How important is penis size really to woman?

How important is penis size to both men and woman are we as PE'ers being efficient with our time. If you take PE too far you can spend hours doing PE and neglecting the rest of your life.I believe a 12" dick is a waste of time if you never use it. Please chime in and tell me what you all think about it. Are looks(physically, fashion, grooming), money, charisma,intelligence, race more important than having a big dick? I really think that big dick 8 plus would be say worth 30% of a womans attraction value to a man. I'm in a white country so no idea how race effects woman's attraction and i think black guys are generally bigger than white while asians are smaller. It would be interesting to see how other races find penis size?
 
This is a question that is asked alot. We as men cannot answer the question of how important size is to a woman because it's a personal preference to each woman. Some women are more than happy with an average size penis and some want more. The same applies for girth. A quick Google search will bring up a few mixed results on this topic but if you search for the size of a dildo most popular with women then that size is between 6.5 inches to 7.5 inches with a girth between 5.5 inches and 6 inches.
To be honest, I don't care what any womans preferred size is. Having a bigger cock is for me. Yes I use it to fuck my woman but I want it bigger for me.
If you are with a woman and you know she has sex toys especially dildos, then this will give you a very good idea as to what she likes.
For me it's better to have more than not enough.
I honestly can't answer the other questions as I have no idea.
 
I am sure that size is important to some women but when you consider that we all are not walking around naked, the other factors you mentioned would play a role in what attracts a woman to you at least initially.
 
Not as important as you would think. I think that most women are far too worried about themselves than worrying on what our size may be. According to some of the best interviews and polls, most women like a penis no bigger than 7 x 5. I think men think on penis size a lot or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] would not be here :) And when men worry they sometimes project their insecurities on the woman they are with and think their own expectations are that of the woman. When you ask most men what size is perfect most with say 8 x 6, a full inch both ways.
 
I have been married to the same woman for over 30 years so I would say that my size has worked fine for all those years and I am not looking to impress any other woman. That being said, she does have a dildo that measures 7.5" x 5.75" and she loves it, just not every day. So, if I can gain a little would it be nice, yes. If I do not, will it lead to her leaving for something bigger, don't think so. Would it make me happy to gain a little, yes. The good thing is I found [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and I honestly think with my determination and support from the brotherhood I will reach my modest goal.;)
 
Women are hypergamous creatures (always looking for the bigger/better thing) and uber-competitive among themselves, and men can sense this. Women throw 'shit-tests' at us almost constantly (so-much-so that we've become numb to most of it) and those tests provide her with indicators of your 'worth' as a man and potential partner...even guys married or in long-term relationships are subject to this. To combat all of this, our confidence in ourselves must be truly unshakable and knowing that you're the biggest/best she's ever had is a major part of that confidence. If you truly want to captivate a woman, your belief in yourself must be solid to the core of your being and nothing, i mean nothing is able to rattle you.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;740739 said:
Women are hypergamous creatures (always looking for the bigger/better thing) and uber-competitive among themselves, and men can sense this. Women throw 'shit-tests' at us almost constantly (so-much-so that we've become numb to most of it) and those tests provide her with indicators of your 'worth' as a man and potential partner...even guys married or in long-term relationships are subject to this. To combat all of this, our confidence in ourselves must be truly unshakable and knowing that you're the biggest/best she's ever had is a major part of that confidence. If you truly want to captivate a woman, your belief in yourself must be solid to the core of your being and nothing, i mean nothing is able to rattle you.

I agree buddy. Women are shit testing constantly! When it comes to to my woman I had the shit test thrown at me early on to test my confidence which was her slipping in that one of her previous boyfriends had an unnatural big cock. I didn't even blink at her statement and told her that I would still fuck her brains out which I did!
Confidence is massive when it comes to women, especially if they have anything about them.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;740739 said:
Women are hypergamous creatures (always looking for the bigger/better thing) and uber-competitive among themselves, and men can sense this. Women throw 'shit-tests' at us almost constantly (so-much-so that we've become numb to most of it) and those tests provide her with indicators of your 'worth' as a man and potential partner...even guys married or in long-term relationships are subject to this. To combat all of this, our confidence in ourselves must be truly unshakable and knowing that you're the biggest/best she's ever had is a major part of that confidence. If you truly want to captivate a woman, your belief in yourself must be solid to the core of your being and nothing, i mean nothing is able to rattle you.

This pretty much sums it up
 
Big Schwanz Acht;740776 said:
...and that one innocuous statement set the wheels of PE in motion :) well done! you're a proper bloke!

I'd actually just started but in the back of my mind I was thinking ' If I'm the best sex you have ever had now then wait until I've added a few inches ! ' . I'm going to be a dangerous man when I get to where I want to be 😂😂

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doublelongdaddy;740882 said:
Love that Beard is back!

It's good to be back !!
 
beardedbaldy;740913 said:
I'd actually just started but in the back of my mind I was thinking ' If I'm the best sex you have ever had now then wait until I've added a few inches ! ' . I'm going to be a dangerous man when I get to where I want to be 😂😂

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It's good to be back !!

Just be careful, you don't want to get arrested for concealing a deadly weapon;)
 
Lookn4girth;740916 said:
Just be careful, you don't want to get arrested for concealing a deadly weapon;)

Now that would a funny story to tell 😂😂
I'm definitely the type of guy that wants these so called Big dick problems.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;740739 said:
Women are hypergamous creatures (always looking for the bigger/better thing) and uber-competitive among themselves, and men can sense this. Women throw 'shit-tests' at us almost constantly (so-much-so that we've become numb to most of it) and those tests provide her with indicators of your 'worth' as a man and potential partner...even guys married or in long-term relationships are subject to this. To combat all of this, our confidence in ourselves must be truly unshakable and knowing that you're the biggest/best she's ever had is a major part of that confidence. If you truly want to captivate a woman, your belief in yourself must be solid to the core of your being and nothing, i mean nothing is able to rattle you.

You are red pilled?
 
quazimodo_007;740936 said:
You are red pilled?

Been 'aware' for a couple of years...could have used The Info two decades ago :) Better late...(as they say). If more men accepted The Red Pill principles, we'd have a much better balanced society...problem is I see the last few generations accepting their lot and being lazy. A movement starts with a single act!
 
Big Schwanz Acht;740959 said:
Been 'aware' for a couple of years...could have used The Info two decades ago :) Better late...(as they say). If more men accepted The Red Pill principles, we'd have a much better balanced society...problem is I see the last few generations accepting their lot and being lazy. A movement starts with a single act!

Alot of men have taken on female tendencies. There are just as many male grooming products as there are women's. Don't get me wrong, I'm no slob , but when it takes a guy longer to get ready to turn out than a woman then we have a problem. And as for mens fashion! I don't know what it's like in your part of the world but over here in the UK skinny jeans are the in thing 😂😂😂
 
beardedbaldy;740962 said:
in the UK skinny jeans are the in thing 😂😂😂

What a attack on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]! :)
 
doublelongdaddy;740964 said:
What a attack on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]! :)

Haha , could you imagine the looks you would get 😂😂😂 oh my days
 
Elementary (Primary) Schools have been medicating 'the male' out of boys for a decade or longer...the vast majority of grade-school teachers are women and they're the drivers of this atrocity. If any fathers of sons are reading this, please do not allow your child to be force-fed a pill...they're just boys and will mature out of this. Redirect those energies into 'boy activities' instead of eating chips(crisps) and playing video games
 
Big Schwanz Acht;740975 said:
Elementary (Primary) Schools have been medicating 'the male' out of boys for a decade or longer...the vast majority of grade-school teachers are women and they're the drivers of this atrocity. If any fathers of sons are reading this, please do not allow your child to be force-fed a pill...they're just boys and will mature out of this. Redirect those energies into 'boy activities' instead of eating chips(crisps) and playing video games

I know all too well buddy. I've worked in primary schools for the last 10 years. Boys need to be around men . I take my boy to judo and he comes to the gym with me while I train. He is around men on a regular basis apart from school which is something he needs .
 
beardedbaldy;740997 said:
I know all too well buddy. I've worked in primary schools for the last 10 years. Boys need to be around men . I take my boy to judo and he comes to the gym with me while I train. He is around men on a regular basis apart from school which is something he needs .

You're that shining beacon of hope! Thank you for recognizing and doing something...your boy will appreciate this gift for his entire life (even if he doesn't know it :))
 
beardedbaldy;740968 said:
Haha , could you imagine the looks you would get 😂😂😂 oh my days

:) I would be a freaking star!
 
I had one girl explain this in 100% 'femspeak' saying that penis size didn't matter until she experienced it...and then that's all that mattered.

My translation would be a part of her was awoken/touched (probably both mentally and physically) and she'd been chasing that feeling ever since. Maybe similar to someone chasing that elusive 'high'...not sure. I know for myself, being much larger now makes the sex far more enjoyable, but more from the mental/ego side of things.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;741164 said:
I had one girl explain this in 100% 'femspeak' saying that penis size didn't matter until she experienced it...and then that's all that mattered.

My translation would be a part of her was awoken/touched (probably both mentally and physically) and she'd been chasing that feeling ever since. Maybe similar to someone chasing that elusive 'high'...not sure. I know for myself, being much larger now makes the sex far more enjoyable, but more from the mental/ego side of things.

I'm sure Madonna put it as chasing the feeling of being a Virgin again. I'm sure she got what she wanted when she fucked rodman.
 
beardedbaldy;741173 said:
I'm sure Madonna put it as chasing the feeling of being a Virgin again.

Interesting! Quentin Tarantino hypothesized this in 'Reservoir Dogs' and there could be something to this. I'm sure women can feel if their vagina is 'fully occupied' and if it's not, perhaps there's less satisfaction and she may feel less feminine. Just a thought
 
Big Schwanz Acht;741164 said:
I had one girl explain this in 100% 'femspeak' saying that penis size didn't matter until she experienced it...and then that's all that mattered.

My translation would be a part of her was awoken/touched (probably both mentally and physically) and she'd been chasing that feeling ever since. Maybe similar to someone chasing that elusive 'high'...not sure. I know for myself, being much larger now makes the sex far more enjoyable, but more from the mental/ego side of things.

Sounds like she was saying that she did not know what she was missing until she had a taste
 
beardedbaldy;741148 said:
Deary me . It would be the male equivalent of a woman with huge tits! "excuse me , my eyes are up here"

That is actually the big question: Is it equivalent to a woman with big breasts. I don't think so. Last I looked admiration of the male body is not part of our society - unless you go to the gay scene or bodybuilding (which is also is followed by men).

What is the equivalent of Playboy? It's a magazine called Playgirl - surprisingly not for girls.
 
Chaoskampf;741470 said:
That is actually the big question: Is it equivalent to a woman with big breasts. I don't think so. Last I looked admiration of the male body is not part of our society - unless you go to the gay scene or bodybuilding (which is also is followed by men).

What is the equivalent of Playboy? It's a magazine called Playgirl - surprisingly not for girls.

You are right in saying that the male body isn't admired socially by women via magazine's. But women definitely notice if a man has a big package.
What I wrote was in reference to DLD wearing skin tight jeans whilst wrapped in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words]. So the joke was made in that regard.
 
beardedbaldy;741471 said:
You are right in saying that the male body isn't admired socially by women via magazine's. But women definitely notice if a man has a big package.
What I wrote was in reference to DLD wearing skin tight jeans whilst wrapped in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words]. So the joke was made in that regard.

I have done it before and it was a blast :) Everyone was looking! I felt like a monster!
 
beardedbaldy;740997 said:
I know all too well buddy. I've worked in primary schools for the last 10 years. Boys need to be around men . I take my boy to judo and he comes to the gym with me while I train. He is around men on a regular basis apart from school which is something he needs .

Younger males need to see real dicks and balls in a non-sexual (not adult entertainment!).

Boys aren't girls! Boys need to bond over having same genitals, male feelings of inferiority, etc. Women cannot relate to this.

How could a man understand childbirth, PMS, and having female genitalia?
 
Iceman338;741635 said:
Younger males need to see real dicks and balls in a non-sexual (not adult entertainment!).

Boys aren't girls! Boys need to bond over having same genitals, male feelings of inferiority, etc. Women cannot relate to this.

How could a man understand childbirth, PMS, and having female genitalia?

Good point!
Boys are being treated as 'defective girls' at a very early age, so much so that we're now having transgender issues...effing tragic
 
Our society should be ashamed of penis shaming. Erections, ejaculations, etc... all so natural and beautiful. Shaming young boys over their natural body functions.

Peni are god-given organs. They are to be celebrated.
 
Chaoskampf;741470 said:
That is actually the big question: Is it equivalent to a woman with big breasts. I don't think so. Last I looked admiration of the male body is not part of our society - unless you go to the gay scene or bodybuilding (which is also is followed by men).

What is the equivalent of Playboy? It's a magazine called Playgirl - surprisingly not for girls.


The only thing that straight men will celebrate (other than saying that a dude has awesome biceps, etc.) is a Donkey Dong dick. The dudes will talk about it all the time. But, yes, just having a sexy body as a man....don't expect much outside of the gay world. That's just how it is.

If a dude were to pose for Playgirl with a real Donkey Dong dick like Lex Steele's, he'd be talked about by the boys (no matter if the well-hung dude were gay, straight, bi, etc.).
 
beardedbaldy;740962 said:
Alot of men have taken on female tendencies. There are just as many male grooming products as there are women's. Don't get me wrong, I'm no slob , but when it takes a guy longer to get ready to turn out than a woman then we have a problem. And as for mens fashion! I don't know what it's like in your part of the world but over here in the UK skinny jeans are the in thing 😂😂😂

I wear skinny jeans but lift and have big legs and big dick woman love that!
 
beardedbaldy;741471 said:
You are right in saying that the male body isn't admired socially by women via magazine's. But women definitely notice if a man has a big package.
What I wrote was in reference to DLD wearing skin tight jeans whilst wrapped in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words]. So the joke was made in that regard.

I remember a female pick up teacher and and another bisexual sex therapist said when a woman sees a man she does the cock eye, looks at the cock and looks at the eyes.They said they all do it. I had a sweet looking girl do it to me looked at my crotch and walked up to me and said nice shirt. I wasn't in the mood that evening after finding out an employee my cousin was stealing from me!!! Dammit!
 
beardedbaldy;741148 said:
Deary me . It would be the male equivalent of a woman with huge tits! "excuse me , my eyes are up here"

If I would be a girl, I would like to be a girl with big breasts (like a J cup). Wonder how that feels like. I am sure you will get more attention that you would ever get as a guy. Unfortunately there would be annoying and disgusting people staring and lurking - that would piss me off like hell.
 
If you want to see what the truth is in average size go to the source that will not be manipulated, a nude beach. Here you will see reality with no fluff!
 
tattooboy01;741678 said:
I think the behind the cheeks and the bundle stretches are what I’m really unsure of. Sorry if I posted this twice

It is so simple! grab your penis from behind, stretch it up your backside. Thats it!
 
Iceman338;741738 said:
I understand your point. But dudes can get serious attention for having a big peter in the straight world. You just have to go about it differently.

John Holmes was as popular as any female adult entertainment star. A dude's sexy body won't cut it in the straight world, despite big muscles. He HAS to have a super big peter.;)

Ron Jeremy :)
 
Yes, Ron Jeremy, for example. Some of that hardcore admiration is because it looks "less gay" to admire an ugly fat man's big dick. If Ron were super handsome and well-built, straight men would be a bit more reticent to publicly admire him for his big penis size.

Then again, Peter North is admired greatly for his geyser cum shots and he's made gay adult entertainment. So....heterosexual men are strange creatures.;)

Who knows? My point is, is that a super big dick can get the admiration of any pussy-loving man. It's just the way it's presented to them. If it might look a little too gay, then they will be less vocal.

Men love looking at realistic-looking dildos and using them on women. Go figure!
 
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I don't know - all the famous studs in straight adult entertainment sort of get secretly admired by male viewers.

I remember a few years back on Playboy Radio how adult entertainment legend Randy West went on and on about what a stud Billy Glide was with his big ole' peter. :cool:

Billy Glide died a few years ago.
 
The way I understood it is that male pornstars don't make a lot of money. Then drugs are a problem in the adult entertainment scene which cost a lot. As an effect male pornstars go into gay adult entertainment because they get paid well.
 
Chaoskampf;741930 said:
The way I understood it is that male pornstars don't make a lot of money. Then drugs are a problem in the adult entertainment scene which cost a lot. As an effect male pornstars go into gay adult entertainment because they get paid well.

adult entertainment stars - male and female alike - get the bulk of their money from escorting. Sure, male adult entertainment stars make a lot more money in gay adult entertainment, but they still cannot rely on it for sole income. They are forced into escorting - just like their female counterparts.

Only big male stars make any money in straight adult entertainment: Lex, Peter North, etc. Yes, the male talent has to have some special trait to really warrant him bigger money (i.e, big dick, huge cum-shots, big bull balls, etc.)
 
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Iceman338;742000 said:
adult entertainment stars - male and female alike - get the bulk of their money from escorting. Sure, male adult entertainment stars make a lot more money in gay adult entertainment, but they still cannot rely on it for sole income. They are forced into escorting - just like their female counterparts.

Only big male stars make any money in straight adult entertainment: Lex, Peter North, etc. Yes, the male talent has to have some special trait to really warrant him bigger money (i.e, big dick, huge cum-shots, big bull balls, etc.)

A typical male gets $250 for a day's shooting. This is based on BangBros. A female gets $900 a day. It is not fun or sexy in anyway. It is a very hard thing to do as you are being directed through the whole scene (s). They will say "stop" every 2 minutes to change lighting or position. The female is always getting upset with the male. It is really a nightmare job (plus extremely sinful). Much better ways to make money than this!
 
doublelongdaddy;742174 said:
A typical male gets $250 for a day's shooting. This is based on BangBros. A female gets $900 a day. It is not fun or sexy in anyway. It is a very hard thing to do as you are being directed through the whole scene (s). They will say "stop" every 2 minutes to change lighting or position. The female is always getting upset with the male. It is really a nightmare job (plus extremely sinful). Much better ways to make money than this!

You're right!

I would never do adult entertainment.

Showing off my big dick in a adult entertainment mag would be tops for me (wouldn't even do that if pushed lol).

Escorting is where the money is, too. And we all know how dangerous that can be.:O
 
Iceman338;742198 said:
You're right!

I would never do adult entertainment.

Showing off my big dick in a adult entertainment mag would be tops for me (wouldn't even do that if pushed lol).

Escorting is where the money is, too. And we all know how dangerous that can be.:O

For me sin leads to death. I consider adult entertainment an abomination and a destroyer of real love.
 
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