Do you think Real P.E. will ever become common in the U.S. ?

[DLD]

I come from a Catholic family too, and went to a Catholic school for 10 years. They definitly brainwashed us that masturbation is a mortal sin. My parents were cool though, and allowed my bros and me some privacy.
The Catholic Church doesn't seem to be doing to well, at least here in NY. They've closed TONS of churches here. I myself haven't been to mass in 15 years, besides weddings and funerals. I disagree with so much. Some protestant branches make so much more sense, and are more leniant on practices of the current generation.

Yup! I went to Catholic School, church everyday, catechism, alter boy, etc. and I left that school with a lifetime of guilt I still struggle with.

 

[higherone]

I come from a Catholic family too, and went to a Catholic school for 10 years. They definitly brainwashed us that masturbation is a mortal sin. My parents were cool though, and allowed my bros and me some privacy.
The Catholic Church doesn't seem to be doing to well, at least here in NY. They've closed TONS of churches here. I myself haven't been to mass in 15 years, besides weddings and funerals. I disagree with so much. Some protestant branches make so much more sense, and are more leniant on practices of the current generation.

Glad your family gave you and your bros the privacy to "do your thing" without guilt.

 

[higherone]

I know it's not common yet, but in our online community on here it definitely is. I have almost a dozen Facebook friends from being on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words], including DLD!

 

[higherone]

Sounds like it already is in DLD's town.

 

[magiksock]

I hope not. I want to be in the top 5, dead or alive. Top 5%, that is.

 

[stillwantmore]

It won't ever become "common" or even really that widely accepted as legit. My main reason is it takes WORK and TIME and most men just don't want any sort of commitment to something that takes either one for a body part that is not readily made visible (like the arms, shoulders, chest...the "big three"). The other big reason, is because of pill companies. My honest opinion is the pill companies will always keep Penis Enlargement from being seen as legit to MOST men. That's because, the guys who try pills (pick a popular one) take a bottle or a few, and realize they made ZERO gains.....then think pills=ALL Penis Enlargement and won't try anything related to Penis Enlargement ever again. They then, go tell their buddies "ha ha YEA I tried that stuff once...just a waste of money!". Their buddies then realize because their friend who "knows" got burned with that "bigger penis stuff" that it's all just a scam.

Sigh, ignorance is bliss eh?

 

[higherone]

I don't think it'll become a common practice, but it may become common knowledge, much like tantric sex or karma sutra.

 

[DLD]

Everyone knows that diet and exercise will give a better, healthier body and if you weight train you can become very muscular. There are still millions of fat people.

 

[higherone]

Excellent point, DLD!

 

[Turnover]

It won't ever become "common" or even really that widely accepted as legit. My main reason is it takes WORK and TIME and most men just don't want any sort of commitment to something that takes either one for a body part that is not readily made visible (like the arms, shoulders, chest...the "big three"). The other big reason, is because of pill companies. My honest opinion is the pill companies will always keep Penis Enlargement from being seen as legit to MOST men. That's because, the guys who try pills (pick a popular one) take a bottle or a few, and realize they made ZERO gains.....then think pills=ALL Penis Enlargement and won't try anything related to Penis Enlargement ever again. They then, go tell their buddies "ha ha YEA I tried that stuff once...just a waste of money!". Their buddies then realize because their friend who "knows" got burned with that "bigger penis stuff" that it's all just a scam.

Sigh, ignorance is bliss eh?

Those are some great points. It is popular in DLD's town; next stop, Boston, Washington D.C., and then New Jersey!

 

[stillwantmore]

Everyone knows that diet and exercise will give a better, healthier body and if you weight train you can become very muscular. There are still millions of fat people.

LOL yea and even with the tons of guys who "work out"...most only hit certain muscle groups and are leading themselves down a long, hard road prone to injuries. Guys who blast their biceps, shoulders, and chest for example will end up with back injuries. Guys who never train their lower body are setting themselves up for knee, foot and hip problems. But hey, whatever looks good I guess.

 

[DLD]

Just because something works does not mean people will use it. In Penis Enlargement there is so much negative press and spam that even though it is real many will never realize it. There are plenty of guys who have tried and given up before the miracle.

 

[Aimingforthetop]

I have seen an episode of dr phil where they had a bunch of doctors in to answer myths about.... Stuff.. A women asks: "is penis enlargement possible?" whereas the doctor answers: yes but it will take more than 1 operation where they keep expanding the cord something something ( not directly quoted but something like that)
So pay the doctor some money and it is possible. But the problem is not penis enlargement. The problem is most peoples attitude towards: hardwork=gains
Imean we have a huge culture around training i mean take body training and put a price on how much that industry is worth. Yet we have a shitload of people wo dont even know how long their penis is simply because they cant see it.

You expect these people to sit down and work on their cock?

Mainstreaming pe will make it worth more money. Dld will probably become a millionaire (i have absolutely no idea what your earning now mate not my business)
And then the chinese industry will pop out a shitload of different tools to no money. And it will become a fashion thing like bodybuilding where its really just about making money and not helping people.

I like sub cultures when thing grows big they lose their soul and the good things in them.
Besides science is like an slow uncle who insists that the internet will die after a few years. And wo doesnt evolve. Now a days so many things are possible ( alternative threatment ang mass) but the science will not accept them. And it turns more and more into a war on money.
If you have a healthstore and you sell a good old fashion tea and tells the customer that its good for your coughing. Then they can actually sue you because there is no evidence on that matter.
Its weird its dumb and its getting old. Normal people are startng to work their ways around doctors and so on and suddenly its healthy thinking and not science that determine if people want to use a speciel type of thing.

 

[DLD]

When DLD is rollin g in the new Phantom Penis Enlargement has gone mainstream

 

[higherone]

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[DLD]

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I would gather most men who have watched a adult entertainment online know about Penis Enlargement. They see [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] for it and I am sure most are very confused by the adds and such. I would also assume that many probably try what these [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] are pushing and either end up not gaining and resenting Penis Enlargement as a whole, proverbially throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I would think that a percentage of these guys dig deeper and find [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] or places similar where they learn true Penis Enlargement.

 

[higherone]

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Excellent post, DLD!

 

[higherone]

I just got another buddy on Penis Enlargement.

 

[DLD]

Yeah, I have a feeling this is the year for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and bringing Penis Enlargement to new levels. What would be great is to have some politician endorse it

 

[higherone]

Yeah, I have a feeling this is the year for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and bringing Penis Enlargement to new levels. What would be great is to have some politician endorse it

Like Bob Dole did for Viagara!

 

[DLD]

Like Bob Dole did for Viagara!

word!

 

[higherone]

I'm sure there are some politicians, actors, and athletes doing Penis Enlargement.

 

[Aledar]

I saw a episode of dr oz where he discussed [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words], he admitted on the show that pumps work, diet is essential, and some other general topics. He certainly scratched the surface.

 

[higherone]

I saw a episode of dr oz where he discussed [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words], he admitted on the show that pumps work, diet is essential, and some other general topics. He certainly scratched the surface.

It's through things like this that Penis Enlargement is going to become more mainstream.

 

[DLD]

By the years end things will drastically change, I promise you this.

 

[higherone]

By the years end things will drastically change, I promise you this.

Can't wait to see what you have in store, DLD!

 

[higherone]

Anyone have any new thoughts on this?

 

[DLD]

Anyone have any new thoughts on this?

I have more on the topic that I will put in my vacation thread. I will link it here when i am finished.

 

[higherone]

Can't wait DLD!

 

[higherone]

We have 250 Facebook fans. And that's just guys confident enough to put it on Facebook. I'd say there's THOUSANDS more than know about Penis Enlargement but keep it under wraps.

 

[DLD]

Liking a page is much different than joining as a friend. No one really pays attention to likes so I would not worry that people will think you are a freak.

 

[higherone]

Liking a page is much different than joining as a friend. No one really pays attention to likes so I would not worry that people will think you are a freak.

So true! I wish all our [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] brotherhood would add us on Facebook!

 

[higherone]

I think it's more common now than 5 years ago.

 

[synergio]

But surely if something becomes mainstream it loses the "wow" factor, if everyone did Penis Enlargement then everyone would get a bigger penis and then big penises wouldn't be a special thing anymore.

 

[DLD]

But surely if something becomes mainstream it loses the "wow" factor, if everyone did Penis Enlargement then everyone would get a bigger penis and then big penises wouldn't be a special thing anymore.

Main stream does not mean men will have what it takes to make it happen. Penis Enlargement, aside from it being known and mainstream, still takes a special kind of person to make it happen. Most men know that dieting and going to the gym give you a beautiful body but how many partake in this? The same thing, even more so with Penis Enlargement, applies.

 

[synergio]

Main stream does not mean men will have what it takes to make it happen. Penis Enlargement, aside from it being known and mainstream, still takes a special kind of person to make it happen. Most men know that dieting and going to the gym give you a beautiful body but how many partake in this? The same thing, even more so with Penis Enlargement, applies.

Fair point! Could you imagine if penises become like what six pack abs are at the moment? Instead of wow you must work out a lot, it will be wow you look like you Penis Enlargement xD

 

[irspow]

I think that it will become less and less taboo over time. The west is largely inhibited by its Judeo/Christian influence and origins, but people, I think, always move away from such notions as knowledge expands. The biggest hurdle I see, really the only major one in my opinion, is the general perception that Penis Enlargement either doesn't work or that it is dangerous. As it is, there is almost no significant research by the medical community into this study. So most people are exposed to only anecdotal evidence in the face of the much larger consensus from the medical community that it is not possible, is unnecessary, or dangerous. (What else are doctors going to say, they are taught that a penis is fine as long as it serves its evolutionary purpose and merely functions "normally".)

However, sites like this have become more and more abundant (THOUGH THIS IS THE BEST ) and the public is now being exposed to all the penis pills and the like in the mainstream media. At some point the anecdotal evidence will become much more pronounced as more and more try Penis Enlargement and thus it won't be "anecdotal" anymore.

I see Penis Enlargement gaining widespread acceptance at its current trending and will eventually reach out to virtually everyone in some form or another. As more and more people are successful using Penis Enlargement the medical community will almost be forced to research, study, and improve upon what the laymen community has done for itself in its natural quests and desires.

Then again, Penis Enlargement may burst into every home in the world if DLD's new revelations next month are groundbreaking DLD for world President!

 

[higherone]

I think that it will become less and less taboo over time. The west is largely inhibited by its Judeo/Christian influence and origins, but people, I think, always move away from such notions as knowledge expands. The biggest hurdle I see, really the only major one in my opinion, is the general perception that Penis Enlargement either doesn't work or that it is dangerous. As it is, there is almost no significant research by the medical community into this study. So most people are exposed to only anecdotal evidence in the face of the much larger consensus from the medical community that it is not possible, is unnecessary, or dangerous. (What else are doctors going to say, they are taught that a penis is fine as long as it serves its evolutionary purpose and merely functions "normally".)

However, sites like this have become more and more abundant (THOUGH THIS IS THE BEST ) and the public is now being exposed to all the penis pills and the like in the mainstream media. At some point the anecdotal evidence will become much more pronounced as more and more try Penis Enlargement and thus it won't be "anecdotal" anymore.

I see Penis Enlargement gaining widespread acceptance at its current trending and will eventually reach out to virtually everyone in some form or another. As more and more people are successful using Penis Enlargement the medical community will almost be forced to research, study, and improve upon what the laymen community has done for itself in its natural quests and desires.

Then again, Penis Enlargement may burst into every home in the world if DLD's new revelations next month are groundbreaking DLD for world President!

Couldn't have said it better myself!

 

[Jim-podiatrist]

DLD could go along way to bringing Penis Enlargement out from the shadows if he released a book.

 

[Dick_Slinger]

This lil part of a funny post made me think.


I wonder if p.e. might be socially acceptable 50 or 100 years from now, in the U.S., or any other western country where such a thing is taboo.
It's just a matter of time before the urologists, have to acknowledge the healthy gains that come with most p.e. routines.
I am amazed at the gains that have been made on this site, and my personal gains, and yet the medical community groups us with the crap miracle penis pills.
I doubt any doctor would ever encourage hanging or clamping, but I'll add it to the poll.

Penis Enlargement will not be believed to be effective nor will it be accepted, people are dumb and ignorant. A freind saw my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] accidently and looked at me as if i had raped a women and stuffed her dead body under my bed. Others consider Penis Enlargement as fairytales.

 

[irspow]

Just a thought...there are over a 100,000 members here, who knows how many are active, but still quite a large number either way. Does anyone think that it would be possible for all of us to "invade" medical forums elsewhere with invitations to skeptical urologists and andrologists to come join [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]? Even if just a few could be tempted to come, read, and perhaps experience the Penis Enlargement community, perhaps it could be a tiny step further for Penis Enlargement into the medical world.

Thoughts?


Plus, it would be great to have a urologist/andrologist on the site! They do have a great knowledge about our bodies even if they are skeptical about our "field".

 

[REDZULU2003]

I think that would be a cool idea. If I was a millionaire I would invest in equipment, specialized of course to image the penis under stress while exercising so we could gather shit loads of data on WHAT is going on inside the penis when exercising once and for all. No real studies have been done as you point out, its all just guess work.

 

[irspow]

Well there have been a FEW studies about Penis Enlargement indirectly. For example with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] devices. But the medical community is in the "dark ages" compared to forums like this regarding Penis Enlargement. But I really am considering trolling through some urology/andrology sites/forums to perhaps entice/invite some of those knowledgeable people to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], do you think that the powers that be here would be objectionable to that???

 

[higherone]

Real Penis Enlargement is slowly becoming mainstream. It's about to get even more mainstream soon! Look soon for some guys to be "public" about [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and their journey. They'll be on social media soon- Facebook and Twitter. If you're interested in this project, private message me and I'll get you some info!

 

[irspow]

Where are you Brothers?

 

[koooky]

Sent you a pm

 

[higherone]

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[irspow]

Hoorah!!! We are growing!!! :d

 

[higherone]

Definitely becoming more mainstream,in my opinion. You're seeing more and more stuff on TV, movies, etc. about pills and shit. Only a matter of time before Penis Enlargement enters into that.

 

[higherone]

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