DSD Progress log

[DSD80]

7/10/24

Warmup: heatpad. Alternate 4 bundles stretches @1.5 turns for 1min hold and 10 downward gua sha scrapes each side x2
In bath..
Mityvac water pump 2.125x12” cylinder using my new 1L water trap…
Alternating with 30s hand-clamp and 1 min compression hold each side and various light jelqs
5mins total @6Hg
6mins total @work up to 7Hg
6mins total @work up to 8Hg
7mins total @work up to 9Hg
Not much after..

No edema. Expansion was good, up to 9.25 inches. It seemed like more expansion girthwise but hard to know.

Review of 1L water trap: superior. In many ways. When using the dinky water trap, the pressure dial always flies up a few notches then settles down. With the big water trap, pressure moves very consistently just like when pumping air. Also, as others have reported, with the small water trap, you really have to connect to the pump line AFTER first entering the cylinder. Otherwise, you push water into the tubing and waste that water fill. With the big water trap, this isn’t necessary. And of course, after 4 pumps, I don’t think the trap was even half full. I was able to wrap the tubing(without any kinks) around the faucet so the trap/jug was basically floating on the surface of bath so I can just hold the pump gun and focus on relaxing.

I think next session is going to be better now that I found how to set up the trap. Now I just have to enter the cylinder and start pumping. I was a little cautious at first because the pressure was moving differently but now I can tell it is more accurate.

 

[DSD80]

7/11/24

Warmup: heatpad. 4 bundles stretches @1.5 turns for 1min hold, 2 bundled stretches @1.5 turns for 1min hold, increasing into 2 turns for 20s. 10 downward gua sha scrapes each side after each 4 bundles.
In bath..
Mityvac water pump 2.125x12” cylinder with 1L water trap. Alternate with hand-clamp holds and compressions holds 3-5mins total. Did not do between each set..
5mins total @work up to 7Hg
5mins total @work up to 8Hg
6mins total @work up to 9Hg
7mins total @work up to 10Hg
Hand-clamps and compression holds of 30-60s each. Cockring only 20mins.
Expansion: I may have gotten close to 9.5 inch mark last set at 10Hg. Otherwise, EQ wasn’t great overall.

I keep saying I need to just wait out the EQ. Sometimes I just need to do more warmup or get my mind right. I think I want to do more like 2-3min pumps until the EQ and mind are where I want them to be. OR I start at like 3Hg and wait until natural erection hits and pelvic floor relaxes.

As far as developing edema or worse things, what really matters the most inside the cylinder? Is it the total pressure x time? Like what is the difference between being at 3Hg for 3mins then ramping up to 8Hg for 5 more minutes versus 8Hg for a full 8 minutes straight? Does the 3Hg count? Does it count more toward the 10 mins max?

Another question: If I am maxing pressure of my top set at 10Hg, how are my warmup sets affected? I’ve been treating 4-5Hg as my warmup because they are slightly above internal pressure of normal erection. But after that, do I need to increment 6,7,8,9,10?

 

[oldandlively]

Expansion: I may have gotten close to 9.5 inch mark last set at 10Hg. Otherwise, EQ wasn’t great overall.

I can understand if you pursue girth expansion over EQ during days you're not pumping a vagina. That's perfectly fine. But on days you're going to enjoy yourself, worry about the EQ.

I keep saying I need to just wait out the EQ. Sometimes I just need to do more warmup or get my mind right. I think I want to do more like 2-3min pumps until the EQ and mind are where I want them to be. OR I start at like 3Hg and wait until natural erection hits and pelvic floor relaxes.

If you're trying to improve EQ, don't wait on it. Work at it. Using low to moderate pressure, and then switch up to higher pressure using dynamic pressure approaches. For me, to "train" my EQ, my go straight to 5inHg even in my flaccid state after so many sets already, BUT, I get my natural erection up at this pressure. NO IFs or BUTs. Allow your pelvic flood to relax after achieving the erection to get more blood ready for further erectile pressure through quick and light kegels. If you must, get your heart rate up. I tend to get up, do a bit of stretching just to get the blood pressure to rise. If you're in a bath, just doing a few hip thrusts will get your blood pressure rising.

As far as developing edema or worse things, what really matters the most inside the cylinder?

While I don't want any edemas or worst things, yes, what most matter is the proper pressure based on your current conditions. If you're fatigue, get out of the cylinder. If you're able to get your erection up, yet, do it inside the cylinder. As we suggested, get into the cylinder while you're erected. It's not needed at the start, but once you hit 3 to 5inHg, you must get your erection up.

Is it the total pressure x time?

Total internal pressure x time, yes. Total external pressure x time, no. External pressure only translates to 50% of internal pressure. That extra 50% or more must come from a full, strong erection.

Like what is the difference between being at 3Hg for 3mins then ramping up to 8Hg for 5 more minutes versus 8Hg for a full 8 minutes straight?

All based on your internal erectile pressure. You can be at 15inHg external pressure, but your internal remains at 50%, you're not benefiting anything but a nice donut penis with full of fluid retention.

Does the 3Hg count? Does it count more toward the 10 mins max?

Try 4inHg. 3 to 3.5inHg is considered average range of a healthy erection. Even at 4.5inHg for quite a few healthy men. This is why the 5inHg is the starting point of the magical growth. But once again, your penis must be at full erection to acount towards the 10 minutes. However, 10 minutes under pressure 3inHg is just a normal erection. 10 minutes under 5inHg may cause fluid retention. This is why we try to cap at 5 minutes. You can try 3inHg to 5inHg in a dynamic pressure rise and fall. 1 minute at 3inHg, 1 minute at 5inHg, and back and forth during a full erection. This will count toward the 10 minutes as optimal low pressure pumping.

Another question: If I am maxing pressure of my top set at 10Hg, how are my warmup sets affected?

None. Your warm up is either through warming media (blower, heated rice sock, etc) or through manual stretches and SSJ. Going from 0inHg to 10inHg without any of the mentioned is pumping weight at 200lbs without allowing your muscles to prep before hitting the heavy weights. You'll snap something.

BUT, when you hit max pressure at 10inHg somewhere in the latter sets, more blood brings in warmth and frictious expansion. That will be a continuation on the "warm-up" you're looking for.

I’ve been treating 4-5Hg as my warmup because they are slightly above internal pressure of normal erection. But after that, do I need to increment 6,7,8,9,10?

4-5inHg is fine as a pre-workout expansion. If you use SSJ, it also counts toward the total warmup you're looking for. If you're just pumping, it may be the 3rd or 4th 4-5inHg before your tissues are sufficiently warmed up. It's a bit trickier to warm up soft tissues than your muscles.

 

[DSD80]

Thanks for thorough response. What I mean about working up to 10Hg as top pressure is am I adding in more sets? Or once I am 'warmed up' I am ready to go to top pressure? Of course I am using heatpad, the usually bundled stretching and some various jelqs. And then I hop in bath where the bathwater is quite warm. The tissues are certainly warmed and the tunica is fairly primed.

 

[oldandlively]

What I mean about working up to 10Hg as top pressure is am I adding in more sets?

Yes, you can. Try to do a dynamic pressure between 8inHg and 10inHg for one of the sets, or even a few more additional sets. What you're doing is causing expansion, contraction, and re-expansion, while maintaining a safe approach. Those who stay continuous at 10inHg will achieve the same as doing dynamic pressurization between 8inHg and 10inHg. It's not about the pressure you're forcing your penis to go under. It's about how much internal pressure you can push while using external pressure to assist internal expansion. You only need 30 to 60 seconds under the higher pressure to force your tissues to yield and expand. Going up and down does just that.

Or once I am 'warmed up' I am ready to go to top pressure? Of course I am using heatpad, the usually bundled stretching and some various jelqs. And then I hop in bath where the bathwater is quite warm. The tissues are certainly warmed and the tunica is fairly primed.

Once you're sufficiently warmed up, be the 1st pumping or the last pumping, if you know you're ready, go to the max your penis can handle. This is why SSJ before pumping helps with pre-expansion and you can manually control how much blood goes into the penis for expansion in the latter sets. It sounds like you're sufficiently warmed up just through the stretches and jelqs before pumping. You're pretty much primed to go high on the second pump (not the first). Reserve the first pump set to perform pre-expansion for safety reasons, even though you already primed it. Safety's first.

 

[DSD80]

7/11/24

night session

Warmup: heatpad, light jelqs

Mityvac air pumping alternating with 30s hand-clamp, 30s o-grip compression, 30s glans compression each hand.

2x9.25” cylinder warmup
4HG 2” 7mins

2.125x12” cylinder with heatpad wrapped
Up to 10Hg. Waited on 4Hg for at least 3 mins. Probably total of 8 mins. Too long in tube but expansion was rather good.
Only 5Hg. Mostly 4Hg. 10 mins. Wasn’t feeling it. Not quite erection I wanted..
Up to 10Hg. Total 10mins. Mostly at 4Hg. Felt the natural erection. too long in cylinder again..

Definitely edema. Not a great session. Stayed in pump too long. Took too long to regain natural erection. Was honestly feeling a bit bored. Pumping twice a day most days and looking at the same stuff gets stale. Also trying to be quiet. Can’t use vibrator in room.

Still not in normal swing of things after my move and foot slowing me down.

Still need to work on shortening my sessions. Problem with long sessions isn't just the time investment. To maintain erection, I gotta have some viewing materials and if I spending like 3 hrs watching that every day, I get bored and will seek new stuff or consolidating collection. I recently deleted all my mainstream naked people stuff and just watching mostly strip tease, dancing, solo stuff. I don't want to go back.. but watching for hours a day starts to drive that.

Note: It bothers me that I don’t get much expansion in the glans and inner foreskin area. At greatest expansion, I am close to or packing sides about 2/3 up shaft in 2.125” tube.

 

[DSD80]

7/12/24

Warmup: just warm water and jelqs. Bath was quite hot this time. When I got in I almost couldn't bear it. And I was sweating for the first 20 mins probably.

EQ was consistently poor..

Mityvac water pump 2.125x12” cylinder with 1L water trap. Alternate with hand-clamp holds and compressions(o-grip and over glans) holds 3-5mins total

I did not count my sets.. Was probably 6-8 sets. I did not feel like I was getting a natural erection at all until last set. I went into the pump only semi-erect. At first I figured I’d just use a few sets to get things moving but after the 3rd set, I was purposely going in semi-erect. Although I did not feel full erection, width expansion seemed there. I worked extra hard on the compressions between sets with theory that I could prime girth expansion even with a lazy pump. Who knows whether it worked…

5-6mins @4Hg then 5Hg for last 30s x 6-8 sets

Last set 7 mins @4Hg, 5Hg at 5m mark, got up to 8Hg.

I actually filled the water trap with so many sets lol.. I was so surprised I didn’t realize it, just thought pump was acting funny but it was actually a few inches from water going into pump gun..

I think I need to have more orgasms during the week. This abstaining so as not to affect my girthwork isn’t working. I think it affects me mentally. I am going to start having orgasm every other morning and go 2 a day pump sessions on the alternate days.

I seem to have this pattern of amazing expansion then days of disappointment. I think I need to cool off after the amazing days and have the mindset that every day doesn’t have to be the best expansion ever. As long as I am getting like 5-10%, I am still being productive.

 

[DSD80]

7/13/24

Warmup: heatpad, light jelqs

Just messing around today.. I might be a bit off in what I did

Mityvac AIR 2.125x12” cylinder
5-6mins @3Hg.. 4Hg.. I think in the last minute or so I did dynamic pressure 15s up, 5s down to 4Hg. 5,6, maybe 7. Note: went in semi-erect low% as a warmup.
5mins @dynamic pressure 4-9. 15s up, 5s down. Up to 5,6,7,8,9. Did get natural erection.

In shower. Did some minor amounts of compressions and hand-clamps. Then used vibrator to have orgasm.
Dried off and started doing light jelqs. I wanted to see if I can pump after orgasm..

Went in at like 30-40% erection, 6mins @dynamic pressure Bottom 4Hg and top 5,6,7. 15s up, 5sec relax. I was getting natural erection. Had that slight restricted feeling often after orgasm.
I had a surge in EQ out of the pump..
Went in 2nd pump at 90+% 6mins @dynamic pressure Bottom 4Hg and top 5,6,7,8. 15s up, 5sec relax. I was getting natural erection. Had that slight restricted feeling often after orgasm.

Cockring 20mins

I don’t know how productive all that was.

 

[DSD80]

Night

Some hand-clamping and light jelqing. Did 4 sets of kegels, 10 reps x 14s with 5s relax between.

Going to see if I can manage to take a break from pumping and hard manuals until my discoloration is gone. Skin on underside is like a deep color.

 

[DSD80]

Taking a break until next Sunday. And when I do come back, going to have a schedule of only doing hard bundles twice a week, gua sha twice a week, and red light only 3 times. Problem with hard bundles is that it seems to open up those fordyce spots on underside of shaft, a lot of discoloration near glans, and stretches the turkey neck too much.

 

[DLD]

Taking a break until next Sunday. And when I do come back, going to have a schedule of only doing hard bundles twice a week, gua sha twice a week, and red light only 3 times. Problem with hard bundles is that it seems to open up those fordyce spots on underside of shaft, a lot of discoloration near glans, and stretches the turkey neck too much.

Enjoy your time off! You deserve this

 

[DSD80]

7/16/24

Hmm. Not sure what is going on with my dick. 3rd day without pumping or anything aggressive and the discoloration and red/dark spots are more than ever. Last 3 days has just been masturbating with some hand-clamping and light squashes. Nothing aggressive. Using vibrator and coconut oil. Beginning to wonder if I've developed some reaction to coconut oil or something. Or maybe the hand-clamping is a bit new and I am reacting to that. I'm not squeezing for more than 1 min or so at a time. The foreskin below the inner foreskin is a dark purplish color. There doesn't feel like any bumps, its just discoloration. Feeling a little counterproductive if 3 days off pumping and the discoloration is getting worse. Maybe it's not the pumping at all.

Maybe I just literally leave my dick alone for 3-4 days and see what happens..

 

[oldandlively]

7/16/24

Hmm. Not sure what is going on with my dick. 3rd day without pumping or anything aggressive and the discoloration and red/dark spots are more than ever. Last 3 days has just been masturbating with some hand-clamping and light squashes. Nothing aggressive. Using vibrator and coconut oil. Beginning to wonder if I've developed some reaction to coconut oil or something. Or maybe the hand-clamping is a bit new and I am reacting to that. I'm not squeezing for more than 1 min or so at a time. The foreskin below the inner foreskin is a dark purplish color. There doesn't feel like any bumps, its just discoloration. Feeling a little counterproductive if 3 days off pumping and the discoloration is getting worse. Maybe it's not the pumping at all.

Maybe I just literally leave my dick alone for 3-4 days and see what happens..

I think you may be developing reaction to coconut oil. Try to switch to olive oil. Do wash the oil off after a few hours of usages. It could be bacterial formation that irritate the skin after 6 hours.

As for the discoloration, that's definitely from the extra aggressive work using the hand clamping method. Worry not. Just make sure to cycle more blood through the penis more often by doing more erection work, or just ease up on the hand clamping method.

 

[DSD80]

Is hand-clamping considered aggressive? It's just a standard o-grip. Why would that cause red spots? I'm just trying not to draw my grip along the shaft while under pressure. Pumping definitely causes more expansion than hand-clamping.

I've been using coconut for years. Although, I did notice when I was scooping it out of the container that it was a lot of 'pulp' since the oil had separated, probably from not being stirred in a bit. Maybe there were a lot of particles that causes abrasion?

 

[oldandlively]

Is hand-clamping considered aggressive? It's just a standard o-grip. Why would that cause red spots? I'm just trying not to draw my grip along the shaft while under pressure. Pumping definitely causes more expansion than hand-clamping.

I've been using coconut for years. Although, I did notice when I was scooping it out of the container that it was a lot of 'pulp' since the oil had separated, probably from not being stirred in a bit. Maybe there were a lot of particles that causes abrasion?

Based on the pressure. We tend to go crazy on the pressure without knowing.

The red spots can be from many things. If you haven't pump but just hand clamping, it's from an irritation, possibly caused by the oil. It's not because the oil itself, but possibly due to the bacteria brewing from deteriorated or old oil, or lots of sediment that can cause abbrasive friction. Don't stir the pulp, but try to further filter the sediment out the remaining oil. I have an ultra fine mesh to take out all the sediment from my coconut oil before usages. When it's new and sits at room temperature, the oil is separated between old sediments and liquid oil. As I get closer to the bottom, the liquid tends to contain quite a bit of sediment that you should stay far away from.

Pumping is indeed more effective, and you can measure where you are. Hand clamping is unmeasurable, and you can only "feeling". This has been discussed on so many front about clamping and aggressive jelqing by hand to the point of bursting blood vessels. Why? We can't tell how much force on days we think we are strong enough to take on very high aggressive workouts.

 

[DSD80]

Hmm. Might be true. I am at the bottom of a huge costco tub of coconut oil. It's also pretty old. The top that has the exp date has worn a lot but I swear it says expired Oct 2021. I figured since I wasn't eating it that it was fine. I mean, I worked in the food industry for a long time so I know things go past their expiration date.. but maybe its finally met its time.

Nothing feels painful. At worst I think it was a bit itchy lately. Gosh, I hope that is it. I was thinking my discoloration was because I was finally hitting 10Hg. Guess I need to just throw that oil out finally. Some times bulk shopping backfires.

 

[DSD80]

If we assume that it is the surface level bacteria or something else related to the coconut oil, is there a quick way to clear up all this discoloration?

 

[DSD80]

I used a foaming cleanser and put neosporin on it and wrapped in gauze. Ordering a new coconut oil.

 

[DSD80]

Trying 'fractionated' coconut oil..

 

[oldandlively]

If we assume that it is the surface level bacteria or something else related to the coconut oil, is there a quick way to clear up all this discoloration?

Yes. Stop using the old coconut oil and purchase new one that you've said you did. Use bacitracin ointment or hydrocortisone for the next few days to bring down the inflammation. Don't pump or jelq. Relax a few days.

Fractionated coconut oil is a good thing to have. It does lose a bit of the cold virgin coconut oil's benefits but it's the next best thing in line beside the overly processed one for pharma's usages.