Any thoughts on online gaming?

[penguinsfan]

I think I may be onto a kickass roulette system that should bust the house, but more work needs to be done in testing. Anyone have any thoughts on online casinos? Are they fair and reputable? When you play for free, is it the same (odds-wise) as playing for cash as they state?

 

[Alfred8inch]

http://www.igcouncil.org/

Thats the internet gaming councils web site. I think they track legitamite and ill-legitmate casinos. That might help.
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[penguinsfan]

Anyone ever purchased any "gaming systems" or strategies? Does anyone believe that it's possible to earn substantial income through gambling strategies on a consistent basis?

 

[iwant8inches]

I doubt it. I bet it is a lot easier to lose a substantial amount of income with strategies or no strategies than to earn any serious dough. Otherwise why the hell would anyone go into the casino business? I'm sure a few people think they can or have so obviously there is a chance.

 

[longTom]

Hey I'll save you a lot of time, sell everthing you own, go down to bank get a money order and mail it to me. rofl rofl rofl

 

[penguinsfan]

http://www.igcouncil.org/

Thats the internet gaming councils web site. I think they track legitamite and ill-legitmate casinos. That might help.
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[penguinsfan]

Well, I think the people that figure out gambling are truly few and far between, but I do believe that some people are fortunate enough to flip the odds somewhat.

I am trying a roulette system and I have the statistics others claim to have produced. I will be playing for free for sometime to see if I can get similar results. My personal theory is if there is a good system, it doesn't work for gamblers. What I mean is it won't work for true gamblers, with the gambling instinct. Such folks will put too much faith into "luck" (don't believe in it--gambling is mathematics and probability) or will deviate from the system or game plan when things go really poorly or really well.

I then you find a system or work on developing your own and issues come up. I thought I had a good system and, upon studying it, realized I made an error in the probability factor. Originally, I told my best friend about the system I came up with. Within two hours, he was up $2,600 while playing for free, he told me. Then, then put in $500 of real money, got knocked down to $200, then cashed out when he managed to crawl back to around $450. In later discussion, he told me while playing roulette (practice), he got cold and realized that black was long overdue to hit and bet $1,000 on it. He managed to hit and was up $1000. The problem is when he was playing for real money, he couldn't handle the pressure of a few losses and resorted to playing Martindale, which any experienced roulette player knows is a long-term guaranteed loser. He played it ultra-safe. Well, what good is it to "test" a system making some ballsy bet that you would NEVER actually be willing to do with real money?

 

[REDZULU2003]

Sounds good, tell us how it goes matey.

 

[Dustb2000]

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All is needed is to develop a system that suits your playing style and consistently win. This is not an easy task and takes patience and analyzing hand after hand of action.

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Remember to always to start out slow and play within your bank roll. If you try to up the limits too quick you will end up broke.

So from my experiences it is very possible to become a profitable online [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83810-MoS-Online-Texas-Holdem-Poker-League-and-Tournament-to-win-P-E-Prizes!!!]poker[/words] player but it takes time, patience, and willingness to learn.

If anyone has any other questions I would be more than happy to try to help.

 

[penguinsfan]

Online [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83810-MoS-Online-Texas-Holdem-Poker-League-and-Tournament-to-win-P-E-Prizes!!!]poker[/words] might be a possibility. I don't think live [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83810-MoS-Online-Texas-Holdem-Poker-League-and-Tournament-to-win-P-E-Prizes!!!]poker[/words] would ever be my game, as I don't think I can bluff and hide my body language to a profitable extent.

Right now, I am focusing on roulette. It is the only gambling game I now how to play. By nature, I am not a gambler, so if I can't figure out how to stay ahead of the house, I'll forfeit this venture. I'm sure there are not very many possible methods of doing this. One I've found is not a sure thing yet and is highly time consuming, winning very little over a long period of time. This means, one has to invest a large bankroll to have a safe cushion and make very large bets to make it worthwhile. Right now, I have tested over about 500 spins from one site. Tomorrow I'll log-on and collect more. I'll be satisfied with consistent readings from 5,000 to 10,000 spins from a given site. If I cross-reference with one other site, then I believe I'll have a winner.

I'm also working on a more aggressive system.

 

[Dustb2000]

Maybe this is something you could use: http://www.roulettetopsecrets.net/

Although it seems extremely simple it seems to make very good sense.

If you need any help with online [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83810-MoS-Online-Texas-Holdem-Poker-League-and-Tournament-to-win-P-E-Prizes!!!]poker[/words] you can PM me or ask in this thread.

 

[penguinsfan]

I didn't bother downloading the software, but read the information. It's a glorified version of Martindale, but it might actually produce more. Martindale fails because you end up wagering outrageous amounts of money to net a mere one dollar. That site recommends wagering a starting wager of $20, which is steep, but at least $20 is worth fighting for more so than $1.

There are some great even money systems out there that are wonderful for people that just want to enjoy the gaming experience, but many ultimately get railed by house minimums and maximums.

What I'm working on is a little different. I'm going inside lines trying to ride the "hot" numbers (though there is no such thing), with higher payouts. So far, it's worked pretty good. It works off someone else's copyrighted system and I cannot share it in detail. If my original idea works, I'll be happy to post that here.

Here is my philosophy: The casinos are bastards, through and through. They'll throw you out if you win massive amounts of money, but they have no problem letting someone literally gamble away his entire net worth and some millionaires have literally lost everything in one sitting. The casinos do not behave in a socially responsible manner, making people stop at such excessive instances, as a responsible bartender would cut a person off. At what is with this card counting shit? If I figure out a way to beat the odds without a device or other aide, then hats off to me for being a smart gambler. But, again, no--they'll throw your ass out. The libertarian inside of me believes that we should all have the right to gamble if that's what we choose to do, but nothing would make me happier than for the gambling population to figure the games out and crush the casinos out of business for being such pricks.

Anyhow, everyone please feel free to post good gaming info and strategies.

 

[philadelph]

Hows the roulette going Penguinsfan? What casino do you use? And what method of cash deposit/cash out do you use?

 

[penguinsfan]

I've only played online in free mode at Golden Palace and Aspinalls. Supposedly, free mode and real play use the same number generating software. Anyway, I'm not totally sold on the original idea, but it may have some merit with some modifications. I've concluded that winning at gambling (if possible, and I think it IS possible) is hard work and discipline that many will never have.

In June, I played a little live roulette at the Borgata in Atlantic City, while visiting for UFC 53. Classic gambler's story---I didn't have all that much money to take with me, was up for a short while, kept pressing it, and cashed out with about one-third of my starting bankroll.

I must say, and I may even make a new thread to plug it, but I highly recommend anyone with any interest at all in gambling buy a book called Full-Time Gambler by L.G. Holloway, a man that supposedly lived mostly of gambling winnings. He didn't play [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83810-MoS-Online-Texas-Holdem-Poker-League-and-Tournament-to-win-P-E-Prizes!!!]poker[/words] either. The book talks a good bit about horse betting and identifying good horses, but he also detailed how he won at single-zero roulette, blackjack (no card counting), and craps in a section which gave an example of a conservative 46-step progression. That progression looks damn-near unbeatable and I'd love to hear others opinions.

 

[philadelph]

Yep, I feel you on the Borgata. I was there a couple months ago, ended up about negative 150 bucks.

 

[penguinsfan]

The Borgata is a beautiful place though. I can't wait to make it back sometime. Atlantic City is too expensive for me, in general, but at least it's east coast. I can't play like I really would like to play.

I am of the thinking that most gamblers play with too little of a bankroll. Holloway advocated 2000-2500 units for table games. That means you don't have any business using his productive long-term strategy on $5 tables unless you have over $10,000 to play with. With all the $15-$25 tables one can find in Atlantic City, you can imagine the bankroll needed to virtually assure you'll leave a winner. I've never been to Vegas, but the $1.00 tables are more geared to me budget.