, low kicks and leg sweeps excellent for a opponent advancing at you from a distance and grappling including arm bars, locks, choke holds, biting and gouging. Remember it is no holds barred and we had a saying when I was working on the door that it is better to be judged by twelve than carried by six so don't hold back. There is so much more I want to say but can't remember as my kids are now bugging me to come and play with them but I wish you the best of luck in your situation and remember you do your best to avoid trouble but when it finds you be ready to fight with everything you have, good luck mate.
 
Bro, i've been involved in some form of martial arts my whole life... my dad felt that a man should always be able to defend himself so he encouraged me to take up any martial art that i wanted. I started with boxing and Tae Kwon Do, then moved to Shotokan, kenpo, kali/JKD, muay thai, and finally BJJ from Royce Gracie. I was/am very fortunate that SoCal has such a HUGE and diverse martial arts community. I have many friend that train in just about every art.

My personal opinion is that the fastest track to self-defense is boxing. It won't make you a MMA fighter or a Bruce Lee overnight but it will allow you to develop basic skill is a matter of weeks.

As far as arts like Krav Maga goes... they offer very real and practical techniques but i'm seeing that Krav Maga practioners have a certain cockiness about them. They feel that their way is the best.... trust me when i say that THERE IS NO BEST WAY. Techniques performed against static attacks only serves to give you a false sense of confidence and will get you hurt in a real confromtation, especially if/when weapons are involved. In the 80's and early 90's, Kung Fu San Soo had a very similar attitude as Krav Maga does today. They felt that their techniques were so brutal and effective that they couldn't train and full speed and power or risk killing each other... what a croc!! What they failed to grasp is that real fighting is more than just doing a technique... my $.02
 
FYI, I'm not a Krav Maga practitioner. I wish I had the time for martial arts. <:( I recommend it to people who are scared for their saftey because it dosen't necessarily require the athleticism of other martial arts, does not rely on perfect form, and stresses ending conflict as quickly as possible. I think this is what makes it most suited for the *average* person.
 
I hear ya Bruticus... i have nothing against systems like Krav Maga, i was just voicing a concern that people need to keep in mind about the martial arts and self-defense in general. There is no easy way to self defense... how you react in a stress situation like a fight or an attack will greatly depend on how you train. The more realistic and brutal the training, the better prepared you will be. From what i've seem of systems like Krav Maga is that they train against static attacks... this is a good way to learn basic movements but is an extremely poor way of training someone to defend agains real-world attacks since nothing in the real world is static.

In the mid 90's, i had a friend that used to teach rape prevention/defense classes where i used to assist... most of the time, the classes were held at a local college campus. What we did was teach women very basic movements and put them in extremely stressful real-world attack situations where we would take them down and forced them to fight their way out. We yelled at them and threatened them and would not relent until they either broke down or fought their way free. We put them in a cruciable and in situations where they felt their lives were in danger and taught them that they had to reach inside themselves to release their inner beast if they expected to survive. Most of them cried their eyes out during class but always asked to try again. Each of the women we trained started out scared and a little frail but left the class a very strong and confident woman. This is what it takes to train the average joe to become self-reliant. Anything less i a dis-service... Suffice to say that at the end of every class, EVERY woman left with nothing but praise and lots of hugs and kisses...
 
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In the mid 90's, i had a friend that used to teach rape prevention/defense classes where i used to assist... most of the time, the classes were held at a local college campus. What we did was teach women very basic movements and put them in extremely stressful real-world attack situations where we would take them down and forced them to fight their way out. We yelled at them and threatened them and would not relent until they either broke down or fought their way free. We put them in a cruciable and in situations where they felt their lives were in danger and taught them that they had to reach inside themselves to release their inner beast if they expected to survive. Most of them cried their eyes out during class but always asked to try again. Each of the women we trained started out scared and a little frail but left the class a very strong and confident woman. This is what it takes to train the average joe to become self-reliant. Anything less i a dis-service... Suffice to say that at the end of every class, EVERY woman left with nothing but praise and lots of hugs and kisses...
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I understand what your are saying here. Stand up and fight for yourself. I was incarcerated for a period of time. After the processing I was assigned a cell with 3 other guys. They (3) were Black, 6'+ and well over 200# each. Myself,(white) I was only 5'8" 125#, weak and frail by comparsion. When the lights went out that first night, they attempted to rape me... oh well. It was a fight or flight situation and I had no where to fly away, so scared for my Ass (no pun intended) I fought them off all night. I broke one guys nose, torn off another guy's ear and the 3rd I think I blinded him in one eye. They did a number on me too, but I walked out of that cell the next morning beat up sore, three less cell-mates and luckily nothing broken. They thought I was an easy mark but the rest of serving my sentence I had respect because I didn't get punk'd by 'em. Word got around the jail house what happen and the little guys would ask what I did. Simple, fight til you can't move anymore, then get up again and fight some more. Otherwords... just keep going at 'em no matter what (THE INNER BEAST). Mind you, the only fight I ever had was 15 years before that night when I was 10.
 
sikdogg said:
I hear ya Bruticus... i have nothing against systems like Krav Maga, i was just voicing a concern that people need to keep in mind about the martial arts and self-defense in general. There is no easy way to self defense... how you react in a stress situation like a fight or an attack will greatly depend on how you train. The more realistic and brutal the training, the better prepared you will be. From what i've seem of systems like Krav Maga is that they train against static attacks... this is a good way to learn basic movements but is an extremely poor way of training someone to defend agains real-world attacks since nothing in the real world is static.

In the mid 90's, i had a friend that used to teach rape prevention/defense classes where i used to assist... most of the time, the classes were held at a local college campus. What we did was teach women very basic movements and put them in extremely stressful real-world attack situations where we would take them down and forced them to fight their way out. We yelled at them and threatened them and would not relent until they either broke down or fought their way free. We put them in a cruciable and in situations where they felt their lives were in danger and taught them that they had to reach inside themselves to release their inner beast if they expected to survive. Most of them cried their eyes out during class but always asked to try again. Each of the women we trained started out scared and a little frail but left the class a very strong and confident woman. This is what it takes to train the average joe to become self-reliant. Anything less i a dis-service... Suffice to say that at the end of every class, EVERY woman left with nothing but praise and lots of hugs and kisses...
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I totally agree with what you are saying I just wish more people would realise this. Bruce lee in his Tao of Jeet Kune Do talks about how set patterns and Katas are useless and only serve to solidify what was once fluid which is why he upset so many traditional martial artists but it needed to be said. To learn to fight you have to make your training as realistic as possible. I may be biased towards boxing but it provides an excellent staring point in terms of footwork, balance, timing and punching power. Although it is not a complete fighting system and you will come unstuck if you fight someone who is well trained in low kicking, takedowns and grappling but the chances are those kind of guys who are good at that are not the ones who are going to be hassling you. Well done for your classes sikdog I think the message is slowly sinking in that realism is the key.
 
Look mate, i know i'm going against the grain here ( often i am ) but i would like to say this to you:

There is no fight you can win. Whenever a fight starts, all those millions of years of Human evolution go down the drain and we become no more than animals. I feel you dawg, i respect your will to overpower these duchebags but hey...what will you have acomplished when you do put them down?

I say, get wiser than them, get smarter than them, use your brain and oversmart them. Forget weapons and shit cause that will land you in a prison cell quicker than you can say JELQ man. You are young, your whole life in right in front of you and no scumbag is worth risking that. Now i'm not saying run from the fight here, just don't go after it mate. Change friends and social circles if you have to but always remember this my friend, a loaded gun was made for 2 things only, killing or reverting back to you tenfold.

I have fought all my life, 24 years of martial arts on my back and still i never fight. I am not a lesser man if i choose not to break some dude's jaw just cause he is being an ass. He has to live with himself and that i all the justice i need get it ?

I have done Kung-fu choy-lee-fat southern style 16 years, aikido 6 years, savate 4 years, judo 1 year, Muay-thay 8 years, capoeira 4 years and dabbled with a few others... All that gave me was a cool calm way of being and self-control ( beside many injuries of course ).

If these dudes are after you then find the reason and turn it against them. Use your inteligence over brutality.

Sorry if this is not what you wanted to hear but violence is not the answer. Brain power is.

Peace

Mike
 
8InchMIKE you are correct in your statement...use your inteligence over brutality. The martial arts is about discipline/control of one's self.

Chinese proverb, "A resourceful man knows to avoid a disadvantageous situation close at hand. " and one of the best strategems by China's military leader Sun Zi, "Running away is the best."

8InchMIKE is saying be smart and don't get yourself backed in a corner where the only escape is to fight your way out.

He who lives to run away today, lives to run away another day.
 
8InchMIKE, i totally agree with you that walking away is always the best practice but sometimes you don't always have that option. With your background, you have developed a sense of confidence to say "whatever bro..." and walk away knowing that if push came to shove you will most likely be able to handle yourself. Some people want that same level of confidence to not care or be worried when confronted. The only way to get that level of confidence is to not be afraid to get in a fight. The irony is that in order to get the confidence to not be afraid to get into fights it to learn how to fight...
 
sikdogg said:
8InchMIKE, i totally agree with you that walking away is always the best practice but sometimes you don't always have that option. With your background, you have developed a sense of confidence to say "whatever bro..." and walk away knowing that if push came to shove you will most likely be able to handle yourself. Some people want that same level of confidence to not care or be worried when confronted. The only way to get that level of confidence is to not be afraid to get in a fight. The irony is that in order to get the confidence to not be afraid to get into fights it to learn how to fight...
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Ohh dawg i also agree with you of course and that is why i strongly recomend all dudes and dudettes to learn some form or other of martial arts. The only catch to this situation on hand is that he has no time to spend years learning enough to a degree where he would be confident walking in dark corners.

If one does get trapped in a dark corner with no chance to escape then i say give it all you got to survive and everything goes at a moment like that. What i'm trying to say here is: DO NOT LET YOURSELF GET TRAPPenis EnlargementD IN ANY WAY.

Peace

Mike
 
sikdogg said:
8InchMIKE, i totally agree with you that walking away is always the best practice but sometimes you don't always have that option. With your background, you have developed a sense of confidence to say "whatever bro..." and walk away knowing that if push came to shove you will most likely be able to handle yourself. Some people want that same level of confidence to not care or be worried when confronted. The only way to get that level of confidence is to not be afraid to get in a fight. The irony is that in order to get the confidence to not be afraid to get into fights it to learn how to fight...
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You hit the nail on the head there mate you have to go down that path yourself and you can't learn from anyone elses experiences. Like you say sometimes you have no option.
 
No shit... Yo . . I didn't even begin to watch the entire video, I thought it was just about beatdowns, nothing to do with the racisits in that video,

I didn't not mean to offend yall!
 
Ya, and spinner2, don't go out and do some extreme shit know. That type a shit can happen, usually early morning outside a pub somewhere... But I have a feeling these guys your talking about aren't this gritty or as grownup as the guys in this last video.
 
what i do is get to know my surrounding when im about to get into a fight. Theres no rules in a street fight, so if u see something that u can use against ur opponent then use it. also dont ever let someone else throw the first punch. I know that some people dont agree with starting fights, but if u know that something is going down then be the first to throw a move, next time theyll think twice about starting sumtn and this way ull let them know that u aint gona be taking anybodys shit. Have confindence and stand up for urself with determination
 
First off are they attacking you in public? if so file charges! unless you, yourself are an unsavory part of society.

I am a martial arts instructor, and I have studied about every kind of martial art i could find, It's not the art, it's how it's taught and how you train. The belt around your waist means nothing, but how you apply your knowlege does.

don't jump into something that takes a life time to learn to defend yourself, like aikido, judo or jujitsu... if this guy has friends. while your wrestling with him they will stomp your head into the ground.

Krav Maga is fine, Jeet Kun Do is great too.. some karate schools tae kwon do schools, even kung fu school offer great self defense options, it all depends on the instructor, not the style.

If you put a lot into your mind, learn to stay away from fights, be observant, pick up a stick, cross the street, see them first. Talk them out of it... .... that said, over 10 years in martial arts has shown me it's easier to avoid them than just kick their ass.. because they aren't smart enough to know it will happen the same way again,

Also as a certified firearms instructor... don't even go there, you'll end up in jail where there are more just like them, unless your life is in SERIOUS danger. If so get proper instruction. Then get a gun you aren't affraid for the cops to get when you use it.
 
Things have cooled down. One of the guys called me up and we settled some things. I'm still gonna watch my back and be cautious, but it's not really something I have to keep on my mind anymore. It definitely feels like a weight has been lifted.

I did about 6 months of Jeet Kun Do a few years back. It's definitely useful. I learned far more than I did from my formal karate background when I was very young.
 
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