Advice for Abnormally slow Length Gains

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Argyle

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Hey guys,

I'm about 8 months into training. I've only done length work so far, and plan to keep doing that until I reach my length goals. I know this is a slow process that takes years, but my length gains seem to be abnormally slow. I started doing DLD Bundled Blasters on May 14. I recently measured on August 14th. I had only gained about 0.25 inches. Here is a list of my gains:

Started training w/ beginner routine - Jan. 9th: BPEL 5.3 in
Began DLD Blasters - May 14th: BPEL 5.69 in
Still doing DLD Blasters - Aug. 16th: BPEL 5.94 in

I have a coach (who is awesome) and he said I'm gaining too slowly, but I don't know why. I aim to do DLD Bundled Blasters twice a day. I use a LengthMaster. I pull very hard. I do them for 24 minutes per session, stretching each direction for 2 minutes. I wrap up with a bandage immediately after to stay elongated, and I stay wrapped for at least 6 hours every day.

Now, there are days when I can only get one session in, but this does not happen often. Also, there were 4 days from May to August when I could not do the DLD Blasters (I was out of town for work). So in total, I should have done 180 sessions (2 sessions per day for 3 months) It would be safe to say I've missed about 20 sessions. So that means I've done about 160 sessions out of the 180 that were possible in that time frame. That means I did about 89% of the sessions I planned to... Sometimes life just gets in the way.

Is this the culprit, or am I missing something else? Does anyone have advice as to why I'm gaining so slowly and how I can correct it?
 
Argyle said:
Now, there are days when I can only get one session in, but this does not happen often. Also, there were 4 days from May to August when I could not do the DLD Blasters (I was out of town for work). So in total, I should have done 180 sessions (2 sessions per day for 3 months) It would be safe to say I've missed about 20 sessions. So that means I've done about 160 sessions out of the 180 that were possible in that time frame. That means I did about 89% of the sessions I planned to... Sometimes life just gets in the way.

Is this the culprit, or am I missing something else? Does anyone have advice as to why I'm gaining so slowly and how I can correct it?
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Sounds like your coach is leading you properly and you are doing what it takes to progress forward. Everyone needs one step further and level higher after the 6th month.

As it has been discussed, when we do manual stretches using our own muscles, there are cap limits of how much our own strength can take us. Some have phenomenal responses just using manual methods. Some need a great intensify pushed after the 6th month using mechanical assist using tools like the LM3, all day stretcher, or traction devices.

All bodybuilders can do the same thing, but their growth is completely different. Some have to push harder than the others, and some just grow like a mountain on natural steroids. Let's discussed on mechanical assistance into the routine with your coach.
 
Argyle said:
Hey guys,

I'm about 8 months into training. I've only done length work so far, and plan to keep doing that until I reach my length goals. I know this is a slow process that takes years, but my length gains seem to be abnormally slow. I started doing DLD Bundled Blasters on May 14. I recently measured on August 14th. I had only gained about 0.25 inches. Here is a list of my gains:

Started training w/ beginner routine - Jan. 9th: BPEL 5.3 in
Began DLD Blasters - May 14th: BPEL 5.69 in
Still doing DLD Blasters - Aug. 16th: BPEL 5.94 in

I have a coach (who is awesome) and he said I'm gaining too slowly, but I don't know why. I aim to do DLD Bundled Blasters twice a day. I use a LengthMaster. I pull very hard. I do them for 24 minutes per session, stretching each direction for 2 minutes. I wrap up with a bandage immediately after to stay elongated, and I stay wrapped for at least 6 hours every day.

Now, there are days when I can only get one session in, but this does not happen often. Also, there were 4 days from May to August when I could not do the DLD Blasters (I was out of town for work). So in total, I should have done 180 sessions (2 sessions per day for 3 months) It would be safe to say I've missed about 20 sessions. So that means I've done about 160 sessions out of the 180 that were possible in that time frame. That means I did about 89% of the sessions I planned to... Sometimes life just gets in the way.

Is this the culprit, or am I missing something else? Does anyone have advice as to why I'm gaining so slowly and how I can correct it?
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yeah those 20 sessions missed delay your gains,
ditch the coach, you dont need it
just be consistent and be creative
 
kyomoto said:
yeah those 20 sessions missed delay your gains,
ditch the coach, you dont need it
just be consistent and be creative
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I thought missing sessions might play a factor. It's just hard to tell how much. Would I have gained .33 inches instead of .25? Who knows, you know? But I intend to miss as few sessions as possible moving forward. But life happens so I won't get down on myself if I do. That's just a ticket to quitting and I'm not interested in that. What I don't intend to do is walk away or take extended time off.

And I'll be keeping my coach for sure. I don't really have the time or motivation to figure out what works and what doesn't, or to develop a routine. I also don't understand a lot of this stuff. But I do have the time and motivation to follow a plan that I know will work because it's been developed by a veteran who has made gains on their own. Being completely clueless and listening to a coach has gotten me gains. I don't intend to change that up now. It might be a tad irresponsible to blindly trust people, but I got lucky and found a good coach so there's no risk to my health and I've already seen the results for myself. The fact that PE is even possible is enough for me. Just 9 months ago I thought it was impossible just like almost all other men
 
Argyle said:
I thought missing sessions might play a factor. It's just hard to tell how much. Would I have gained .33 inches instead of .25? Who knows, you know? But I intend to miss as few sessions as possible moving forward. But life happens so I won't get down on myself if I do. That's just a ticket to quitting and I'm not interested in that. What I don't intend to do is walk away or take extended time off.

And I'll be keeping my coach for sure. I don't really have the time or motivation to figure out what works and what doesn't, or to develop a routine. I also don't understand a lot of this stuff. But I do have the time and motivation to follow a plan that I know will work because it's been developed by a veteran who has made gains on their own. Being completely clueless and listening to a coach has gotten me gains. I don't intend to change that up now. It might be a tad irresponsible to blindly trust people, but I got lucky and found a good coach so there's no risk to my health and I've already seen the results for myself. The fact that PE is even possible is enough for me. Just 9 months ago I thought it was impossible just like almost all other men
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Find your routine for your schedule. Pull harder and twist more over time. Get a sleeve or wrap. That’s it. Just be careful with yourself. Work on you.
 
Dallas Dango said:
Find your routine for your schedule. Pull harder and twist more over time. Get a sleeve or wrap. That’s it. Just be careful with yourself. Work on you.
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Right now I stay wrapped/elongated with an elastic bandage. It doesn't create a stretch, but it keeps me long. Do you think that's okay, or would you specifically recommend something else?
 
Argyle said:
I thought missing sessions might play a factor. It's just hard to tell how much. Would I have gained .33 inches instead of .25? Who knows, you know? But I intend to miss as few sessions as possible moving forward. But life happens so I won't get down on myself if I do. That's just a ticket to quitting and I'm not interested in that. What I don't intend to do is walk away or take extended time off.

And I'll be keeping my coach for sure. I don't really have the time or motivation to figure out what works and what doesn't, or to develop a routine. I also don't understand a lot of this stuff. But I do have the time and motivation to follow a plan that I know will work because it's been developed by a veteran who has made gains on their own. Being completely clueless and listening to a coach has gotten me gains. I don't intend to change that up now. It might be a tad irresponsible to blindly trust people, but I got lucky and found a good coach so there's no risk to my health and I've already seen the results for myself. The fact that PE is even possible is enough for me. Just 9 months ago I thought it was impossible just like almost all other men
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As a motivation to keep you going, I will say that PE is conceptually harder than growing a muscle at the gym, since the latter is supposed to grow, while your dick isn't.

Meaning that experiencing gains with a PE routine is already an amazing achievement.

Personally my progression at PE exercises is optimizing intensity, especially maxing out variantions and pushing towards harder ones, maybe it can help you too.
 
Argyle said:
Right now I stay wrapped/elongated with an elastic bandage. It doesn't create a stretch, but it keeps me long. Do you think that's okay, or would you specifically recommend something else?
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Wrapping and sleeves are good to keep the elongation process cemented for flaccid. But to promote growth, an active elongation routine for length is a must. As everyone said, increase in intensities in a progressive manner and maintain disciplined on the routines without letting up. Wrap and/or sleeve wearing after each routine.
 
oldandlively said:
Wrapping and sleeves are good to keep the elongation process cemented for flaccid. But to promote growth, an active elongation routine for length is a must. As everyone said, increase in intensities in a progressive manner and maintain disciplined on the routines without letting up. Wrap and/or sleeve wearing after each routine.
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So what I'm doing is good then? Since LengthMaster is an active elongation/stretching routine? I do that and then wrap with a bandage, which is passive elongation. So all my bases are covered? Or is there a better way to do wrapping/passive elongation?
 
Argyle said:
So what I'm doing is good then?
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Yes.
Argyle said:
Since LengthMaster is an active elongation/stretching routine?
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And yes.

Argyle said:
I do that and then wrap with a bandage, which is passive elongation. So all my bases are covered?
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And yes yes.
Argyle said:
Or is there a better way to do wrapping/passive elongation?
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There are many more, which involves higher tension extender style. Passive wrapping produces around 400g to 600g of traction. At times, when you wrap tightly or with a harder sleeve assist, you can get to 800g of passive traction. The all day stretcher or traction devices get you to 1500g and higher, creating constant mid traction after your active intense stretching routine.
 
oldandlively said:
Yes.

And yes.


And yes yes.

There are many more, which involves higher tension extender style. Passive wrapping produces around 400g to 600g of traction. At times, when you wrap tightly or with a harder sleeve assist, you can get to 800g of passive traction. The all day stretcher or traction devices get you to 1500g and higher, creating constant mid traction after your active intense stretching routine.
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There are a few different sleeves in the MoS store. Which ones are the best for passive elongation/staying elongated all day? I don't want an active stretcher, just something to keep me long throughout the day
 
Argyle said:
There are a few different sleeves in the MoS store. Which ones are the best for passive elongation/staying elongated all day? I don't want an active stretcher, just something to keep me long throughout the day
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SiliSleev2 is good enough for now. Make sure to grab some TheraBand. Why? It acts as cushion, cover, and an anti slippage if the sleeve becomes looser after certain amount of hours.
 
I'm not sure which I should use. Would the #5 help to gain a bit faster? Or is it more of a "whatever feels better for you" kind of thing between the #2 and #5?
 
Argyle said:
I'm not sure which I should use. Would the #5 help to gain a bit faster? Or is it more of a "whatever feels better for you" kind of thing between the #2 and #5?
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If I must decide, it's not about one over the other. There are uses for both. If you have the fund, get both. If not, start with #2.
 
Would you mind explaining the use of each kind? Or be able to direct me to a past post about that? I've looked around but haven't found anything like that
 
Argyle said:
Would you mind explaining the use of each kind?
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Definitely.

Argyle said:
Or be able to direct me to a past post about that?
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By answering over and over again, it helps me to find my mistakes. No worries.

Silisleev2:
The silicone filler is slightly less, where the hardener is slightly more. The filler material is what makes the sleeve softer, more pliable. This sleeves specifically used for accommodating your expansion needs inside the pump. It also being used as part of the ADS providing one level higher of comforts. The only thing is not provided is the thickness as the thickness cannot be measured perfectly on every batch. Mine measured at 6mm. The rigidity is around 650g to 720g.

Of course, you can also find the product info here:


However, when you're using the SiliSleev5, there are hidden bonuses. Since the SiliSleev5 has higher filler materials, the hardener also increases. This makes the walls or thickness much higher. The thickness of the SiliSleev5, for my batch anyway, it's 9mm. It can be at 8 and up to 10mm. The two I have has a traction retention force of 830g and 940g. This is a perfect sleeve for durability that can be used with the ADS. Rigidity means tougher durability. It lasts longer under traction tension for the ADS. If you use it for just post lengthening routines, it's perfect to keep the penis nice and elongated without the muscles of the weight trainer to put it on, even for the smaller diameter sleeves. It's flexible to crank it wide open. The only problem is, the longest one is 8in long. For those who have 9in to 11in long penis, you have to double it up, or overlap it. But when you have 11in long penis, well, not sure what your true intention in PE is anymore. A missiles of mass pussy destruction?

DuroSleevs measured to have a thickness of 10mm and 12mm. However, the filler is a different blend. The wall is crazy hard. The smaller diameter one measured up to 1600g, but the larger diamter measured around 1135g. Once again, the optimal is around 1200g-ish. So, a nice loose diameter DuroSleev is your ultimate choice for keeping things elongated, using the TheraBand round the base of the glans to prevent the glans from sliding the DuroSleev, or any other sleeves.
 
Sorry for all the questions, but I guess I'm still confused as to what Silisleev to get. You gave a lot of detail that I didn't even know existed and I think I'm more confused than before lol.

There's the 2, and then there are three kinds of the 5 (hardness 2, hardness 5, and hardness 10).

Then there's the sizing (I attached a screenshot of the size list). The length makes sense to me, but is the width measurement for the size of the opening for the penis to enter the sleeve, or is it the width for the thickness of the wall of the sleeve?

All I want at this point is to stay elongated all day and to wear a Silisleev while I sleep. I don't need anything else at this point, no need for hanging or pumping yet. Which ones would be best for those goals of all-day elongation and wearing to sleep? Please help!
 

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Let's keep it simple.

Argyle said:
Then there's the sizing (I attached a screenshot of the size list). The length makes sense to me, but is the width measurement for the size of the opening for the penis to enter the sleeve, or is it the width for the thickness of the wall of the sleeve?
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What is your current elongated length after you do your lengthening routines And possibly after your girth routines? That is what you aim for the length and diameter of your sleeves to wear in comforts.

For day time, hardness of 5 is perfect. For extra comforts, hardness of 2 is good.e

Argyle said:
All I want at this point is to stay elongated all day and to wear a Silisleev while I sleep. I don't need anything else at this point, no need for hanging or pumping yet. Which ones would be best for those goals of all-day elongation and wearing to sleep?
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We all think about this every time, and every time, wearing while we sleep and not able to check up on the penis, damages and dangers creep up when we are not aware and cannot feel because we are under deep sleep.

Yes, you can wear it all night long if you want. Cautions must be at an all time high. It means you must not cause constriction on your penis. You must allow at least 80% blood flow for your penis at all time. You cannot cause blood pooling greater than two hours even when your blood flow is at 80% of the time. You cannot cut or pinch your blood vessels and nerves, creating pain and numbness greater than 20 minutes. The list goes on and on for night time wearing. If we thought it was that simple, we would encourage night time wearing as well
 
My current BPEL is 5.94 inches. I haven't taken a BPSFL measurement since January, but I'd assume is slightly over 6.00 inches. So I'm thinking I'll only need a 4 inch long Silisleev.

I'm only doing a length routine at this point, no girth work until I reach my length goals. I'll try a 5 hardness first and try a 2 hardness if I don't like it. And you, plus my coach, have convinced me not to wear anything while I sleep. The risk seems to high.

However, the width measurements don't make sense to me. My BG is 4.25 inches, but the Silisleev widths come in 3/4 in, 7/8 in, and 1 inch. I'm not sure what to make of that.

I'm thinking of getting the width of the Silisleev to be slightly larger than my BG so that I can have room to wrap a TheraBand first. Thanks for your help and patience, @oldandlively!! I appreciate it greatly!
 
Argyle said:
My current BPEL is 5.94 inches. I haven't taken a BPSFL measurement since January, but I'd assume is slightly over 6.00 inches. So I'm thinking I'll only need a 4 inch long Silisleev.
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That's a bad mindset. Even if your BPEL is 6in, get 6in or 6.5in, or longer if there is longer ones. Why? You can always cut shorter but double stack to make it longer is a greater pain.

Argyle said:
I'm only doing a length routine at this point, no girth work until I reach my length goals. I'll try a 5 hardness first and try a 2 hardness if I don't like it. And you, plus my coach, have convinced me not to wear anything while I sleep. The risk seems to high.
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Yep. Don't sleep with it on.

Argyle said:
However, the width measurements don't make sense to me. My BG is 4.25 inches, but the Silisleev widths come in 3/4 in, 7/8 in, and 1 inch. I'm not sure what to make of that.
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4.25in is the circumference measurements. The 3/4in, 7/8in, and 1in is the diameter. Yes, the circumference for the sleeve is at 3.14in if the diameter is only 1in.

However, your flaccid is not 4.24in. You flaccid is always around 1/3 the size of your erected size. At times, 1/4 the size. Do measure the flaccid size.

Argyle said:
I'm thinking of getting the width of the Silisleev to be slightly larger than my BG so that I can have room to wrap a TheraBand first. Thanks for your help and patience, @oldandlively!! I appreciate it greatly!
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Sounds like a plan. Measure 10 times, buy 1 time.
 
Argyle said:
Hey guys,

I'm about 8 months into training. I've only done length work so far, and plan to keep doing that until I reach my length goals. I know this is a slow process that takes years, but my length gains seem to be abnormally slow. I started doing DLD Bundled Blasters on May 14. I recently measured on August 14th. I had only gained about 0.25 inches. Here is a list of my gains:

Started training w/ beginner routine - Jan. 9th: BPEL 5.3 in
Began DLD Blasters - May 14th: BPEL 5.69 in
Still doing DLD Blasters - Aug. 16th: BPEL 5.94 in

I have a coach (who is awesome) and he said I'm gaining too slowly, but I don't know why. I aim to do DLD Bundled Blasters twice a day. I use a LengthMaster. I pull very hard. I do them for 24 minutes per session, stretching each direction for 2 minutes. I wrap up with a bandage immediately after to stay elongated, and I stay wrapped for at least 6 hours every day.

Now, there are days when I can only get one session in, but this does not happen often. Also, there were 4 days from May to August when I could not do the DLD Blasters (I was out of town for work). So in total, I should have done 180 sessions (2 sessions per day for 3 months) It would be safe to say I've missed about 20 sessions. So that means I've done about 160 sessions out of the 180 that were possible in that time frame. That means I did about 89% of the sessions I planned to... Sometimes life just gets in the way.

Is this the culprit, or am I missing something else? Does anyone have advice as to why I'm gaining so slowly and how I can correct it?
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I'll suggest try by losing weight frist and see what happens as well weight loss also helps.
 
Argyle said:
Oh I'm super thin. I should have mentioned that. I have no kind of gut whatsoever.
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Super thin means?

If your penis is 5.94in BPEL, and your girth is 4in girth, that's normal. Thin is considered at 3in girth, which is 2:1 ratio. Anything less than 2:1 ratio is considered "thin" by female standards. In nature, that's normal for procreation. For sexual pleasure, females like their vaginal canals filled. They call it "tight". If you deem it thin, why not work on length for 6 months to get another 1in of length, and refocus on girth to expand to 2:1.5 ratio, which is around 7in length and 4.95in girth or even 5in. Mine was 6in length and 4.95in girth and my wife loved it 15 years. But after 15 years, she desired for something around 6in girth and some length to bottom her out at 6in girth. So, think of who you are with sexually, and what she wants that you're proud to comfortable achieve.
 
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