Progress thread 25 cm by the end of 2021!

But is bathmate also for length? I thought it works only girth. Also, by ADS you mean also a wrap?

I’m using it at the moment and I’m hoping I see some length gains, however I did do a month or so of very intense manual stretching before investing a lot of time in the BM. I’ve heard that the BM can bring up to two inches but only if incorporated with jelqing (not sure how accurate the statement is though) but I have also heard that the BM or any other pump can realise gains that you’ve prepared via stretching, I.e. bringing you closer to bpfsl. Both theories seem to make sense in light of the ‘balloon’ principle oft discussed on these forums, I.e. the penis or cc’s are akin to a balloon and a gain in one direction would lead to an incremental gain in another. Either way, I’ll keep a log of gains in the BM.
 
Reviews I've read say you can get length gains too, I remember your wanting just length for now though. I meen all day stretcher, apparently the wrap isn't recommended all day due to circulation I read somewhere. I think ads would be more pull traction then the wrap!
 
I’m using it at the moment and I’m hoping I see some length gains, however I did do a month or so of very intense manual stretching before investing a lot of time in the BM. I’ve heard that the BM can bring up to two inches but only if incorporated with jelqing (not sure how accurate the statement is though) but I have also heard that the BM or any other pump can realise gains that you’ve prepared via stretching, I.e. bringing you closer to bpfsl. Both theories seem to make sense in light of the ‘balloon’ principle oft discussed on these forums, I.e. the penis or cc’s are akin to a balloon and a gain in one direction would lead to an incremental gain in another. Either way, I’ll keep a log of gains in the BM.
Thats interesting. Actually, I have contemplated in the past to buy a pump, I was thinking about Penomet, since I read really good reviews on that.
So what you are saying is that one should go for pumping after a period of intense length routine?
 
Reviews I've read say you can get length gains too, I remember your wanting just length for now though. I meen all day stretcher, apparently the wrap isn't recommended all day due to circulation I read somewhere. I think ads would be more pull traction then the wrap!
What ADS do you recommend? The only ones I know of are silistretcher and phallosan forte, but that strap system is not very comfortable to me and I find it also quite difficult to addjust tension. Thats why Im considering an extender since there are no straps over your body, its just on your penis and you can addjust the tension precisely with the screws. Also most of them are 2-4 kg in tension, I think thats quite a lot.
 
Thats interesting. Actually, I have contemplated in the past to buy a pump, I was thinking about Penomet, since I read really good reviews on that.
So what you are saying is that one should go for pumping after a period of intense length routine?

I don’t know whether I’d advocate it yet but it’s what I’ve done :) I was sold on the idea of pumping by a few threads (big Schwanz acht’s in particular - you should check it out.) and bought a BM. I have seen some success with the BM, a water pump, but have not tried air pumping. I feel a bit more comfortable with the water pumping as it’s apparently safer (the suggestion is that water is a more stable medium than air) and I’ve had no mishaps despite pushing it to what I feel is my limit each session. If you want to try both water and air you could try the mityvac. It’s a good bit of kit according to reviews and has a lifetime guarantee which isn’t bad. It also has the option for changing cylinder sizes, I don’t think many other pumps have cylinders in the size range it does. I’m almost done with my BM and I’ve only had it for a month or so. I think another month, two max and I’ll be upgrading by the looks of it. Unless of course my gains in the cylinder slow down considerably.

Anyhoo, I’m posting some results at the end of the month so please feel free to check them out before deciding your next step. I’d stick to the newbie or srt stretching and manual girth exercises until you know what to invest in.
 
I don’t know whether I’d advocate it yet but it’s what I’ve done :) I was sold on the idea of pumping by a few threads (big Schwanz acht’s in particular - you should check it out.) and bought a BM. I have seen some success with the BM, a water pump, but have not tried air pumping. I feel a bit more comfortable with the water pumping as it’s apparently safer (the suggestion is that water is a more stable medium than air) and I’ve had no mishaps despite pushing it to what I feel is my limit each session. If you want to try both water and air you could try the mityvac. It’s a good bit of kit according to reviews and has a lifetime guarantee which isn’t bad. It also has the option for changing cylinder sizes, I don’t think many other pumps have cylinders in the size range it does. I’m almost done with my BM and I’ve only had it for a month or so. I think another month, two max and I’ll be upgrading by the looks of it. Unless of course my gains in the cylinder slow down considerably.

Anyhoo, I’m posting some results at the end of the month so please feel free to check them out before deciding your next step. I’d stick to the newbie or srt stretching and manual girth exercises until you know what to invest in.
That sounds cool, can you send me a link to your progress log?
Also, what length routine exactly would you recommend? Because there are several in SRT - the newbie one which I dont think I can do just that for the next for 4 months and then there is the advanced one but I need apparently a length master for that, which I dont have...so Im not sure what length routine to do. I want some serious manual stretching that will give me solid gains.
 
NEW MEASUREMENTS:

NPBEL - 14,2-14,5 cm (+0,5-0,8 cm)
BPEL - 16,5-16,6 cm (+0,5-0,6 cm) ... I still need to gain 0,6 cm to get to my biggest BPEL so far (17,2 cm) once again. I want to do that by the end of June, latest July 2020.....then after that, gain at least another 4 cm by the end of this year, so I will be at least 20 cm BPEL and at least 18 cm NBPEL at the end of December 2020. These are my goals.

I had good EQ so I decided to measure and it seems I gained. Or maybe its just because I had a better EQ this time than a month ago (April 20th). Or combination of both.

Plan going forward:
By the end of June/July -> NBPEL - 15 cm
-> BPEL - 17,2 cm

By the end of September -> NBPEL - 16 cm
-> BPEL - 18,2-18,5 cm

By the end of December -> NBPEL - 18 cm
-> BPEL - 20 cm
 
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That sounds cool, can you send me a link to your progress log?
Also, what length routine exactly would you recommend? Because there are several in SRT - the newbie one which I dont think I can do just that for the next for 4 months and then there is the advanced one but I need apparently a length master for that, which I dont have...so Im not sure what length routine to do. I want some serious manual stretching that will give me solid gains.

Hey dude, I’m not sure how much worth it offers anyone but it’s there if you want to have a look


You’re starting from a good place. A good inch over average length which is nice!

I used the newbie routine but jazzed it up a bit with more angles and some more advanced stretches. I don’t have any kit other than my mits so I made do with v-stretches, a-stretches and other fulcrum variations. The DLD sock stretches are very intense and seem effective. I think there is a link in my routine somewhere. If not search DLD sock stretches and check them out. If you can’t find them, let me know I’ll have a look for the link.

Top tip, tie three or more football socks together to allow the use of your legs (you can reach your feet with the socks and employ all the power you can muster but be careful) or the back of your head to employ the stretch.

Make sure you get some erect stretches in as well. Essentially get hard and grip just under the glans and stretch down, straight out or up just like flaccid stretches but then grab as close to the base as you can with your other hand and pull in the same direction. The idea is that erect stretches will bring your bpel closer to your bpfsl.

I was carrying out girth work (SSJ’s) as well as length at least once everyday. You can alternate if you like or do length everyday and girth one on one off. The more you do though the better the results you can expect. But don’t overdo it, listen to your body, if you’re in genuine pain (ie something very sharp and sustained) then stop. If it is something sharp and you back straight off and go back to it and it no longer hurts I wouldn’t worry about it. If it’s something dull and achy like muscular aches, I wouldn’t worry about it even if it’s persistent.

You might also want to heal stretched for length and engorged for girth. So, wrap elongated and cock ring/hair tie respectively. The healing extended etc is the main principle of SRT.

If you gave some wrap that would be ok for healing elongated but I liked to hang a kilo or so for that. I just used a football sock with a couple of bags of lentils in it and used jitsu finger tape to attach.

If I’ve missed anything or there is anything you’re not sure of, please hit me up, but most importantly, have fun with it and do what you’re comfortable with but try to push it if you can.
 
Sounds good, I still think you'll have to hang weights then all day stretch to gain that length by december in my opinion, How old are you anyway's? If your young your not fully grown still, so you have natural gains still to look forward too. I'm hanging 2 hours per day though at 11 pounds, I'll increase gradually time or and weight, I'm good if I gain 2mm per month length and I'm newbie too!
 
Hey dude, I’m not sure how much worth it offers anyone but it’s there if you want to have a look


You’re starting from a good place. A good inch over average length which is nice!

I used the newbie routine but jazzed it up a bit with more angles and some more advanced stretches. I don’t have any kit other than my mits so I made do with v-stretches, a-stretches and other fulcrum variations. The DLD sock stretches are very intense and seem effective. I think there is a link in my routine somewhere. If not search DLD sock stretches and check them out. If you can’t find them, let me know I’ll have a look for the link.

Top tip, tie three or more football socks together to allow the use of your legs (you can reach your feet with the socks and employ all the power you can muster but be careful) or the back of your head to employ the stretch.

Make sure you get some erect stretches in as well. Essentially get hard and grip just under the glans and stretch down, straight out or up just like flaccid stretches but then grab as close to the base as you can with your other hand and pull in the same direction. The idea is that erect stretches will bring your bpel closer to your bpfsl.

I was carrying out girth work (SSJ’s) as well as length at least once everyday. You can alternate if you like or do length everyday and girth one on one off. The more you do though the better the results you can expect. But don’t overdo it, listen to your body, if you’re in genuine pain (ie something very sharp and sustained) then stop. If it is something sharp and you back straight off and go back to it and it no longer hurts I wouldn’t worry about it. If it’s something dull and achy like muscular aches, I wouldn’t worry about it even if it’s persistent.

You might also want to heal stretched for length and engorged for girth. So, wrap elongated and cock ring/hair tie respectively. The healing extended etc is the main principle of SRT.

If you gave some wrap that would be ok for healing elongated but I liked to hang a kilo or so for that. I just used a football sock with a couple of bags of lentils in it and used jitsu finger tape to attach.

If I’ve missed anything or there is anything you’re not sure of, please hit me up, but most importantly, have fun with it and do what you’re comfortable with but try to push it if you can.
Thank you so much for all the advice!
You know, the problem I usually have is not that Im in pain but that my penis is "not in the mood" (I have deflated flaccid, bad EQ, overall low libido, not in the mood to even think about sex or do PE) ... I dont know why is that...sometimes it goes back to normal within minutes/hours , sometimes it lasts for days...
Also, what heating pad do you use? I would like to buy something small and compact which can get hot instantly and I dont have to run around the house to put in into a microwave like the rice sock that many use.

Last but not least, how do you recommend me to structure my main part of my length session? I already know that based on the SRT routine I have to do it like this:
1) Warm Up 5 min
2) Bundled Stretches 5x1min (pre stretches the tunica)
3)Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min (unlocks inner penis)
4) Total Package expressive stretch 3x1min
5) ...............................MAIN PART..............
6) Erect Stretches 5x1min (converts Flacid length gains to erect gains)
7) ADS

But I dont know what to do for the 5th step, the main part. If only one main exercise is enough and really focus on progression in that, or do multiple (and if yes how many) . What about sets and repetitions, as well as rest periods?
 
Sounds good, I still think you'll have to hang weights then all day stretch to gain that length by december in my opinion, How old are you anyway's? If your young your not fully grown still, so you have natural gains still to look forward too. I'm hanging 2 hours per day though at 11 pounds, I'll increase gradually time or and weight, I'm good if I gain 2mm per month length and I'm newbie too!
Thank you! I hope you gain a lot, Im sure you will.
I can do only manual work for the next 3 months and then if everything goes right I will buy an extender, I really want to try it out. And then I max out my gain in the extender I will either go with pumping/clamping or hanging, depending on my size and time/privacy.
 
Maybe you should have your blood checked out privately, hormones, Testosterone, prolactin, cortisol etc..... food intolerance/allergy test checked out, Could be the reason for libido,eq etc.... Also if these are an issue it might prevent penis growth in my opinion!
 
Sounds good, I still think you'll have to hang weights then all day stretch to gain that length by december in my opinion, How old are you anyway's? If your young your not fully grown still, so you have natural gains still to look forward too. I'm hanging 2 hours per day though at 11 pounds, I'll increase gradually time or and weight, I'm good if I gain 2mm per month length and I'm newbie too!

I agree that all actions should be in place to make this type of growth by December. The smartest and safest way to go is with SRT as many have already said. I think that if you’re hanging it should be done in the methodology of SRT. If you need me to go over your routine and add in the components that are missing I’m more than happy to do that. If you can write out your routine very simple and easy to understand let me get to work on it and make it SRT compatible.
 
Thank you so much for all the advice!
You know, the problem I usually have is not that Im in pain but that my penis is "not in the mood" (I have deflated flaccid, bad EQ, overall low libido, not in the mood to even think about sex or do PE) ... I dont know why is that...sometimes it goes back to normal within minutes/hours , sometimes it lasts for days...
Also, what heating pad do you use? I would like to buy something small and compact which can get hot instantly and I dont have to run around the house to put in into a microwave like the rice sock that many use.

Last but not least, how do you recommend me to structure my main part of my length session? I already know that based on the SRT routine I have to do it like this:
1) Warm Up 5 min
2) Bundled Stretches 5x1min (pre stretches the tunica)
3)Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min (unlocks inner penis)
4) Total Package expressive stretch 3x1min
5) ...............................MAIN PART..............
6) Erect Stretches 5x1min (converts Flacid length gains to erect gains)
7) ADS

But I dont know what to do for the 5th step, the main part. If only one main exercise is enough and really focus on progression in that, or do multiple (and if yes how many) . What about sets and repetitions, as well as rest periods?

My 2 cents, pick one exercise for the main part and then slowly add to it as you progress You seem concerned about going with a too intense exercise because of potential toughening of the tissues. So this approach will allow you to build slowly while you get really skilled at the other stretches. Even if you just decided to do the newbie routine as the main portion of the workout this would be a very solid routine. Other options are:

1)Maybe 10x1min Mandingo stretch would be a good place to start.

2) You could do DLD Blasters for the main portion. These are the movement DLD prescribed as Phase 2 right after newbie stretches in the old system. I've used them and they have great temp length gains. Plus you get good quality kegel workout while you are doing them

3) 10x1 sock stretches are great and you can modulate intensity so you are still in a range that is comfortable for you. Then in a couple of months or something when you are feeling more comfortable you can increase the intensity greatly And still be gaining from the same stretch.

Are you still doing a decon break while you decide your plan of attack?
 
My 2 cents, pick one exercise for the main part and then slowly add to it as you progress You seem concerned about going with a too intense exercise because of potential toughening of the tissues. So this approach will allow you to build slowly while you get really skilled at the other stretches. Even if you just decided to do the newbie routine as the main portion of the workout this would be a very solid routine. Other options are:

1)Maybe 10x1min Mandingo stretch would be a good place to start.

2) You could do DLD Blasters for the main portion. These are the movement DLD prescribed as Phase 2 right after newbie stretches in the old system. I've used them and they have great temp length gains. Plus you get good quality kegel workout while you are doing them

3) 10x1 sock stretches are great and you can modulate intensity so you are still in a range that is comfortable for you. Then in a couple of months or something when you are feeling more comfortable you can increase the intensity greatly And still be gaining from the same stretch.

Are you still doing a decon break while you decide your plan of attack?

those sock stretches are incredible and so many people have never tried it. It’s so basic and easy to do in the intensity is amazing. Also great advice my brother.??
 
My 2 cents, pick one exercise for the main part and then slowly add to it as you progress You seem concerned about going with a too intense exercise because of potential toughening of the tissues. So this approach will allow you to build slowly while you get really skilled at the other stretches. Even if you just decided to do the newbie routine as the main portion of the workout this would be a very solid routine. Other options are:

1)Maybe 10x1min Mandingo stretch would be a good place to start.

2) You could do DLD Blasters for the main portion. These are the movement DLD prescribed as Phase 2 right after newbie stretches in the old system. I've used them and they have great temp length gains. Plus you get good quality kegel workout while you are doing them

3) 10x1 sock stretches are great and you can modulate intensity so you are still in a range that is comfortable for you. Then in a couple of months or something when you are feeling more comfortable you can increase the intensity greatly And still be gaining from the same stretch.

Are you still doing a decon break while you decide your plan of attack?
Thank you so much, you are really helping me a lot, I appreciate it truly.

I will probably do as you said, pick one stretch and do that as the main portion of my routine. In the past I was given advice by Big Al (Im not sure if you have heard about him, he is a PE coach) and he always told me to do just few basic exercises and really focus on them. According to him it is a good way to know if what youre doing is workin...if you do 10 exercises you dont know which one is it thats working.
However, another thing is that you are not able to maybe target all the neccessary parts of penis and the different angles so it beomes a bit one dimensional. Thats why I like SRT more.


I am currently still on the decon break and I plan to start my new routine on Monday.
I will do the SRT routine. I already know the 3 stretching exercises (bundled and expressive low-shaft+total package) I have to do before the main part. Now Im just thinking what exercise to do as the main one. Is there some chart of progression or something like that? So I know how the exercises are rated on the scale of intensity, so when Im done with one exercise and I progress to the next one after some time, I am doing more intense one and not viceversa.
I think I read that Mandingo stretch is like the number 1 top most intense stretching exercise of all time. Thats why I have always had respect towards it and leaving it for later. Also I have already done DLD Blasters in the past, they are really REALLY good, actually one of my favorite length exercises if not the favorite. I like the sock stretch but Im kinda confused on how its done even after reading the tutorial, maybe I would need some more clarification.

What do you think DLD? Which exercise should I go with as the main one for length? (considering my length goals in the near future) Which is one manual exercise that you think will give me those length gains in the next few months?
 
Thank you so much, you are really helping me a lot, I appreciate it truly.

I will probably do as you said, pick one stretch and do that as the main portion of my routine. In the past I was given advice by Big Al (Im not sure if you have heard about him, he is a PE coach) and he always told me to do just few basic exercises and really focus on them. According to him it is a good way to know if what youre doing is workin...if you do 10 exercises you dont know which one is it thats working.
However, another thing is that you are not able to maybe target all the neccessary parts of penis and the different angles so it beomes a bit one dimensional. Thats why I like SRT more.


I am currently still on the decon break and I plan to start my new routine on Monday.
I will do the SRT routine. I already know the 3 stretching exercises (bundled and expressive low-shaft+total package) I have to do before the main part. Now Im just thinking what exercise to do as the main one. Is there some chart of progression or something like that? So I know how the exercises are rated on the scale of intensity, so when Im done with one exercise and I progress to the next one after some time, I am doing more intense one and not viceversa.
I think I read that Mandingo stretch is like the number 1 top most intense stretching exercise of all time. Thats why I have always had respect towards it and leaving it for later. Also I have already done DLD Blasters in the past, they are really REALLY good, actually one of my favorite length exercises if not the favorite. I like the sock stretch but Im kinda confused on how its done even after reading the tutorial, maybe I would need some more clarification.

What do you think DLD? Which exercise should I go with as the main one for length? (considering my length goals in the near future) Which is one manual exercise that you think will give me those length gains in the next few months?

If you are going completely manual I suggest going with the newbie stretches and add in a few other stretches on top of that. Obviously bundle stretching, erect stretching, expressive stretching The testicle health massage and stretch found in the Newbie Routine. Have a look over try to put something together and I can help you refine it.
 
So I thought this could be my new length routine. Its basically the newbie stretching routine mixed with the other stretches you recommended. You think I can make serious length gains with this?


- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min
- Total Package expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching: 3 Sets of each stretch below
Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds

Straight Down to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Down Rotary Stretches : 25-Cranks

Straight Out to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Out Rotary Stretches : 25-Cranks

Straight Up to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Up Rotary Stretches : 25-Cranks

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up
 
Thank you so much, you are really helping me a lot, I appreciate it truly.

I will probably do as you said, pick one stretch and do that as the main portion of my routine. In the past I was given advice by Big Al (Im not sure if you have heard about him, he is a PE coach) and he always told me to do just few basic exercises and really focus on them. According to him it is a good way to know if what youre doing is workin...if you do 10 exercises you dont know which one is it thats working.
However, another thing is that you are not able to maybe target all the neccessary parts of penis and the different angles so it beomes a bit one dimensional. Thats why I like SRT more.


I am currently still on the decon break and I plan to start my new routine on Monday.
I will do the SRT routine. I already know the 3 stretching exercises (bundled and expressive low-shaft+total package) I have to do before the main part. Now Im just thinking what exercise to do as the main one. Is there some chart of progression or something like that? So I know how the exercises are rated on the scale of intensity, so when Im done with one exercise and I progress to the next one after some time, I am doing more intense one and not viceversa.
I think I read that Mandingo stretch is like the number 1 top most intense stretching exercise of all time. Thats why I have always had respect towards it and leaving it for later. Also I have already done DLD Blasters in the past, they are really REALLY good, actually one of my favorite length exercises if not the favorite. I like the sock stretch but Im kinda confused on how its done even after reading the tutorial, maybe I would need some more clarification.

What do you think DLD? Which exercise should I go with as the main one for length? (considering my length goals in the near future) Which is one manual exercise that you think will give me those length gains in the next few months?

Sock stretch: basically, just grab an old (or new ?) football sock and drape it over the base of your penis, then take the two ends of the sock in one hand and pull them away from the penis, then, take your other hand and grab the penis below the gland in a regular stretching grip and pull in the opposite direction to the sock. Pull both as hard as comfortable and maintain the stretch for 30 or 60seconds (just be consistent with the numbers I.e. do the same every day). Then reposition the sock (I.e. straight up, then left, then down, then right and other angles I’m between if you have the time) and repeat.
 
Sock stretch: basically, just grab an old (or new ?) football sock and drape it over the base of your penis, then take the two ends of the sock in one hand and pull them away from the penis, then, take your other hand and grab the penis below the gland in a regular stretching grip and pull in the opposite direction to the sock. Pull both as hard as comfortable and maintain the stretch for 30 or 60seconds (just be consistent with the numbers I.e. do the same every day). Then reposition the sock (I.e. straight up, then left, then down, then right and other angles I’m between if you have the time) and repeat.
Thank you for explanation.
So the sock is just "around" the penis. For example, when I pull the sock to the right side, the sock covers the left side of the shaft and the right side is "free" so to speak because the ends are going that way? Do I understand it right?
At first I thought that you are supposed to tie the sock around your penis and I was thinking that would hurt. But this makes much more sense.
 
Thank you for explanation.
So the sock is just "around" the penis. For example, when I pull the sock to the right side, the sock covers the left side of the shaft and the right side is "free" so to speak because the ends are going that way? Do I understand it right?
At first I thought that you are supposed to tie the sock around your penis and I was thinking that would hurt. But this makes much more sense.

That is it! Exactly! I hope you get a good stretch out of it but go slow to begin with.
 
Yep the sock stretches are one heck of a good stretch. So our DLD Footlong stretches. Your routine looks awesome and it’s very focused on length which should come very easily using the exercises you have chosen. Everything looks perfect if you add one addition, the testicle health massage and stretch.
 
Hey DLD , Just wandering for future reference, say I'm bulking 6 stone up to 20 stone then cutting, what would be best way of training pe, just same hang, ads, pump?
 
1 June 2020 (Monday) - Session 1
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min
- Total Package expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 1 round

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (worn cca 4 hours)

Comments:
I did only 1 round to start slow and build up from there. Also, I was short on time.

Questions:
I had trouble figuring out the erect stretch. When I grabbed at the bottom and stretched, it felt like Im almost jelquing, I didnt know how to stop my arm from sliding. I squeezed harder so my grip is firmer, but that slowly drove blood out of my penis and my erection decreased.
I started the same thing but under glans, same thing happened.
Then I moved my grip a bit more down, about an inch under glans, little bit above midshaft...somewhere in between glans and midshaft. I gripped there with one hand and pulled MEANWHILE I was pulling my balls in the opposite direction (down). This was also driving blood of my penis a bit but only very slightly, my erection went from 100 % to maybe 90 % during the one minute stretching. The stretch was great. But is this the right way to do it?

Also, question about wrapping. I used a medical bandage, the thin one. Similar to the black wrapping bandage at MoS shop. I wrapped it around my penis starting under the glans and then I wrapped the whole shaft, securing it at the bottom. Bu then my head started to get smaller after couple of minutes, losing blood, getting colder and slowly shrinking into the bandage. So I tried to loosen it up a little and then I re-wrapped - starting again under my glans, making sure to pull down all the retracted foreskin, wrap it around the pulled foreskin first and then under the glans another layer, then I did another layer also around the head this time, so I will see how it works.
Any tips and advice for wrapping?


2 June 2020 (Tuesday) - Session 2
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min
- Total Package expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 1 round

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (worn cca 7 hours)


Comments:
This time wrapping was very good and easy. I used the method to first tape the foreskin to hold it in place, then the rest of the shaft and then the head. I also tried to stretch the penis out of the body as much as possible and taped all the extra length at the base.
I also did just 1 round of main stretches like yesterday, I feel it is enough for now, it feels just about right. I will add the 2nd round soon.

Also before the last set of erect stretch, when I was getting an erection, I was kind of "dry jelquing" my erect penis to get more blood in it (it was already at 100 %, just wanted to maximize it). I did about 20 reps of this and it felt great, huge expansion. When i start with girth work I will try to incorporate this exercise. My head is literally bigger by maybe 2-3 mm. I dont know why...if its because of the silistretcher vacuum that left my head swolen after every hanging session or what it is, but Im not complaining at all. I want it to be even bigger.


3 June 2020 (Wednesday) - Session 3
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min
- Total Package expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 1 round

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min ... I ejaculated after this exercise because I just felt the need to do so, but its probably not to good after PE session, so I will try to avoid this in the future
- Wrap up (worn cca 7 hours)

4 June 2020 (Thursday) - Session 4
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min
- Total Package expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 1 round

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

Comments:
To be honest I felt a bit of difficulties to get a rock hard erection at the beginning. Previous days (before I ejaculated) it was much easier. But towards the end of the session when I was doing erect stretches I managed to get good erections, I just tried to relax my mind and it was ok.

5 June 2020 (Friday) - Session 5
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min
- Total Package expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 1 round

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 10 hours)

TOTAL wrapped time: 35 hours

Saturday & Sunday - rest days
 
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Hey DLD , Just wandering for future reference, say I'm bulking 6 stone up to 20 stone then cutting, what would be best way of training pe, just same hang, ads, pump?

I don’t understand the question my brother can you rephrase it for me?
 
1 June 2020 (Monday) - Session 1
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min
- Total Package expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 1 round

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up

Comments:
I did only 1 round to start slow and build up from there. Also, I was short on time.

Questions:
I had trouble figuring out the erect stretch. When I grabbed at the bottom and stretched, it felt like Im almost jelquing, I didnt know how to stop my arm from sliding. I squeezed harder so my grip is firmer, but that slowly drove blood out of my penis and my erection decreased.
I started the same thing but under glans, same thing happened.
Then I moved my grip a bit more down, about an inch under glans, little bit above midshaft...somewhere in between glans and midshaft. I gripped there with one hand and pulled MEANWHILE I was pulling my balls in the opposite direction (down). This was also driving blood of my penis a bit but only very slightly, my erection went from 100 % to maybe 90 % during the one minute stretching. The stretch was great. But is this the right way to do it?

Also, question about wrapping. I used a medical bandage, the thin one. Similar to the black wrapping bandage at MoS shop. I wrapped it around my penis starting under the glans and then I wrapped the whole shaft, securing it at the bottom. Bu then my head started to get smaller after couple of minutes, losing blood, getting colder and slowly shrinking into the bandage. So I tried to loosen it up a little and then I re-wrapped - starting again under my glans, making sure to pull down all the retracted foreskin, wrap it around the pulled foreskin first and then under the glans another layer, then I did another layer also around the head this time, so I will see how it works.
Any tips and advice for wrapping?

Erect stretching is very very simple to do, get a full erection and stretch it from just below your head straight out in front of you. If you wain to 90% that’s just fine. You wanna be as close to 100% as possible.

Wrapping takes practice and the things you’re describing are very normal using a Ace wrap bandage. I could suggest do you other options that would be much better starting with one of our sleeves, the SiliStretcher, the VLC, and other methods.
 
Never mind was a dumb question,probably same as not bulking, just meant if I'm bulking weight like 6 stone, which way is best to train pe,

you can start out with the newbie routine which will work fine with an exercise program. It’s also shorter than other routines. It can also be broken up into two sessions. If you want to go to way equipment check out SRT.
 
Erect stretching is very very simple to do, get a full erection and stretch it from just below your head straight out in front of you. If you wain to 90% that’s just fine. You wanna be as close to 100% as possible.

Wrapping takes practice and the things you’re describing are very normal using a Ace wrap bandage. I could suggest do you other options that would be much better starting with one of our sleeves, the SiliStretcher, the VLC, and other methods.
I always have to hold the skin at the base with the other hand, is that ok?
 
Your erection is going to decrease with erect stretches the further into the set you go but you don't need to be at 100% to get benefit. I wear latex gloves when I stretch as these give me the best grip. Just get erect grab the glans or just below it and pull. I usually do 1 minute sets but sometimes 30 seconds if the EQ drops quickly.
 
8 June 2020 (Monday) - Session 6
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min
- Total Package expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 1 round

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

Comments:
Today in the morning when I got out of bed I had huge erection, rock hard 10/10 and huge libido. I think it may be because of the weekend off. It was definitely a good sign.

9 June 2020 (Tuesday) - Session 7
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min
- Total Package expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 1 round

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min ... after this 10 minutes edging and ejaculation...I know it is not ideal after PE session but I didnt have other time to do it and I thought once a week is alright...but Im gonna try to avoid this..maybe I try no fap to see if it affects my gains positively
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

10 June 2020 (Wednesday) - Session 8
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min
- Total Package expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 1 round

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min ... after this 10 minutes edging and ejaculation...I know it is not ideal after PE session but I didnt have other time to do it and I thought once a week is alright...but Im gonna try to avoid this..maybe I try no fap to see if it affects my gains positively
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

Thursday - rest day (I had no privacy)

12 June 2020 (Friday) - Session 9

- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min
- Total Package expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 1 round

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min ... after this 10 minutes edging and ejaculation...I know it is not ideal after PE session but I didnt have other time to do it and I thought once a week is alright...but Im gonna try to avoid this..maybe I try no fap to see if it affects my gains positively
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

13 June 2020 (Saturday) - Session 10
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min
- Total Package expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 1 round

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min ... after this 10 minutes edging and ejaculation...I know it is not ideal after PE session but I didnt have other time to do it and I thought once a week is alright...but Im gonna try to avoid this..maybe I try no fap to see if it affects my gains positively
Edging 15 minutes ... with ejaculation
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

Comments: My plan is to always rest during weekend but I had no session on Thursday so today it was like replacement for that.


ALSO ... I ejaculated again after edging which I did at the end of my length session. I really dont want to make this a habit but I sometimes feel the need to do it and I just dont have privacy all day long, just around the time of my routine.
I hope it does not affect my gains in negative way.

Tommorrow I will have rest day and from Monday Im gonna do 2 rounds of stretches.

TOTAL WRAPPED TIME: 35 hours
 
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8 June 2020 (Monday) - Session 6
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min
- Total Package expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 1 round

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up

Comments:
Today in the morning when I got out of bed I had huge erection, rock hard 10/10 and huge libido. I think it may be because of the weekend off. It was definitely a good sign.

Looks like a good routine. How long did it take you to do? Are you going to try to get another routine in later?
 
15 June 2020 (Monday) - Session 11
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min
...I stopped doing the full package stretch because I just cant get the right grip and it doesnt even feel that effective for me...I just do the low shaft stretch above

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 2 rounds (+1 round)

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

Comments:
I felt kind of like my flaccid was not in a good form (not a lot of blood in), I had to stroke it from time to time to get some blood in to make it more plump. But towards the end it got better. I will cease all ejaculation for the rest of this month and see if it affects my EQ and gains.

16 June 2020 (Tuesday) - Session 12
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 2 rounds

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

17 June 2020 (Wednesday) - Session 13
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 2 rounds

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

Thursday - rest day (no privacy)

19 June 2020 (Friday) - Session 14
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 2 rounds

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

20 June 2020 (Saturday) - Session 15
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 2 rounds

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min ... after that 15 minutes edging (with ejaculation)...again the ejaculation kind of decreased my EQ and I will just try to really avoid it from now on , even when it will be difficult
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

Sunday - rest day (no PE but I wrapped my penis and I had it wrapped the whole day, it felt better)
 
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15 June 2020 (Monday) - Session 11
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min
...I stopped doing the full package stretch because I just cant get the right grip and it doesnt even feel that effective for me...I just do the low shaft stretch above

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 2 rounds (+1 round)

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up

Comments:
I felt kind of like my flaccid was not in a good form (not a lot of blood in), I had to stroke it from time to time to get some blood in to make it more plump. But towards the end it got better. I will cease all ejaculation for the rest of this month and see if it affects my EQ and gains.

ejaculation can cause issues. It’s wise to curb that as much as possible. For me it’s impossible to stop but I do it so rarely now I rarely even need to talk about it.
 
But what about sex? Should one stop sex too? (if ejaculation is bad)

If you’re having sex with your girl there’s no reason to masturbate is there? Of course you should be using what you have created and use it well. My problem with masturbation is it is it could become a terrible habit that will reduce your EQ and make it difficult to keep erect during real sex.
 
Hell no! The more you fuck the better you will get at getting and maintaining erections, confidence, and overall sex game.

I mean thats why we're all here right? I don't do PE so I can enjoy beating off more, I do PE so I can enjoy sex more (same goes for her).
Thank you, you are right I absolutely agree.
 
If you’re having sex with your girl there’s no reason to masturbate is there? Of course you should be using what you have created and use it well. My problem with masturbation is it is it could become a terrible habit that will reduce your EQ and make it difficult to keep erect during real sex.
Thanks DLD, you are right about the EQ. Since now I dont have the chance to have sex, the only way is to masturbate. But sometimes it lowers the EQ, its weird.
 
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Monday - no time

23 June 2020 (Tuesday) - Session 16
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 2 rounds

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

24 June 2020 (Wednesday) - Session 17
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 2 rounds

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

25 June 2020 (Thursday) - Session 18
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 2 rounds

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

26 June 2020 (Friday) - Session 19
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 2 rounds

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

27 June 2020 (Saturday) - Session 20
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 2 rounds

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)
 
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Thanks DLD, you are right about the EQ. Since now I dont have the chance to have sex, the only way is to masturbate. But sometimes it lowers the EQ, its weird.

You are so welcome my brother! When my advice helps you it makes me feel so good inside. God bless you my brother
 
DELOAD WEEK (Week 5)

29 June 2020 (Monday) - Session 21

- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 1 round (1 round less)

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

Comments:
I decided to do a low intensity, low volume, low frequency this one week, so I can measure at the end of the week a bit more rested and start the next week fresh.
I did only 1 round of the stretches and I was always using light intensity (about 50 % of my normal one).

I already did 4 weeks of this length routine, increasing intensity every time. So this 5th week is gonna be a bit lighter.


30 June 2020 (Tuesday) - Session 22
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 1 round (1 round less)

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

1 July 2020 (Wednesday) - Session 23
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 1 round (1 round less)

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

2 July 2020 (Thursday) - Session 24
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 1 round (1 round less)

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)

3 July 2020 (Friday) - Session 25
- Warm Up 5 min
-FIRST PART:
- Bundled Stretches 5x1min
- Low Shaft Grip expressive stretch 3x1min

- MAIN PART:
Basic Stretching (All 4 Directions, each 30 seconds) - 1 round (1 round less)

-LAST PART:
- Erect Stretches 5x1min
- Wrap up (cca 7 hours)
 
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