Update/Upgrade - Phallosan Forte & Phallosan plus+ just arrived - First impressions 
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Finally it arrived - another stretcher/extender, the Phallosan Forte(fire)
As I have set up the bar of goals high + I want to make it possible in only 2-3 years - I'm trying to find the best products in each category.
What does 'best' mean? For me it means:
1) Quality & Durability: Most products I will/want to use for at least 2-3 years every day. For extenders - multiple hours per day.
2) Gaining Effects: It doesn't help me when a product looks good & has a good quality, but doesn't help me making gains.
3) Usage: For which exercises can I use the pe-device? How much does it help me making my training routines and pe-life easier?
4) Wearing Cost/Consumption Cost: How often do I need to replace spare parts? How long can I use them?
There are lots of cheap extenders/pe-devices in general on ebay or other sites. But you always have to ask yourself if you want to save money on the short-term run or if it's maybe cheaper to buy 'more expensive' products which may have a better durability, quality and much more comfort.
I don't say that all 'expensive' products are better than cheap versions or DIY versions, but you always have to be smart and calculate for yourself.
For me, I'm trying to do one-time purchases and hope the products will last me for 2-3 years of daily use.
The packaging is nice, it looks good. Sadly the main box is very big, so there's not really a chance you'll able to take it with yourself while traveling. But for that reason they've included a travel bag - looks good and should be able to solve that problem.
I've ordered both versions - Phallosan forte & their rod system - Phallosan Plus+.
I'm owning all 3 versions of the Penimaster (Belt system, rod system, weight hanging system) so I can later maybe create a good comparison and showing the advantages and disadvantages of each extender.
What actually is included, you'll see on their website, I don't have to list it here again.
A big difference is already that you have 3 different glans chambers, the Penimaster only uses one, but uses different sizes of adhesion diaphragms for a perfect fit.
As for membranes/sluices they both use different sizes -S, M & L.
The Phallosan uses a protector cap to protect your glans and you have to put it over your glans. They exactly look like toe caps, if you every had an injury on one of your toes, you'll know what I mean, else you can google it.
Alright so you put it over your glans and put your glans into one of the chambers you picked (S/M/L) - this is completely different to the penimaster. It is not a 'perfect fit', else they would need hundreds of different glans chambers, but the protector cap is/should protecting your glans. In that way it should be possible that you don't need a perfect fitted chamber or membrane. But here you need to 100% make sure that the protector cap is fitted perfectly and no air is between your glans and the protector cap.
I've very often already mentioned it:
For vacuum extenders you want to make sure to get a perfect fit and 100% sealed vacuum, else you will get lymph/fluid retention and a swollen glans. On top of it you need a 100% sealed vacuum for a perfect blood circulation in your glans, so it doesn't get cold + vacuum extenders are the most comfortable and much better than nose strap extenders (try it yourself if you don't believe me).
Next Step:
Rolling down the silicone sleeve over your penis (which you rolled up before) and start to pump with the attached phallosan pump.
Here is another main difference between the Phallosan and the Penimaster, on the Phallosan the pump is always attached while you don't have attached a pump to your penimaster.
Now you're ready to go, attach the spare tension clip, put on the belt system and let's go!
1) One thing I already thought about when I've worn it for the first time a few hours ago:
Because the pump is attached + the spare tension clip + their locking system - it's much more noticeable under your clothes compared to the Penimaster, but maybe I can still figure a way out to solve this.
2) Spare tension clip - is it normal that this thing is making squeaking noises when you are walking?
Does anybody has some tricks or should we oil it? I'm just wearing it since around 3hours and everytime I'm moving/walking it's making noises. If I don't find a solution here, how should I wear it out in public and get my 13-15hrs of daily extender wearing...
3) Their locking system and tension clip seems to be made out of plastic. I don't know if this will be durable for 2-3 years of daily wearing if I'm honest.
Besides of the 3 points above, it seems to be a great quality product and will my replace my Penimaster Pro now for the next 1-2 weeks until I can make a decision which one I like the most and which one is helping me achieving my goals with the most comfort and best ways for gaining
Let's come to the next point - Phallosan Plus+:
Here I will really need some help and I'm completely lost if I compare it to the Penimaster Rod system.
I don't know if this is a bad joke or if it's actually real. I'm really trying to be rational here but if I compare it to my Penimaster rod system it just kinda makes me sad.
I've tried it 2 times so far, but it really is no way comparable to the rod system of their competition.
The first thing which really annoys me in a tremendous way is that I have to take my glans chamber off when I'm switching from the belt system to their rod system. Why couldn't they just make the base hole a little bit biggerso that the different chambers (S/M/L) are fitting through it?
Like common, this can't be true. So I actually have to take it off and then putting on the base ring + putting on the glans chamber again?! Man this is how you make good products complicated and really annoy customers with it.
So instead of switching between their belt and rod system in a comfortable way I have to re-attach it + putting on the glans chamber while I'm halfway in the rod system?
Maybe I'm already accustomed to the luxus of the Penimaster and that I can switch between all their systems without re-attaching their glans chamber and switching from belt to rod to weight hanging system in seconds... but this is really a no-go.
Quality:
Man... I don't wanna say too much about it so far and have to test it for a few days, but from what I'm seeing when comparing it to my other rod system, it's a shame. I'll get in contact with
@VoorheesXIII here but I'm not very happy about my purchase with the rod system so far.
What
@VoorheesXIII wrote:
https://mattersofsize.com/threads/phallosan-plus-snapped.1820224/
Thought this maybe would just have been a production mistake with his rod system snapping or so, but if I check the quality of the rod system, no, just NO, not for this amount of money!
Anyways, the belt system seems solid and I have to figure it out + will wear it for the next few days/weeks. After I've worn it for a decent amount of time I can give you a better comparison, this was just from my first impressions, looks and first 2hours of wearing it.
@Mike03016 @VoorheesXIII maybe you can help me with the points I've mentioned above. Would be thankful for your help
+ cleaning afterwards would take much more time compared with a hyddropump.
