Progress thread Come on gains

[JustGrow]

Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 29 hrs 45 min
ADS 2 hr 50 min

Session 36 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.1cm
LM 13 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 8 min x 30 sec DLD rolls
***PostWorkout BPFLS 18.4cm

With Heat Pad
10 min ext straight @7 lbs
5 min ext straight @9 lbs

No Heat
5 min ext straight @7 lbs

Ice top shaft
1 min ext straight @ 9lbs
Ice bottom shaft
1 min ext straight @ 9lbs
Ice top shaft
1 min ext straight @ 9lbs
Ice bottom shaft
1 min ext straight @ 9lbs
Ice top shaft
2 min ext straight @ 9lbs

Room Temp
15 min ext straight @5 lbs

Ice top shaft
1 min ext straight @ 5lbs
Ice bottom shaft
1 min ext straight @ 5lbs

Room Temp
20 min ext straight @4-5 lbs

After extender BPFLS
***18.4cm

 

[JustGrow]

Very innovative routine. I can see you're taking it very seriously. And I think this is a wonderful way forward. God bless you and give you the strength and the long suffering to get to where you wanna be.

Thanks brother, God bless you too!

 

[JustGrow]

If thermal shock keeps allowing you to get longer BPFLS result, you just found a golden ticket for a pre-phase excited growth. It's a pre-phase because of the 0.1cm preliminary gain. If you keep getting a 0.1cm gain every week to every other week, that's an excited growth phase that leads you to a secondary adolescent growth phenomenon. This will be a celebration.

Thanks for the feedback!

 

[JustGrow]

Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 30 hrs 45 min
ADS 2 hr 50 min

Session 37 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.1cm
LM 11 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 10 min x 30 sec DLD rolls
***PostWorkout BPFLS 18.3cm

With Heat Pad
10 min ext straight @7 lbs
5 min ext straight @9 lbs

No Heat
5 min ext straight @9 lbs

Ice top shaft
1 min ext straight @ 7lbs
Ice bottom shaft
1 min ext straight @ 7lbs
Ice top shaft
1 min ext straight @ 7lbs
Ice bottom shaft
1 min ext straight @ 7lbs
Ice top shaft
1 min ext straight @ 7lbs

Room Temp
35 min ext straight @5 lbs

After extender BPFLS
***18.5cm

 

[DLD]

How are those rolls going for you? You've been doing them around a month have you noticed any changes?

 

[JustGrow]

How are those rolls going for you? You've been doing them around a month have you noticed any changes?

Going good!

I think for a long time I was trying different exercises but not getting results, so I would end up doing PE for a few months and see little results and would stop

The DLD rolls are helping stretch and make my penis stronger, just have to be a bit careful as the LM is a powerful tool

I like that I can use the LM for the rolls to prep the tissues, then use the DLD rolls to perform tissue stretching, then I set it in the extender for about an hour

This had been good for me and I think it is true SRT as you have it laid out

Mine is just a slight variation with different exercises but same prep, pre exhaust, and stay in length

I have been using heat and cold to experiment
The heat with heating pad helps

I think this is what is causing /allowing the tissue malleability then the cold while in the extender begins cementing the new found length or accelerating the cementing process

I'm at 7in / 18.1cm BPFLS consistently which is awsome

I hope I can say 7.5 in the 8 in etc eventually!!!

Just grow, come on gains!!!

 

[JustGrow]

How are those rolls going for you? You've been doing them around a month have you noticed any changes?

Going good!

I think for a long time I was trying different exercises but not getting results, so I would end up doing PE for a few months and see little results and would stop

The DLD rolls are helping stretch and make my penis stronger, just have to be a bit careful as the LM is a powerful tool

I like that I can use the LM for the rolls to prep the tissues, then use the DLD rolls to perform tissue stretching, then I set it in the extender for about an hour

This had been good for me and I think it is true SRT as you have it laid out

Mine is just a slight variation with different exercises but same prep, pre exhaust, and stay in length

I have been using heat and cold to experiment
The heat with heating pad helps

I think this is what is causing /allowing the tissue malleability then the cold while in the extender begins cementing the new found length or accelerating the cementing process

I'm at 7in / 18.1cm BPFLS consistently which is awsome

I hope I can say 7.5 in the 8 in etc eventually!!!

Just grow, come on gains

 

[JustGrow]

Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cumulative time includes today
Extender 31 hrs 30 min
ADS 2 hr 50 min

Session 38 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.1cm
WaterPump 5 min ***PostWorkout BPFLS 18.1cm

No Heat
5 min ext straight @5 lbs

With Heat Pad
10 min ext straight @7 lbs
15 min ext straight @10 lbs

Room Temp No Heat
5 min ext straight @9 lbs
5 min ext straight @7 lbs w vibe
5 min ext down @5 lbs w vibe

The vibration for 10 minutes at the end caused quite a bit of blood flow at the end of the workout

After extender BPFLS
***18.5cm

 

[DLD]

Very good work, my brother, I am proud of you. If you keep this up, you're going to have amazing results in the future

 

[JustGrow]

Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 31 hrs 45 min
ADS 2 hr 50 min

Session 39 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.1cm
LM 11 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 10 min x 30 sec DLD rolls
***PostWorkout BPFLS
18.5 or 18.6cm

With Heat Pad
15 min ext straight @9 lbs
5 min ext straight @7 lbs

No Heat
5 min ext straight @7 lbs
5 min ext straight @5 lbs

Ice top shaft
1 min ext straight @ 7lbs
Ice bottom shaft
1 min ext straight @ 7lbs
Ice top shaft
1 min ext straight @ 7lbs
Ice bottom shaft
1 min ext straight @ 7lbs
Ice top shaft
1 min ext straight @ 7lbs
Ice bottom shaft
1 min ext straight @ 7lbs
Ice top shaft
1 min ext straight @ 7lbs

Room Temp
15 min ext straight @5 lbs
10 min ext straight @5 lbs vibe

With Heat Pad
5 min ext straight @7 lbs

After extender BPFLS
***18.6cm

 

[oldandlively]

Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

***PostWorkout BPFLS
18.5 or 18.6cm

There it is..although the date is strange, but there's the change!! Two more weeks!! If that goes up to 18.7cm, you are entering the secondary growth phase!! Cross your fingers, toes, and smile with anticipation. Don't go crazy, and just keep on doing what you're doing. Don't hurt yourself by being overzealous.

 

[JustGrow]

There it is..although the date is strange, but there's the change!! Two more weeks!! If that goes up to 18.7cm, you are entering the secondary growth phase!! Cross your fingers, toes, and smile with anticipation. Don't go crazy, and just keep on doing what you're doing. Don't hurt yourself by being overzealous.

Thank you for feedback!

The date is when I started at 17.3 BPFLS

 

[JustGrow]

Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 32 hrs 40 min
ADS 2 hr 50 min

Session 40 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.3cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 7 min x 30 sec DLD rolls
***PostWorkout BPFLS
18.6cm

With Heat Pad
15 min ext straight @9 lbs

No Heat
5 min ext straight @7 lbs
5 min ext straight @7 lbs bundle
5 min ext straight @7 lbs bundle
25 min ext straight @7 lbs

After extender BPFLS
***18.6cm

 

[DLD]

VERY NICE WORKOUT!

 

[oldandlively]

After extender BPFLS
***18.6cm

And there you have it. It's sticking at 18.6cm. One little creeping gain at a time. Eventually, 25cm elephant trunk.

 

[JustGrow]

And there you have it. It's sticking at 18.6cm. One little creeping gain at a time. Eventually, 25cm elephant trunk.

Dang
When I get there... when i get there
25cm would be awesome!

 

[JustGrow]

@DLD and @oldandlively

What is an excercise called
if you soft jelq, meaning not to hard pressure but then as you approach the glans you grip down and stretch downward?

 

[JustGrow]

Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 32 hrs 40 min
ADS 3 hr 00 min

Session 41 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.1cm
15 min power jelq flaccid
***PostWorkout BPFLS 18.3cm

30 min ADS w/ cup and sleeve

After ADS BPFLS
***18.5cm

 

[oldandlively]

@DLD and @oldandlively

What is an excercise called
if you soft jelq, meaning not to hard pressure but then as you approach the glans you grip down and stretch downward?

Standard C-jelq or power jelq at flaccid.

 

[DLD]

And there you have it. It's sticking at 18.6cm. One little creeping gain at a time. Eventually, 25cm elephant trunk.

You should ping me with an elephant trunk

 

[JustGrow]

You should ping me with an elephant trunk

Ah to gain to gain...lol

 

[JustGrow]

Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 32 hrs 40 min
ADS 3 hr 0 min

Session 42 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.1cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 7 min x 30 sec DLD rolls
***PostWorkout BPFLS
18.7cm

With Heat Pad
15 min ext straight @9 lbs

No Heat
15 min ext straight @7 lbs
5 min ext straight @7 lbs bundle
5 min ext straight @7 lbs bundle
20 min ext straight @5 lbs
10 min ext straight @9 lbs

After extender BPFLS
***18.5cm

 

[DLD]

Ah to gain to gain...lol

Yup a huge elephant like really fucking big.

 

[JustGrow]

Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 33 hrs 10 min
ADS 3 hr 00 min

Session 43 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.3cm
15 min jelq flaccid
500 count
***PostWorkout BPFLS 18.3cm

with heat
5 min ext @5 lbs bundle R
5 min ext @5 lbs bundle L
5 min ext @5 lbs bundle R
5 min ext @5 lbs bundle L
10 min ext @9 lbs bundle

After extender BPFLS
***18.7cm

 

[oldandlively]

After extender BPFLS
***18.7cm

And the excited growth starts. Great job, brother!! Keep it up. Remember, stay the course and avoid being overzealous.

 

[JustGrow]

And the excited growth starts. Great job, brother!! Keep it up. Remember, stay the course and avoid being overzealous.

Thank you and DLD and other brothers for feedback!

The extender I have allows for bundles, but actually after you and DLD mentioned it, I was able to use my basic extender
With my new extender its a bit easier and I think I need to do more bundle time in it.

 

[JustGrow]

Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 34 hrs 00 min
ADS 3 hr 00 min

Session 44 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.3cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 8 min x 30 sec DLD rolls
***PostWorkout BPFLS
18.7cm

with heat
10 min ext @9 lbs
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle R
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle R
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle R
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle R
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle R
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle L

Room Temp
5 min ext @7 lbs

Ice
2 min ext @7 lbs ice top
2 min ext @9 lbs ice bottom
2 min ext @9 lbs ice top
2 min ext @9 lbs ice bottom
2 min ext @9 lbs ice on balls

Room Temp
5 min ext @7 lbs

After extender BPFLS
***18.7cm

 

[JustGrow]

Thread 'Importance of Static Force+ Volume on permanent lengthening of the tunica, fascia, and ligaments'

Nov 1, 2025

Long time since i've posted here, but i haven't given up on research and such. I think it's important that remind people i am no profession researcher, academic or anything having to do with physiology. Just a guy who's been involved with the community since 09.
So here it is, a conversation i had with the infinitely intelligent AI, chat GPT... Takes this as you'd like, grain of salt, but it is interesting. I'll post my rather crudely written question, and then the AI answers... Also, read through the whole article, because what GPT initially claimed was not possible, when given the proper...

• jekyllnhyde360
• length ligaments tunica volume
• Replies: 28
• Forum: Penis Enlargement Forum

• 

Input to ai
Take this information and give me my length
• Strain = (new length – original length) / original length
• 6% strain = tissue is 1.06× its starting length
• Elastic up to ~3%, linear 3–6%, plastic 6–10%, failure >10%

With some tweaking here it is
Condensed Daily Session Model

Stage Duration % Creep Achieved

Warm-up (heat, 5 min) 5 min ~28 %
Pre-stretch (“bundles”, 10 min) 10 min ~53 %
Ligament traction (“dld rolls”, 10 min) 10 min ~70 %
Static traction extender (steady 9–12 lbs) 45 min ~95 %
Ice 5 min while in extender
Minimal hold 30 to 45 min
Maintenance hold 2–3 h 95 % (strain held for remodeling)

Longer version

Daily Session Model (Text Version)

1. Warm-up (heat) – 10 min
Prepares tissue, reduces τ (time constant), accelerates initial creep.

Longer heat slightly increases tissue pliability and primes fibroblasts.

2. Pre-stretch (“bundles”) – 10 min
Straightens collagen fibers, pre-exhausts tunica (~53 % creep).

3. Ligament traction (“rolls”) – 10 min
Multi-axis ligament loading (~70 % creep).

4. Static traction – 45 min
Achieves ~95 % mechanical creep under safe 9–12 lbs tension.

Slightly faster creep due to longer warm-up; optional small reduction in static traction time.

5. Short ice – ≤5 min
Applied immediately after reaching creep.

Slightly reduces elastic recoil; fibroblast activity temporarily slowed but resumes within 10–15 min.

6. Minimal maintenance hold – 30–45 min
Tissue remains stretched after ice; fibroblasts active, initiating permanent collagen remodeling.

 

[oldandlively]

Wow
Amazing stuff!!!

Based on the information it gave i found a great workout

Input to ai
Take this information and give me my length
• Strain = (new length – original length) / original length
• 6% strain = tissue is 1.06× its starting length
• Elastic up to ~3%, linear 3–6%, plastic 6–10%, failure >10%
Click to expand...

Just for personal log information, I'll repost it here too. It's a good personal summation so far. From our data compilation and modeling, without the AI, we have, on average:

Strain = (new length – original length) / original length
Common strain = ~10%, optimal at ~15%, with tissue at 1.09 to 1.112 × its starting length
Elasticity/Malleability up to ~15%, Linear optimization at 4–9%, Plasticity ~10–15%, with Error Rate/Failure Rate >+/-6%

This is a modeling system based on what we have in collective data so far. It doesn't mean it cannot change.

With some tweaking here it is
Condensed Daily Session Model

Stage Duration % Creep Achieved

Warm-up (heat, 5 min) 5 min ~28 %
Pre-stretch (“bundles”, 10 min) 10 min ~53 %
Ligament traction (“dld rolls”, 10 min) 10 min ~70 %
Static traction extender (steady 9–12 lbs) 45 min ~95 %
Ice 5 min while in extender
Minimal hold 30 to 45 min
Maintenance hold 2–3 h 95 % (strain held for remodeling)
Click to expand...

Possible malleability over-hallucination to overpush. Make sure to prompt for medical safety concern with a limitation factor of 0.5lb of traction load progression at 4 to 6 weeks, adding a 60% safety margin. 45 minutes at a static force between 9lbs and12lbs is way too high.

What we've been testing as a vascular constrictor factor by using cold water. Very nicely added. This actually causes the blood vessels to be more robust using thermal shock methods for PE. We didn't think about this until a few years ago, and I've tested this way back in 2015 when my wife made me go into from "hot" to "cold" water during our fun. Long story short, I noticed the harder rigidity of the penile shaft from the thermal shock, and applied to my PE.

Longer version

Daily Session Model (Text Version)

1. Warm-up (heat) – 10 min
Prepares tissue, reduces τ (time constant), accelerates initial creep.

Longer heat slightly increases tissue pliability and primes fibroblasts.

2. Pre-stretch (“bundles”) – 10 min
Straightens collagen fibers, pre-exhausts tunica (~53 % creep).

3. Ligament traction (“rolls”) – 10 min
Multi-axis ligament loading (~70 % creep).

4. Static traction – 45 min
Achieves ~95 % mechanical creep under safe 9–12 lbs tension.
Click to expand...

Best to create a mechanical assisting creep using low, moderate, high, moderate, low approach. It's static, but progressive static. We use "dynamic" because the change in the traction loads, but in reality, anything more than 5 minutes is considered as static.

Slightly faster creep due to longer warm-up; optional small reduction in static traction time.

5. Short ice – ≤5 min
Applied immediately after reaching creep.

Slightly reduces elastic recoil; fibroblast activity temporarily slowed but resumes within 10–15 min.

6. Minimal maintenance hold – 30–45 min
Tissue remains stretched after ice; fibroblasts active, initiating permanent collagen remodeling.
Click to expand...

I'm very happy that the brothers are using the AI engines for PE, further evolving the PE programs. This is like a dream come true for the forefathers of PE, and definitely new leaders of PE for the next generations.

 

[JustGrow]

Just for personal log information, I'll repost it here too. It's a good personal summation so far. From our data compilation and modeling, without the AI, we have, on average:

Strain = (new length – original length) / original length
Common strain = ~10%, optimal at ~15%, with tissue at 1.09 to 1.112 × its starting length
Elasticity/Malleability up to ~15%, Linear optimization at 4–9%, Plasticity ~10–15%, with Error Rate/Failure Rate >+/-6%

This is a modeling system based on what we have in collective data so far. It doesn't mean it cannot change.



Possible malleability over-hallucination to overpush. Make sure to prompt for medical safety concern with a limitation factor of 0.5lb of traction load progression at 4 to 6 weeks, adding a 60% safety margin. 45 minutes at a static force between 9lbs and12lbs is way too high.

What we've been testing as a vascular constrictor factor by using cold water. Very nicely added. This actually causes the blood vessels to be more robust using thermal shock methods for PE. We didn't think about this until a few years ago, and I've tested this way back in 2015 when my wife made me go into from "hot" to "cold" water during our fun. Long story short, I noticed the harder rigidity of the penile shaft from the thermal shock, and applied to my PE.



Best to create a mechanical assisting creep using low, moderate, high, moderate, low approach. It's static, but progressive static. We use "dynamic" because the change in the traction loads, but in reality, anything more than 5 minutes is considered as static.



I'm very happy that the brothers are using the AI engines for PE, further evolving the PE programs. This is like a dream come true for the forefathers of PE, and definitely new leaders of PE for the next generations.

@oldandlively
Thank you for the feedback!

Are you saying based on the research that it is higher than the ai model

MOS is

Common strain = ~10%, optimal at ~15%, with tissue at 1.09 to 1.112 × its starting length
Elasticity/Malleability up to ~15%, Linear optimization at 4–9%, Plasticity ~10–15%, with Error Rate/Failure Rate >+/-6%

The AI model had multiplying at 1.06 but I see the MOS one higher

So does this mean the strain has to be higher than the ai model

I just want to be on the correct path as far as how much strain I'm using with the extender

What should be the time then on the 9lbs to 11lbs I am using

Should I limit this to only
5 to 10 min increments?

How about cummulative time with 9 to 11lbs per session?

I just want to make sure not to get hurt

I've got good growth so far I think with my routine
and don't want to get overzelous

The ice
I'm going to keep it to a minimum of maybe 5 minutes
Unless you think it should be different

 

[DLD]

Thank you and DLD and other brothers for feedback!

The extender I have allows for bundles, but actually after you and DLD mentioned it, I was able to use my basic extender
With my new extender its a bit easier and I think I need to do more bundle time in it.

You are so welcome, my brother.I wish nothing but the best for you in the future. God bless you!

 

[oldandlively]

Are you saying based on the research that it is higher than the ai model

Correct. AI modeling has only been in the game for the past year or so. AI engines are awesome at what they can do, but the modeling lacks the publication data for them to process with. The best thing to do is to pull all the publications together, including compiled data, into one single storage center, and have the AI engines perform the investigation. Otherwise, most data got scattered across the interweb, and sit behind blocked walls.

This is why DLD decided for MoS to open up the data portal so our data can be provided to the next generation, especially AI engines.

So does this mean the strain has to be higher than the ai model

The strain seems to be higher, but in reality, the AI modelings have hallucinations without proper prompting to differentiate between dynamic modeling using specific static traction progression vs pure static traction tensions. This is why tables and well written logs are essential for the AI engines to read the info properly.

I just want to be on the correct path as far as how much strain I'm using with the extender

Your path that you used originally is perfectly fine. However, make sure not to take the literal values at face value and use them. 45 minutes at 6 to 9lbs is pure crazy. 15 minutes, from (5mins at 6lbs, 5 mins at 9lbs, 5 mins at 7lbs) 6lbs to 9lbs should be spread out, and can be repeated until you hit the 45 minutes mark. Do not remain static at one single traction load for the entire 45 minutes.

What should be the time then on the 9lbs to 11lbs I am using

If your upper weight limit is 11lbs, spread it out. 10 minutes at 9lbs, 10 minutes at 11lbs, 5 minutes at 9lbs, and then black way down to 15 minutes 5lbs, and 15 minutes at 4lbs, and stay as long as you can at 2.5lbs max. You do not need to stay at 11lbs or 9lbs for more than 10 minutes, at top 15 minutes. That's starting to tear your tissues apart and cause your body to turtle for self protection.

Should I limit this to only
5 to 10 min increments?

Always. When you strap too tightly, blood need to flow! 5 minutes rule, at top at 10 minutes, to prevent blood clotting. Anyone else that go past the 10 minutes mark, or encouraged to go past that limit, simply be aware of the danger.

How about cummulative time with 9 to 11lbs per session?

Yes, you can. Range the weight loads ever 5 minutes to 10 minutes.

I just want to make sure not to get hurt
I've got good growth so far I think with my routine
and don't want to get overzelous

And this is the most critical point.

The ice
I'm going to keep it to a minimum of maybe 5 minutes
Unless you think it should be different

Nope. The cooling factor is a great way to add once in the entire routine. You can use cool water, but ice should only be used once. More than once, the shock might trigger something else. I can go into a discussion about it, but it will cause quite a bit of confusion on your end.

 

[JustGrow]

Correct. AI modeling has only been in the game for the past year or so. AI engines are awesome at what they can do, but the modeling lacks the publication data for them to process with. The best thing to do is to pull all the publications together, including compiled data, into one single storage center, and have the AI engines perform the investigation. Otherwise, most data got scattered across the interweb, and sit behind blocked walls.

This is why DLD decided for MoS to open up the data portal so our data can be provided to the next generation, especially AI engines.



The strain seems to be higher, but in reality, the AI modelings have hallucinations without proper prompting to differentiate between dynamic modeling using specific static traction progression vs pure static traction tensions. This is why tables and well written logs are essential for the AI engines to read the info properly.



Your path that you used originally is perfectly fine. However, make sure not to take the literal values at face value and use them. 45 minutes at 6 to 9lbs is pure crazy. 15 minutes, from (5mins at 6lbs, 5 mins at 9lbs, 5 mins at 7lbs) 6lbs to 9lbs should be spread out, and can be repeated until you hit the 45 minutes mark. Do not remain static at one single traction load for the entire 45 minutes.



If your upper weight limit is 11lbs, spread it out. 10 minutes at 9lbs, 10 minutes at 11lbs, 5 minutes at 9lbs, and then black way down to 15 minutes 5lbs, and 15 minutes at 4lbs, and stay as long as you can at 2.5lbs max. You do not need to stay at 11lbs or 9lbs for more than 10 minutes, at top 15 minutes. That's starting to tear your tissues apart and cause your body to turtle for self protection.



Always. When you strap too tightly, blood need to flow! 5 minutes rule, at top at 10 minutes, to prevent blood clotting. Anyone else that go past the 10 minutes mark, or encouraged to go past that limit, simply be aware of the danger.



Yes, you can. Range the weight loads ever 5 minutes to 10 minutes.



And this is the most critical point.





Nope. The cooling factor is a great way to add once in the entire routine. You can use cool water, but ice should only be used once. More than once, the shock might trigger something else. I can go into a discussion about it, but it will cause quite a bit of confusion on your end.

Thank you, man wealth of knowledge!
I appreciate it!

Still want to keep it simple and effective

I have a vacuum type extender

When you say restore blood flow
Are you saying just to unstrap from the extender and shake to restore blood flow after 5 to 10 minutes
Or
Do i need to remove the cap from vacuum and then reapply?

Also, is the 6 to 9 lbs too much in your opinion or should I still keep using it but minimal like you mentioned at 5 min increments up to about 15 min then lower weight 5 lbs or less for the remaining 30 to 45 minutes

thank you for mentioning the time in extender as I think I was leaving it on too long maybe

 

[oldandlively]

I have a vacuum type extender

When you say restore blood flow
Are you saying just to unstrap from the extender and shake to restore blood flow after 5 to 10 minutes
Or
Do i need to remove the cap from vacuum and then reapply?

No need to remove the cap if you're staying around 2.5lbs to 3lbs. But the moment you're heading up to 5lbs and beyond, yes, my suggestion is to, at the very least, remove the weight from the vacuum cup to allow blood to flow from the glans to the rest of the penis just for a minute or so, and resume. During the heavy traction load, the pressure in the vacuum cup will increase. The vacuum pressure causes the blood to remain stagnant in the glans, while the rest of the penis continues to flow normally. Your glans is suffering during the stagnant period.

If you're not using the vacuum cup, you can leave it on a lot longer. The only thing is the comfort issues where the strap(s) can dig into your skin, or the pinching of the nerve and blood vessels during higher traction loads. But if there's no issues with the blood flow with the strap type, go as long as you want. Just be aware of the vacuum type.

 

[JustGrow]

G

No need to remove the cap if you're staying around 2.5lbs to 3lbs. But the moment you're heading up to 5lbs and beyond, yes, my suggestion is to, at the very least, remove the weight from the vacuum cup to allow blood to flow from the glans to the rest of the penis just for a minute or so, and resume. During the heavy traction load, the pressure in the vacuum cup will increase. The vacuum pressure causes the blood to remain stagnant in the glans, while the rest of the penis continues to flow normally. Your glans is suffering during the stagnant period.

If you're not using the vacuum cup, you can leave it on a lot longer. The only thing is the comfort issues where the strap(s) can dig into your skin, or the pinching of the nerve and blood vessels during higher traction loads. But if there's no issues with the blood flow with the strap type, go as long as you want. Just be aware of the vacuum type.

Got it

I will remove every 5 to 10 minutes when on high weight past 3 to 4 lbs

I was probably doing it every 5 to 10 minutes when transitioning to different weight on the extender and shaking for about 30 seconds but I will do it a bit longer for 1 to 2 minutes

I will leave the cap on but remove vacuum temporarily then add vacum back and reapply extender

I would see some veins or something when removing the vacuum cup behind the glans but i just thought it was lymphatic fluid

Thank you guys for looking out!

You think I should go down to
5 to 7 lbs instead
of the 9lbs mark

 

[DLD]

G


Got it

I will remove every 5 to 10 minutes when on high weight past 3 to 4 lbs

I was probably doing it every 5 to 10 minutes when transitioning to different weight on the extender and shaking for about 30 seconds but I will do it a bit longer for 1 to 2 minutes

I will leave the cap on but remove vacuum temporarily then add vacum back and reapply extender

I would see some veins or something when removing the vacuum cup behind the glans but i just thought it was lymphatic fluid

Thank you guys for looking out!

You think I should go down to
5 to 7 lbs instead
of the 9lbs mark

Isn't it quite impressive that you can get? Knowing one of our brothers will always be here to help youo much feedback and help just by posting. Knowing one of our brothers will always be here to help you

 

[JustGrow]

Isn't it quite impressive that you can get? Knowing one of our brothers will always be here to help youo much feedback and help just by posting. Knowing one of our brothers will always be here to help you

Yes truly amazing the wealth of knowledge you guys share

God bless you brother!

 

[DLD]

Yes truly amazing the wealth of knowledge you guys share

God bless you brother!

Jesus bless you my brother

 

[JustGrow]

Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 34 hrs 30 min
ADS 3 hr 00 min

Session 45 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.3cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 10 min x 30 sec DLD rolls
***PostWorkout BPFLS
18.5cm

with heat
5 min ext @7 lbs
5 min ext @9 lbs
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle R
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle R
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle R

Room Temp
10 min ext @5 lbs

After extender BPFLS
***18.5cm

 

[JustGrow]

Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 35 hrs 30 min
ADS 3 hr 00 min

Session 46 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.4cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 10 min x 30 sec DLD rolls
***PostWorkout BPFLS
18.5cm

Seems my preworkout is catching up to my post workout for gains

with heat
5 min ext @7 lbs
5 min ext @9 lbs
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle R
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle R

Room Temp
35 min ext @4 lbs

10 min old ext @3 lbs

After extender BPFLS
***18.5cm

 

[JustGrow]

Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 36 hrs 10 min
ADS 3 hr 00 min

Session 47 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.3cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 10 min x 30 sec DLD rolls
***PostWorkout BPFLS
18.5cm

with heat
10 min ext @7 lbs
5 min ext @9 lbs
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle R
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle L
2 min ext @5 lbs bundle R

Room Temp
20 min ext @4 lbs

After extender BPFLS
***18.7cm

 

[DLD]

Very good routine. I'm very proud of you! keep it up day by day, and it will truly bring you incredible growth. I'm watching over you.

 

[JustGrow]

Starting 8/10/2025
BPFLS 17.3cm / 6.8 inches

Cummulative time
includes today
Extender 37 hrs 5 min
ADS 3 hr 00 min

Session 48 of ?

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.2cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 10 min x 30 sec DLD rolls
***PostWorkout BPFLS
18.4cm

with heat
5 min ext @7 lbs
5 min ext @9 lbs
5 min ext @4 lbs
5 min ext @4 lbs
5 min ext @4 lbs

Room Temp
5 min ext @5 lbs
10 min ext @3 lbs
15 min ext @4 lbs

After extender BPFLS
***18.4cm

@oldandlively
Questioning the recent smaller measurement
After workout

 

[oldandlively]

After extender BPFLS
***18.4cm

@oldandlively
Questioning the recent smaller measurement
After workout

I see the pattern to you retraction issue of pre vs post relaxation.

Room Temp 75
***PreWorkout BPFLS 18.2cm
LM 10 min x 30 sec bundles
LM 10 min x 30 sec DLD rolls
***PostWorkout BPFLS
18.4cm

Probably too much tension right here with cool heat. Should be at body core temp.

with heat
5 min ext @7 lbs
5 min ext @9 lbs
5 min ext @4 lbs
5 min ext @4 lbs
5 min ext @4 lbs

How much heat? Any estimation?

Room Temp
5 min ext @5 lbs
10 min ext @3 lbs
15 min ext @4 lbs

When you're doing low traction tension using gravity, apply heat to allow the body to "reset" at low weights as the body is willing to relax without a tissue fatigue reset. Mean, as the body relaxes, it desires heat, most of the times higher the body's core temp. When the tissues is under pressure or reaching the normal fatigue level, possibly from the LM3 workout without knowing, the tissues want to have more heat as the traction load reduces to relax.

 

[DLD]

Unbelievably, good post.You have mastered something.I would love to master. Keep up the awesome work and keep on growing

 

[JustGrow]

I see the pattern to you retraction issue of pre vs post relaxation.




Probably too much tension right here with cool heat. Should be at body core temp.



How much heat? Any estimation?



When you're doing low traction tension using gravity, apply heat to allow the body to "reset" at low weights as the body is willing to relax without a tissue fatigue reset. Mean, as the body relaxes, it desires heat, most of the times higher the body's core temp. When the tissues is under pressure or reaching the normal fatigue level, possibly from the LM3 workout without knowing, the tissues want to have more heat as the traction load reduces to relax.

Thanks @oldandlively

-So are you saying at the higher tension I should do it at room temp?

-And at the lower tensions add more heat?

The heat is from a heating pad at high temp, but not sure what that is

 

[oldandlively]

-So are you saying at the higher tension I should do it at room temp?

No. tissues work better where the tissues are at body core temp. But before you stop when you're using the lighter traction loads, use more heat application to relax the tissues. You can even use more heat application the PE exercises to further relax the tissues and promote blood flow.

-And at the lower tensions add more heat?

All tensions. You can apply heat for one exercise, leave at room temperature for one exercise, and so on. But at the very end, the last few exercise with lighter tension loads should have constant heat application. Something to play with to keep your tissues constantly relaxed for more effective stretching.

The heat is from a heating pad at high temp, but not sure what that is

Try to measure the surface of the heating pad at high temp using IR heat measurement. You always want to know.