case study extremely big problem. HELP SOMEBODY PLEASE....

somehow ive ended here after battling this injury for al most 6 months. im in my 40's . i had jelqed off and on and pumped for a month or 2. nothing serious. felt better, and hung better it seemed. no real serious gains expected. just wanted better bloodflow and quality.

one day, i jelqed a bit harder than i had been, but no pain, and jsut for a minute. next day i pumped and accidentally went more than i wanted. no pain. immediately released and red along the base of the shaft. within the day it was gone. several days later i woke up with a shrunken unit and slight numbess on the shaft. had all hard flaccid symptoms.

was scared, so continued making my self have sex,. after a month or so, it seemed it was subsiding. i still woke up in the morning with a chub. but everything shrank to nothing during the day.then it started seeming like if we had sex more than once a week, it would traumatize everything and destroy my libido and size again.

very sensitive glans with burning /cooling feeling. shrunk all day. no erections. no night erections. then it would come back a week later with her, and we'd have sex again. eventually i figured out we had to quit for awhile. 6 months later, here i am. we just went a month of nothing. i still walk around all day shrunk to nothing. we had sex 2 days ago and it was great, but now it seems to be overly sensitive again. only time i hang normally , is if i lay down in bed awhile. but soon after i get up, its all gone again.

sensitivity/nerve damage, seems likely, but not sure. nothing feels like me down there unless im hard. it doesnt seem like i did anything too hard/painful to cause this, but i obviously did. not sure if this will heal ever, but i cant take any more panic attacks and anxiety. its hard to make it to bedtime every day. its the only relief i get.

it feels like i have half what i did on a normal day now, with no arousal. ive also noticed a constant pressure moreso while shrunken, in my rectum /perenium area,that tightens when i flex my penis. i get decent morning/night erections sometimes, and sometimes not as much. but im sure my anxiety day to day is effecting that . i cannot masturbate to get hard since the 2nd month of this, due to it irritating the nerves it seems on the head. actual sex doesnt irritate it as much, but it still does.

i always have the numbness/sensitivity issue to some degree, but its super bad when its shriveled up and burns. im just not sure the nerves will heal, and i dont know what to do now. im mentally exhausted and depressed. i can barely force myself to work or do anything that involves moving. it lets me know every step of every day what ive lost.
 
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kriskros said:
Dude its been 4 months since your problem started and you didnt ever consulted an andrologist and an urologist. What are you talking about?
I came to this forum with 0 libido, 0 erections. Everyone can confirm it. I was whining like you. Even though I have so metanl issues and problems, so much depression, I found a way to do what everyone was saying here: Work on my self.
Thats it: You have to work on your self too.
I started with 0 erections and now I can do some exercises and I am more energitic into this.
You should too. Just pick up the phone and go to an andrologist for Gods sake.
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um no . its been 10 months now. and ive been to 3 urologists so far. i can get erections, just nothing feels good, and if i dont have an erection, i have a shrunken nonresponsive unit with not much feeling most times.or libido . i really dont understand what i did changing everything this bad in one day,but im not giving up. i stretch every day. and try to find new ones. i cant just go to the doctor. i have to wait for the appointment, and its rediculous how long out every doctor is.
Did you do something to hurt yourself, or what started it? and what stretches are helping? i feel some help with some of them. but not enough to make any long term difference. i just feel constricted , and burning/numb most of the time.
 
I had pelvic floor once. Big time so much pain but specific stretches are the pelvic area fixed everything. Just think that I was doing stretches daily for 3 months in a row to fix this.

My friend listen to me. You need an andrologist for this peyronie disease and a psychiatrist to help you

I am one of those guys who had problems. Trust me. I came here with 0 erecrions and brothers now helped me and I have erections.
 
kriskros said:
I had pelvic floor once. Big time so much pain but specific stretches are the pelvic area fixed everything. Just think that I was doing stretches daily for 3 months in a row to fix this.

My friend listen to me. You need an andrologist for this peyronie disease and a psychiatrist to help you

I am one of those guys who had problems. Trust me. I came here with 0 erecrions and brothers now helped me and I have erections.
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yes, but what caused your pelvic floor problem? i just dont think this is peyronies.
 
well, anxiety did not cause this. a bit aggressive jelqing did i believe. although, it just doesnt seem real to cause such a thing. but it dang sure is adding more anxiety to it now.
 
Anxiety due to the sudden penile injury is a dopemine and endorphine killer to keep your sexual moods up. It also produces more cortisol and reduces nitric oxide as well. So yes, anxiety is one factorial cause to induce extreme ED. @kriskros is dead on the topic. This is why PE requires optimistic mindset.
 
yes. understood. ive worked on anxiety immensley lately, and ive been getting slightly better mentally. its just the physical feeling swings, and shrinkage/pain . hard to figure out what to do to get past it. after rubbing it this morning, its changed the feel again, and libido. size isnt as tragic . but im still tight as a rock internally when i sit down it feels like. i just cant get anything to release
 
What I'm suggesting is going to sound strange, but bare with me and decide according to your needs. There are tools out there that massage your pelvic muscles without engaging your muscles to tighten.

External:

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I used to have this when I injured my pelvic muscles from cycling incidents.

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If you feel comfortable enough, you also have internal. My wife uses this during bad pelvic period due to oddball traumas:
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There are many, many, many newer tools now. This is just an intro to a unique approach.
 
Those things @oldandlively showed are amazing and help big time. I am one of the guys that their DNA changes massively when psychology changes. For example it is as @oldandlively stated above. When I get stressed my cortisol levels go so up that the doctors though I had autoimmune disease and it was just anxiety...lol.
Stress can kill you, literally
 
kriskros said:
Those things @oldandlively showed are amazing and help big time. I am one of the guys that their DNA changes massively when psychology changes. For example it is as @oldandlively stated above. When I get stressed my cortisol levels go so up that the doctors though I had autoimmune disease and it was just anxiety...lol.
Stress can kill you, literally
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You are correct. Your DNAs are programmed to do the stupidest things when we are under stresses. It's designed for ancient flight and fight adaptation when our environments do not provided the resources to survive. In the modern days, we have abundant of resources, but our bodies have not changed from their original survival programming. Unfortunately, we can't program our cells like a computer program. Well, not yet anyway.

PE requires a strong mindset, positive outlook, and constantly be uplifted in looking forward for the new gains. This is why this brotherhood uplifts one another and support each other with our experiences, wisdom, and knowledge. Stresses and negativity will kill your PE and your life.
 
well ,as ive mentioned. i dont want any PE nor any gains. i just want my original ,non stupid life back , and my fantastic wife. but funny you mentioned internal, cause i was just about to buy one of those today cause this is getting rediculous really. i never thought standing up or walking would be so life destroying till this.
 
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You are correct. Your DNAs are programmed to do the stupidest things when we are under stresses. It's designed for ancient flight and fight adaptation when our environments do not provided the resources to survive. In the modern days, we have abundant of resources, but our bodies have not changed from their original survival programming. Unfortunately, we can't program our cells like a computer program. Well, not yet anyway.

PE requires a strong mindset, positive outlook, and constantly be uplifted in looking forward for the new gains. This is why this brotherhood uplifts one another and support each other with our experiences, wisdom, and knowledge. Stresses and negativity will kill your PE and your life.
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So true
 
well, by thursday night, my pelvic stretching must be starting to show some kind of results. i got a LOT of those opening up feelings during my daily stretching that morning and night. and then later, my wife got in bed, and i instantly got hard and it feltand appeared normal again. we had sex for a little bit , (didnt finish). but it was amazing what difference it was from before. since then , all day friday and sat, i still felt those rushing feelings in my pelvis. and my flaccid size improved for the most part. feeling was better too. but of course, it kinda started going back the other way last night, and i didnt get as much response from stretching. night times are still the best feeling i get, and size. today wasnt bad, but not great. while im on my feet, i just lose all that happy in the pants feeling i ever had. i just feel almost nothing it seems. and constricted. its making progress, but its a rough road. its so baffling the feeling difference/or lack of i can feel jsut by sitting down, stretching, vs walking around and doing things. hard road, but im going on and trying more and more.
 
the blood flow is crap most days. i literally woke up the first day to this constriction. its just got worse and worse. its all starting to tighten back up on me today ,and im starting to get a little pain and burning again . its so unreal how this makes your junk feel like its totally gone. so unreal. but what i felt thursday and the erection i got gives me some hope some day. i didnt even touch my dick at all. it just worked. and strong. today,i wouldnt take my clothes off around anybody if they paid me. its night and day.

but now back like i was, i have hardly any feeling or anything. i just hope i can get out one day. whenever that is.
 
at this point ive logged a lot of data and tried to compare and figure out whats going on. keeping a good head and jsut trying to stay positive. i know its in there somewhere(penis) cause it comes out sometimes, and ive managed to get a normal feeling(enough anyway) every now and again.

So, im not convinced theres nerve "damage" at this point. but not exactly sure. It seems so pelvic floor involved, and hard flaccid like from what im experiencing. ive continually lost flaccid size and girth more and more since this started. i used to get it back at night, but now it seems like its gone all the time mostly when my rectum is really tight, and i get tightness when i kegel. right now im tight as a rock again. i havent been able to recreate that relief i got last week from stretching like i did. but it happened. and when it did, my flaccid hung like it used to , and i got feeling back, and no pain, and full erections.

as opposed to when im tight, i get zero hang. very thin, lifeless. i cant flex it at all. I just feel tightness inside. And the tighter and smaller i get, the less feeling i have but the more sensitive the tip is. which is ungodly annoying and belittling. and when im like this, i can manually get an erection, but it fights me for a minute, and only gets partially there, but when im tight, i get premature ejac really bad. and when i have a partial erection, ill start to climax. if i ride that out and dont cum, ill get fully hard over the next 10 seconds, but its kinda painful from the pelvic floor up through the penis. at that point, it will stay hard as long as i like, but i want to cum the whole time , bad. and my erection has a tender spongy feel to it , and looks very flushed and seems like my length is restricted a tad. and just feels overall tight everywhere . something about the tightness does weird things here. and when i let it go soft, im back to restricted thin nothing again with no feeling.

when i was able to get relief stretching and i have a normal girthy flaccid, my erection was effortless. and i never touched it. that never happens anymore when im shrunk. never. and there was no flushing, or shortness, or tender sponginess . And i dont have premature ejaculation NEARLY as bad,... this explains a whole lot of early on when id wake up with raging erections at night, and have sex and everything felt normal as could be. Then within a few days, id be a complete basketcase and a numb shrunken nutcase. i didnt notice the internal involuntary clenching. and afterward, my flaccid stayed a lot better, and even had decent chub during sleep, and the next morning.

today was pretty tight and feelingless, but i had a couple moments out of the blue where i was in a certain position , and everythign seemed to flow for a bit. and i felt response when i kegeled, and things felt more relaxed. so i know its in there. but man, it doesnt happen often, and the rest of the time, its downright depressing, and painful . i cant consistently release this crap yet, but im gonna keep trying till i can find out how.
 
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Interesting. So, do keep observation on the following:
  • Normal kegel vs reversed kegel. Normal kegel tightens the pelvic floor and anal sphincter. This is the opposite of what you want. But do observe on what you've done to get the relief.
  • The mount of kegel tensions in seconds and reps. Keep logs on what you've done in intensity and reps to obtain that normalized feeling. This is definitely crucial to find the trend.
  • Positions laid or standing that you discovered to assist in reliefs. That may be something that could trigger the tightness from the pelvic to do the tugging against the penile body, causing shrinkage. This is both muscles and nerves from the perennial and pubococcygeous that effects this bizarre phenomena.
If we can get more info along the way using the approaches and observations, you might hit the nails on the head to find the methods to incite the ultimate solution. You may be nearly at the end of the tunnel.
 
i donnnt do normal kegels at all. not repetivively anyway. i constantly try reverse kegels, but it most times feels like it just wont relax to there. even if i force it. as i woke up this morning, i rubbed it a bit, and it responds pretty decent,cause im relaxed. better erection and firmer , not as spongy as when forced in daytime. feels amazing, but i gotta figure out a way to tone this glans sensitivity down now. all i wann do is get off the whole time. after awhile i can hardly touch it more than one stroke or 2. but its been out of service awhile
 
Constant kegels will benefit you in erection size and hardness. Reverse kegels don't always "feel it" but know they are working
 
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Constant kegels will benefit you in erection size and hardness. Reverse kegels don't always "feel it" but know they are working
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not with what i have going on. all i get is a sore butthole feeling. its literally like im blocked off from any blood flow unless i already have an erection from sleeping. or manually getting one. thenn and only then can the kegel make anything happen. i used to feel reverse kegels just fine. not so much now, unless its a rare day when i can get whatever this is to release the shrinkage and i have bloodflow
 
well. im not sure where to go from here. but ive been trying some edging every morning just to keep erections going and see if theyre painful ,etc. the last several days, theve worked fine and werent painful ,and look good. my flaccid size is still not my penis and thin and short. i cannot seem to get that back ever now. not even at night or morning as it was a few months ago. i cant seem to replicate the stretching relief and opening up feeling i had last week which resulted in an erection i didnt provoke. havent had one since. i have to manually get them. rest of the day is shrunk and no kegel response, etc. nighttime erections are still there, but dont seem to be near as strong as months ago, nor does it make me want to use them. pretty numb glans through the entire day. but a senstive tip that tingles some. but i can feel everything good masturbating. so good that its oversensitive and i cant last more than 20 seconds without having urge to cum. so, thats my day every now. it blows. i have to have some degree of nerve damage on glans to be like this i think. and i still have kinda a ghost burning.

the day this happened, i woke up smaller,felt smaller. had no sexual arousal. and from then on, it was a roller coaster of up and down libido which wasnt mental. no semen leaking before sex. still isnt to this day. and i had that all the time. i was a mental erection all the time. pretty much all that is gone now. what gets me, is that even though a month or so into it, even though i had numbness. maybe more than i do now, i remember getting aroused in the morning, and id carry that with me some of the day. and had spontaneous arousals. id even wake up rock hard at night sometimes. all that just faded, and faded, and left. i dont know what i did exactly, but i sure wish id never have read what i read and stayed where i was at. stuck in this waiting game with no direction or hope is not a very good time.

its all come down to my feeling being most of the problem i think. unless theres something really pelvic causing it to be numb. its just weird how nonexistant and tingly the tip can feel in my pants. but if i get it out, i can rub it and it feels really decent sometimes. and will get hard and ejaculate. other times i rub it (usually in evening after day is done) and it feels downright wrong and not good at all . those are usually days it hurts when i finally do get hard. i just have a hard time understanding hardly any feeling walking around, but great feeling when manually stimulating. im not sure theres a lot of improvement to healing being 10 months along, but im not real sure either
 
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well. im not sure where to go from here. but ive been trying some edging every morning just to keep erections going and see if theyre painful ,etc. the last several days, theve worked fine and werent painful ,and look good. my flaccid size is still not my penis and thin and short. i cannot seem to get that back ever now. not even at night or morning as it was a few months ago. i cant seem to replicate the stretching relief and opening up feeling i had last week which resulted in an erection i didnt provoke. havent had one since. i have to manually get them. rest of the day is shrunk and no kegel response, etc. nighttime erections are still there, but dont seem to be near as strong as months ago, nor does it make me want to use them. pretty numb glans through the entire day. but a senstive tip that tingles some. but i can feel everything good masturbating. so good that its oversensitive and i cant last more than 20 seconds without having urge to cum. so, thats my day every now. it blows. i have to have some degree of nerve damage on glans to be like this i think. and i still have kinda a ghost burning.

the day this happened, i woke up smaller,felt smaller. had no sexual arousal. and from then on, it was a roller coaster of up and down libido which wasnt mental. no semen leaking before sex. still isnt to this day. and i had that all the time. i was a mental erection all the time. pretty much all that is gone now. what gets me, is that even though a month or so into it, even though i had numbness. maybe more than i do now, i remember getting aroused in the morning, and id carry that with me some of the day. and had spontaneous arousals. id even wake up rock hard at night sometimes. all that just faded, and faded, and left. i dont know what i did exactly, but i sure wish id never have read what i read and stayed where i was at. stuck in this waiting game with no direction or hope is not a very good time.

its all come down to my feeling being most of the problem i think. unless theres something really pelvic causing it to be numb. its just weird how nonexistant and tingly the tip can feel in my pants. but if i get it out, i can rub it and it feels really decent sometimes. and will get hard and ejaculate. other times i rub it (usually in evening after day is done) and it feels downright wrong and not good at all . those are usually days it hurts when i finally do get hard. i just have a hard time understanding hardly any feeling walking around, but great feeling when manually stimulating. im not sure theres a lot of improvement to healing being 10 months along, but im not real sure either
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Sorry to hear that @Truth in Ruin

Sitting for the long drive, bearing down on the pelvic floor and perineal nerves and blood vessels, including the dorsal nerve bundles.

The hard flaccid seems to be more and more prominent case regardless of PE or not. It appears anykind of injuries on the pelvic floor triggers the HFS. Plenty of blog pages and forums are coming forward about this in the past decades now. I suffered similar HFS when I injured myself with my cycling routines in the past. It can indeed be frustrating but we need to be calm and relaxed while facing the injuries.

Out of curiosity, what supplements and exercises have you performed so far?

Kegel is not the way to fix but reverse kegel to relax is. Since my injuries (reoccurring during stupidity of youth riding), I use seat cushions to place my pelvic floor in constant relaxation. Reverse kegels while sitting straight to promote blood flow since I drive quite a bit as well. At times, up to 20 hours straight, then 5 hours downtime before another 20 hours of driving. Hydration is something I always encouraged those around me to do, since good blood flow needs good volume of water. Nutrients rich foods is part of my diets beside supplementing what I lack along the way, without any fad diets.

There are still too many unknown factors at play, and medical journals are not releasing the studies and results fast enough. Share with the brothers what you discovered so we can provide directionality to those who suffer HFS. Information overload everywhere.
 
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Sorry to hear that @Truth in Ruin

Sitting for the long drive, bearing down on the pelvic floor and perineal nerves and blood vessels, including the dorsal nerve bundles.

The hard flaccid seems to be more and more prominent case regardless of PE or not. It appears anykind of injuries on the pelvic floor triggers the HFS. Plenty of blog pages and forums are coming forward about this in the past decades now. I suffered similar HFS when I injured myself with my cycling routines in the past. It can indeed be frustrating but we need to be calm and relaxed while facing the injuries.

Out of curiosity, what supplements and exercises have you performed so far?

Kegel is not the way to fix but reverse kegel to relax is. Since my injuries (reoccurring during stupidity of youth riding), I use seat cushions to place my pelvic floor in constant relaxation. Reverse kegels while sitting straight to promote blood flow since I drive quite a bit as well. At times, up to 20 hours straight, then 5 hours downtime before another 20 hours of driving. Hydration is something I always encouraged those around me to do, since good blood flow needs good volume of water. Nutrients rich foods is part of my diets beside supplementing what I lack along the way, without any fad diets.

There are still too many unknown factors at play, and medical journals are not releasing the studies and results fast enough. Share with the brothers what you discovered so we can provide directionality to those who suffer HFS. Information overload everywhere.
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The reason I sat on my floor like I did for 5 hours was because my anus was sore from the previous 15 hour drive I did… reason for the sore anus was due to how I was sitting… I was sitting in such a way to stay off the pelvic floor. It worked, but it was a pain-in-the-a** so I opted to sit normally during the second drive. I wish I hadn’t.
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Yep. That was why I have to get my own type of cushions to keep my pelvic floor and tailbone off the hard surfaces. Ergonomic chairs pretty much. Long drive, I sit up straight, tilt slightly upright, and on the cushion to only engage my glutes.

Truth in Ruin said:
When I’m on my feet, I’ve been stuck in Hard Flaccid. Almost always. When I have to urinate, the penis will switch to normal, then get hard again upon completion. I think I’ve noticed something, though… if I have to urinate, but get stuck holding it until there’s a proper time to go, I’ve it’s normal at those times. Also, when I lay down, Hard Flaccid symptoms go away completely. In other words, if I just laid around all day, I wouldn’t have Hard Flaacid. Also, Hard Flaccid goes away when fondled while sitting, standing ect., but returns to Hard Flaccid almost immediately when discontinued.
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Yep. Blood flow is what you need. I watch Doc Hink, and he got some ideas right, and some wrong. HFS is unique to each individual, and this is why it's not fully understood. In your case, any blood flow and natural blood constriction helps with your HFS, include any minor blood pressure equalization across your lower regions. Standing or sitting all day cause blood pressure fluctuations, pulling the blood away from the penis.

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PS- 20 hours is crazy!
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20 hours is considered as normal when we have to push across the states on rushed projects. We normally do a 72 hours marathon, and may have do drive up to 36 hours in one go when someone got sick and can't switch. That was brutal.
 
destroyed the pump today. life is pretty useless after messig with somethig i should have left as it was. sex is all over . the rest of the day is actually worse
 
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destroyed the pump today. life is pretty useless after messig with somethig i should have left as it was. sex is all over . the rest of the day is actually worse
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What happened to your pump?
 
a bathmate. doesnnt matter.. i wish id nnever saw one. i cant win this no matter what i do. im out of energy. its unreal the amount of trying and stress just to make it to the next time i can lay down and go to bed. theres just no fixing this. almost 2 weeks ago , things seemed to be coming around. then crashed horribly, and i cant even feel my penis or get aroused to save my life still today. screwing with what god made has ruined my entire life. of all things to kill me, this is a horrible way to die. and i have a lot to live for. a lot. if any body could feel this for 5 minutes, youd run from this nonsense forever
 
I would take a few weeks off concentrating on deep tissue massage.
 
As @DLD said, we are here to help. Just to reconfirm that one of our brothers use triggering massage techniques as well. I mentioned this in the prior posts, but I stopped after you indicated it doesn't work for you to massage. However, something to read at a different vantage point of view, thanks to brother @bucolic:

Post in thread 'Thank you for this' Thank you for this

This is one of 7 massage methods provided to me by a colleague in China. But if massages do not interest you, I simple place them on the back shelves for other brothers to use later.
 
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As @DLD said, we are here to help. Just to reconfirm that one of our brothers use triggering massage techniques as well. I mentioned this in the prior posts, but I stopped after you indicated it doesn't work for you to massage. However, something to read at a different vantage point of view, thanks to brother @bucolic:

Post in thread 'Thank you for this' Thank you for this

This is one of 7 massage methods provided to me by a colleague in China. But if massages do not interest you, I simple place them on the back shelves for other brothers to use later.
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Absolutely true. You can get frustrated but we will never up on you
 
i thik feelig this way for this amout of time makes it close to impossile to correct. sexual iterest is pretty much a zero these days . just to rid myself of the hurt is mostly all i hope for
 
Once again, most of this starts with a strong mental reset. We have brothers who are shy, devastated, lost, emotional, and the list keeps going. At the end of the list, we all have to acknowledge our losts, our failures, and our woes. We need to stand up, buckle up, strength our hearts and minds, move forward even if we have to crawl, and take every know measure with a healing of of hope and prayers for miracles for the days ahead. Giving up is not an option. Laying around and cry is not an option. Keep your mind positive and do whatever you can to even inch forward is the option. Curse not onto others for the curses return to you in magnifications. Bless each other and stand with one another to share the burdens will yield the benefits and rewards as a whole. This is one of the motto of this brotherhood.

Be strong. Move forward with whatever strength you can mustard in positivity.
 
i just go to work. thats all i have really. everythig is restricted ,hurts, disappeared. i like work. this just so happes to make it extremely difficult to do that also
 
im stuck right here . totally small 24hrs. with exceptio of erectio while sleep. erection burns internnally slightly. no libido whatsoever in the penis. mental is still there. if i kegel with a good thought, all i get is a pressured wall feelig, with barely any response. many times, with pain up though centrally i the shaft. stinging in glans while shrunk at times all day. cant seem to get the free flowign feeling ever again while stretching like i have inn the past. its all kinda stopped happening.

i can make it hard bby masturbating, but it seems to lack a bit of size. feels weird, and has a light iternal burn. and glans still has the sameweird feeling. all day while shrunk, the feeling lacks a lot and onnly gets better if were to get my size to release . its a pretty hopeless mess.
 
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i didt either till i woke up permanently shrunken and lifeless. nobbody will understand till it happens to them most likely.
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Be strong I hope you will get back to your former self in due time. Very appreciated that you share your story in.

case study - extremely big problem. HELP SOMEBODY PLEASE....

It will help many others. There needs to be safty involved in penis enlargement, that is the reason I no longer like Bathmate (due to lack of a vaccum gauge and control).

Personally I threw away all my Bathmate pumps, going from MityVac Hydro-Vac Penis Pump to Bathmate, made me realize there where no contol during the pumping sessions. I could go up in to much vaccum pressure without realizing it (Due to VacuVin mod). And then ended my session with a to dull feeling penis. This was the point I realize MityVac was thousands times better then Bathmate when it comes to water pumping.
I'm sorry I love Bathmate but I'm loving MityVac Hydro-Vac Penis Pump even more.

The non modded Bathmate pumps are much safer, but for me the vaccum pressure was not enough to keep gaining. Going high in vaccum pressure and not knowing what vaccum pressure you are using can't be safe. It didn't felt good to me. This comes from a guy that worshipped Bathmate pumps before. They made me gain a lot in the past, but MityVac Hydro-Vac Penis Pump made me gain even faster but in a much more safer way.

Hope you recover brother.
 
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