Progress thread F26 - Grower to a Shower - create a flaccid Monster & Journey to 10 x 6.5 ?
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Day 27:
Also I've started to stretch on my dick even when I'm erect and edging ? Don't know if DLD did some magic here but I've never done anything like this and now since doing PE I'm bending my dick while edging, pulling it into all different directions, bend it to the left, bend it to the right, bend it to the left while pushing with the hand into the mid of my shaft, doing the same to the right (xd) Maybe that's my manifested edging routine now.
Funny thing: Since my libido skyrocks, I'm even stay erect while pulling on my dick and bending it.
So all is going great and it's also making some fun!
- 10min manual stretching
- 10min LM (as Rope Assist)
- Testicle Health Massage (2x 50 reps)
- 5min clamping with silicone cable tie and edging
- Erect Stretches
- learning kegels and reverse kegels throughout the day
- ball stretching 2x15min
- 16h wearing Penimaster belt system
- 3h wearing Penimaster rod system
Also I've started to stretch on my dick even when I'm erect and edging ? Don't know if DLD did some magic here but I've never done anything like this and now since doing PE I'm bending my dick while edging, pulling it into all different directions, bend it to the left, bend it to the right, bend it to the left while pushing with the hand into the mid of my shaft, doing the same to the right (xd) Maybe that's my manifested edging routine now.
Funny thing: Since my libido skyrocks, I'm even stay erect while pulling on my dick and bending it.
So all is going great and it's also making some fun!
I never mention this in this thread but a very quick way to increase flaccid length is using the testicle health massage and stretch found in the newbie routine. Check it out and try it and I think you’ll see the incredible power it holds.
Do you mean in order to get rid of my turkey neck?
Can't say anything about it so far, doing the testicle health massage just since I've started PE and since I've started this log LOL
Ball-stretching I'm just doing since 3 days so far with silicone rings (same like cockrings, just more tight).
I think stretching the skin in order to really see a difference with the turkey neck and lower hanging balls will take at least around 3-6 months of daily work if that was your question.
About the chick: sadly the gifs here don't say the names of the girls haha, I've posted lots of hot chicks in the thread of @TuffDong, I've also asked myself that question a lot LOL
Doing it since Day 1 as it's stated in my daily log, 2x50 reps every single day since I've started
@DLDDay 28:
I don't even know if I should keep on posting a daily log as it already became a routine and is just plain text.
Maybe in the future I'm thinking about either doing a weekly or monthly log. It doesn't give that much value out if I'm just posting what kind of training I did as it's always nearly the same beside the time I'm wearing the extender, which is changing everyday a little
If something would change on my routine, when adding or stopping an exercise, I'd for sure update that too.
Let's see what time brings.
- 10min manual stretching
- 10min LM (as Rope Assist)
- Testicle Health Massage (2x 50 reps)
- 5min clamping with silicone cable tie and edging
- Erect Stretches
- learning kegels and reverse kegels throughout the day
- ball stretching 2x15min
- 14h wearing Penimaster belt system
- 4h wearing Penimaster rod system
I don't even know if I should keep on posting a daily log as it already became a routine and is just plain text.
Maybe in the future I'm thinking about either doing a weekly or monthly log. It doesn't give that much value out if I'm just posting what kind of training I did as it's always nearly the same beside the time I'm wearing the extender, which is changing everyday a little
If something would change on my routine, when adding or stopping an exercise, I'd for sure update that too.
Let's see what time brings.
Hey F26,
you have a great routine and this is a great log.
I think you should keep doing daily post but you can shorten things a bit.
Typical routine, x hours belt, x hours rod and an additional blurb.
Stay in the habit, you are doing amazing!
How is your EQ doing?
One other question, are you getting enough sleep?
you have a great routine and this is a great log.
I think you should keep doing daily post but you can shorten things a bit.
Typical routine, x hours belt, x hours rod and an additional blurb.
Stay in the habit, you are doing amazing!
How is your EQ doing?
One other question, are you getting enough sleep?
Do you mean in order to get rid of my turkey neck?
Can't say anything about it so far, doing the testicle health massage just since I've started PE and since I've started this log LOL
Ball-stretching I'm just doing since 3 days so far with silicone rings (same like cockrings, just more tight).
I think stretching the skin in order to really see a difference with the turkey neck and lower hanging balls will take at least around 3-6 months of daily work if that was your question.
About the chick: sadly the gifs here don't say the names of the girls haha, I've posted lots of hot chicks in the thread of @TuffDong, I've also asked myself that question a lot LOL
Doing it since Day 1 as it's stated in my daily log, 2x50 reps every single day since I've started
my man!??
Was always writing below my daily log what I've felt and what I've changed as I'm still a newbie and needed to find the right routine for me, so I've done some changes a few times. But now as things settle down a bit, most things are clear and I won't write that long texts anymore.
Mostly just like you said, routine and x hours extender + soon also another device (fire)
All the other thoughts and questions will go into this thread of me then: F26 Newbie Q&A
About my current EQ:
EQ is doing great so far: https://mattersofsize.com/threads/f26-grower-to-a-shower-create-a-flaccid-monster.1819779/post-1865298
I know you're asking because of the long daily wearing time of my penimaster extender, which averages around ~14h-16h per day and about BPFSL.
The more difference between BPFSL and BPEL, the less good the EQ becomes (TGC Theory) - but I haven't measured so far and I don't planning measuring in the beginning as it will maybe disappoint me, but from reading lots of good threads it was often said that it takes around 4-6 weeks for newbies to actually start gaining as at first the resistance of the penile tissue has to be 'broken' (break-in period) and we start coming into the 'Gain Zone'.
I've noticed some changes a few days ago: https://mattersofsize.com/threads/f26-grower-to-a-shower-create-a-flaccid-monster.1819779/post-1864778
Some copy-pasta about 'break-in period' and 'gain zone' from a secret article, hope it's allowed to share, else @DLD can delete it or contact me:
Want to know why most men give up on PE and proceed to exclaim that it doesn’t work? Why some men gain easily while others struggle? They never finish the initial break in period! There exists a break-in period fairly early on in the penis enlargement process that most men simply aren’t aware of. This break-in period typically lasts 4 to 6 weeks from the start of PE exercises for those completely new to PE and completes when the first permanent gains begin appearing. These first real gains are an indication that the walls of the shaft and to a lesser extent the head have finally broken down and can no longer withstand the pressure they previously could due to the unhealed micro-tears building upon themselves over time. At this time the breakdown of the tissue walls begins to become physically apparent and can actually be felt beneath the skin on the shaft, most commonly on the shaft sides while the penis is semi-erect. The normal smooth or ribbed texture of the shaft walls may now instead have a woven or bumpy texture feel to it.
The broken down texture felt beneath the skin can be described as varying in feel from that of a rough woven or knitted (knotty) sweater material to fine granular bumps depending upon how far the tissues have been broken down, with the fine bumps being an indicator that the tissues are in near complete breakdown. Please note that it is not necessary to completely break down the tissues to a fine texture for gains to occur. If the woven texture of any kind is felt, anywhere on the shaft, gains will occur the fastest during this time. This state is what I used to call being in the Gain Zone years ago on the PE forums. It is also important to note that the further broken down the walls are, erections may be weaker typically since they cannot maintain structural integrity or surface tension as well as Pre-PE. A good analogy is when a balloon is stretched while under pressure and cannot maintain its shape when its walls begin to thin out from stretching beyond its limits.
Another added benefit of being in the Gain Zone is that since the tissues are broken down (disrupted) the lighter weight/force devices such as extenders and ADS devices work at a faster rate. With the tissues broken down, they can no longer resist the forces and all of the available force is now directly transmitted to the primary length restrictors, the ligaments. Ever wonder why the extender and ADS companies including jelqing instructions with their product? Now you know!
Mastering PE means being able to use that woven texture as your best indicator that PE is still working and gains are possible in my experience. Reading the woven texture also allows you know whether you are entering or leaving a plateau period, this helping you avoid wasted time and effort while using some routines and devices. Simply put, if using the device or technique produces and maintains the texture it will be of benefit to you, while techniques or devices that cannot create or maintain that texture (keep you in the Gain Zone) should be avoided and are therefore not beneficial. Some in the PE world describe this as riding the “fatigue” following the exercises, in other words using the period following tissue breakdown to create gains. Whatever you would like to call it, its usefulness cannot be overstated during your PE journey.
So how do you get to this magical Gain Zone I speak of? You must overload or stress the tissues repeatedly during the start of your PE journey to create the micro-tears, then continue building on those tears with more “damage” until the walls literally begin to fracture, creating the woven texture. How best to overload the cell walls? Both length and girth techniques that feature decent applied force or weight are capable of causing sufficient cell wall disruption to get you into the Gain Zone. Techniques such as Kegel Clamps and the Shopping Bag hanger are good methods for beginners to reach the Gain Zone, while more seasoned PE users might require Modified Jelqing, Heavy Weight Hanging, or even Clamping to push them past the break-in period. Remember, once you are in the Gain Zone you can switch to lighter force/weight routines and the texture can still be retained if the lighter force/weight routines are performed consistently to avoid excessive healing which would require break-down using heavier force.
To use the texture as your PE gauge takes practice but once you get the hang of it you can use it to help determine your healing rate, optimum number of rest days, and effectiveness of PE exercises and products. Lastly, the Gain Zone woven texture will heal and completely disappear (revert to smooth) over the course of a few weeks, with initial healing (woven texture fading) just beginning within the first week of PE being ceased, so plan accordingly. The fact that you can take a week’s vacation while in the Gain Zone without losing it is a wonderful thing!
Traveling long term? Busy with life? Should you be concerned about leaving the Gain Zone while away or when standard PE exercises aren’t an option, use moderate force manual stretches for several minutes each day or every other day during an extended break period to maintain the woven texture. I use this technique constantly so I can instantly see gains while trying out new PE devices being reviewed. In this way, you can start right back up (even months later) where you stopped PE and immediately begin to see new gains without having to go through the break-in period again!
I've never read about that on any forum and it really seems to make sense as I've also noticed something on my penis skin few days ago.
Hope that helps
@Mike03016
I'm having around 5-7 hours sleep, in average mostly 5-6 hours, on the weekends maybe 7.
But it has nothing to do with PE LOL If you check my log, my active PE time is only around 30-45min.
Ball stretching is just wearing kind of cockrings around my ballsack to stretch it into the length and I'm doing this while wearing my extender.
And wearing an extender doesn't cost me any time, the only time it takes throughout the day is when you're drinking a lot (I do) and then have to take a piss every 1-2h. But taking off the extender and taking it back on only takes around 10-15s each (at least with my Penimaster Pro).
@TuffDong
I think enough is when you're waking up and not directly falling asleep again (cwl)
Just kidding, but enough would be when you're having enough 'deep sleep' (sleep cycles) which can be measured with some devices. Sleep quality is more important than sleeping time, but if I would start about this topic now, it would become a little bit to deep and too much.
For the average Joe it really depends on the person, I know some people they just sleep around 4-5h and are daily active and it's enough for them while I also know people which sleep 8-9 hours daily and don't work with less sleep.
Day 29:
- 10min manual stretching
- 10min LM (as Rope Assist)
- Testicle Health Massage (2x 50 reps)
- 5min clamping with silicone cable tie and edging
- Erect Stretches
- learning kegels and reverse kegels throughout the day
- ball stretching 2x15min
- 16h wearing Penimaster belt system
- 2h wearing Penimaster rod system
Microtears are how they hypothesized gains happened in the mid 2000's. All the heavy hitters started to think this was true (Bib, Xeno, etc). In my mind that's been all disproved based on the evidence I know presented in my Long Game thread. For one there was question if microtears lead to scar tissue. ThoughtfulGold at thunders had a diagnostic ultrasound done recently and guess what? No scar tissue despite years of PE.
I now think it is a cellular mediated response to the stress associated with PE. Fibroblast mediated proliferation. To get more nerdy there is usually a delay of one week from time of stress to maximal response. In our world though you'd need more than once a week PE sessions for growth. Recovery can and does happen alongside restressing the tissue and growth. Something to explore and keep in mind as you read others accounts. The "theory" many times might not be that accurate and if you operate with a less accurate theory you will likely have less than optimal results because a less than optimal approach. I'm not saying flat out wrong just less optimal.
Take xeno for example. I believe he was taking strain rates as that'll explain how he formed many of his ideas, or at least taking daily BPSFL. He operated under the microtears theory. He used hot tub equipped to go hotter than normal to do PE in and took regular decons. So he did some things that were revolutionary and I agree beneficial at the time. However his methods were extreme because he was trying to cause actual damage to create those microtears. So he'd stress his tissues extremely for a short time (2 week) then take a decon. That may have been less than optimal.
I now think it is a cellular mediated response to the stress associated with PE. Fibroblast mediated proliferation. To get more nerdy there is usually a delay of one week from time of stress to maximal response. In our world though you'd need more than once a week PE sessions for growth. Recovery can and does happen alongside restressing the tissue and growth. Something to explore and keep in mind as you read others accounts. The "theory" many times might not be that accurate and if you operate with a less accurate theory you will likely have less than optimal results because a less than optimal approach. I'm not saying flat out wrong just less optimal.
Take xeno for example. I believe he was taking strain rates as that'll explain how he formed many of his ideas, or at least taking daily BPSFL. He operated under the microtears theory. He used hot tub equipped to go hotter than normal to do PE in and took regular decons. So he did some things that were revolutionary and I agree beneficial at the time. However his methods were extreme because he was trying to cause actual damage to create those microtears. So he'd stress his tissues extremely for a short time (2 week) then take a decon. That may have been less than optimal.
Thank you, presenting my ideas has been something I've always struggled with so good to hear I'm getting better with practice.
